In India, we have started mid day meals which works as an incentive for primary and secondary school students to not drop out. Also, many provinces provide free cycles and school uniforms to girls to come to school. Central government has made RTE a law and every private school across India has to keep certain percentage of the seats in each grade for students from weaker sections of the society.

My mother served as teacher in Punjab govt sector all her life. And let me tell you the one of the core problems of our education system is the lack of passion in our teachers. My mother worked so hard and often went out of the way to inspire girls to continue education and not drop out. She personally gave incentives to her students. Asked us( we were schooled in the best of the best schools) to give her ideas on how to teach her students in a better way. She had the opportunity of establishing a new girls school in a very run down area and there were numerous challenges and she tirelessly worked to promote enrollment and created funds to provide sweaters, bags and amenities to children. What I'm trying to say is if our teachers are poor, the quality difference between the public and private sector will grow by light years.

As a PhD in Architectural Education from UK, I absolutely loved this podcast, so many thoughts and ideas I resonate with, so many inspirations for me to explore further. Thank you for this.

Your show introduced me to so many new people I didn't know before. You really go all out to share different sides of our society. Can't wait to listen during my long commute - I'm sure I'll learn a ton!

I was researching Pakistan's education system for about 15 days and trying to find the point on how we can improve the system. This video is very helpful for me. may Allah Make our system successful.

One of the best podcasts of all time, all the right questions were asked and Dr. Faisal Bari is a fountain of knowledge, truly enlightening.

I heard this podcast thrice and on the third time ended up taking important notes. Outstanding!

Important conversation--Knowledge, experience, wisdom and fact based. Thank you Faisal Bari. Thank you Shehzad.

Wonderful conversation. Definitely one of those I'll be listening again.

Some new realities are unrevealed in this podcast, love the way FB explained these realities and also told the ways to solve these issues

Dr. Faisal shb is exactly telling the ground realities. One of my family members is serving as AEO in Tribal Area, Dr. Shb Mentioned the role AEOs so he knows things better. Mera chota bhai and bhanja khel thy the m ny unko bulaya kh suno ye bnda kh rha hy Nashta kr k jao school wrna kia phro gy, khty hn hm kr k jaty han m ny kia khaty ho, they replied 2 cup Chye and ak ak Rus cake ye hy nashta culture hy in lower middle class. Once our AT (Arabic teacher) said hmry han log Bhook sy chye peety han

What an excellent initiative and so comprehensive a conversation with great coherence Thank you

Very humble and thorough personality Dr.Bari. it's really a very informative podcast. 2 hours with him is very less time.

Another best podcast so far i wish our state must takes his services like Dr umer saif❤ we need such people who have immense knowledge on education crisis

Didn't know who Dr. Faisal Bari was before but it has become one my fav podcasts.

Again, me working on my code and this podcast in the background! What a treat 😀

Excellent podcast as always! Hurt but hopeful that Pakistan will see better days! Ameen. Keep up TPE for always keeping Pakistan first !

The episode I have been waiting for! Thank you Shehzad for bringing Dr. Faisal Bari to TPE!

I've been waiting for you to cover education from a macroeconomic perspective in Pakistan. Thanks! Looking forward to listening to it

It became one of my favourite podcasts. Sir Faisal Bari is my columnist, and I love reading his articles. Thank you Sir bringing a gem like Faisal Bari. He is blessed with enormous knowledge and skills,especially in educational fields ❤.

Lovely to see professsor bari. I did a field trip with him and took a course as well and the depth of the person and the humbleness is legendary. I would wonder though - we are also educating individuals in a variety of schools, colleges and universities and leaking them from the country in the form of brain drain. Would an emphasis on education curb that flow or we have to create other incentives for that to happen

Pakistan must proud on itself for giving 2 Best Universities IIT- International institute of Terrorism IIM- International institute of Madrassa chap Mullas Great work Pakistanis !!

Eye-opening podcast! It was my first time listening to Dr. Faisal, but it's abundantly evident he's studied and thought about our education-crisis deeply and has immense wisdom and knowledge. Is there any way us, the privileged, can do our part and help out?

It’s surprising that Dr. Faisal Bari just didn’t get it at 1:56 when shehzad intuitively said “Sur ye to meri zindagi ka masla hai”..! It was an epic punch line which was right on time but seems except Shehzad no one in comments could get it ..!!?

The entire education system of the subcontinent needs a fixing today...We r still so focussed on rote learning that the students do not even develop a mind that can think critically and question everything...

Truly insightful discussion by a great education expert Prof Faisal Bari.

I just love this gentleman.....he talks so sense.......!!

Keep it up pakistan ......kya bariya education system hain.

One big advantage of shifting from textbooks based assesments to curriculum based is tha our students wont be relying on ratta you can see fbise implemented SLOs based examinations successfully so why not all the other provinces.

Good education is power of world. And change your life. ❤❤❤❤❤

Education Liberates U. 👍

It’s surprising that Dr. Faisal Bari just didn’t get it at 1:56 when shehzad intuitively said “Sur ye to meri zindagi ka masla hai”..! It was an epic punch line which was right on time but seems except Shehzad no one in comments could get it ..!!? Sorry Shehzad.. some people just don’t get you and you the way you got on with it after blank from Dr. Faisal shows how adjusting you are.

Wow....Quality has improved...With great writer and educationist.

Discovery channel made me fall in love with science.

I discovered my dad's grandpa's school documents from British era 1800's 😊 they were infact given Certificate of passing in school final. Hygiene was one of the subjects too at that time. He did his schooling from his village in Southern India.😊 I am really surprised and shocked sitting in 2023 u guys r discussing Education at a bare basic level!? What were u guys doing during Pre-independence Pak geography of current time!??? My Grandma was a qualified Chartered accountant went on to learn software programming in her 50's😊. BW - Every generation of my family one or the other became teachers- school , college , University. To this day it continues. We r so happy luckily that we r still seen with Respect , honour by our alumni across the world.

Indian here. From karnataka, state language is kannada but govt has opened urdu medium school with kannada as a subject. I feel so grateful to be born here

As an educationist in the health sector a lot of these are common sense issues and solutions. But nothing changes much over the decades because 'jinko parwa ha, unko ikhtyar nahin; aur jinko ikhtyar ha unko parwa nahin"

Really loving your podcasts. For me , i love listening to smart people who have passion of upliftment of country. Hope your podcast has positive effect on pakistan in long term

“Only education, self-respect, and rational qualities will uplift the down-trodden.” - Periyar E. V. Ramasamy

The guy is philosopher and has such a calm rational tone. Nice.

Do invite *_BILAL GHAURI_* he a columnist from jang paper. He likes you in politics who supports principal instead of parties or people. He also has a KZfaq channel name TARAZZO in which he makes series on all 3 institution of Pakistan and their roll in history from 47-22 with unbiased opinion and fact's from different sources. Please do make a podcast with him on Pakistan future it's going to be success. ((its not spam just a fan of his work))

Very enlightening discussion, Shehzad. One suggestion please invite Junaid Akram bhai to your podcast and one with Dhruv Rathee bhai . Love and Respect from India 🇮🇳

The results of your trip to Lahore are great. I hope you go to California in the near future,

The most realistic podcast on education.

Want more podcast with Dr bari. I just want an unending podcast ❤. Happy to hear such an intellectual

Regarding transport system, the thing is Lahore city wasnt planned in an organized manner. The traffic situation is bad here. Public transport i.e. busses can't function here now. If Govt. initiate them somehow it means more traffic jams considering narrow roads.

We must be increase madresa education in the world ❤❤

I really like your podcast the reason is the guests you invite and you let them share their ideas , we need these ideas to go into the public in order for us especially me to develop an understanding about a particular topic or even think critically.

Salam, good talk. I hope all the recommendations of Dr Bari Sb are implemented soon.

Madrasa Education is the best in the World.

The level of importance being given to education in Pakistan is proved by the fact that we do have a caretaker minister for Culture but not for Education!!

Insightful and thought provoking discussion

Dr. Bari is a proper legend

Shezad, you're amazing. Lots of love and dua's. Keep safe, and keep doing what you do!

Firstly, i would congratulate you on utilising this platform on highlighting the very basic issue of our country and bringing so much knowledge to us. Thankyou for that. Secondly, being a lawyer, who graduated from an external programme degree (University of London), wants to pursue his career but degree itself is not enough for graduates like me to start from scratch, we need at-least 2 more years to understand the very basic of Pakistani Law. Please do have an experienced lawyer to critically evaluate the whole problem and provide solution to this. Thankyou.

I think Pakistan should entirely focus on madrasa education. As an islamic country, children should learn the moral and values of prophet and his companions. Until and unless Pakistan follow islamic study there is no way of betterment.

Thank you so Much Shehzad Bhai.......!!

This was really educating podcast. Gave me a bigger perspective on society and education system. Please invite more people like him instead of IK bashers.

Awesome set and insightful debate

I urges you to invite professor joga singh virk of punjabi univercity patiala , who have deep knowledge on this topic ,several state govts in india take his advice regarding education and linguistic issues.

A Humble Request! Please invite Dr Ashu Lal Faqeer ❣️

I noticed in pak experts opinions either they suggest impossible things or not reasonable ideas. Everyone ,try to show other nation policies, rather than understanding their own strength .

The biggest problem in Pakistan is that most people aren't getting an education that can develop critical, rational, and scientific thinking. Bad education eventually leads to a high crime rate, and human rights violations.

Who is responsible for the curriculum? Without doubt, the most important person in the curriculum implementation process is the teacher. With their knowledge, experiences and competencies, teachers are central to any curriculum development effort.

Why fight war when one can surrender !! ~ The greatest army in the world whose 93,000 Very brave soldiers surrender to Indian armed forces (93,000 wow )

An interesting and thought Provoking discussion. However, discussion on the role of non-profits, their limitations and plus-points could also have given some more insights into the subject. Anyways, was an excellent discussion!

Most informative and relevant discussion.❤

Thanku for this wonderful podcast ❤

Right focus.

Good show, invite the guest again.

I loterally cried jab he said 19:09 ki kaam karna padta hai Ghar nahi chalta and security ke masle hai kitni aam ho gayi hai ye baat ki itna casually bol dia

"i almost think this is unique problem to Pakistan " sums it up lol

Such a valuable podcast!! 💯

Informative Do a podcast on homeschooling too

This will be interesting...my favourite topic education

It's very difficult to change education/mediawhen Army is in control.....these things form identity of person...Army don't want to loose old India/pakistan narrative..which can only be controlled by identity

EDTech is good only for older or matured people/kids. Kids need social interaction and human involvement. So its better that we stick to im person in school teaching with a little bit of hybrid model showing informative videos in class.

EdTech can be very very helpful in primary education, but not for students. It can be used extensively for teachers training and evaluation. If EdTech added with AI is implement at public sector for evaluation of teachers that is linked with incentives and promotion etc. can be very helpful.

36:50 pe inka joke bohot hi sarra hoa tha. But it hit me hard. I got my son into a cheap Kindergarten here in China as we will leave in a few months. The fees is 3000 RMB a month. And the English teacher they have hired is a Moroccan who did exactly this. G.I.R.L Gurrrll. 3000 main yehi level milay ga.

Madarsa education is good for.islam we love Islamic education and western and It education is Haram for the Islamic world we all should go to madrasa

Abdul wahab Suri ko ap janty han ya ni I don't know but I think he is one of the best lecturer and wonderful human being I hope you reach him

Exteremly exellent guest.

Muhammad Ali Jinnah must be very proud for selecting flag of Pakistan 🇵🇰 COIN IS FALLING FROM SKY IN KATORA Moreover, Islam legitimizes Begging because one gotta open their hands while doing so

Im generally a very positive guy, but quality education to everyone in Pak is an absolute dead-on-arrival topic. Futile effort, my brother. Futile effort…

Shehzad , when i listen to your podcasts there is so much of opportunity with pakistan and its people. The only problem is that the politicians and military is just stopping the progress of pakistan. Basically people who are rising into the power are totally opposite idealogy of the people you are interviewing. Maybe consider interviewing the people that no one wants to interview or come with extreme views so that they can see the mirror

Believe it or not religion plays a huge role in education in South Asia...if you see the literacy rate of Bengali Hindus and Bengali Muslim in 1980,1990,2010 you will see a huge difference even in 2023 the gap is more than 15% and You can look at The Punjabi communities you will see the same difference...you can't change the religion but mindset can be changed 🤞

Not only fix it but increase investment exponentially as national strategic framework of massive investment in human capital.There is no other option that will add value.

Keep up the good work shezad bro, once again I'm saying please invite sir tariq ali again😂❤.

Great work yaar... absolutely unexpected. P.s: I am a regular viewer and I really have to say this set up is very good than the old green one..I wonder if u could get this over Karachi podcasts too😅

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Richard Feynman* Keep up the good work!!

Amazing podcast but you skipped Homeschooling, pls do a separate podcast in homeschooling phenomenon.

Don't go to madarsa, go to school for real knowledge, madarsa only for fictional knowledge 😂😂😂😂

Great Discussion

Good Stuff Man!

Instead of looking at Bangladesh or Sri Lanka why not look at northern area of Pakistan where not a single person was educated in 1970. Today they are 100% educated. Ask Ismaili (Aga Khani) how they did it. AKDN is the world largest Philanthropic organization in the world with Three university and more than three hundred school all over the world. Call AKDN representative ask him how the hell they achieved such a success in Pakistan. Purpose of yellow buses in USA is not education they are not there to bring student to school for education. Yellow Buses in America are there so Black student can be taken to White majority school or vice versa so segregation can be avoided.

Please share the portion on vouchers as a part of the clips. I think too many of these suggestions are part of a top down approach from pollicy makers with a very limited perspective. Miftah Ismail's suggestion seems to be a bit vague and based on anecdotal evidence.

Your jokes in between are underrated 😂

We in India too have to go through the local language issue. We have more languages in this country than in Pakistan.The educationists came up with a three language formula where in the student learns English, their local language and a third language of any other state/Sanskrit/or a foreign language. One should remember that language is only a medium through which the child learns other important subjects like Math, Science and Social studies. I personally feel one only one language should be mandatory (English) and a second language could be taught which could be the child's mother tongue. Instead of using their valuable time to acquire the knowledge of a third language they could learn other important subjects.

First step Pakistani elite read Nation Education Policy 2021& it's implementation plan. Reality of Pakistan is 30,000 Madrasa produce 30 Lakh Jehadi mindset every year