How to file ITR 3 for Futures and Options | Turnover calculation for Futures and option

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Futures and Options, commonly referred to as F&O, are financial derivatives instruments traded on the stock exchanges. These are contracts signed by two parties for trading a stock asset at a predetermined price on a later date. They are agreements that allow investors to speculate or hedge their positions based on the future price movements of underlying assets such as stocks, commodities, currencies, or indices.
Benefits of Declaring Your F&O Loss
Declaring your Futures and Options (F&O) loss while filing your income tax return can provide several benefits, including:
Tax Deduction: A prime benefit of showing the loss is you may set it off against any other income earned by you. A loss on an F&O trade can be adjusted against all income apart from your salary. This may include income from house property, business or profession, or any other source. It reduces your overall tax liability. This can help in lowering your tax liability.
Carry Forward: If your F&O losses exceed your total income in a particular financial year, you can carry forward the unabsorbed losses to future years. These losses can be set off against F&O gains in subsequent years, reducing your tax liability in those years.
Tax Compliance: Declaring F&O losses ensures that you are in compliance with the income tax laws and accurately reporting your financial transactions. Non-disclosure of losses can lead to penalties and legal consequences.In case you have loss from F&O trading, there are tax benefits associated with reporting losses.
Audit Requirement: If you have F&O losses, declaring them in your tax return can help you avoid tax audit requirements. Tax audit is mandatory for certain taxpayers whose turnover or gross receipts exceed a specified limit. Properly declaring losses may keep you below that threshold.
Documentation for Future Reference: Properly declaring F&O losses provides you with a record of your financial transactions, which may be useful for future references, such as loan applications or financial planning.
Adjustment against F&O Gains: If you have both F&O gains and losses in a financial year, declaring the losses allows you to offset them against the gains, reducing the overall tax liability on F&O transactions.
What is the Tax Treatment for F&O Profits or Losses?
Futures and Options trading under Section 43(5) are considered as non-speculative transactions. This means any income that comes from F&O trading is taxed in a similar way as that of business transactions. Therefore, any F&O loss is treated as a business loss.
Such loss on F&O transactions is not subject to tax. However, reporting it in the ITR lets you claim certain expenses that have been incurred while conducting the F&O trade. Given below are some expenses you can claim as a deduction -
Rent of the premises where F&O trade is conducted.
Administration expenses for the trade. For example, telephone bills and Internet.
Salaries of the employees or individuals you have hired for the F&O trade.
Brokerage, commission, or charges of experts.
Depreciation on the assets used for F&O transactions.
Note: It is necessary for you to have proof of all these transactions in the form of bills and receipts which are filed properly. However, cash expenses exceeding Rs.10,000 cannot be claimed. In addition to this, you can also deduct the amount paid as Securities Transaction Tax (STT).
How to show F&O Loss in ITR?
In the F&O loss scenario, transactions can be set off against all other income sources except salary. This is a prime benefit. These income sources could be a business or profession, house property, or other sources.
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@shubhamkanojia4068
@shubhamkanojia4068 11 күн бұрын
I searched for so many videos to file my ITR3 while showing FnO losses. This one was the most helpful and I completed all sections by pausing the video. Finally I have filed the ITR3. Thank you so much sir 🎉
@manmeeth
@manmeeth 3 күн бұрын
Brilliantly explained with rule position of each section.
@Akshay.Vasani
@Akshay.Vasani Күн бұрын
Very specific & to the point video.... Great work 👍
@amiiiraj
@amiiiraj 4 күн бұрын
Very helpful and straight forward. Thankyou
@avtarsingh761
@avtarsingh761 29 күн бұрын
Sandeep ji .....thanks for another video on .itr 3.....i have been filing using your last year videos ,this one you taught us how to fill details in a trading account instead of p/l account.which is new for me. My query is regarding off market transactions when we transfer shares to our family members, how should we report that gain or loss...is it under capital gain as usual... 2. When we tender shares for buy back ,should we report that In itr. If yes than how to do that.
@anwerhusain1024
@anwerhusain1024 Сағат бұрын
excellent explanation
@understandthewordsfeelthes3036
@understandthewordsfeelthes3036 10 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing helpful information 👍👌
@CAsandeepkumar
@CAsandeepkumar 10 күн бұрын
Thanks
@cairfanalam
@cairfanalam 20 күн бұрын
PLEASE CHECK LATEST GUIDLINES OF ICAI ON TAX AUDIT 2023, WHERE PREMIUM VALUE IS NOT INCLUDED INTO TURNOVER, PLEASE CORRECT
@pawansingh-fs2hz
@pawansingh-fs2hz 15 күн бұрын
Volume level maker research analyst N charan reddy is a fraud
@sinovicks3768
@sinovicks3768 3 күн бұрын
Only Absolute Profit should be considered in Futures and Options. No need to add premium.
@ajaysrivastava4224
@ajaysrivastava4224 12 күн бұрын
Do we need to fill form 10ie to opt for old regime in order to carry forward the losses to subsequent year. Or same can be carried forward in new regime.
@nikhilchaturvedani975
@nikhilchaturvedani975 12 күн бұрын
Currency derivatives trade hua last year usko kaha show kare? And please give balance sheet excel link
@arunsahu5469
@arunsahu5469 8 күн бұрын
I had loss in FnO in FY 2022-23, so filed ITR 3 for the first time in AY2023-24. After the loss was set off, a loss of 1,22,000 carried forward for adjustment in future assessment years. In the current financial year 2023-24 I didn't trade in FnO. I have a capital gain of 91,000 (both STCG and LTCG) from the sale of mutual fund. Kindly reply (i)whether I am required to file ITR 3 in AY2024-25 to set off FnO loss of previous year. (II)whether the carried forward FnO Losses can be set off against capital gains, if I file ITR 2, as I am no more trading FnO.
@hrs1756
@hrs1756 4 күн бұрын
Sir if my income from business that is f&o is less than 1lakh, stcg 37k, ltcg 1k and stipend income 1.8 lakh. Should i need to maintain books of accounts as income from pgbp is minimal. Please share your answer . If so do i need to fill p&l account instead of no account cases in schedule p&l
@urbanbaba6216
@urbanbaba6216 10 күн бұрын
Can we take Sec 44AD for F&O cases
@shaikhazher1627
@shaikhazher1627 8 күн бұрын
Dear Sir, I have to fill F&O loss of last 8 years, can i fill in current year ITR filing ? can you please help me ? I have filed ITR-1 till date considering salary, now can i fill ITR-3 with last 8 year loss ?
@rajkumarjain8309
@rajkumarjain8309 Күн бұрын
Sir , In f&o profit kaise show kare
@sweetdreams1056
@sweetdreams1056 9 күн бұрын
How to file ITR Delta exchange India fno trending video plz sir
@prabirsarkar1336
@prabirsarkar1336 12 сағат бұрын
Sir agar revenue from Operations pe sales figure dikhana hai And purchase pe purchase figure dikhana hai f&o ka then sabse pehle Jo bataya f&o turnover which is absolute figure of profit and loss uska kya kam hai Please batayiye
@puneshmahto
@puneshmahto Күн бұрын
Sir ji pichhle saal ka file kr sakte hai kya...
@vikaswahi7960
@vikaswahi7960 13 күн бұрын
Dear Sandeep Ji, I have the Total Sale value Rs 459914 and total purchase value Rs 478470, so actual loss in year is Rs 18556. However after applying ABS in all losses and profits, the yearly value is Rs 109027. Can you please confirm whether I have to make books of accounts.... P & L and B/S as per in act 44AA. Kindly confirm and help
@stockview6650
@stockview6650 6 күн бұрын
Salary person apna salary me se zerodha me paise dalta h future and option ke liye, propriter fund me wo dalna h kya ya or kuch
@monishasingh1254
@monishasingh1254 6 күн бұрын
Can ca in practice do fno in their individual capacity
@ramchogale7534
@ramchogale7534 3 күн бұрын
Hi Sir Could you please make vedio on how to make complete balance sheet for future and option, delivery stock and mutual funds intraday, investment in NPS, BONDS PPF etc...
@stockview6650
@stockview6650 3 күн бұрын
category of defect b/d getting error of this
@kalikantjha1957
@kalikantjha1957 5 күн бұрын
Where to turnover and loss in itr 3?
@tusharingale1640
@tusharingale1640 16 күн бұрын
Sir main salary person ho mera f & o turnover 7.9 lakh hain our loss 1.9 lakh muzhe books of account maintain karna padega kya itr -3 bharta hu to balance sheet maintain karni padegi kya
@hareshpanjwani1848
@hareshpanjwani1848 14 күн бұрын
Yes u have to maintain books of accounts but only for F&O transactions
@dayanandbilla3526
@dayanandbilla3526 2 күн бұрын
Sir, Two years back i made loss in F&O trading, i am not filed ITR. Must and Sould be file Itr even loss booked. Please suggest.
@CAsandeepkumar
@CAsandeepkumar 2 күн бұрын
Not possible now
@shivampandit4588
@shivampandit4588 24 күн бұрын
What happen if we do not fill ITR because my loss is 4500 only🕶️
@tarangcorporation810
@tarangcorporation810 6 күн бұрын
@CA Sandeep Kumar sir option buy aur option sell ka data ITR 3 me show karna hai ya sirf Dirrence turnover aur loss hi mention karna hai.. mera sirf option ka kam hai turnover 39 lakh hai..aur loss show kar ke carry forward karna hao aur option buy aur sell ka value to 22- 22 crore ho jaat hai to koi issue hoga nay sir ??? bcoz crores me hai buy aur sell ki value
@prabirsarkar1336
@prabirsarkar1336 12 сағат бұрын
Aapka question sahi hai main bhi yehi puch raha hu
@prabirsarkar1336
@prabirsarkar1336 12 сағат бұрын
Agar aapko answer mile then please batayiyega
@naveensingh5411
@naveensingh5411 2 күн бұрын
Apko turnover m absolute turnover show krni chaiye thi naa ki sale turnover
@rahulyoutube209
@rahulyoutube209 26 күн бұрын
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@sachinharale4578
@sachinharale4578 22 күн бұрын
Hello Sir, Balance sheet full time traders k liye hai na only?
@CAsandeepkumar
@CAsandeepkumar 21 күн бұрын
Yes
@jigs047
@jigs047 18 күн бұрын
​@@CAsandeepkumar what do youean full time trader ? Please elaborate. If turnover is 20lac, which section will be applicable? Please provide information
@kalikantjha1957
@kalikantjha1957 5 күн бұрын
Sale and purchase putting in itr for fno transaction not correct
@Panda-gw8ot
@Panda-gw8ot 3 күн бұрын
Yes you are correct.
@tauseefali4668
@tauseefali4668 10 күн бұрын
Sir i did not file f & o losses of 15L from past 2 yr. Is there any way to file now? I am a salaried person.. I've been filing regular ITRs.
@MsVinod10
@MsVinod10 6 сағат бұрын
How much turnover sir
@shuvame5162
@shuvame5162 8 күн бұрын
I have an F&O loss of 12.5L & turnover is around 58L, whether an audit is required for that or not. Please suggest. Thanks
@makwanaghanshyam7
@makwanaghanshyam7 8 күн бұрын
Not
@CAsandeepkumar
@CAsandeepkumar 7 күн бұрын
Not applicable
@shuvame5162
@shuvame5162 7 күн бұрын
@@CAsandeepkumar thanks, but I have been told that "If presumptive taxation is opted in the past then tax audit is mandatory" Is that right?
@vrushyeram
@vrushyeram 4 күн бұрын
Yes
@Surya-wx4wd
@Surya-wx4wd 21 күн бұрын
Sir itr3 me stcg loss ko dikha sakte hai ya nhi Ya short term loss ko dikhaya hi nhi jata pls reply
@CAsandeepkumar
@CAsandeepkumar 21 күн бұрын
Dikha sakte hai. Dikhana chaiye. Only then u will be able to carry it forward
@Surya-wx4wd
@Surya-wx4wd 21 күн бұрын
@@CAsandeepkumar thankyou sir
@shivampandit4588
@shivampandit4588 24 күн бұрын
We r under 44AB so it's compulsory to fill ITR?
@CAsandeepkumar
@CAsandeepkumar 7 күн бұрын
Question is not very clear
@shivampandit4588
@shivampandit4588 7 күн бұрын
@@CAsandeepkumar Maine 2 month trade kiya and loss 3500 hai bs , and mai ITR bharke claim nhi Lena chahta to mai ITR n bhari to koi problem? Problem ye hai ki my father is a government officer aur baad me pata chala ki government officer ke relative option trading nhi kr skte , kya kru ! Meri capital bhi small use hui hai
@TheRationalMan25
@TheRationalMan25 10 күн бұрын
Complete capital loss To balance sheet kaise banaye??
@CAsandeepkumar
@CAsandeepkumar 10 күн бұрын
Balance sheet will be 0, 0
@Panda-gw8ot
@Panda-gw8ot 3 күн бұрын
In case of options, the premium ie; sale value to be added to the turnover calculation. Also this turnover should be mentioned as sales in ITR, profit being fixed, purchases will be the balancing figure. What you have shown is wrong.
@naveensingh5411
@naveensingh5411 2 күн бұрын
Absolutely right absolute turnover shown karna chaiye tha turnover pey ...jaise ye turnover dhikha raha h iss hisab se toh tax audit applicable ho jayega bnde pey
@MEDITATION12581
@MEDITATION12581 10 күн бұрын
How to calculate two different account
@CAsandeepkumar
@CAsandeepkumar 10 күн бұрын
Please add the sub heads and show
@Trade_LikeA_Professional
@Trade_LikeA_Professional 8 күн бұрын
Sir I am doing Trading from 3.5 years And I had a loss of nearly 10 lakhs and I have not filed any ITR is it mandatory to file the iTR even I am in loss?? And I am not doing any job now I had done job for 1 year only Soo please help me what to do ??
@CAsandeepkumar
@CAsandeepkumar 7 күн бұрын
Yes it should be filed
@Trade_LikeA_Professional
@Trade_LikeA_Professional 7 күн бұрын
@@CAsandeepkumar ok sir How can I do it can you help me out to fill my ITR of 3 years with carry forwarding my loss??
@dheerajpatidar17
@dheerajpatidar17 23 күн бұрын
Wese to aap ko trading chod deni chahiye 🤣🤣🤣. Thanks for the video sir 🙏🙏
@CAsandeepkumar
@CAsandeepkumar 23 күн бұрын
😀it's not my PL by the way 😁
@desitraderfo
@desitraderfo 11 күн бұрын
What u charge for filing ITR for fno
@CAsandeepkumar
@CAsandeepkumar 11 күн бұрын
Hello, contact details in description
@desitraderfo
@desitraderfo 10 күн бұрын
@@CAsandeepkumar you can reply here I am doing job and I have loss from fno of 41 lacs
@shivampandit4588
@shivampandit4588 24 күн бұрын
Sir pehle bata do kitna capital rhta hai to compulsory hai ITR bharna?
@CAsandeepkumar
@CAsandeepkumar 24 күн бұрын
It's compulsory if u do stock market transactions
@shivampandit4588
@shivampandit4588 24 күн бұрын
@@CAsandeepkumar What happen if we do not fill ITR?
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