How to - Episode 1 - Ballasting

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EverardJunction

EverardJunction

13 жыл бұрын

I have had a few questions from viewers about how i do the ballasting on the layout. This vid should answer your questions.
Enjoy

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@speedbird193
@speedbird193 3 жыл бұрын
Really like this guy and how he speaks and explains things. After watching this film 100 times I've just finished trying it on my layout following his instructions word by word. I'm praying I've done it right.
@Aggrofilth
@Aggrofilth 8 жыл бұрын
Just used your method on my layout and it works perfectly. Found it a lot harder to remove ballast from the sleepers than it looked for you to do it but I'm sure I'll get better at it :) Thanks a lot.
@mikec7108
@mikec7108 5 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for this video. Clear, concise and easy to follow. Time taken to get the ballast "just right" prior to wetting and applying the glue mix is time well spent. Thanks for all the videos you have made. There is ALWAYS something to learn from them !
@paultodd27
@paultodd27 10 жыл бұрын
I went to East Lancashire Railway the other day and it's sparked my interest in building a model railway. In the last few days I have been watching your videos and it's given me the confidence to go ahead with it.
@kevingawne3727
@kevingawne3727 9 жыл бұрын
Nice job! Can't thank you enough for your videos. I'm just starting out with this hobby...and I've re-visited your videos many times as I start each step. Clear, practical instructions. Cheers!
@MrJoeyWheeler
@MrJoeyWheeler 10 жыл бұрын
This is just the sort of thing I needed to watch. Excellent guide!
@tombell6066
@tombell6066 7 жыл бұрын
I watched your video, followed your instructions. Job done, looks great, no problems. Thank you very much. I think the key word is, patience.
@nikmorriseu
@nikmorriseu 6 жыл бұрын
Take a tip from the prototype rail engineers and “tamp” your ballast while its dry. I used one of my wife’s vibrators, a Eroscillator because it vibrated at a high frequency. The vibration settles the ballast into place nice and evenly then you just need to trim up the sides
@georgehartley2999
@georgehartley2999 5 жыл бұрын
Nik Morris 😂
@rvnmedic1968
@rvnmedic1968 4 жыл бұрын
Eros Cillator... LOL
@nelsonadmiral6584
@nelsonadmiral6584 4 жыл бұрын
I’d hate to see the size of a model rail enthusiasts wife’s vibrator 😅
@aodhanmc3413
@aodhanmc3413 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone thinking of trying what Nik Morris suggest tread carefully. I followed his example to the letter and my ballast shook off the train table :(, I suggest putting it on too a lower setting. Oh another piece of advice, if your layout is in the garden shed at the bottom of the garden watch your neighbour's don't see you bringing your newly acquired track shaker (vibrator), they might think your running a den of iniquity, especially if you have a lot of friends hang out in the shed. I think my reputation is ruined with in my local community, so tread carefully with this new toy. Oh and don't let your wife know your using it in the loco shed, it can lead to all sorts of problem's with your marriage.
@trainman7084
@trainman7084 3 жыл бұрын
brilliant
@TheShadeTreeFixitMan
@TheShadeTreeFixitMan 11 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial. The clearest presentation I have seen. Thanks for the tip on the glue too, instead of buying the pre-made expensive stuff.
@trainboy8054
@trainboy8054 10 жыл бұрын
Subscribed!!! Have spent the last hour watching your how to videos as I would really love to build a fiddle 5ft by 2ft board. Found all the tutorials immensely useful. :)
@Pavesimo
@Pavesimo 10 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Thank you very much for your imput. It's the best I've see!
@andyholmes5588
@andyholmes5588 6 жыл бұрын
Really good clear talking instructions. Cheers! I will try this method with my small oo layout soon 👍
@vernonrobinson4504
@vernonrobinson4504 5 жыл бұрын
You video explains clearly and logically the whole process. Thanx!
@Clocksangel
@Clocksangel 12 жыл бұрын
Just amazing I would have never thought it could be so simple.
@jonnyrodriguez3989
@jonnyrodriguez3989 9 жыл бұрын
Simple, short and accurate. Very good video for beginers like, thank you very much for it !
@frankgrimes8103
@frankgrimes8103 11 жыл бұрын
Brilliant explanation new to train layout so followed your instructions to the word. Worked a treat.
@cyberleaderandy1
@cyberleaderandy1 Жыл бұрын
I'm going to use this method on my cased models, for the track bed they sit on. Really useful, thanks.
@_RandomPea
@_RandomPea Жыл бұрын
Wow, 11 years old but still great. I wish I had watched it before mine, I tried to clean the track after putting PVA down and sadly the track decided to ping up off the cork as I had only stuck that down with PVA :) Live and learn.
@Mr666breadbin
@Mr666breadbin 11 жыл бұрын
great video helped me no end with my ballasting. worked a treat and very impressed with result...
@KustomBuiltModels
@KustomBuiltModels 7 жыл бұрын
Just started modeling. This was a big help. Will be starting the ballasting process soon.
@neilclarkson3548
@neilclarkson3548 4 жыл бұрын
Hi just to say an excellent idiots guide to ballasting, helped me out doing my layout ballasting which I started today 👍🏻
@keiichi189
@keiichi189 12 жыл бұрын
This is a really great video! I'm not so worried about ballasting for my first time now.
@ichabod0391
@ichabod0391 11 жыл бұрын
Great explanation. Very clear directions even a beginner like me could follow!
@sc0tte1-416
@sc0tte1-416 12 жыл бұрын
Hey...when I was younger and had a model railroad like this, I mixed a lot less glue and mixed it in a spray bottle of some sort and just sprayed it...worked quite well! I like this method too though since you don't end up spraying onto the tracks and such :)
@zzwheelz
@zzwheelz 11 жыл бұрын
Great vid, thanks. Because I had a fairly large layout to ballast and not the finances to use Wood Scenics I had to look for an alternative. I use beach sand (free). Colours vary depending on which beach I go to here in Western Australia. Using the same tech as in your video and it looks great. Also I buy black sand to make coal loads. Again, thanks.
@TheRunDanceKid
@TheRunDanceKid 11 жыл бұрын
just starting out with my first model, was worried about ballasting, this video has been very useful, thankyou very much, will be subscribing!
@klbird
@klbird 10 жыл бұрын
No nonsense tutorial without the usual unless unrelated comments. Good job.
@EverardJunction
@EverardJunction 13 жыл бұрын
@Tennisman66 For normal track cleaning I use the CMX track cleaner, other track cleaning cars such as the dapol one also work well.
@Swifty11Productions
@Swifty11Productions 11 жыл бұрын
Really helpful instructional video! Thanks for posting, shall be using this method on my new layout!
@aerobee58
@aerobee58 11 жыл бұрын
Nice info.The key like you said is making sure the ballast is fully damp before the glue is applied.Thanks.
@EverardJunction
@EverardJunction 13 жыл бұрын
@MrJezza31 Yes, it sort of shot out of the tube! I used it on other things after.
@JAS0NJW
@JAS0NJW 12 жыл бұрын
I modified several of my wagons to spread it over the track, and I only apply glue to the outside of the line, when a train goes over it it gives a nice affect, I re do the track every year
@Jerrico71
@Jerrico71 13 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I needed! I have looked at tons of youtube videos but to no avail. Thanks...Oooops...my bad...I mean a big CHEERS from the USA mate!
@davidfrobel7582
@davidfrobel7582 11 жыл бұрын
good vid,,getting all the tips for when I get round to building my layout,,thanks.
@xorvic
@xorvic 8 жыл бұрын
Do you use this method on points? would the glue not stop the point from moving when switched?
@dwightatnorthernstar1820
@dwightatnorthernstar1820 6 жыл бұрын
I finally bought a Proses spreader........worked GREAT
@EverardJunction
@EverardJunction 11 жыл бұрын
The stuff under the track is cork sheet which I use to give the track a raised profile. I have a video called "power and control" which shows you how the layout is wired up. I don't have any videos of progamming locos at the moment.
@EverardJunction
@EverardJunction 13 жыл бұрын
@jmsschooner I use a normal track rubber to rub off the glue. After the glue is gone i use the CMX track cleaner.
@dismaldog
@dismaldog 10 жыл бұрын
i did my very first ballast in N Gauge adopting this easy way.take your time and results show.everybody should watch this video before doing their own messy video's.
@EvilDarkCow
@EvilDarkCow 12 жыл бұрын
@EverardJunction thanks. BTW your vids are amazing! they have helped me build my layout which is still a huge WIP. Thanks again!
@simontaylor6184
@simontaylor6184 10 жыл бұрын
Brilliant, thank you
@davldcooksey4137
@davldcooksey4137 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, I will commence Ballantine tomorrow , 👍👍👍👍🚂.
@EverardJunction
@EverardJunction 11 жыл бұрын
In the late 1980s when the layout is set, quite a lot of the railway network was still wooden sleeper. Upgrading to concrete sleepers took place mainly in the 80s and 90s.
@soerenwizard
@soerenwizard 10 жыл бұрын
Excellent video.
@EverardJunction
@EverardJunction 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks, the stuff under the track is cork. It raises the track, makes it look a little more realistic.
@EverardJunction
@EverardJunction 12 жыл бұрын
@TheTrain700 As long as you are careful when lifting the track it can easily be re-used. I've done it with quite a few pieces of track.
@williekerr8063
@williekerr8063 10 жыл бұрын
great video, a good help to novice modellers
@tpe18509
@tpe18509 13 жыл бұрын
great! thanks for posting this video.
@EverardJunction
@EverardJunction 11 жыл бұрын
The smaller stuff will look different, so you might need to blend the two with some weathering around the track.
@Richardsrailway
@Richardsrailway 13 жыл бұрын
@EverardJunction , probably i would say as you stated earlier in one of your posts in that the track i had at the time was probably the steel type hornby did in the late 90's, most of the 1 st and 2nd radius curves i had were of the hornby type which were prone to accumilating this green film on the web of the rails, a great way to apply ballast, but on at least one of the layouts i have built over the last ten years i just left the ballast in the four foot loose and glued the cess or six foot
@EverardJunction
@EverardJunction 12 жыл бұрын
@Hartsock91 I would pull the clip out as the water might corrode the metal contacts. The cork is about 50mm wide.
@TheShadeTreeFixitMan
@TheShadeTreeFixitMan 10 жыл бұрын
Nice instructional video. Thanks
@DeanPark
@DeanPark 12 жыл бұрын
HI, do you have a set witdth which you cut your strips of cork? any particular shoulder wide for the ballast? also, do you glue cork to the baseboard or just pin them down with the track?
@jordanfowler4722
@jordanfowler4722 11 жыл бұрын
Great video mate
@MrKlf1956
@MrKlf1956 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing, very useful and well demonstrated. What could possibly go wrong?..lol
@janeswift9961
@janeswift9961 6 жыл бұрын
I wondered if adding a bit of dark acryrllic paint to the "mix" for the bit that goes down the four foot, would take some of the pain out of the weathering. Ready made diesel staining so to speak. Great vids by the way,
@whitespider8523
@whitespider8523 4 жыл бұрын
Very good, I will give it a go, thanks.
@raymiller9035
@raymiller9035 10 жыл бұрын
Great Video you make it look so easy brill thanks
@EverardJunction
@EverardJunction 13 жыл бұрын
@BMR5ify If you use very old hornby track from the 1980s or 1990s then it could rust as it used to be made from steel. These days Hornby, Bachmann and Peco track it nickel silver and doesn't rust. If track does rust when ballasted then simply remove the rust from the running surface with a track rubber or very fine sandpaper. I use Peco streamline code 100 track if you were wondering.
@EverardJunction
@EverardJunction 12 жыл бұрын
A video for that is uploading right now. Should be live in the next hour.
@williamtaylor7744
@williamtaylor7744 8 жыл бұрын
New layout builder here, I ve got all my track and my cork board and before I use your great ballasting technique do I PVA glue the cork to my base board then pin track onto cork?? THANKS!!!! :D
@EverardJunction
@EverardJunction 13 жыл бұрын
@gtacrusher123 The method I use is the most used way of ballasting, I have tried the other method you mention and it does work. The problem is its very messy and uses a lot of glue.
@aidanmcpartlin9357
@aidanmcpartlin9357 Жыл бұрын
Nice informative vid.
@EverardJunction
@EverardJunction 12 жыл бұрын
@Hartsock91 Cover the points up when you ballast the main part of the track. Ballast the point on their own using an eye dropper and don't spray the water on them.
@EverardJunction
@EverardJunction 13 жыл бұрын
@EastMidlandsSteam Yes use the same method, but make sure that you tape over the point blades so you don't get glue or water on them.
@EverardJunction
@EverardJunction 13 жыл бұрын
@modeltrainteen95 I use a CMX track cleaning wagon
@jack_da_trainspotter4923
@jack_da_trainspotter4923 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the help this is going to be handy when I do it
@johnc2ful
@johnc2ful 12 жыл бұрын
great video as usual. I thought i could get it cheaper than Woodland Scenics at £10. Looked at the internet but postage was high. Then found roofing grit from a roofing supplier, grey and brown mixed, 2 kg, £2
@EverardJunction
@EverardJunction 13 жыл бұрын
@BMR5ify No you don't need underlay, I use it the raise the track, thats all it's for.
@EverardJunction
@EverardJunction 13 жыл бұрын
@BlueberryJunction Basically I use the same method. However it is important the you cover up the switching part of the point as well as masking the point blades. I used insulating tape to do this. I might do a video about it but i can't promise anything because i've already recieved a number of other request.
@EverardJunction
@EverardJunction 13 жыл бұрын
@samster412 It can make it abit quieter, but i use it for raising the track bed. It doesn't cost to much, a few pounds per roll i think.
@ussnautilusss-1687
@ussnautilusss-1687 7 жыл бұрын
I might try your way of gluing. Ive been trying Woodland scenic's liquid cement and its not doing the job
@finnallen6340
@finnallen6340 8 жыл бұрын
Can i use the method you use for your points on a piece of line like this.
@EverardJunction
@EverardJunction 13 жыл бұрын
@itgamer100 Thanks, ballasting make a huge difference.
@BellowFind
@BellowFind 12 жыл бұрын
Hey, great video, Just a quick question, when I finally ballast my track should I take the power clip out or leave it in? And how wide is your cork underlay?
@EverardJunction
@EverardJunction 12 жыл бұрын
@shazam75 I do. take a look at some of my later vids and you will be able to see.
@EverardJunction
@EverardJunction 13 жыл бұрын
@stillfreefilms Yes, i use one for points aswell. On normal track it doesn't really matter
@EverardJunction
@EverardJunction 13 жыл бұрын
@SuperBige62 Once track is ballasted it can be re-used, you do have to be very careful as it is easily damaged when it pulled up.
@EverardJunction
@EverardJunction 10 жыл бұрын
It can in small areas if you use a cheap glue. I weather the track afterwards anyway so it's not really an issue.
@EverardJunction
@EverardJunction 11 жыл бұрын
I get the Woodland Scenics stuff. I've used about 5 or 6 large bags/shakers
@EverardJunction
@EverardJunction 11 жыл бұрын
Check out howto - episode 11, you can see the finished ballast at the end of that.
@csxns
@csxns 13 жыл бұрын
Great.
@gerlandkent6377
@gerlandkent6377 2 ай бұрын
[thank, you for you're great video]👍
@EverardJunction
@EverardJunction 13 жыл бұрын
@gtacrusher123 Fairy liquid allows the glue to really soak into the ballast
@jhonfisher5236
@jhonfisher5236 10 жыл бұрын
You ever bumped the table or had to lean on it to get way over the other side? The trains also agitate it slightly when they roll past, the glue keeps it all in place and off the conductive parts.
@EverardJunction
@EverardJunction 11 жыл бұрын
Did you thoroughly clean the track after you ballasted it?
@davidstorm8879
@davidstorm8879 4 жыл бұрын
thank you very informative strait forward and nik good tip on wifes vib's i was watching a guy last week [jnw ho] in the end it was like watching paint dry, but alas he didn't like my comments about the paint anyway informative keep it up
@paulopires4103
@paulopires4103 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. A doubt, do you apply water first and then the glue? Thank you
@EverardJunction
@EverardJunction 13 жыл бұрын
@D335Media Unfortunatly I have now ballasted all points on the layout. I use the same method except i cover the moving bit with a piece of tape. Once the ballast is dry i remove the tape and add the ballast to that part and add the glue very carfully using an eye dropper.
@EchoAlphaRomeo
@EchoAlphaRomeo 13 жыл бұрын
Could you perhaps do one on ballasting over points mate? Great help so far.
@EverardJunction
@EverardJunction 11 жыл бұрын
What ballast did you use, some ballast types do go green.
@darrenmould8676
@darrenmould8676 Жыл бұрын
Hi i dont glue ballast just in case i need to get track up. Also i dont use cork it goes brittle. Dont use roll ballast it goes brittle quickly. interesting about Railmatch spray. I use a small paint brush to move ballast rather than a spoon. enjoyed it.
@hovermotion
@hovermotion 11 жыл бұрын
Nice demo
@EverardJunction
@EverardJunction 13 жыл бұрын
@hihat101 I know the kind of green you’re talking about, it has appeared on my layout in a small number of places where I have soldered wire droppers to the rails. None of the fishplates have gone green though. What kind of track did you use nickel or steel? Nickel is much more resistant to corrosion, steel isn’t and might go very green.
@TranspennineExp185
@TranspennineExp185 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks that is really helpful.
@madloverkriss5474
@madloverkriss5474 7 жыл бұрын
which things we need to make the model
@EverardJunction
@EverardJunction 11 жыл бұрын
I've always used pva for ballasting, i've not seen ballast done with copydex. As long as it dries clear I guess it would look the same. I have track pins but they are from before the ballast was applied. Once the ballast is dry you don't really need the track pins anymore.
@DeanPark
@DeanPark 10 жыл бұрын
Hi, I am now practising the ballasting on some test pieces of track. I have geoscenics stuff just now, but also have the stuff you have used on order. When I applied the glue the ballast tended to spread out a little at the shoulders. Why do you think this is? Was my glue too watery or too thick? Have you ever encountered this?, and if so could you offer some advice. Cheers. Dave
@EverardJunction
@EverardJunction 10 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave, this is a common occurrence if you have high shoulders at the edges of your track. I would suggest you apply a bead of neat PVA along each edge of where you want ballast to stop. Then apply the ballast and wet it slightly. Your PVA to water mix needs to be 50% water to glue. Then try to apply more in the centre of the track and let it naturally drain out to the edges. You can always apply more once it's dry if it needs it. Also don't forget the washing up liquid, it helps to avaiod the spreading. Hope that helps
@DeanPark
@DeanPark 10 жыл бұрын
Hi Richard, Yes this is great advice. My first attempts on short length of test tracks turned out well, they took a few days to dry up the cold loft though, so I will probably wait until spring to go for it in a big way. Quite pleased with my initial efforts, got some grey blend woodland scenic stuff today, think I will go with that! Perhaps I will do a video on it some day too lol. Cheers, Dave.
@Richardsrailway
@Richardsrailway 13 жыл бұрын
Hello there, handy video!, question, i have built layouts in the past using this method, however, when the glue dried although i ran a rail rubber on the running surface of the rails , i noticed that the glue got into the fishplates and caused the web of the rails to go a green colour and cause a slight rust, i did use to apply the glue a water sprayer like the one you used with water in it to begin with, but i filled this with a 50/50 mix of pva. water, and washing up liquid, still got rust.
@EverardJunction
@EverardJunction 12 жыл бұрын
@TRAINALEX100 It can sometimes, I weather all the track so it not much of an issue
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