How to fit a new seal into an early TEA20 tractor water pump

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7 жыл бұрын

This is a how to video on replacing a water pump seal on a very early 1948 TEA20 water pump. I go step by step so you can follow along.
Some TED20, TEF20 etc may be the same with the early pump.

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@user-fg9eg7du6u 5 ай бұрын

Great job Lance another interesting video thanks please don't forget a video on your home workshop made Ferguson tools thanks again

@BundyBearsShed 5 ай бұрын

Will do

@Drottninggatan2017 7 жыл бұрын

I can mention that the little part you identified as a piece of the water-pump seal, is in fact a seal-ring that sits there on the shaft, just by the drainage slit. I'm talking about the half round thing you had laying on the bench. It had broken in two. Originally it is a ring, with a flat inside and a pointed outside. To throw off any water travelling down the shaft. I've done this job a couple of times on my Fe 35 from 1957. It has the very same waterpump. The circlip inside there is a mystery every time. It does not show on the image in the MF 35 service manual. You can't get to it on dismantling, so I suppose you just have to force it through. But the manual is doing it the other way. They remove the impeller from the shaft, and take things out that way. Personally I believe it is best to leave the impeller on the shaft, and do it the way you did. If you like to you can have a look in the slot to check if the circlip is still in the groove or if it was pushed too far. By the way, the manual do have a distance piece between the front hub and the bearing. And I do believe I have on mine as well. So it should be there.

@BundyBearsShed 7 жыл бұрын

G Day Slorrifjart321, I did some looking at old parts books etc today and the water slinger in them seems like a bellows. I have a gold 35 petrol and the old pump doesnt have it so it may have been lost . The circlip is still in place on this one and the spacer isnt on any of the three here but I think I will make one. On the more modern pumps the impeller is always pulled off to get at the seal especially with the modern type bearing where the seal in located in the housing not the impeller. They updated the pumps 3 times just in the TE20 tractors and I suppose continued to do so in the 35. I checked out the new pumps at work today and none have the front spacer but if they have the modern type bearing I could possibly see why. I find this all interesting as there are a few different options on the one machine. Mine has a stainless steel shaft to and Im not sure it would have been standard either. Thanks for watching and commenting.

@tumelomaketekete2771 4 ай бұрын

Thanks very much for your time, I'm actually about to do this on my tractor

@BundyBearsShed 4 ай бұрын

Glad I could help

@iancraig1951 7 жыл бұрын

There is no doubt that having some machining equipment around the place enables the quality of the fixes and restoration to increase a lot..Good stuff Lance--keep them rolling..E

@BundyBearsShed 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ian, Yes having a bit of gear does help a LOT. We rarely do up these pumps any more they are that cheap but it is good to do the exercise.

@springwoodcottage4248 5 жыл бұрын

Super helpful as I am about to work on my TEF20 water pump which has some play and is a bit noisy. The detail and comments in this video are extraordinarily helpful for me. Thank you!

@BundyBearsShed 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Glad you got something useful

@MalcOfLincoln 7 жыл бұрын

G Day Lance - another top job. I've saved this until tonight to watch because.....tomorrow is the big road trip. Lovely weather, need a sun hat lol....hope the old girl behaves :)

@BundyBearsShed 7 жыл бұрын

She will be ok, you probably would have found any problems by now I would think.

@MalcOfLincoln 7 жыл бұрын

Should be ok. Lift pump has stripped thread in the top bolt. I've put in a longer bolt, caught about 4 threads with a few fibre washers. It's a bit spongy but should be ok.....other than that pretty confident. Malc has a pump body for me but didn't want to change it just in case of issues. Do it when I get back. Day ploughing all went ok and running for a few hours, plus my short trip earlier in the week.

@BundyBearsShed 7 жыл бұрын

You can helicoil them if need be

@davidbabey5195 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you Lance I have watched several of your videos on the Ferguson T20. And now I am feeling much more confident at tackling my own TEF20.I am finding your tuition clear and easy to understand.Keep up the good work. David 👍

@BundyBearsShed 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks David, good to hear, it is very satisfying doing it yourself.

@fotodille 3 жыл бұрын

Lovely! This will save my day, I hope. Just got my leaking water pump off of the tractor (TEA20 -54) yesterday and could not figure out where to put the new seal, but now I do. It's the same pump but the old seal is not the same, but the new one is. Thanks a million! And by the way I actually use the tractor every week (at least) for the whole summer - I've got an orgiginal Horndraulic front bucket and a modern, slightly over sized chineze back hoe (LW-7). This is good life :)

@BundyBearsShed 3 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped!

@transliv03 7 жыл бұрын

As usual, an excellent tutorial. Thanks Lance, keep them coming

@BundyBearsShed 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Tony, Thanks for watching and commenting.

@Rolf2014 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Lancs, I watched your video again "DE How to fit a new seal into an early TEA20 tractor water pump "I think it will help me again. Would like to restore an old pump. Very good video from start to finish. Topp

@BundyBearsShed 2 жыл бұрын

I should do a new video one day as the later pumps are a bit different.

@Rolf2014 2 жыл бұрын

@@BundyBearsShed Correct, I have one pump with a large port to the bearings and two pumps with a small port to the bearings. Your pump has a small opening to the bearings. Problem, I can't see exactly which spare parts I should take for the restoration and who is the dealer. Nevertheless, your videos help exelent. But you are also very well equipped in your workshop. Now Australia, everything is a little bigger. Think the hedgehogs are also bigger with you, about 1m :-)))

@AmateurRedneckWorkshop 7 жыл бұрын

Good job there Lance. Good information if I had a tractor.

@BundyBearsShed 7 жыл бұрын

G Day Harrold, Well you are going to have to get one or all of this good information will go to waste. A nice little Ferguson or a John Deere would look good in your back yard.

@DuncanMargetts 7 жыл бұрын

Good video thanks.. I love these ones, simple bit of kit, but a wealth of knowledge to be learnt anyway!

@BundyBearsShed 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Duncan, We are getting organised to do a run of them just getting parts and good bits to work on so hang tight we hopefully get them done sooner rather than later.

@motorv8N 4 жыл бұрын

Great vid Bundy Bear. Even tho some of my TEA bits are still running ok it's very helpful to learn about the innards for when that day comes to trouble shoot.

@BundyBearsShed 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks,

@Deebo1812 7 жыл бұрын

Awesome info, Lance!

@BundyBearsShed 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Deebo, hope you got something from it.

@peterwalker7869 6 жыл бұрын

G'Day Lance. New intro and end card, complete with credits. Nice work.

@BundyBearsShed 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Peter.

@kennethmctavish248 5 жыл бұрын

New to lathe work never thought to glue your piece to turn nice tip thank you

@BundyBearsShed 5 жыл бұрын

G Day Kenneth, It works fine, just go steady and you wont haave any problems.

@RustyGlovebox 7 жыл бұрын

Nice work rebuilding the pump

@BundyBearsShed 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Lloyd, Good bit of fun the repair ones but boy do they take a long time when you are filming it. Thanks for watching and commenting.

@JACKATTACKED 7 жыл бұрын

Shared this on a couple of Fergy Facebook pages Lance.

@BundyBearsShed 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks sounds like it could be interesting.

@ridersinthescrub9405 6 жыл бұрын

Nice Vid Lance, i just replaced a water pump and i want to reco the original for fun...tip for you 2 mins of lathe work isnt worth having in the vid..start and finish is fine :)

@BundyBearsShed 6 жыл бұрын

Yeah the machinists like the machining but the tractor blokes just want to see the job done.

@ridersinthescrub9405 6 жыл бұрын

love it :)

@christopizza 6 жыл бұрын

I believe that's almost the same pump that's on my tR2, 3 and TR4. Engine is wet liner and based (I hear) on the Ferguson TRactor motor. The TR pump has a woodruff key on the shaft vs flat for the cotter.

@BundyBearsShed 6 жыл бұрын

G Day Chris, Yes I believe they are very similar.

@claesmansson9070 10 ай бұрын

Yes, sealed for life, question is how long life, no answer to that.

@BundyBearsShed 10 ай бұрын

@jamesyeo2947 7 жыл бұрын

I have just subscribed to your channel, great video as always but that pump won't fit a TE20 with the Z120 continental engine as its a different type and shorter but its a very useful video as I've just replaced my water pump in my z120. can't wait to see the TEA20 series.

@BundyBearsShed 7 жыл бұрын

FergusonTED20 you are correct, only the standard engines for this one. I hear the continental ones are about but we don't seem to have many, if any here in Australia

@pm270100 7 жыл бұрын

good work well done got a 48 TEA and TEF /////and a red gold belly so look out i may show up one day lol

@BundyBearsShed 7 жыл бұрын

G Day Bill, i have a belly 35 petrol as well as the John Deere, always on for a chat.

@pm270100 7 жыл бұрын

send some pictures if poss i like to see

@BundyBearsShed 7 жыл бұрын

Check out our Queensland Tractor Spares facebook page there is a few pics there.

@pm270100 7 жыл бұрын

i had a look

@countryboycharlie9793 7 жыл бұрын

Hello lance, I have te20 I need the rod and the parts from shifter to the starter switch, I have the stater switch do u have one or do u know where I can get one... great videos lot of help thanks to you sir👍🙏🔧🔧

@colinsmith2820 2 жыл бұрын

As always Lance no fudging issues with your videos, which is good. Having watched your video on water seal replacement, am doing the same on 1950 TED20. The Sparex 40075 seal which I've bought looks similar but does not have the inner cylindrical rubber seal with shoulder both ends which you removed nor the ceramic washer. The mating surface is a steel pressing (approx 22Gauge) which does not look serviceable to me. Please advise. Colin from Bishops Stortford, England.

@BundyBearsShed 2 жыл бұрын

Hard to say Colin, since the video I have come across many different set ups from possibly aftermarket pumps. Im not sure there is a one fits all here.

@ShainAndrews 7 жыл бұрын

I know tacky. That grease is certainly that. See youre playing aournd with your intro and outro. Getting all fancy pants on us. LOL

@BundyBearsShed 7 жыл бұрын

G Day Shain, Hard to find a fancier bloke than me lol, The new program has lots of bells and whistles and I only know how to play a couple so a lot of learning going on at my end, good fun though.

@richsmith3300 10 ай бұрын

Shibaura 4040 water pump $500 in NZ.

@BundyBearsShed 10 ай бұрын

Wow.

@richsmith3300 10 ай бұрын

Do i disasemble from the bck or front?

@michaelguckian5373 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much.

@BundyBearsShed 2 жыл бұрын

Thankyou, Merry Christmas

@JACKATTACKED 7 жыл бұрын

Need to get around to doing the '56 TEF20's at somepoint

@BundyBearsShed 7 жыл бұрын

Well I suppose I could rip out and buy one, most I have seen in our area are heaps of crap. I will be doing steering box etc which are the same. This water pump is the same as the TEF as well but I am looking for a more modern TE20 pump to do a video on as there are 3 different types so I may as well work through them. I also have the PTO seal and bearing etc on the way. I am open to suggestions though. Thanks for watching and commenting.

@JACKATTACKED 7 жыл бұрын

I've got a few things to do, just can't decide whether to go full blown, or just the necessities. Pto seal, water pump, injectors. Probably renew core plugs as a couple popped slightly, head and block, but tapped back in and have sealed so far.

@Robbi750 2 жыл бұрын

Hi fron France Bundybear! One question, if you have the circlip, how do you press out the axle? Because of course it is preventing the axle to get out and you can't access the circlip with the bearings in the way.... Nice videos I am learning so much! Thank you!

@BundyBearsShed 2 жыл бұрын

Usually the shaft will push out the centre and take the outer bearing with it but Im finding a few different pumps and set ups on these all of a sudden.

@brucewalsh6113 7 жыл бұрын

Good-ay Mr Bear great information thank you... I am about to repair a water pump on my Triumph Spitfire car. The motor is based on the 50's Standard engine. The original wp has the same carbon seal as your Furgy and the new replacement I have been supplied with is the same as you have demonstrated fitting. I had been scratching my head a bit so thanks for the vid I am now confident that it will fit up ok. Just one question...... did I miss something or did you? You removed the inner rubber shaft seal early in the vid, is that it after assembly, still sitting on the bench next to the calipers at 47 min. ? I enjoy your wit and approach to educating your viewers. Cheers from Tassie

@BundyBearsShed 7 жыл бұрын

G day Bruce, No the bit on the bench was a bit of broken slinger that was fitted originally but I can no longer buy and I dont think is really necessary. There are many bolt on pumps available out there here is one on our web store. www.queenslandtractorspares.com.au/Store/tabid/91/ProdID/3648/Default.aspx I cant even seem to buy a complete kit now a days A point of interest is that Allan Bare from Bareco has a Triumph sports car and a lot of the tractor engine parts fit straight in and for the vintage racing with his car he developed the electronic distributor for them. I run one of his distributors on my grey and gold tractor and it has been great.

@brucewalsh6113 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the information. I do have a couple of new replacement pumps if needed but like you I would prefer to use the original one if salvageable. Besides the new pumps are heavy and not as nicely cast. I will keep you and Allan in mind in case I strike other items with similarity. Cheers.

@mounted9ames 4 жыл бұрын

Heii lance. I watched many of your great videos !! What is the size of the bearings in the water pump? :) cant seem to find someone that has those where I live.

@BundyBearsShed 4 жыл бұрын

I think a 6204 but Im not sure now as I just fit the Sparex pump with the later seal now a days.