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How To Evaluate & Identify Sharpening Stones Found "In The Wild"

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flipsfan78

flipsfan78

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@felixf5211
@felixf5211 3 ай бұрын
This came up in my feed. I'd recently purchased some precision ground tool room stones, and now have honing stone videos to watch. I'm blown away by how much you guys know about this.
@BatCaveCreations
@BatCaveCreations 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, great video. Thank you and... MAKE MORE!!!!!
@flipsfan78
@flipsfan78 Жыл бұрын
It's been over a year since this one. I'm really considering doing a revised '23 version
@RafaelHe
@RafaelHe 2 жыл бұрын
Carborundum stones are inexpensive but will abrade anything. They are extremely useful. The Carborundum Co. ones are good ones to have. The fact that they've been in production at an industrial level for over a century is an indicator of how useful they are.
@flipsfan78
@flipsfan78 2 жыл бұрын
They are great, my only complaint is that they tend to load up and glass over rather quickly, and unlike natural stones, it's very tough make them fresh again.
@thiago.assumpcao
@thiago.assumpcao 2 жыл бұрын
@@flipsfan78 Maybe we have used different Carborundum stones. The ones being sold in Brazil are soft, cut really fast, never load up, never glaze. Only issue I got is that the mud they release leaves an ugly scratch on the side of the knife if you sharpen at low angle.
@Stormcloakvictory
@Stormcloakvictory Жыл бұрын
@@thiago.assumpcao are you sure that is a carborundum stone then? I'm no expert and may be wrong but from my experience they're like a softer/rougher ceramic stone. Zero mud/slurry. Quite aggressive when fresh, loads up full of steel in under 100-200 passes. Tough to clean. I have about 3 doubles of em, given over the year.
@thiago.assumpcao
@thiago.assumpcao Жыл бұрын
@@Stormcloakvictory There is a Brazilian brand called Carborundum. They are famous for selling soft stones based on silicon carbide. I have model 108N and 328N, both have same grit 120/320.
@Jake-bt3fc
@Jake-bt3fc 2 ай бұрын
@@flipsfan78 Arkansas stones are notorious for loading up.
@fishinjunky
@fishinjunky 2 жыл бұрын
that coticule is gorgeous. I'm jealous of your collection!
@fishinjunky
@fishinjunky 2 жыл бұрын
That Double Diamond hone! WOW!
@dappershaves
@dappershaves 2 жыл бұрын
you sir, know your stuff. really liked this video and others you have put out. many honing “guru’s” can learn from you, and should!
@RickyMcRick
@RickyMcRick 2 жыл бұрын
Very well done!!!!!!!
@chrisfell2621
@chrisfell2621 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the vid. I've never tested density that way. I'm going to have to look into it.
@billwaterson9492
@billwaterson9492 Жыл бұрын
Great idea for a video man. I've got a stack of these from the wild, but no idea what they are
@ajhoward8888
@ajhoward8888 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite is the Arkansas Translucent. Such an underrated stone. The best part is that it pre-polishes with oil and mirror shines when it's dry. It also doesn't load up as quickly and wears so slowly that I've barely ever had to lap it. I've been looking for a surgical black in the wild but they're as rare as hen's teeth where I live. Havent found either of the belgians either.
@andrewnawarycz3026
@andrewnawarycz3026 8 ай бұрын
The reason is in the name where they are found. You might be lucky if there's corticule substrate to mine.
@zachwaddill7801
@zachwaddill7801 Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@andymsmith
@andymsmith 2 жыл бұрын
I collect all stones new and used I clean them up and boy the colors are really nice I also flatten and reset the grit if I can . I even have a clay brick I put a 300 grit on one side. And yes it does slurry but it is a clay red brick. Ones with a label I don't clean so as not to destroy the label.
@tk423b
@tk423b Жыл бұрын
Specific gravity is density. The reason the suspension tests works is that the specific gravity of water is one. So you are back calculating the volume of the item as a SG of one.
@Master...deBater
@Master...deBater Жыл бұрын
How fine are the Indian Pond Mika Schist scythe stones?
@flipsfan78
@flipsfan78 Жыл бұрын
They're toothier than average, in my experience. The sparkles are usually mica platelets that may include other crystalline growth structures. Usually quite dense but still friable enough that you always seem to have a fresh surface, etc. I've seen a range of schists, so like anything else in nature, the variance is wide
@jsexton54
@jsexton54 3 ай бұрын
Morphine, that's one of my favorite bands!
@flipsfan78
@flipsfan78 3 ай бұрын
R.I.P. Mark Sandman
@bigoldgrizzly
@bigoldgrizzly 3 ай бұрын
my favorite painkiller !
@fishinjunky
@fishinjunky 2 жыл бұрын
helluva Translucent stone you got there. Nice score.
@pharmistice4565
@pharmistice4565 Жыл бұрын
Question on specific gravity test -- are the numbers affected by the fact that the stone is full of oil? Like doesn't that make the dry weight more than it would be stripped? Does the suspended weight increase proportionally so the end number is still accurate? I have a couple I'm pretty sure are old Washitas both were between 2.3 and 2.35 sg but that was after degreasing
@flipsfan78
@flipsfan78 Жыл бұрын
Not by much appreciable difference in my few control tests
@andymsmith
@andymsmith 2 жыл бұрын
I had washed all the stones I bought and was really surprised at what I got and the colors were unreal .
@piecetoyou8285
@piecetoyou8285 2 жыл бұрын
if you find a stone thats been only used for oil in 30 years , Then you come along get rid of oil from the outer service but oil is running through the stone would this have a dramatic effect on gravity weight,as water would be repelled from entering,
@darrylportelli
@darrylportelli 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool 😎😎😎
@marcymerrill6851
@marcymerrill6851 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! I learned a shit-ton from this video!
@naturalwhetstone8100
@naturalwhetstone8100 2 ай бұрын
Maybe interested in Indonesian natural Whetstone?
@realitytx
@realitytx 6 ай бұрын
You provide a lot of information about sharpening stones. Is there a way to determine the grit of a stone? Since most of your video involves subjective determining, I feel like there is no good way to objectively determine grit.
@gregmills2876
@gregmills2876 2 жыл бұрын
What is that Gizmo?
@jimstarr2216
@jimstarr2216 8 ай бұрын
I've picked up stones in the wild, garage sales, estate sales. What grit silicone carbide powder do you use to clean up the stones. Thanks for all your information, it's a learning process.
@flipsfan78
@flipsfan78 8 ай бұрын
Depends on how hard the stone is, I usually prefer the rough stuff; 60 or 80 grit powder to start. The coarse grit will wear down to a finer grit, so you can get a range of action for one money.
@jimstarr2216
@jimstarr2216 8 ай бұрын
@@flipsfan78 Thanks for the response, I appreciate it.
@tk423b
@tk423b Жыл бұрын
God a beautiful green stone on Amazon. However, the wet saw that was used to cut it needs some maintenance.
@rickdff62
@rickdff62 7 ай бұрын
Hi, are you supposed to remove the label on that Pike stone or is that side not useable. I ask because I found an "Old Rook" brand stone that is tan on one side and dark grey on the reverse that has an "authenticity" label stuck on. I was thinking the sticker side might be a courser grit but am unsure. Good videos good sir and I learned a lot. Cheers.
@flipsfan78
@flipsfan78 7 ай бұрын
Save that sticker and rock. It's a collectable Belgian coticule. Worth a fair amount for the label alone if it's in good condition
@flipsfan78
@flipsfan78 7 ай бұрын
Labels always add value to stones, particularly the older ones
@rickdff62
@rickdff62 7 ай бұрын
@@flipsfan78 Thank you for the quick reply. I'll probably just leave the sticker on and just use the coticule side. So just to confirm, the label side is actually useable (coarser grit?) if I chose to remove it? Thanks again. Cheers.
@flipsfan78
@flipsfan78 7 ай бұрын
@rickdff62 Traditionally the purple side is referred to as Belgian Blue Whetstone. The two layers occur together naturally, but personally I find the darker sides dull and slow, it's not coarser, I think they're used as a finisher, something akin to a hard strop
@reddustofafrica
@reddustofafrica Жыл бұрын
Hi. Thanks so much for this. I’ve learnt a fortune from you. I need some help with identification of a natural stone. How can I get hold of you ?
@flipsfan78
@flipsfan78 Жыл бұрын
Find the Facebook group "Can I Have It? Vintage Tool Sales and Auctions", then ask for the Guy With Stones 😃
@locknload9143
@locknload9143 Жыл бұрын
Question: I have my Dad's stone. I'm 54 and remember it from when I was a kid. It is grey/ beige and has a good weight to it. it's marked HORTON combination oil Stone JBB. Also says bear with a pitcher or a Bear head.I lost the box it came in. Can you tell me anything about it?I'm going away this weekend and would like to sharper my axe/ machete/ hatchet and a few knives. I understand without seeing it it might be difficult. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated brother. 👍 P.S. you do sound like a geologist😅.
@willong1000
@willong1000 2 жыл бұрын
What is "slope glass" mentioned at 7:30 in the video?
@flipsfan78
@flipsfan78 2 жыл бұрын
Float Glass, just a glass plate.
@willong1000
@willong1000 2 жыл бұрын
@@flipsfan78 Thanks, I actually thought I heard "float" at first but wasn't familiar with that adjective applied to glass and it was not clearly enunciated, at least not for my old ears. So, I turned on the closed caption and it said "slope" glass. 🤣 I appreciate the reply!
@IDCrish
@IDCrish 9 ай бұрын
Stone guy, I'm from argentina. I require your wisdom identifying some stones I found in a really old house. I believe they were from a german inmigrant that came here around 1920, maybe earlier. I can send pictures and i do have a kind of "microscope" for my phone. Where can I send you pictures of them? Maybe you find them interesting. I could get their specific gravity if it helps.
@cash1810
@cash1810 2 жыл бұрын
I gotta stone that's a Grey with sparkle can't tell what it is
@thebrassmonkey100
@thebrassmonkey100 7 ай бұрын
Dude....morphine is the tits.as of now I'm just a few minutes into the video but I suspect I'll hear your playing the whole album, and so I say unto you, fine sir, you earned a sub.
@thomasgronek6469
@thomasgronek6469 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for the video, the background music is just a bit too much
@fishinjunky
@fishinjunky 2 жыл бұрын
Have you found any jnats in the wild? Japanese Natural Stones.
@dustinmccune5689
@dustinmccune5689 2 жыл бұрын
Are you willing to sell?
@flipsfan78
@flipsfan78 2 жыл бұрын
I do and will. Some of the stones featured in this video are already on to new homes. You should reach out to me on Facebook: Adamo Agnello. Messanger works best, if you ar interested in anything in particular.
@trickedouttech321
@trickedouttech321 2 жыл бұрын
You can't hold the stone in water with your hands. there is no way to hold it perfectly still. you have to hang it from a hook or something stable with zero give. There is no way to test SG by hand.
@DigitalVideoFromOz
@DigitalVideoFromOz Жыл бұрын
Just tryin to help. Its not sili-CONE carbide. It is pronounced sili-CON.
@yellowdog762jb
@yellowdog762jb 3 ай бұрын
Interesting vid topic, but I could only watch a portion as it was a strain to listen to you while trying to filter out the background noise.
@fishinjunky
@fishinjunky 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to pick your brain sometime on where how you're finding these stones. But wouldn't expect you to give up any secrets.
@norrisfong6445
@norrisfong6445 2 жыл бұрын
Flea markets. Antique stores. Garage/estate sales. EBay. Online searches. You will meet ppl by looking in these places and they know ppl which widens your search area
@jermsbestfriend9296
@jermsbestfriend9296 Ай бұрын
This isn't the wild this is thrift
@rp6879
@rp6879 2 жыл бұрын
You're cranking on the coffee too much get to the point and make it worth everybody's interest so far I've seen nothing!!
@mingulay29
@mingulay29 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen and learned a huge amount from this video. What happens to somebody who knows a vast amount about a subject is that it's difficult to get what they know into a shortish video. Nothing to do with coffee. Learn a bit of humility and above all gratitude.
@Bojangles1987
@Bojangles1987 Жыл бұрын
Ya I don’t enjoy the music but learned a bunch
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