How to Get the Most from Your Bosch Connected E Bike

How to Get the Most from Your Bosch Connected E Bike | eMTB Connectivity Explained

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3 жыл бұрын

Connecting your E Mountain Bike to your smartphone can help make it a better bike! With the help of Bosch, Steve runs through all the features available with connected devices, and the advantages they can bring to your riding.
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@embn 3 жыл бұрын

Do you use any of these functions on your e bike?

@JohnRushworth 3 жыл бұрын

I use the Kiox, and like the human power, heart rate and cadence. But I’d really like to see motor power in Watts too, so I can understand the power split between ride and motor in various modes.

@tomaslovrek6670 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent review (and good PR for Bosch), everything you said is true, but you forgot (or shouldn’t) tell us some other things, I’ll tell you as a 6-month Kiox user: 1. It is a 250€ device without a GPS sensor and it's completely dependent on the smartphone, if you do not have an internet connection, navigation will struggle or will not work at all, you GPS track will be interrupted ... 2. Fitness ... all you have from Fitness is your HR (current, average and maximum), there is no option to adjust the HR range, and the engine will help you according to this setting (as the Specialized app does. ..) 3. You can see the current altitude, but you will not see ascent and descent data, neither in the Bosch app !?!? 4. There is no automatic upload to Strava or Garmin, you can do it only in web app manually, with mobile app you can't 5. When you go on ride be sure that your mobile phone is fully charged because location data will drain you phone battery very quickly...you can charge phone thru Kiox but you have to buy Bosch cable (10 cm long ?!?!, totally useless, other cables doesn’t work) 6. Lock function is OK but if you loose Kiox than you are in trouble... Over all, good device but, it's to much dependent on internet network and that is not good for MTB trail users

@macmovieman1 3 жыл бұрын

I use the Nyon and my wife has the Kiox. We use this daily to track everything. The heart rate monitor is spotty and does not always connect but the other features work really well. We use the Sena helmets and it would be nice to get direction with verbal directions in the helmet. I also would like to see tire pressure monitoring.

@nelsjustason9559 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent overview of the eBike Connect and Kiox. Inspiring for me to try some options on Kiox I hadn’t previously.

@TheTomekka 3 жыл бұрын

primitive not to say vulgar product placement. It appears as no drawbacks are in Kiox software - all super and sweet. But It happens that I own cube with kiox but I have ridden also Specialized and the software and options which Specialized offers is light years ahead of bosch...

@wwalsi 3 жыл бұрын

I agree totally, its very far behind anything else on the market and the e-bike connect app is very temperamental

@alexandervonbraun 2 жыл бұрын

The Bosch software isn't anywhere near other brands, the motors are great but software is sup par. Especially ebike connect

@Mr_Blootered Жыл бұрын

Looks like this was a year ago - is Bosch any better now? I'm thinking specifically of the Bosch Performance CX Smart System with Intuvia controller. Please forgive me if this is a noob question, this is all very new to me.

@jakubdobrosielski5709 11 ай бұрын

@@Mr_Blootered it's much better now. Ebike 2 system i something much different but I don't understand why Smart system is not backwords compatible. It have the same motor, just with Smart System, same battery again different port. Smart system give you much more options but again Bosch don't allow to use other devices like Garmin to all fetures. You can connect Garmin to system but you can't control settings from Garmin display. You need to have LED Control od more to be able to do anything. Also Bosch lack when it comes to small controller, its big but much smaller than purion display. I would buy Bosch Smart System only becouse of new great SX motor. CX is still one od the best motors on the market but SX with 400wh battery waights only 4kg

@ActivewheelsMerthyr 3 жыл бұрын

I love using the Kiox. Great for navigation and seeing the effort put into a ride. One thing that doesn’t seem to work is great ascent value. It also seems to over estimate the climbing when transferred to Strava and compared to kamoot. I must have a setting wrong 🤯

@MCNIBBLE 3 жыл бұрын

Good timing on this video. I am looking at getting a white E150 and was wanting to put kiox on it. It was good to find out it can do.

@embn 3 жыл бұрын

Great to hear you like the video and it helps 👍

@rudy7631 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent salesman. I will go and buy it right now!

@duanelitchfield5620 3 жыл бұрын

Yay! Bosch. I love my Kiox navigation function.

@phantombigballs8165 3 жыл бұрын

Since last update mine doesn't work

@olafmoosmann2390 3 жыл бұрын

Not to forget: You can even charge your phone via the Kiox display. You just need a cable to connect with correct adapter. And this is officially allowed. Check the manual! I use this when navigating with Komoot on iPhone for longer rides

@Kev.in-Bike 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this Nice video

@damonschoen3082 Жыл бұрын

I Pelaton in the cold months. To train on Pelaton is now completely capable on the bike. VERY COOL

@mallias2683 3 жыл бұрын

Very nice video. Kiox is an amazing upgrade, But overall Bosch is locked in it's own ecosystem regarding connectivity....It would be great to be able to connect your Bosch ebike to your Garmin gps device. But then who would buy the other more expensive displays that Bosch is offering?

@mallias2683 3 жыл бұрын

Also, you cannot upgrade your bike software with Kiox as Steve mentioned, you can only upgrade the Kiox software via bluetooth....and you cannot have any battery diagnostics as the end user without going to the dealer....

@clintonsandusky8428 3 жыл бұрын

Steve, Thanks for this look at "connectivity" and the BOSCH Kiox Display! I have 3 comments and a "best practices" for my Kiox and beyond. Comment 1: I love my 2021 Trek Rail 9.7, with the Gen. 4 Performance CX motor. 2. The BOSCH Connect app really drains your smartphone's battery! 3. Even after contacting BOSCH NA, I cannot connect my Kiox with STRAVA. Based on the 3 comments, my "best practice" is to use the Kiox display during my eMTB ride, but to use my Garmin smartwatch to sync up with STRAVA. Clint, The (USA) eBike Guy x2

@ChopperCindy 3 жыл бұрын

I have successfully uploaded my ride to Strava from the Kiox. It was such a convoluted procedure that I have forgotten exactly how it’s done! I believe that you can only do it by going through the Bosch website..not the connect app. I have set the website as a favourite on my iPad and after a ride I access the connect function and then my ride file and then upload to Strava. I haven’t been able to have it upload automatically but rest assured you can directly upload to Strava. If anyone has a better way I would be keen to find out how because, like you, I contacted Bosch and they could not give me any constructive help.

@pawelodz8050 3 жыл бұрын

Kiox ordered :D Greetings from Poland

@kfalkowski93 Жыл бұрын

Brilliant 👏

@embn Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Kevin! 🙌

@ericm8811 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Embn! Only Ray cares more about electronic data than the riding! Ride ride ride!

3 жыл бұрын

I know it's commercial, but I liked it ;-)

@stevejones7956 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Igor

@vonyp6018 3 жыл бұрын

Heart rate monitor connection gives you accurate calories. I also use the navigation in bike parks as well as mountains... though I rarely publish my rides. I was just telling a mate today that an ebike with kiox beats any exercise bike that I ever used ! @ 18 months and 1500 miles, it's a great bit of kit. My only gripe is having to go to a dealer to activate the integrated light control ( for when I get compatible lights this winter )

@TheCryptoSmit 2 жыл бұрын

Nice 👍

@ubersenton2107 3 жыл бұрын

Great video! but still missing NP instead Avg power, also for the update is valid only for the headunit.....weird in 2021 not possible to update all system (drive and battery), isn't it?

@tomaskonkol8894 3 жыл бұрын

Will be nice if you can all that data be transferred to garmin ecosystem or send by Bluetooth or ant+ as sensor to other fitness trackers or computers.

@patoberli 3 жыл бұрын

I don't expect that the Kiox would export the data via Bluetooth/Ant+ to a Garmin or similar unit? The latest info I found was from 2020 where it wasn't (yet) possible.

@nzmtrails9768 3 жыл бұрын

Speaking about connectivity, in the portal I saw two rides both where unnamed activity in the portal so I guess something went wrong there :)

@jean-marcvienne 2 жыл бұрын

Want to order this one, really like fonction to navigateur

@BABALOOEY46 3 жыл бұрын

But can we get a Bosch that doesn’t get tracked via Bluetooth? Opting out of all tech should also be an option in the future.

@timatkinson2070 3 жыл бұрын

Great info in the vid. Please post where that Kiox handlebar mount is available. I can only find a stem cap mounted option which is a bit exposed. Thx.

@carstenreeder8634 3 жыл бұрын

KTM offers one like that.

@timatkinson2070 3 жыл бұрын

@@carstenreeder8634Thx for the reply. Do you have a link?

@Pik4chu985 3 жыл бұрын

Either KTM kiox mount or cube acid mount. Just look it up on Google

@netlans 3 жыл бұрын

While I am here, how hard is the upgrade? I am sure I could handle it just not sure if I want to. A how to video maybe?

@ambonirider 3 жыл бұрын

Speaking of connectivity i have to say that my friends with specialized are light years in advance than me with bosch system.

@Boodoo4You 11 ай бұрын

Lmao. At 5:32 it tells you you’re going the wrong way, but there’s only 1 track…

@MH-mi6mk Жыл бұрын

Do not forget that Bosch is in parallel also getting all its customer’s usage data via their account system…

@js7617 3 жыл бұрын

Is it possible to replace a Purion with a Kiox, is it plug in?

@carstenreeder8634 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, easy swap. But you have to pull the motor to get to the plugs and you have to change the cable down to the motor. Other than that it is plug and play.

@PureSpeedPro 3 жыл бұрын

I have done it - 30min job mainly spent on the internal cable runs

@bbckx2340 3 жыл бұрын

When you use the navigation but you come at the same point 2 or 3 times you will have a kiox screen filled with blue lines and you will have to take your phone to see witch line to follow... because there is no indication on the kiox. 🤦‍♂️

@CurvedSlightly 3 жыл бұрын

I can't be arsed with all that crap, I just ride my bike, but I can see some things that might be useful for some like auto-gear-shifting when the bike detects an elevation change from map data and torque changes. I want useful features that make the rides more fun than they already are. I'm a lazy barsteward, that's why I ride eBike, so don't care how much my heart isn't working or how many calories I've not burnt, just tell me how far it is to the pub and how to get there, Cheers!

@netlans 3 жыл бұрын

Wait, before this you was still using a paper map? I don't understand how you are able to turn the bike on with that level of technology disfunction.

@stevejones7956 3 жыл бұрын

I got someone to do that for me Joe....

@netlans 3 жыл бұрын

@@stevejones7956 Some people have people. The only people I have need help. I just want to follow someone.

@nickpmtb5629 3 жыл бұрын

Got to agree with some of the comments below.... My Trek Rail sounds like a bag of spanners on rough terrain... 🙉 It really spoils the bike in my opinion. The motor is great when it's actually assisting you, but the noise and the 1990's purion display, connectivity and Boschs' closed system approach is definitely a big negative and will affect my next ebike purchase ..... despite this blatant Bosch advert.... 🙄

@TheDildo53 3 жыл бұрын

The purion display is so ugly (Kiox and nyon are not much better). Bosch is so behind specialized on this topic,even though I own a Bosch driven emtb (love the motor performance nonetheless). Would love to be able to improve the purion!!

@erickadiantogunawan2460 3 жыл бұрын

To bad bosch ebike connect can't be downloaded in Indonesia

@xmateinc 10 ай бұрын

Apple watch connect to the bosch system no problem, but garmin watches don't. I'd much prefer a garmin watch for longer outdoor activites.

@SteadyPetesFPVquadracing 3 жыл бұрын

My Kiox says i can ride 255km after first discharge and charge, this is not accurate at all! Cube Stereo Hybride HPC SL

@davidking3699 3 жыл бұрын

This help buying decisions before you get locked into one proprietary system and finding out it doesn't have the features you want.

@kevinliu6002 Жыл бұрын

Why the heck does Bosch not offer this app in Brazil?

@NeilsEMTBWorld 3 жыл бұрын

😍🔋⚡️

@fgaspar_dot_com 3 жыл бұрын

Bosh Purion owner here... so no connectivity for me...

@G3RTH 3 жыл бұрын

10:13mins 53MPH!!! Where did you hit that 👀👀👀🤔

@richardkaz2336 3 жыл бұрын

No use to me on my 2018 Powerfly. Can't connect as there is no interface with the Purion, besides don't have time or desire to look lovingly at a screen sa I prefer to not a hug a tree or plumet into a ravine. As for navigation most of our trails don't appear on any apps except for routes that have been shared on other Strava users. So for that an old IPhone and Quad Lock does the trick.

@phantombigballs8165 3 жыл бұрын

My bosch app will no longer find a route

@JB50713 3 жыл бұрын

My Bosch driven bike makes so much noise while going over rough terrain I want to get rid of it. Sounds worse than a big box store bike.

@richardkaz2336 3 жыл бұрын

My Performance Line XC makes virtually no motor noise campared to Shimano EP8000. If you bike is making a lot of noise over rough terrain. Check your derailleur clutch and check that all of your linkages screws are tight as they will make a lot of noise that appears to come from the motor. Been there and fixed that.

@JB50713 3 жыл бұрын

@@richardkaz2336 It's definitely the motor. If I'm pedalling over roots or rough ground it's totally silent. The derailleur clutch "appears" to be working. How much tension should there be? Thanks for any help. I'm seriously considering getting rid of this bike the noise bothers me so much.

@JB50713 3 жыл бұрын

@@milkfridge I basically only do CX and the noise is horrendous! I can't believe Bosch is even selling a product like this.

@BH-cy9tb 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah not fair. I have a 2021 trek rail 5 with the purion display .and Bosch should somehow upgrade firmware so I can connect to my phone.

@keithreed5009 Жыл бұрын

Upgrade to the Kiox, I’ve just done that to my Trek Rail that came with Purion display

@prettyjohnshill76 3 жыл бұрын

I have a kiox on my rail, and I certainly won't be downloading any apps. Why do I need to know my heart rate? It's beating inside my chest fcol! 🤦

@_adam__luka 3 жыл бұрын

For me , This material is only to show and remind bosch system. Why ? They need to have advertaisment when They show new engine or bigger battery . Only for that.

@bluestraycat 3 жыл бұрын

I ride a Bosch powered bike, love the motor. But...Bosch, at the forefront of connectivity ? Really? Who are you kidding?

@Rosco0754 3 жыл бұрын

Shockingly bad, even on your screen you are missing accent and decent. It has never shown this on mine post ride, it has only shown the route I have taken 3 times. Only 4 times out of 10 does it actually connect to my phone. Bosch are historically adverse to connecting to 3rd party stuff or like most others we would be able to tune the power in each mode. I use my kiox for range and range alone,to be honest it's all it's good for. I now ride with s Garmin 1000 because of kiox failings.

@thomasgotz2090 3 жыл бұрын

100% agree. The navigation is useless, especially if you have an intersection with 4 or 5 paths to choose. And that you cannot customize motor power is beyond belief in 2021. oh, and they want to charge me an extra 10 Bucks for the locking feature… ain’t gonna happen…

@rraymakers 3 жыл бұрын

just give us a bluetooth connection so we can connect our phone, the people will take it from there

@speedforcesimracer1712 3 жыл бұрын

What about when the motor reaches the speed limit but instead of disengaging to allow you to free ride it switches off and you get lots of drag from the motor talk about engine braking 😡

@maxflight777 11 ай бұрын

The Navigation doesn’t work that well! You may well find that you need your phone mounted on your bike… Kiox doesn’t really navigate that well. “Route could not be calculated “ … is a common reply to any simple navigation request…🤯

@GoncaloRijo 3 жыл бұрын

90% comes with purion... They should at least sell a simple add on thar connects to the phone and streams the data without 200 euros on a kiosk that does not work that well...

@Wimbelder 3 ай бұрын

Way not use Bosch smart flow for this

@fj6172 Жыл бұрын

Robert Bosch should be honest and publish a list of phones proven to work with this. My certainly does not. Even after four years of trying

@amlopes 2 ай бұрын

Bosch is very far behind other brands in terms of connectivity. The simple connection to a Garmin system is not possible. They are blind in their own world.

@richardcollyer9414 3 жыл бұрын

Or you could go for a ride and have fun without this pointless shit

@TheAngryHusky 3 жыл бұрын

Bosch has the worst display ever.

@massimofederici9207 3 жыл бұрын

I use only battery % , power mode and cadence from my kiox....navigation is so bad vs. the cheapest Garmin ever. @embn which should be the best avg cadence to save battery? I used to run at 60... thanks

@landytravels9427 3 жыл бұрын

Totally agree, I also just use mine for the basic display function plus the lock, 9 times out of 10 it doesn’t record my rides and currently still thinks I’m on a ride which finished last week! I use a Garmin explore (which has its moments too!) and Strava via my Apple Watch for navigation and route recording.