Ok now that helps so much you

Aha you're one of the first places I caught wind of any of this stuff, so thanks for that!

Honestly it's not worth it. Not only is it the rarest skill to achieve via mutation, but it's not transferable like almighty Amp. I would've gone through with the headache if that was the case but I was mad as hell when I found out.

Ah, thanks for the comment! Who did you get MM on?

@@bainz Helel! Followed your advice near the end of the video to fuse Helel with two Personas of the Group 6 Arcanas (which is also appreciated, saves a lot of fiddling around the admittedly kind of obtuse calculator spreadsheet to find the best combination is 6 + 6) Did it with Beezelbub (Devil) and Anatta (Aeon), and most of the inherited skills came from Beezelbub, just because he's easy to load up with a bunch of good skills since he is a Special Fusion and can choose skills to inherit from any of his like 5 ingredients. My final Helel fuse was (my combination only allowed 4 inherited skills): Almighty Amp (highest weight on the 6+6 fusion table), Brave Blade (2nd highest weight), Megidolaon (shares 3rd highest Rank 8 weight with God's Hand and Salvation), God's Hand, Salvation, Morning Star (learned by levelling, negligible weight and Rank 9 but no better options at 4 inherited skills), Spell Master (learned by levelling, replacing Makougaon, 0 weight, but Rank 8 so could mutate into MM), Thunder Reign (0 weight, but this was the damage skill, can replace with whatever element you want) If the math I did was right, this setup meant that there was about a 0.5% chance that a skill mutation would result in MM. If you don't get it (or it selects Thunder Reign to mutate because RNG hates you), reload to just before the fuse. When I got it, it mutated from God's Hand. I might edit my fusion setup into the top of my original comment just so people can see it easily as a Suggestion. Probably not the most efficient/mathematically correct setup, but it's what suited my needs. Never would have figured out the ingredient Arcana shenanigans in a million lifetimes if I didn't stumble upon this video, thanks again! A bit mad I wasted an actual dozen hours of fusing before finding out though :( By the way, while I'm here, do you happen to know if Elizabeth can receive ailments? Particularly Shock/Freeze, as I'm not sure whether to slap Ailment Boost onto this MM Helel or just go for a defensive instead. Tried searching, but nothing. Only found out that Elizabeth can be dealt a Critical Hit, which is also important information for when I build a Phys Persona for her.

Aw that REALLY a sucks for you bro. I’m so sorry you couldn’t do a black viper build, but I can tell you that I have a Satan build and while I prefer it to a Diamond Dust build simply because it’s a unique move with the highest base power in the game, it really doesn’t do much damage, not compared to even a non-driver physical build persona when hitting or Crit, it’s more comparable to a non-magic mastery severe element build,

My Magic Mastery mutated from Debilitate and that was after dozens (maybe 100+) tries. I got it on Lucifer and that's all I'm going to do; the effort just isn't worth it after learning everything that was revealed in this video.

Generally, it's just solo beating the Reaper a bunch of times, usually with Armageddon. Or you could use other Personas to beat him, and have Growth 3 on Orpheus

Technically Messiah is the ultimate persona in the story and thankfully he is able to get magic mastery. Rip Thanatos and Telos haha

​@@kentan9387Messiah gets Magic ability which is only 25%

Hmm if you want to get Victory Cry on Messiah, easiest way would be to transfer it from Telos to either Thanatos or Orpheus, rather than relying on mutations if you can

I don't know if it warrants another vid, but I did make a Community Post with a new list

Are you fusing close to a full moon? Should occur if so. Make sure to be including Rank 8 skills during fusion

U have to fuse 40 Personas after 40 you get a mutation every time!!!

Same with aeon x fortune

Hmm true, but if someone is going for MM just to be able to run Ice Break, I gotta question it lol

I'm trying to get it for an all around Persona, who can hit all six elements for high damage. All six Ma-dyne skills, plus Magic Mastery, Lucifer's Blade... and I guess Multi Target boost in the last skill slot. just a great Persona to clear random encounters and easier bosses. Max damage on a single type doesn't sound all that great to me, I prefer to run physical or almighty for the harder bosses, and neither of those builds need MM.

While I disagree with Magic Mastery’s implementation, 2024 has been the Year of Atlus and anything but punishing. Refer to the 25th persona Anniversary for “punishing”

because they get off on our tears

Same here, dang, those wasted hours

... It's in the vid at 13:43

Messiah learns Magic Ability from level up. They are able to learn MM cuz Orpheus is one of their ingredients

It's not the same Magic Mastery

@@Kaxxito whats the diff?

@@sxa6122 Spell master what Loki get halfes SP cost of spells, Magic Mastery basically universal AMP 50% dmg for any spell what not almighty, diference is huge.

Ice is the only main element with a Theurgy (King and I) Ice builds are also pretty good for Elizabeth cuz she takes a lot more damage if you use the right element at the right time (Ice after she's used Surt) Any Magic Mastery Persona can consistently 5 turn kill her, using only Theurgy, so you technically don't even need Diamond Dust

How did you even get it? I've been trying to get it for 10+ hours. Getting it on ONE persona isn't worth it at all, better wasting 6 euros on dlcs cuz you'll do similar damage (which is still useless even vs merciless elizabeth, unless you plan a 4-6 turn kill)

@@alalunare48 Your Completely right. It’s not worth it. At all. And I did all this before CTOBN came out with his information, so I did it through sheer will and preservation. For all 4 they ranged from taking 6 hours to one taking an ungodly 34 hours. I only recommend doing this if you’re a huge SMT fan like me, who only did it for fun tbh. If you just wanna min max, Cendrillion for Theurgy and Johanna for Gods Hand. And if your like me and hate the fact the strongest personas in the game are the base party p5 personas, just build whoever tf you want LOL!

​@@Megidolaon999good job on getting magic mastery btw, it really requires a lot of effort. I wanted to get it on Orpheus telos, since he is the ultimate persona and all, but I gave up and went with my 10th morning star build lol

Bad enough it's a bitch to get, but you can't even transfer it to other Personas. Good stuff getting it though.

@@alalunare48 You cannot get it on Telos!!!! Like I said, I hacked it in. I tried to get it on Telos for an UNGODLY time, and was really disappointed when I saw a video from a KZfaqr using Magic Mastery on Telos while stating he never hacked it in and got it legit. After all the research CTOBN has done though this is now proven impossible. I got it on my Telos on computer through mods. You can get it on Orpheus though, which I did do.

Just use lucifers blade for magic ability

nvm