I had nothing but problems...tried this and now the gun works like it should...THANK YOU

To the folks saying oil is bad. Keltec uses glass reinforced Zytel which is a nylon polymer. It is highly resistant to petroleum. Nylon resins are extremely resistant to oils and fuels. Although nylon resins absorb some of them depending on the kind of the resins, there are no observable degradation and permanent chemical change. Zytel in particular gets an A rating for oil resistance. Lube away.

Many people do not realize they need to at least oil their new gun before shooting it. I go a lot further. First I polish every moving part where it touches another part, starting with 400 grit wet/dry sandpaper and ending with 2000 (yes this is probably excessive, but it sure doesn't hurt.) All the work I do takes less than an hour. -- Magazine: polish the feed lips and the front edge. I also polished the four areas of the follower where you indicated to oil it, where it slides along the magazine body. -- Internal parts: polished the railings on both slide and frame; the top of the ejector; the hammer; the part that cocks the hammer, both the curve at the rear which hits the hammer and pushes it rearward, and the rest of it, that the hammer slides along in order to cock. Polished the feed ramp and the rear edge of the chamber, the whole circle, to improve feeding. Then I lightly oiled all the friction points that I polished, except the feed ramp/chamber. -- In the first 100 rounds, I had four feed fails on the ammo. Two with 20 rounds of old Winchester Dynamax 40gr, and two with 80 rounds of CCI Gamepoint 40gr. After that I shot about 20 rounds each or Norma 40gr and Hornady Critical Defense 45gr, no issues at all. I think it's good to go now. I repeat, all this took an hour or less, maybe 30 seconds per piece of sandpaper--400, 800, 1500 and 2000 grit. I do some version of this to every new gun I buy before ever firing it. Basically I am breaking it in before ever firing a shot. Saves on using ammo as the break-in method. I do some of this on used guns too, as needed. -- I never load my mags to maximum, always max -1, just on general principles to avoid any issues with too much spring tension.

Finally don't have to wait 40 minutes for the answer to fixing the problems. Thanks 😂❤

Love my pmr 30. I used slick 50. I shoot 36 to 50 grain. Clean after every shoot. No failures yet!

Excellent video! Fixed my problem. You are the smartest man on KZfaq. Good ole common sense solves the problem. If you run for President I will vote for you and contribute to your campaign.

Great info. !00% accurate. I took your advice and field stripped it, oiled it lightly as you stated and it ran flawlessly. I loaded one mag with CCI 40 grain, and the other with CCI 30 grain soft tips. I put 25 rounds in each mag, and both ran without ant issues. I wii do this each time before I take it out and shoot it. Thanks for the tip…and no, you are NOT crazy.

You're a Genius. I actually sent mine back to the factory for inspection. They sent me a new one and had the same problems. Until I saw this video. Maybe you should have the company put your video up on their website...lol

I was having the same issues and I came to the same conclusion. Just cleaned it this evening and oiled up all the parts that slide on each other, like you said. It’s reassuring to find your video and I look forward to it running like it should the next time I’m out on the range. Thanks for the video! Cheers!

I appreciate your video. I was having the same issue with mine not feeding. I decided to try what you said about oiling it up good. Went to range and Fired 85 rounds through it and to my surprise no issues. It actually cycled four different brands of ammo two different 30 and 40 grain bullets. This gun really needs oiling and cleaning each time its taken out. Thanks for the help. This gun became awesome and fun to shoot!!

Getting a new one tomorrow. I will give your advice a try. THANKS! for the video.

I took Semichrome metal polish and polished the metal rails on my slide. Polished the spring in my magazines. Oiled the piece in my magazines. Polished the ramp with Novus plastic polish. Basically polished all metal moving parts and mine runs awesome.

3in1oil has been around for a hundred years! My grand dad was a barber used it on all his tools! I'm 75 been using it for at least 60 years!

Thank you Brother... I will be pulling my mag apart tomorrow and doing another cleaning on my PMR 30 Keltec that I use as my CC 😁 ammo used 50 grn 1530fps federal .... it's an Ass kicker 😁😁🍻🍻🇺🇸🏆

Absolutely hysterical. Gods honest truth been simply trying to get one in the chamber for about 45 minutes (I’m not a beginner to say the least). Watched your video and wow. The gun really does feel totally different now. Feels like my heavier Walther poly with the slide - you and dad get my genius vote for 2023. The materials they use in this gun (and cars & planes) is polyamide which is an extremely chemical resistant nylon so I have no worries about degrading. Thank you 🙏 PS - I have old school oilers in 3 rooms filled with the same 3 in 1 but never thought to use it in my guns - for the simple reason I always had a “gun oil” around but no more 😂

I bought a Kel-Tec 22 magnum a few months ago and I am very pleased with it and I'm with his dad 3 and 1 oil machining oil is the best to use as gun oil the only problem I had was with loading the clip I tried to do it like a normal 9 mm but it's not like a normal pistol it's more like loading an AR-15 clip you don't go from the front push down and all the way to the back you start off in the Middle where The notches push down and then in but I do love this pistol

3&1 oil miracle oil. I remember my granddad using it on his firearms and grandma using it on her sewing machine in the late 60’s . Oh I can’t wait to get my PMR30 next week.

Had the same problems, gave the weapon a good clean, including disassembling the magazines and oiled it, worked brilliant until half way through the 3rd magazine, then the firing pin broke. Replaced the firing pin, making sure no oil under the pin or on the top of the bolt or carrier, no problems.

My tx22 came to me bone dry as well. I was using your typical wet lubes and noticed the amount of gunk that would build up was insane especially shooting suppressed….fast forward to 3in1 dry lube…totally changed the game for me. Runs longer with less cleaning and build up

I like this guyand his method for a fix of these problems for this PMR30. Everything he did seems to make sense and If you think about what he is saying, it sounds like it is too simple to be a real fix! Now I am thinking of purchasing a PMR30 and the only reason I have not purchased one, is because of the problems they show in these videos and also the bvery high price of 22Mag! I have two P17 Kel-Tec hand guns which have been Flawless in over 1000 rounds but I would also like to get a 22Mag Hand Gun and I just might try this PMR30 if I can find decent priced 22Mag Ammo!

I got mine new at a gun show and never had a jam. Ran whatever ammo was available because it was in short supply at the time. No issues. I oiled mine with Lucas or just regular gun oil from Academy. Some 1st gen pistols had the keyholing issue but I got the newer barely and just keep it clean. But sometimes you get a batch of lemons from some places with lower quality standards I suppose.

Dry spray lube works much better and won't attract and hold debris like oil will.

You can also put a bead of superglue gel across under the magazine catch lip, it will raise the magazine a tad

Yup me too. Hangs and jams. I sent it back and they supposedly did some stuff to it but when I got it back I put some of this CERAMIC CAR COATING Si02 CAR POLISH WAX PRO-GRADE WET LOOK NANO 9H PAINT SEALANT down inside my magazines and I have had no problems since. You can probably do the same like you say with 3in1 or any good light oil. I think should have staggered the rounds a little less. Too much side force on the rounds but it runs good now. Just gotta lube the crap out of it.

I have used 3 in 1 for almost 50 years. works great

Just got one today...I'll for sure do this tomorrow night before I even shoot it the first time

Plan on purchasing a PMR30. Thanks for the info. Old school 3in1 oil who knew lol

Thanks for your post and recommendation.

Good video. Simple fix. And the right fix.

First time out I couldn't get 2 shots of in a row. I lubed the gun up real good when I came home, but I also watched every fix video out there. So second time it I expected bad results, based on those videos. I pushed the mag bottom up into the gun to determine if the loose mag was the issue. With 45 grain, this worked. With 40 it also worked. So I assumed the loose mag was the issue. But I i tried shooting without pushing the mag up, and it still worked, 40 &45 grain. In fact, the gun shot every round I put in it without a failure. 200 rounds, hollow point, tapered point, high grain, low grain, no failure. Lube your gun.

Thank you, Brother. I have had the same issues.......so, I will switch to 3n1👍🏾

Smart man, well-done

Keeping them oiled is good I've had mine for Years now Just put the mcarbo upgrade kit on mine and it's even better make sure u get a nest style speed loader from American speedloader it makes loading those mags so fast but trust me get the all in one bundle from mcarbo it will make that lil pistol even crazier

Two suggestions 1. Try using Ballistol Oil ( my humble opinion is the best ). 2. Put a bead of glue on your magazines on the bottom of the ledge on the center back that locks it in the mag well. Unfortunately the magazines don’t lock securely and tend to hang too low in the grip making the top rd need to travel up the feed ramp too far. If there’s up and down play in the magazine this’ll fix it. You will probably need to file the glue bead to get a precise fit but it’s worth it!

I've been using 3in1 silicone for a while with great results. It may be more plastic friendly.

Thanks for sharing your knowledge 👍🙏

Thanks for the tips Brother. Lot's of love from the American Hillbilly and the Hillbilly Nation, Hillbilly Up brother.

You are note Crazy! Nylon PA6 and PA66 is used for the housings, this nylon is extreemly resistant to Hydroncarbons. 3 and 1 oil will not cause any damage to the gun! Only downsidew is if you fail to clean the gun after every use. GREAT VIDEO!

Thanks for the straight to the point video. I just got mine and the first mag had a failure to feed the second mag had 2 failure to feed. Then my 3rd mag somehow got 2 rounds hung up on each other and wouldn't load into the pistol. This was all with separate magazines. I will try taking the mag apart and lube it like you showed . Thanks.

I only had a problem on the first reload because it would get stuck in the first bullet but now works like a charm

I think if we didn’t have a lot of good ol’ boys, nothing would run!

My mother's gun hates armscore ammo, and dislikes two of the three cci ammo we fed it. It runs fine with the Hornady v-max stuff. Which of course is the most expensive but also the best in my opinion.

Glad i saw this video, i bought one and the videos i been seeing are not real encouraging, this apparently is a good fix based on comment if i run into the issue, i haven't taken the gun out yet. And thank you much.

My only issue with my PMR30 was with the magazine not locking into place and staying there. A bit of searching led me to learn that if you use some UV glue and build up the small protrusion on the outer side of the magazine and shape with a micro file until it securely clicks into place, make sure that the magazine doesn't have an issue with removal

You definitely got a lot of positive comments, I'll have to try it. Mine only likes cci.

I have 2 PMR30s. Put the MCarbo pro kit ($249) in both. They still choked on a few out of ea mag, but I think 100-200 rounds for break in is required no matter what. Taking the mags apart to lube/check for burs is a great idea

Yea I bought one and it needed oiled up then it shot fine I like this gun alot it's a good fun gun to shoot no problems after oil it good

Another thing that works good too, is to use car wax, or ceramic car wax on the magazine follower and body on the inside of course. Treat it like a car's paint job... apply, let dry, then buff off. Very slippery when finished. Use a small towel on the inside with the wax on it. Back and forth... back and forth, then buff., and reassemble. I wonder what this and the oil would do?

I will try this the next time out. Thanks.

I did the same thing and mine had no hangups people need to understand a gun that been on a shelf haven't been shot since it was made needs to be lubed before shooting 2019 was the models I got oiling it was the first thing I did before I shot it and it worked fine!

4 or 5 years ago the spring on the screen door on the back porch screeched very loud every time the door opened and closed...I coated the spring with Slip2000, and it's still quiet after all this time! Is why I have such a high opinion of Slip2000. But there are videos on YT of people that swear by Mobil1 as outstanding gun lube also. Just food for thought!

3in1 is a type of CLP so as long as the one you use does not have silicon in it your fine. I'm from rural MN when we go through gun safety you learn about gun care as a child. You learn if you don't oil your gun it will fail. I thought everyone knew this fact. I have a pmr30 I have never had one problem. The first thing you always do before using a new gun is look it over to see it functions well before firing it and oil it before use.

Thanks for the reminder. Moving parts need lubrication. This has resolved a lot of problems with a lot of firearms.

Thanks for the tips boss

Yup this made the gun run better

You right 100 percent I put oil to my pillow and I still have hair🎉😅

Thanks! Love mine! what holster are y'all using? I want carry mine when I'm in the woods.

Have both KelTec PMR30 and P17 both seem to like oil. Never thought to lube mags, might make 2 great fun shooters even better

I did the same with mine but used 3 in one dry lube works great. I sold my Kimber to buy my Kel Tec I am not sorry I love it.

We have had no issues either. Lubed at the beginning and used 40g Fiocchi jsp. 1910fps.

After having mine for a bit over 18 months, I have decided that this pistol isn't worth the money. Now Walther has one on the market and it surely has to be better than the PMR 30.

The rounds in my mag push the “wings” (that hold the rounds in the clip) up. I guess the polymer is not strong enough. The wings are bent up so high the carrier hits the raised wing instead of the shell so that it doesn’t pick up a shell when it cycles

Funny, but as a poor kid growing up, all we had was 3 in 1 ! Never heard of Hoppe's ! Lol ! Used it on shotguns and rifles ! Never gave it any thought, but the guns always worked without issue ! Being a kid, I just thought thats the way they were supposed to work ? Lol....! Maybe it was the Oil ? 😂🤣😂

I replaced my feed ramp and slide spring with the MCarbo stainless feed ramp and double spring kit

Wiil try this, thx!

I have the "same" regards for Slip2000 as your dad has for 3-in-1 so I'll give it a whirl. Already checked if Slip2000 will harm polymer or plastics they say NO.

My PMR 30 and CMR 30 and P17 runs great on 3in1 oil.

3-1 oil will cause build up from the .22 mag rounds. If you use that you need to clean it every time you shoot. They have gun oil and that's what I would use.3-1 might work but it's not the best thing to use.

My dad swore by 3-in-1 oil and Marvel Mystery oil also.

I don't know if it was the 3in1 oil, or just the fact that you oiled it really good. I've heard some people on a Kel Tec forum that use some type of grease. I use Hoppes but I run my pretty wet and mine runs really well. I just stick with Maxi Mags because they run so well.

100% correct

Nothing like a hillbilly engineer 😂

I bought mine in 2018 and have fought with it ever since.i finally broke a fireing pin so I called Kel Tech and asked them about the upgrade everyone is doing and they told me they have 0 issues and that after 3 years they will NOT honor warranty work but that I could send it back in to them and they would work on it(so why work on it if there are no issues) for a fee....I used a Q-Tip and spread a lil never seize all over mine,,just waiting on parts so I can put it back together.i love the gun and want to say good things about it but I cant,I have spent considerably less $$$ on firearms that have functioned flawlessly for over 10 years 😢

Weapons maintenance is an "as needed"... have you tried the graphite powders yet? They dont act like a wetting agent for gunpowder residue like oils do...

I squirt Graphite down the mags loaded with 20 rounds, about every 20 magazines. Seems to work good, mine has always run good with Hornady ammo, quit using other brands long ago. Getting oil up on the slide is a must too. The Hornady ammo does not fireball and fill your slide rails up with unburned powder like some ammo. It's a process getting a PMR that runs, so fun when you have one !

You da man Hillbilly

Unfortunately not enough. If you are running CCI maxi mag or even the hunting hollow points most of the time, it will run fairly well, especially if you reduce your mags to 25. You switch to Hornady red tip or Winchester silver box, you are going to have issues at the top of the mag. Past 15 rds they will feed pretty much anything. The plastic ramp and mag release are your chief culprits. Swap those out and get a good speed loader and she will run like a sewing machine. I run an RDS on my PMR and my CMR, cleaning all that oil off the lenses is a no go for me. Good luck doing the work if you decide to upgrade they are not fun guns to work on. Oh that buffer needs to go too.

Mine runs EVERYTHING

The PMR 30 is also particularly susceptible to “LIMP WRISTING”

Hillbilly, have you stopped using the 5secondfix on the outside of your magazines? I used it on three mags and it seemed to work very well, but the glue just peeled off in a couple of days.

The best product is the one no one needs to fix.....

I’ve read that too much oil messes up the firing pin and you won’t go past 800 rounds if too much oil exists inside the firing spring ..

Who would have thought cleaning and lubing a gun would help it function reliably. Incredible.... 🤦‍♂️🤔🤣🤔🤦‍♂️

It's the mags and no lube. Load your mags to full capacity and let them sit for awhile and they're lose tension and start Cycling fine

Well Thnx

I am on my second one I’ve done every oil every bath every polish other Smith s look at it . And nobody can get it to work it suits in my safe. Hours an hours nonsense work on that gun. I talk to Celtic .And like you said they said is the ammunition I’ve tried all of them I just got a bad batch but I cannot get it to work my cousin is a gunsmith and this gun is just fu);Ed up he couldn’t get it to work either . Anybody want to trade lol 😂 Anybody got a 22 mag pistol thanks it’s a good video 3:1 is one of the best oils for all purpose .all stick with my Remington 22 nylon 66 . On my fifth one in 40 years..👍🏻 it shoots whatever I put in it.

3 in 1 has been around for at least 100 years.

3-in-1 oil? Okay. I'm subscribing. BTW, my PMR-30 runs like a raped ape up a tree. Just G96 it.

This firearm has been around for years. WHY DOESNT KEL TEX FIX THIS ISSUE

Y is the front screw rusty if it's brand new.

What ammunition do you use ?

Gonna oil my mags that I’ve not done nor Dist it ever occurred to me 😱

Run 40 grain only. Use Lucas extreme duty grease on rails. Upgrade your magazine springs ( Keltec sells for .50 each). And load the magazines correctly. Do this, and these guns will run like raped apes. I’ve had two for over ten years. Mine run perfect

Silicone lube would be better in the mag, picks up less durt

I've ran everything threw mine even cheap junk ammo thats half price of cci never once a jam or nothing guess I got lucky

Remington oil

Hope the young man lived 😢

That didn't work either. I put new feed ramps and mag releases I'm my pmr and cmr. Neither of them ever ran well. I gave up and sold them both.

Got rid of mine to fussy for me

Awesome tips !