I have the same issue with my AC30C2. I'm hoping it's just a blown fuse. Informative video. The back panel screws comment was funny 😂
@pda491842 жыл бұрын
Fast and furious.. Your work rate as well as that blown fuse. My thought is the fuse is only for protection on start-up from cold which can draw a few more amps, hence it's apparently high rating. What would worry me is that it's got a bit of built-in unreliability for a gigging amp. Try changing that fuse in a darkened club with 5 minuets before your band is due to start, ha-ha. I always learn something from your videos Stuart.. Great work.
@stuartukguitarampguy58302 жыл бұрын
Thanks Pete!
@danielsaturnino57152 жыл бұрын
I love to see upside down valves cooking circuit boards. Lovely.
@stuartukguitarampguy58302 жыл бұрын
Yes I didn;t show it on the video but I made myself a couple of nice pieces of toast....
@johnsalaman5032 жыл бұрын
Good find. Fast...i can't remember ever testing a fuse in circuit that continuity was good and the fuse was faulty. Ive only began amp repair recently,,but was a licensed electrician for 25 yrs...great job stuart..love your straight on troubleshooting skill set....2 thumbs up.
@stuartukguitarampguy58302 жыл бұрын
Hi John. One side of the fuse had all the valve heaters in parallel, so quite a low resistance. The other returned via the 6.3V secondary heater winding. Again low resistance. Quite surpirsed it was half an ohm though, Would have expected maybe a few ohms.
@goodun29742 жыл бұрын
@@stuartukguitarampguy5830 , Having gone down this particular rabbit hole in the past and learned the hard way, I no longer test fuses in circuit. If they're hard to get to for complete removal I simply pull one end of the fuse up out of the clip with dental pick or spring-hook tool, and then put the meter on it.
@stuartukguitarampguy58302 жыл бұрын
@@goodun2974 Yes I usuall do that too but had a brain fade on this amp for some reason.
@goodun29742 жыл бұрын
The tube heaters have a positive temperature coefficient, like most metallic materials, which means that they have a very low resistance when they're cold but the resistance increases as they heat up, in other words, they are non-linear resistors. Incandescent light bulbs behave the same way, as a very low resistance, almost a dead short, when they are cold but with much higher resistance when heated up. This is why bench technicians use an incandescent light bulb in series with the power cord to amplifiers and other devices under test, because the light bulb will heat up and limit current if the device tries to draw too much juice due to a circuit fault or the tech making a mistake, slipping with the meter probes, or whatever. You should look up the definition of of a thermister: a nonlinear resistor with a negative thermal coefficient that actually has a fairly high resistance when it's cold but decreases in resistance when it is hot. They are often used to prevent inrush current from damaging devices or blowing fuses, and as they heat up they take themselves mostly out of the circuit because the resistance decreases and becomes minimal.
@montygore2 жыл бұрын
Hi again Stuart. I like the clean ok on the el84 but the over drive is glassy like a transistor. Just my thought. Great video again .
@stuartukguitarampguy58302 жыл бұрын
Hi Monty. Tes oddly enough when I tried the overdrive on this amp I didn;t like it much.
@edwardhannigan63242 жыл бұрын
That looks a bit of a beast..! Nice fault find and fix..Fab video and tech tips..Ed..UK..😁
@stuartukguitarampguy58302 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ed!
@richardk72562 жыл бұрын
Cleanly done. Good work!
@faultlessguitarsandamps11162 жыл бұрын
Hi Stuart . Those 7 valves would draw approx 4 amps in total when running . But when cold at the time of switch on , the filaments are very low resistance for a brief time . Hence the 6.3 Amp fuse will have to pass way more current which will stress it and cause it to fail every now and then . As you said , it's a time delay type , so it won't blow every time , but will fail eventually . Cheers for another nice video .
@stuartukguitarampguy58302 жыл бұрын
Thanks. It's been 3 months now since the amp went back and it seems ok, so fingers crossed it was a one off.
@faultlessguitarsandamps11162 жыл бұрын
@@stuartukguitarampguy5830 Of course the designer should have made this an owner serviceable rear panel fuse , because it's bound to blow sooner or later .
@goodun29742 жыл бұрын
The parallel tube-heater string could be viewed similarly to a "dim bulb" current limiter in line with the power cord, as seen on many technicians" benches. Like a light bulb, the filaments of the heaters have very low resistance *until you you pull some actual current and voltage through them, and then their resistance increases significantly as they heat up. Light bulbs, and vacuum tube heaters, are non-linear resistors with a positive temperature coefficient; as opposed to thermistors, which have a higher resistance when cold but decrease in resistance as they heat up (negative temperature coefficient).
@stuartukguitarampguy58302 жыл бұрын
@@faultlessguitarsandamps1116 But... but... that would have cost 20c more and made it EASY for the user. Why on earth would they want to do that...
@jernejkurincic90502 жыл бұрын
Classsic one. You have in paralell all the filaments + very low impedance secondary. You will surely get continuity that way. You never want to measure fuses in a circuit where they are directly connected to low impedance secondary (and with filaments also the tubes in sockets).
@stuartukguitarampguy58302 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Hence it was a dumb mistake.
@goodun29742 жыл бұрын
@@stuartukguitarampguy5830 , comedienne Erma Bombeck said that if she could sell all her mistakes for what they cost her she'd be a wealthy woman!
@stuartukguitarampguy58302 жыл бұрын
@@goodun2974 I like that!
@alexdeleon71352 жыл бұрын
Problem sussed as usual, Stuart. I was surprised to see the failure of the 6.3 heater fuse. Not a typical issue in my experience. I wonder how much the amp would weigh without the screws? I look forward to the next installment. Stay well, and a job well done.
@stuartukguitarampguy58302 жыл бұрын
Thanks Alex. I did this amp about 3 months ago now and it hasn;t come back, so all seems well.
@Shiloh73772 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another great video....
@stuartukguitarampguy58302 жыл бұрын
Thanks Shiloh
@Shiloh73772 жыл бұрын
@@stuartukguitarampguy5830 your very welcome sir.
@michaelevans3852 Жыл бұрын
You have to love it when it's something simple. Makes me wonder why the reverb would go weak. I have a Peavey Classic 50/50 power amp that has 115 screws as well. It also have a massive amount of tubes ( 3x12ax7, 2x12at7, 8xel84). Great amp though. I'm curious as to the difference is sound from a circuit board versus hand wired. Can you tell the difference?
@stuartukguitarampguy5830 Жыл бұрын
Hi Michael. My own view is that there is aboslutely no difference between the SOUND of a pcb amp and a hand wired, if the amp design was the same. This is, of course, impossible to test! (Even two pcb amps straight off the production line would not be identical in terms of parameters).
@rods45485 ай бұрын
Would you know the value of the MOV or the ICL surge protector of the Vox AC15C1 soldered between the A/C receptacle in the back and the on/off switch? Thank you!!
@stuartukguitarampguy58305 ай бұрын
Hi The part is SCK15105MSY I hope that helps
@rods45485 ай бұрын
Thank you so very much. Very much appreciated!@@stuartukguitarampguy5830
@papahjoshscene42342 жыл бұрын
I have a vox vt30, but now there is a problem. if I play for 30 minutes, the sound suddenly decreases and hoarse. what's the problem?? Please help me. Thank you
@goodun29742 жыл бұрын
If you loosen the two screws on each end of the amplifier, the back panel will come out more easily. Don't thank me, thank the Psionic Audio channel for that tip!
@tjsogmc2 жыл бұрын
I've had wire connectors (and fuses) in which the wire inside was broken at the terminal and was making intermittent contact, only it looked perfect on the outside and would pass a continuity test. Only under a small load would it show that it wasn't conducting. It's a very easy thing to get fooled with.
@stuartukguitarampguy58302 жыл бұрын
Nice! These things are sent to test us!
@tjsogmc2 жыл бұрын
@@stuartukguitarampguy5830 Indeed. Such a simple thing like that can send you down any number of rabbit holes and waste hours or days of time chasing ghosts.
@goodun29742 жыл бұрын
I have seen an overheated power cord become a resistor, 30 to 70 ohms !
@stuartukguitarampguy58302 жыл бұрын
@@goodun2974 Never seen that. One to look out for. I have, in the distant past, made the error of using a fan heater with a reel extension cable not fully unreeled....
@goodun29742 жыл бұрын
@@stuartukguitarampguy5830 , yup, I did that with a small heater in my garage in wintertime; plugged it into the drop-light outlet which was mostly still wound up inside the spring loaded reel. It got quite hot!
@SimpleManGuitars19732 жыл бұрын
My amp is doing this same thing and I'm in America. The difference in behavior in this video is that ally my tubes are lit up and burning. Do you think it's just a fuse with mine as well and how much does it generally cost to fix this? I'd really, REALLY, appreciate any feedback I can get. I desperately don't wanna be without my AC30!
@stuartukguitarampguy58302 жыл бұрын
Hi. It's SO difficult to try and diagnose an amp over email. Probabyl best to find a tech near you and get them to take a look.
@dsmanpr16 ай бұрын
Hi my vox pathfinder 15 lmr is going in and out as if someone is plaing with my guitar amp inout jack
@stuartukguitarampguy58306 ай бұрын
Obviously check the guitar lead is good. It may be soldering on the input jack (does waggling it cause the sound to come and go?) Also if the amp has FX send and return jacks, clean those. Otherwise.... tech time.
@dsmanpr16 ай бұрын
Ok thank you so much. I really apreciate the feedback. I opened the amplifier and there was alot of water inside from being outside . The previous owner had other outside as trash so i grabbed it.
@Andreas_Straub11 ай бұрын
No bias adjustment after replacing the power tubes?!?
@stuartukguitarampguy583011 ай бұрын
The VOX AC30 does not require biasing.
@Andreas_Straub11 ай бұрын
EVERY tube and needs correct biasing. What you probably mean is, that there is no adjustment provided for adjusting the bias of the tubes. I consider this a bad design eventually burning out the tubes faster than necessary, because they run too hot .... I would still measure the standby current and (depending on the bias type used) adjust eventually a resistor to make sure that the power tubes are biased within their specification.
@stuartukguitarampguy583011 ай бұрын
There is a well known saying "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing." Please go and look up 'cathode biasing'. @@Andreas_Straub
@Andreas_Straub11 ай бұрын
Well, ok. If this amp is one of the low power ones that use cathode biasing, it will need no adjustments, of course.@@stuartukguitarampguy5830
@stuartukguitarampguy583011 ай бұрын
Yes? That is an amp which requires biasing. The VOX AC30 does not.
@therusseljournal2 ай бұрын
What fuses do I need to get?
@stuartukguitarampguy58302 ай бұрын
Not sure. isn;t it marked?
@therusseljournal2 ай бұрын
@@stuartukguitarampguy5830 It appears I need a 6.3 Time delay
@therusseljournal2 ай бұрын
@@stuartukguitarampguy5830that still didn't fix it however
@stuartukguitarampguy58302 ай бұрын
@@therusseljournal Ok easily obtainable on eBay. T6.3A is what to put in.