How To Fire A Live Steam Locomotive

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This is the first video in my new "how-to" series. In this video viewers will be shown how to fire a coal fired Allen Models Mogul. This video is geared to folks who may not be in the Live Steam hobby, people in the hobby that may need some help, and those who are just seeking some good entertainment. A special thanks to Blake for doing this video, and letting us use his beautiful engine. Thanks for watching The Steam Channel!
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@TheSteamChannel 11 жыл бұрын

Allen Models and Little Engines have been around for a long time. They both offer a variety of locomotive kits. There are several folks who custom build these locomotives for special orders, but that route is always the most expensive.

@redtheman302 11 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU!!!!!!!! I BEEN looking for a video like this for the last SEVERAL HOURS!!!!!! my work is complete today!

@TheSteamChannel 11 жыл бұрын

Here is the first video in our new "How-To" series

@jbclassic2 11 жыл бұрын

That sir, is one the very best instructional videos on this subject that I have ever had the pleasure to watch. I am no expert on the subject, but I understood every instruction provided. Clear concise and entertaining, Thankyou.

@nswgrenthusiast3777 6 жыл бұрын

When I’m older I want one!! It looks so fun to be a engineer!

@ThomastheCameraHog 10 жыл бұрын

This is really interesting!

@Majk369 4 жыл бұрын

the dawn of a legend

@TheSteamChannel 11 жыл бұрын

Sure, that is a great idea! I'll add that to the list for the summer.

@Dallas-Nyberg 10 жыл бұрын

Beautiful loco

@shawnsmith5852 10 жыл бұрын

Great video. My only suggestion is mic up the presenter. Then we can hear him better.

@santiagobotero9335 7 жыл бұрын

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@aaronpedersen4886 8 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing the video. Very interesting. How ling does it take to reach operating pressure.

@mog5858 10 жыл бұрын

thanks great info you did a good job

@TrainBandit Жыл бұрын

Great video

@Prowler901 11 жыл бұрын

Great video guys! I enjoyed watching it. Keep 'em comin'. One thought though... the volume of your ending credits was way higher than the rest. Almost blew my ears off. ;)

@robc1169 6 жыл бұрын

What are the 3 knobs on the tender for

@mikebones9667 8 жыл бұрын

Nice video!! Didn't realize how much work went into it. You guys run diesel too? Is there any operating sessions filmed?

@FapHappie 10 жыл бұрын

Very interesting!

@cneider1 11 жыл бұрын

Well done, Sir! A lot of things I never saw before. Coal bunker liner, Quick disconnect water fittings. Lighting fire from underneath with a torch. Were those zerk fittings for the grease?

@kirbyyork7669 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve recently took interest in an Allen Harpur 2-4-0 and painting it like a Southern Pacific locomotive and building a Vanderbilt style tender for it, and fire it on propane.

@SanjayKumarWighmal Жыл бұрын

Great I am also starting Harpur

@mattseymour8637 5 жыл бұрын

What size coal would you recommend for a 3.5inch loco?

@ChrisJB84 11 жыл бұрын

Awesome video!!! I would like to get into live steam railroading, but my "local" track is about 2 hours away, and its a private track! :( Oh well, but very awesome video, and great tutorial!!!

@TheSteamChannel 11 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I haven't seen many live steam O scale locomotives. I have only seen one, and it was custom made. I know that ACCUCRAFT makes live steam locomotives in, I believe, G scale. I saw an HO live steam locomotive once at a hobby show, but I don't recall the brand.

@warrenmcfadden3918 8 жыл бұрын

Whats are some of the differences in firing coal steam engines over propane.

@Trainman0425 11 жыл бұрын

What are the most popular 7 1/2 gauge Live Steam Locomotive manufacturers around 1980-Present

@jma7930 11 жыл бұрын

nice vid bro

@choopsk6734 6 жыл бұрын

What is the chemical you are adding to the water? turtle industries ????? Thanks

@PalomboDylan 4 жыл бұрын

What about washing out the boiler of all the scale and gunk? Do you guys have a video on that? If not, can you guys make one?

@ad356 9 жыл бұрын

have these boilers ever exploded? are these as dangerous as a full scale steam can be if they are not rebuilt and maintained like full scale steam. not saying that full sized steam arent safe but they require extensive maintenance to keep them that way

@bavarianbanshee 11 жыл бұрын

Do you have to do all of this, every single time you fire the locomotive?

@logantheodorou764 8 жыл бұрын

is there a test that you fave to do?

@tylerphillips1698 11 жыл бұрын

I was just wondering, about how much would one of those locomotives cost and is there a club in oklahoma?

@NPminnetonka 9 жыл бұрын

how long on average would this process take on an engine a similar size as that one while working at the same pace in this video?

@TheSteamChannel 9 жыл бұрын

+RailYardWarrior The fire-up process generally takes between 45-60 minutes.

@larrylewislarry 11 жыл бұрын

"If they don't like getting dirty, they shouldn't be around steam engines anyway...." Too true!

@trakakis1 11 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much.

@nigel_w 11 жыл бұрын

Why is LPG torch bad? the guys I know dip the wood in kero to light it instead, is that what you use or is there another way?

@TheSteamChannel 11 жыл бұрын

This locomotive is from the Praire State Live Steamers in Big Rock, IL

@IllinoisTrains1 11 жыл бұрын

There aren't any zerk fittings for grease on the locomotive but instead small grease inlets on each driving wheel.

@AlexW5354 10 жыл бұрын

What type of coal is that?

@CLELDKFKEJ 11 жыл бұрын

How much for one of these fine locomotives?

@thevacuumtubejunky9774 7 жыл бұрын

Great video: Just curious, what does an engine like that cost???, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL ENGINE!. Kind regards! Eric Dee.

@trakakis1 11 жыл бұрын

where are you guys located? I'd love to see this train run.

@lvgk 11 жыл бұрын

where was this filmed at ?

@TheSteamChannel 11 жыл бұрын

Thank You! lol Sorry, I'll try to tone it down for the next video.

@WindersRanger 11 жыл бұрын

You can also use charcoal briquets soaked in kero they transition over to coal a lot easier

@mattseymour8637 5 жыл бұрын

Do they work for smaller live steam locos to?

@davidstillman4271 9 жыл бұрын

Needs to do a post script voice over for this video. It is a well presented with the exception of the audio. Safety concerns should also be presented. It is still a good video

@TheSteamChannel 11 жыл бұрын

Built, these locomotives range from $8,000-$15,000. It depends on the seller. If you build the locomotive from the kit, it would be much cheaper, but you have to invest a lot of time in the machining (could be years). I don't believe the boiler is included either (that would be another $3k ish). If you type "Allen models mogul price list" on google, the first link that comes up is a breakdown of the kits stages & the prices. There are 7 live steam railroads in Oklahoma.

@ExploreLiveSteam 11 жыл бұрын

Yes, it is a tedious process but it is well worth it to run the engine for the day.

@Yosislarson 10 жыл бұрын

Where are you at

@caseyjonesfan 10 жыл бұрын

how far apart are your wheels im making blue prints based off of #618 with a early Consolidation twist and i wanted to the gauge that you run on because it looks more managabel

@IllinoisTrains1 10 жыл бұрын

It's 7.5 inch gauge if that's what you're asking.

@caseyjonesfan 10 жыл бұрын

ok thank you

@grantbelton1288 10 жыл бұрын

caseyjonesfan Casey, it will also depend on what part of the world you are in. In most of North America it is 7.5 inch gauge. In the rest of the world it is 7.25 inch gauge. I believe in some North Eastern states of America they have 7.25 inch gauge.

@logantheodorou764 8 жыл бұрын

Where do you oprate? Are you open for tours?

@TheSteamChannel 8 жыл бұрын

+Logan Theodorou This video was filmed at the Illinois Live Steamers. Unfortunately, the club is not open to the public; however, if you're in the Chicago-land area and are interested in joining, you can visit the club's website and email their corresponding secretary for more information and setup a visit. Just google search the club's name and their site should come right up.

@jm0lesky 9 жыл бұрын

How long does it take to fire your locomotive from start to finish?

@ExploreLiveSteam 9 жыл бұрын

I usually fire up a pacific in the same Inch and a Half scale and the engine is ready to go out in about 30-40 minutes. I would guess that with a smaller boiler probably towards a high end 30 minutes.

@Ericland_Entertainment_Inc 8 жыл бұрын

Thanks Steam Channel for posting this video, I want to BUILD my own steam locomotive from SCRATCH!!! I hope I can get it done soon, do you think I can do it?

@blahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh35 10 жыл бұрын

wow i love it =]

@Engineer5344 11 жыл бұрын

I would love to do a video exactly like this with the Hudson. just gotta find the fricken time

@dollywoodrailfan1051 7 жыл бұрын

What are the flue sizes

@SanjayKumarWighmal 2 жыл бұрын

Half inches

@Railfanable 9 жыл бұрын

Where was this video filmed?

@IllinoisTrains1 9 жыл бұрын

Illinois Live Steamers

@IllinoisTrains1 11 жыл бұрын

The oil I used on the valve gear in the video is a mixture of 90wt oil and STP mixed about 50/50.

@SouthernRailPhotography 8 жыл бұрын

how much dose one of this loco cost

@crookedriver2079 8 жыл бұрын

+EngineerTrain Gmod Might run anywhere from $6000 or so if you build it yourself (youhave to make nearly every single part) to 25,000+ if you buy it already built (used).

@dollywoodrailfan1051 7 жыл бұрын

What is the boiler diameter

@SanjayKumarWighmal Жыл бұрын

219mm od ,standard seamless pipe with 5mm thicness

@huntersmith8586 8 жыл бұрын

If you were to build the locomotive to run on Propane would it be as annoying to clean?

@TheSteamChannel 8 жыл бұрын

It would be less intensive. Propane is much cleaner so you wouldn't have the ash and soot.

@huntersmith8586 8 жыл бұрын

The Steam Channel Okay, i'll keep that in mind

@koroshbaradaran 11 жыл бұрын

Why would one not want to do that? Please elaborate. I don't know much about live steam, that's why I am asking. Thanks!

@SteamTech_4468 10 жыл бұрын

why does the loco only have one gauge glass?

@IllinoisTrains1 10 жыл бұрын

The vast majority of live steam locomotives only have one water glass as that is all that is necessary. The only reason full size locomotives have more than one is to 1. make sure that all of the cab crew can see the water level easier and 2. to have a backup in case one fails during the trip. With live steam locomotives their is only one operator so as long as that person can see the water glass there isn't any problems. The safety part isn't really an issue in this scale as there aren't boiler regulations in the majority of places where one can run. Also many cabs are cramped as it is and can't fit a second glass.

@robc1169 7 жыл бұрын

Who built this engine?

@nathanpotts4976 7 жыл бұрын

Allen models

@nswgrenthusiast3777 7 жыл бұрын

I have own a 3809 at the Illawarra live steamers in wonlengong it's a very good locomotive

@matthewcain2192 10 жыл бұрын

how do i get a train like that do you buy it? or build your own?

@RotaryTurbo 9 жыл бұрын

Either way, actually. Just be ready to pay fairly big money to buy one someone has assembled and be sure you know how much machine work goes into building one if you go that route.

@matthewcain2192 9 жыл бұрын

thank you

@matthewcain2192 9 жыл бұрын

youve helped me alot :3

@ExploreLiveSteam 9 жыл бұрын

If you were looking to buy an engine in very good quality of this size. It could easily be hovering around $12,000-$14,000. They are much cheaper to make but take a lot of time and are very labor intensive. Plus only few people have the ability and skill set to create such engine I described

@matthewcain2192 9 жыл бұрын

its a really good train im looking to make a E2 tank engine soon

@carburetedseltzer120 10 жыл бұрын

would this work on a real locomotive?

@IllinoisTrains1 10 жыл бұрын

The basics would be the same. However there is more to do on a full size locomotive.

@logantheodorou764 8 жыл бұрын

well why do you have a visitor badge

@lizshomesteadandmore3883 5 жыл бұрын

Please redo your last video I was really hoping to watch it but it’s unavailable

@TheSteamChannel 5 жыл бұрын

It was made public in error, that video will be posted later this year.

@lizshomesteadandmore3883 5 жыл бұрын

The Steam Channel Ok. It would be great to have a narrow gage steam train

@doginstine 11 жыл бұрын

Think of doing this to a full size steam loco.

@YeshuaLives 11 жыл бұрын

its sure not a 'chick mag' but its a hell'a'fun!

@jacobowen5468 9 жыл бұрын

When will you post how to shut down a locomotive?

@TheSteamChannel 9 жыл бұрын

We plan on filming that video early this summer in either May or June.

@HoneyGoatStudios 10 жыл бұрын

something that shouldn't have to be said but please level out the volume of the video. As an audio engineer it was hard to hear for the most part and at the end it nearly blew a fuse.

@needlove1982 11 жыл бұрын

In addition if you don't keep the flues clean, the boiler will eventually fail. A failed boiler is a very expensive proposition.

@johncharlesworth7579 10 жыл бұрын

great video but sound could be better

@gunsaway1 9 жыл бұрын

No volume

@caelanreeves9760 9 жыл бұрын

How much money does the locomotive cost?

@TheSteamChannel 9 жыл бұрын

U.P. railfan A brand new locomotive would probably be in the neighborhood of $15-25k and I'd say more toward the latter. You may be able to pick up a used Mogul for $12-15k

@crookedriver2079 9 жыл бұрын

Costs so much that it makes more sense to build one instead of buying one. I'm building one for that reason. Just my 2 cents

@lilguiri 8 жыл бұрын

+The Steam Channel where could you buy it? (online store)

@crookedriver2079 8 жыл бұрын

+davidgabriel211 You can't buy it at an online store----even if you could it would probably run $30,000+ ( that's right: 30,000+). Look at Accucraft prices for a complete ready-to-run steam locomotive that is very small: AC77-217 SHAY - 28T CLASS, OIL BURNING BUNKER, LIVE STEAM (for example) only about a 1/3 the size of the ones you see in this video.

@lilguiri 8 жыл бұрын

+John ______ ohh ok thanks man.

@how_to_hallagon1 10 жыл бұрын

Alot of the ole boys here on the west coast use propane to heat their boilers. Not as dirty as coal and easier to find.

@IllinoisTrains1 10 жыл бұрын

Not as fun either.

@gustaf3 10 жыл бұрын

Ditto. If you want clean & easy you might as well run it on batteries. This is the first time I've seen how a live steam locomotive "model" works. I'm utterly amazed the engine is 100% no bullshit real - down to the coal fired boiler!

@how_to_hallagon1 10 жыл бұрын

Batterys are not a bad idea actually. Tell me ole chum did he explain to you the importance of water and what happens when it settles below the top of the crown sheet.

@crookedriver2079 9 жыл бұрын

Not to mention you have to carry the unsightly propane bottle around the track all the time. If you want a little cleaner then go oil fired - it's prototypical in many cases. Secondly a battery operated Live Steam locomotive would be looked down on as cheesy and fake by any real Live Steamer worth his salt. You couldn't give me a battery operated Live Steam loco for free, let alone would I buy one!

@harryk.6358 11 жыл бұрын

Next time, use a flashlight so we can see into the boiler

@TheSteamChannel 11 жыл бұрын

Name calling is uncalled for, keep your comments civil on my videos. The torch was through the grate for a few seconds and he had the fire lit. Everyone has their own way of doing things.

@IllinoisTrains1 11 жыл бұрын

The best way to start a fire is from the bottom.

@Walk.01 7 жыл бұрын

Theses things are like $40K!!

@sir3x 6 жыл бұрын

I know how to use cnc mills and lathes and can weld. Next project.... hmmm

@nascar7522 11 жыл бұрын

Hey you forgote a steap cleaning the engine and tender lol

@jma7930 11 жыл бұрын

can you do a driving lesson

@GrumpSkull 11 жыл бұрын

I guess your HO ones would melt.

@GrumpSkull 11 жыл бұрын

I thought it was a boiler explosion!

@logantheodorou764 8 жыл бұрын

*have*

@TheSteamChannel 8 жыл бұрын

Visitor badges are for the friends and family of members.

@georgebecker7650 11 жыл бұрын

Go to discover live steam dot com for info on clubs.

@needlove1982 11 жыл бұрын

I wish I had the funds to get into this, GOD I HATE BEING POOR.

@NHCX 10 жыл бұрын

I maybe get a 4-8-4 for 50,000

@TheSteamChannel 11 жыл бұрын

There are a lot of chicks in the hobby, mostly through their fathers or boyfriends.

@Cnw8701 10 ай бұрын

Nah, I'd rather just stick to diesel. 😂

@bavarianbanshee 11 жыл бұрын

Ignore him. People do that just for the sake of doing it.

@1joshjosh1 10 жыл бұрын

This video was cool but it needs more chicks and explosions.

@qcbeast478 6 жыл бұрын

1joshjosh1 it's not Hollywood or a movie it's a tutorial video Dumass

@michaelharris132 10 жыл бұрын

bad mic

@clydo1946 8 жыл бұрын

Ask Mr Trump, You're fired!

@IlluminatedWhiteGuy 11 жыл бұрын

From what I've seen so far this is not a huge chick magnet hobby...lol

@bail60163 10 жыл бұрын

#fireupnumber1lul

@thesteamingchannel496 8 жыл бұрын

Please post more about driving people around