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How to Growl on Saxophone (Natural Distortion Pedal)

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Jay Metcalf explains how to growl on the saxophone.
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@Wondereggguy
@Wondereggguy 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a clarinet player and I found this video very useful, while I’m not a pro at growling I was able to growl for 3 seconds in just 10 minutes of practice. Your advice has helped a ton.
@jellyhendren4463
@jellyhendren4463 2 жыл бұрын
I play clarinet to I also play saxophone for jazz band
@thatboredgamer2269
@thatboredgamer2269 2 жыл бұрын
@@jellyhendren4463 my school doesn’t have a jazz band. I hope in my high school they’ll have it
@86larsonrd
@86larsonrd 2 жыл бұрын
@@thatboredgamer2269 start your own. You really just need two other instruments: a bass and a drum, and you have a combo. Get a keys player and you are styling, although a *good* guitartist will work, too. Someone that can comp.
@thatboredgamer2269
@thatboredgamer2269 2 жыл бұрын
@@86larsonrd thanks for the advice
@86larsonrd
@86larsonrd 2 жыл бұрын
@@thatboredgamer2269 I look forward to you posting your jam sessions.
@akmadsen
@akmadsen 2 жыл бұрын
The growl is the result of interference from the pitch of your voice in the sax sound - i.e. the pulses you hear in the growl is the difference in frequency between the two tones (roughly speaking). So if you sing a tone close to the one you're playing, the interference pattern will become slower and more pronounced while it will get faster the further your singing pitch is away from the note you're playing. It's a lot of fun to play around with.
@rameshrao3792
@rameshrao3792 2 жыл бұрын
beats
@majotroobs719
@majotroobs719 2 жыл бұрын
Also, you can get acoustic effects like the Tartini tones and if both frequencies match, there is no growling effect. That's two things that I missed in the video.
@nelsonwilkins347
@nelsonwilkins347 2 жыл бұрын
What
@86larsonrd
@86larsonrd 2 жыл бұрын
@@nelsonwilkins347 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bq-Fm62omsqtgYk.html
@thomascordery7951
@thomascordery7951 Жыл бұрын
I was writing a longer comment and then saw yours. That's my experience too. Start with something close to the sounded note and diverge the note you're humming from there. I also like how one can change the contour of the sax's timbre, for example by introducing a hum mid-note then fading it away. Practicing this is also a great way to make long tone practice more interesting: crescendo and decrescendo within each note, perhaps sweeping the frequency of your humming over a range to get different and changing effects. I find it useful to record these sessions and play them back later, so I get more than just what I hear in my head. Massive expressive potential! Thanks to Jay for doing this!
@davidskey
@davidskey 2 жыл бұрын
I found that practicing growling just with the mouthpiece and neck was a helpful baby step to getting it down.
@ketong71
@ketong71 2 жыл бұрын
When I was learning Tequila way back in HS, I tried the growling part by "gurgling" or "gargling" while playing. It worked. However, when I try doing it for other solos where the growling was longer, I couldn't sustain it and it did hurt my throat a bit. I recently discovered the "humming" method, as described here. Need to work on it more as I noticed it needs more air than regular blowing (at least for me).
@arvidwelin469
@arvidwelin469 2 жыл бұрын
the "rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr" rolling the tounge is to me a much more beautiful growl and it doesen't hurt your throat. God bless Jr Walker
@TheJJ6
@TheJJ6 2 жыл бұрын
That is called flutter tonguing and in reality isnt growling. Its a separate technique that has its own purposes in forms of music. People use it when they are not able to perform proper growling technique yet
@pennyivy
@pennyivy 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for this! Way easier for me! Never even thought to try this in a reed instrument!
@corycaserta748
@corycaserta748 2 жыл бұрын
I learned to trill my tongue further back in my mouth, off/away from the reed. It gives a sharper oscillation to the sax tone and it saves your voice. It seems easier to control starts/stops, as well. Butm I like and use both options.
@benjaminlight7227
@benjaminlight7227 2 жыл бұрын
So I’m not the only one! It’s like a light flutter tongue
@MrCparking
@MrCparking 2 жыл бұрын
That is called an uvular trill, as a native French speaker I can do this all day long. It corresponds to a rolled R in French as well as a rolled R & CH in some German dialects. I admit I can't do the signing bit reliably, but the uvular trill comes out loud and clear every time I need it. And yes, technically it is not a growl but a flutter tongue, but close enough for an effect one uses every once in a while... Happy trilling! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gdqnqdt23LTOkqM.html
@derekakien7379
@derekakien7379 2 жыл бұрын
Is it also called flap tounging? I was shown this 60 years ago. Used to play the surf rock classic Miserlou growling all the way through on Tenor. Brought the house down, literally, a few tiles came down. I found it did not work too well on Alto.
@Joe7166
@Joe7166 2 жыл бұрын
Tongue trilling was a technique used by Junior Walker..Esp.. in the song Shotgun..
@JazzbLu
@JazzbLu 2 жыл бұрын
So how does one tongue trill?
@kateisabella8797
@kateisabella8797 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a percussionist wtf am I doing here
@robertgalardi3731
@robertgalardi3731 2 жыл бұрын
once again mr saxophone Jay Metcalf teaches us something that no teacher ever taught us .at least no teacher i knew ever taught us to Growl .. don't even think they knew how, nor would they consider the Growl legitimate saxophone playing .. so i say THANKS TO Jay Metcalf because the Growl can be effective and good to have in my bag ...
@bettersax
@bettersax 2 жыл бұрын
Glad this helped Robert.
@jacoblundgren69
@jacoblundgren69 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know if my teacher could but i guessed he did and then someone asked if he could and oh he could, extremly good
@judithbregman7003
@judithbregman7003 2 жыл бұрын
So I've been playing sax for 33 years and it took playing Peter Gunn theme to finally start to learn to growl. Wish me luck
@jerrynormandin2892
@jerrynormandin2892 23 күн бұрын
One of my favorite warm up riffs is from that song
@jameseason1759
@jameseason1759 2 жыл бұрын
Trombonist Albert Mangelsdorf would simultaneously vocally harmonize with his playing. Amazing!
@jnbplaysgames
@jnbplaysgames 2 жыл бұрын
a.k.a. polyphonics, pretty popular technique amongst professional tubists as well.
@Ambaryerno
@Ambaryerno 2 жыл бұрын
You'll get that with jazz flute sometimes.
@willipuga
@willipuga 2 жыл бұрын
A good way to practice is doing it while whistling! Lots of fun
@suziepearson9082
@suziepearson9082 2 жыл бұрын
Actual LOL here at the faces you're pulling and the titles on screen - STOP THAT! OUCH! etc. Excellent way to make the point about over-doing it. I keep having a go, but always feel like I'm going to burst several blood vessels in the process!
@santamanta69
@santamanta69 2 жыл бұрын
I'm also a saxophone playing, In specific an Alto Saxophone player, I've been playing for 3 weeks and learned 52 songs and just learned eighth notes with tonguing but thank you very much for showing me how to growl this was very useful and educational
@MS-ld3jn
@MS-ld3jn 2 жыл бұрын
How did you learn/teach yourself about the fundamentals?
@daveallison5784
@daveallison5784 2 жыл бұрын
Jay, I had tried sax growling without much success based on various sources I had read, but your short video explains the technique really well, especially your advice about air flow! Thanks!
@bettersax
@bettersax 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@kennatco7916
@kennatco7916 2 жыл бұрын
I use the vocalization technique when I play my xaphoon. I also get a decent-sounding growl by allowing a little air to escape from the corners of my mouth. I learned that early on when my embouchure wasn't very strong and my lips got too tired to maintain a proper seal around the mouthpiece. Now I do it on purpose when I feel like growling.
@jerrynormandin2892
@jerrynormandin2892 23 күн бұрын
Ahh.. Growling. I use that on my Tenor playing "Yackety Sax" I haven't played my sax in a while, a few years ago my fingers started locking up. I found the right Doc and now the problem is gone and I'm picking up my sax again. Thanks for the Growling lesson, when I get my old Conn back I'm going to try it.
@CarlMichaelAyotte
@CarlMichaelAyotte 2 жыл бұрын
I found that doing this in a quiet room is the worst way to do it. You start to obsess about the hum pitch etc. The best results come on gigs with loud rooms where the band is playing LOUD rock and roll where you literally can’t hear the note you’re humming and you wind up just moaning and grunting (yes, you CAN bang up your voice a little, but IT’S ROCK AND ROLL! ) Another good way that I stumbled upon was helping out a friends “pep band” at hockey games. If you play in the bleachers at a hockey or football game, with all the loud crowd screaming and blaring songs usually used, you can work on your hum growl VERY easily. Using these methods (especially gigs that called for it where I was set up next to the loudest guitarists tube amp ever) it became so second nature to me that I had to focus in to tell if I was still humming or not! For a while when playing with that loud band I had to concentrate NOT to hum at cocktail hour real book gigs! And don’t hum the note you’re playing on the sax. It’s not like George Benson.
@brolo345yee4
@brolo345yee4 2 жыл бұрын
I play tenor saxophone and I have never been able to do this since 7th grade, Today i was able to do it thanks to you
@jimeast2746
@jimeast2746 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jay, growling I really do want to learn how to do. I appreciate this tutorial. Thanks for all your great work! You really do give us a place to go to learn more about the instrument we all love and enjoy. I am still a student. Got lots going on in my life so I’m not improved a whole lot and I’m sorry to say that. But your inspiration in. Like lessons and words of support are amazing. I am thankful that I bought my alto sax, and once I learn it and master it, I will be on to getting a tenor. That’s really my dream is to play at 10 or. Sorry I’m dictating if it’s not coming out right. I am blind and have a it’s just quicker this way to dictate. Thanks everyone for your patience and again thank you Jay for better sex!
@ajdugan8142
@ajdugan8142 2 жыл бұрын
I discovered a method in which you flip your tongue up and use the bottom of your tongue on the tip of the reed/mouthpiece. Then blow a bunch of air through the horn. So far I know it works well on tenor and alto. It’s sort of like flutter tonguing although everyone I’ve explained it to was confused. But it does produce a really good growling sound in my opinion
@marcusallen330
@marcusallen330 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been learning ‘Take Five’ as part of my practice routine. Gonna go try it with the growl 😂
@theglauber
@theglauber 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@tuxsax
@tuxsax 2 жыл бұрын
I always use what I call "almost" growl, I don't "sing" a real voice into the note, I more like exhaling a "HHHH", opening the throat so more air flows through. This gives you a very "soft" growling tone which I like and it's easier on the throat after it. So you won't really hear a "distortion" growling, but the sound will be different and more emphasized, with a lot of "vibration" in it.
@mrtdmccollum
@mrtdmccollum 2 жыл бұрын
When I first started playing Sax I used the flutter tongue (rolling Rs like in spanish) to growl but obviously that prevents you from articulating while growling. Additionally, it was very exhausting to maintain. This technique you shared is the best. In recent years, I've pushed myself to hold a note and sing/hum intervals above/below the note being played.
@georgebaumann
@georgebaumann 2 жыл бұрын
Regarding "not overdoing it" with a sax growl, I remember going to a nightclub to catch Zoot Sims playing with a quartet one night in Toronto. Over the entire night, and many songs, he managed to find only ONE NOTE upon which to use his very accomplished growl. It was duly noted by the audience, and it was a kind of "in" joke among those who were listening carefully. Yes, it was appropriately placed, on a 'blue note' in a passing phrase, but it was so unusual in the context of the rest of the night, it brought smiles from many, including me, and from Mr. Sims as well . . .
@bettersax
@bettersax 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@zara-dn4uz
@zara-dn4uz 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a clarinet player that just started tenor sax. This helped a ton!
@alexensing1541
@alexensing1541 2 жыл бұрын
To avoid hurting your vocal chords while growling, try using airflow management techniques like chest compression. This is how rock and metal singers can distort their voices without hurting themselves. Chris Liepe's (vocal) channel goes into this in detail, but the principles are pretty much the same.
@robstevens9590
@robstevens9590 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip about humming and making sure your airstream is steady before putting the sax in your mouth. This is the step I was missing!
@nikolopapini2410
@nikolopapini2410 2 жыл бұрын
totally agree.... sometimes it's pretty hard to combine singing and growl on sax....
@Rockplayer01
@Rockplayer01 2 жыл бұрын
I play mostly blues/rock/funk and use growling and flutter tongue techniques sparingly. I listen to great blues oriented vocalists like Ray Charles, BB King and sax players like Lee Allen and Red Prysok to understand where those techniques work the best when playing. When to keep it smooth and when to make it scream. All the articulations like growling, fluttering, trills, double & triple tonguing really add to solos and sax lines in a hard driving band but they need to be used where it counts the most.
@q12aw50
@q12aw50 Жыл бұрын
I never really understood how to hum while I play, and then I got it once, and it really was as simple as humming while you play😂
@lostlove4200
@lostlove4200 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Jay, I started playing a few years ago (I'm 59) and one thing no one would tell me is how to growl ("you just figure it out"). Well now I know! Thank you!
@jacobtobias9255
@jacobtobias9255 2 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna pick up a Sax at a garage sale and teach myself how to play, I love me some sax
@DeletedUser73926
@DeletedUser73926 2 жыл бұрын
I have always (roughly 3 years) growled by dropping the back of tongue and letting the air kind of “bubble?” off the roof of my mouth all the way in the back One week I was hearing what I was about to play in my head as I was playing which was pretty normal for me but for this week I was subconsciously humming what I was hearing in my head as I was playing it (without noticing). Someone asked me why I was growling everything and I was super confused obviously but I eventually figured out that’s what was happening so I stopped humming it lol I tried to replicate it when I went to learn this style of growling and just couldn’t, having the same issue you described at the start of the video but earlier this afternoon I decided to try again and got it to work. Intonation is a little sketchy and actually falling into that sort of growl in a smooth manner isn’t too easy yet but hopefully I’ll get more comfortable with it The old was just seems more consistent I will say that the “flutter tongue”/“broken air stream” method sounds exactly the same except it’s not as bright as the humming method Here’s a short I made kzfaq.infoj6dCmoarHv0?feature=share
@EstebanBecerraRodriguez
@EstebanBecerraRodriguez 2 жыл бұрын
thank you, I make this efect even more agressively growling the note i'm singing while playing a note
@karichigi4999
@karichigi4999 2 жыл бұрын
Yea I love growling it was easy for me to learn it I love incorporating it into musical pieces
@zedahall299
@zedahall299 2 жыл бұрын
Oh wow this is the second video that I watched to learn how to growl but it was very helpful thank you
@altonova1
@altonova1 2 жыл бұрын
Had a lot of people try to explain it to me but I just never got it. Your explanation was not only helpful, but easy to understand!
@eshortsax
@eshortsax 2 жыл бұрын
I've done a "unique" thing (lol) I asked a friend how he growls and he said he just "roll his r's" while playing. That was a struggle for me--I can't do that...in Spanish class, I'd just "gargle" when I had those rr words lol. So I did that on sax and it'd worked decently after I learned how to keep it in tune while I did it lol. I definitely use the "hum" method and it was WAY easier lol.
@EstebanBecerraRodriguez
@EstebanBecerraRodriguez 2 жыл бұрын
roll an R while playing is called "Frulatto" articulation bro, very easy for a mexican native spanish speaker like me bay the way...
@tubatubatuba4586
@tubatubatuba4586 2 жыл бұрын
oh i do the same thing lol
@arielvinda6624
@arielvinda6624 2 жыл бұрын
@@EstebanBecerraRodriguez Argentinian here, can't do it... In fact I misspronounce the hard R's: I believe it has something to do with my tongue frenulum being too short
@EstebanBecerraRodriguez
@EstebanBecerraRodriguez 2 жыл бұрын
@@arielvinda6624 Que loco carnal, hasta ahora lo que conozco del español rioplatense, usan mucho la erre fuerte, como cuando dicen "ché, sos re boludo" y cosas por el estilo. Tal vez sea como dices alguna condición única en ti. Buscate el canal de "Sarah Jeffrey/team Recorder" tiene un video explicando el frulato para angloparlantes (que no usan Rs como nosotros) explicó uno que es con la garganta que es utilizado en el idioma holandes carnal... espero te sirva, un abrazo!
@EstebanBecerraRodriguez
@EstebanBecerraRodriguez 2 жыл бұрын
Haz de sonar como el Gran Julio Cortázar al hablar hermano, con acento argentino y erres suaves...
@sidneiramalho
@sidneiramalho 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid Jay, I started by pronouncing the letter V....at first I was forcing too much my throat and was in pain. I'd say if hurts, better to stop and try different things.
@charliegodell
@charliegodell 2 жыл бұрын
I don´t know why I always hate that growling sound so I never practiced it... I will give it a new tried after 38 years hahahaha thanks for all of your videos
@CamilleCheesecake
@CamilleCheesecake Жыл бұрын
this video is very helpful, I'm able to growl for a few sec right after watching it. Thank you
@CamilleCheesecake
@CamilleCheesecake Жыл бұрын
But i'm unable to play the note properly after I get to high D, the sound will be 1 octave lower. Are there anything wrong with my technique or I simply need more practice?
@joeblankenship377
@joeblankenship377 2 жыл бұрын
Somebody told me to just scream into the horn, and boom, growling. I also do that epiglottal/uvula rolling growl thing but it sounds different. You hear Lenny Pickett do it on SNL a lot.
@Neptunine...
@Neptunine... 2 жыл бұрын
I've been playing alto for 7 years, and I'm now just learning about this? Time to practice once I get back to school (I play for the band)
@lejazz6938
@lejazz6938 2 жыл бұрын
I'm happy to always preferring to try to develop a warm and open saxophone sound, for every time I try to produce the growling sound it itches my throat and I start coughing ;)
@noelllopezz1700
@noelllopezz1700 2 жыл бұрын
I am so glad I found this totoral I finally know how
@swarm_0371
@swarm_0371 2 жыл бұрын
This is making me want to play my sax rn, but it’s 11:00 pm
@giannistavarra6620
@giannistavarra6620 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't know how to do it but thanks to your method I made it thanks💪🎷
@bettersax
@bettersax 2 жыл бұрын
Happy to hear this.
@matthewknudson4303
@matthewknudson4303 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like the only person who does it this way. I loosen the left side of my lips while still touching the mouthpiece, letting it buzz freely, and it creates a natural vibration when I push air through the horn, creating the growl effect.
@mug5022
@mug5022 2 жыл бұрын
This video helped me learn to growl In one day.
@peterchrysostomou610
@peterchrysostomou610 Жыл бұрын
I've always just done a gurgling type growl to get a growl to come out of my sax. Never tried a humming approach before. I'll give that a go
@Adan-hr7tq
@Adan-hr7tq 5 ай бұрын
Love your videos you’ve taught me a lot of things thank you
@bettersax
@bettersax 5 ай бұрын
Glad to hear it!
@wesleyyoung6224
@wesleyyoung6224 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jay!
@bryandickerson5365
@bryandickerson5365 2 жыл бұрын
@Better Sax Nicely done Jay! That’s almost exactly how I present it to students, but it still doesn’t always work. I think the major hurdle is getting kids to comprehend how much air it really takes to truly get a good sound - and growling takes even more! PS. I was gonna post a link of either Jimmy Forrest or King Curtis growling on ‘Night Train’, but my memory was wrong - they barely use any growl on THE quintessential R&B sax instrumental of all time!
@ChrisHirner
@ChrisHirner 2 жыл бұрын
Had to figure this out on my own back in the 90s. Band teacher was a brass guy, didnt know about it.
@benhostetler268
@benhostetler268 2 жыл бұрын
I figured it out by whistling and humming at the same time but I also figured out another growl where I vibrate my uvula to create a fatter slower growl.
@kwootamuckbear9294
@kwootamuckbear9294 2 жыл бұрын
👍🏽Got my 2nd Bettersax growling ✌🏽🎶🎵🎷
@bettersax
@bettersax 2 жыл бұрын
Grrr!
@trefordavies3670
@trefordavies3670 2 жыл бұрын
Lovely job ! Great lesson. Cheers Jay .
@lefunkypierat7765
@lefunkypierat7765 2 жыл бұрын
this video pointed me in the right direction, although i wasnt able to figure out the humming, i figured out that if i vibrate the back of my throat to make a kind of pigeon sound, it sounds like a decent growl, on bari sax anyways
@replytothisifyouhavedumb7250
@replytothisifyouhavedumb7250 2 жыл бұрын
Trombonist, can confirm it works on brass too. Less of distortion though and closer to playing the 5th fret and the next string up open on a detuned guitar.
@MeGoBOOM
@MeGoBOOM 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been playing the Alto Saxophone since I think September of this year and I learned to play and where to put the position of mouth piece and I’m trying to take up as much information so I can get better at it
@EdenStoneReal
@EdenStoneReal 2 жыл бұрын
i don't even play saxophone yet but i love learning how to play without it
@grapeapeductape2489
@grapeapeductape2489 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, now I can effectively play Comanche by the Revels!
@bluessax5089
@bluessax5089 2 жыл бұрын
Great video!! Hit the nail on the head!! 🎯
@xxczerxx
@xxczerxx 2 жыл бұрын
I'm only learning this because I want to do that flourish thing Charlie Parker does in some of his solos. You say at the start "promise you won't overdo it" -- well Bird often did this for literally one note in his blistering solos! Cool to know though.
@sam-jams6689
@sam-jams6689 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the advice, always wondered how they do that! I am looking forward to trying it
@MusicMediccom
@MusicMediccom 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thank you for sharing!
@landismaitland-whitelaw5040
@landismaitland-whitelaw5040 2 жыл бұрын
That is interesting I will give it a try.... I have always just used a gargle technique to give me the growl sound.
@Rubberman202
@Rubberman202 8 ай бұрын
I first heard about the term "growling sax" from Dan Spencer of Best Music Coach, he was commenting on the Super Mario RPG video game OST on his channel "Music Theory for Gamers", and brought it up when talking about the track "And My Name's Booster", where there was a... well, I call it a "razz" or "stank" feel to it, but it definitely comes off as some kind of saxophone, or at least the closest approximation of such for the SNES. This intrigued me and I wanted to learn more about it, which brought me to this video. Interesting stuff.
@victorinshadiron
@victorinshadiron 2 жыл бұрын
Jay, great explanation ! I really mean to try this technique with my alto sax! 🎷
@HonestSaxSound-unEdited-
@HonestSaxSound-unEdited- 2 жыл бұрын
Great video again! Thanks Jay. If you try reproduce the sound from a little dog baby with your throat, then comes growl sound in your horn. And the other way is with your tongue.. pronouncing the latin Rrrrrrrr..rrrr, while you blow the notes. And you can combine both too.
@jccolon84
@jccolon84 2 жыл бұрын
Well, I growl without using the the octave key (like trying to play octave notes without using the key). Works fine just in some notes. I will try to use this technique... thanks
@christopheradams7158
@christopheradams7158 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Jay I'm back in the groove so I'm looking forward to seeing more of your videos & tutorials 😀
@bettersax
@bettersax 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@ericcoulter710
@ericcoulter710 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Jay, I like your videos and am looking into the sax offer next month that includes the f# key! Thanks -Eric
@jeromet2160
@jeromet2160 2 жыл бұрын
Been trying to growl for months guess I’ll keep learning
@RileyBrennhofer
@RileyBrennhofer 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not even a woodwind player but this is still interesting
@gianlucawork
@gianlucawork 2 жыл бұрын
What I do, when I try to practice the "Growl" is pretend to say "Grrrrrrr" while blowing. The result is not bad, even if I don't use it much while playing
@spencerhanson7808
@spencerhanson7808 Жыл бұрын
I had a band teacher say you can't flutter tongue on a woodwind. I found that you could. You place your tongue above the mouthpiece and then let it fly.
@drewismynick
@drewismynick 2 жыл бұрын
growl all day. every day. no retreat, no surrender!
@singingzoo
@singingzoo 2 жыл бұрын
WAY back when, I asked my teacher how I could sound like Clarence Clemmons. I'm not sure he really knew anything but jazz, but he suggested I buy a metal mouthpiece, which did not take me far in my intended goal. So now, 35 years later, I know the secret of the growling sax. I loved that teacher but he apparently did not know the secrets that Jay does...
@egdavis0820
@egdavis0820 Ай бұрын
Jay... ok ... the weird thing was I was playing in a Jazz band all summer and I would naturally growl on certain notes... it was innate... which I don't know where I picked it up and I was very young at the time.. and the director just liked it.. so I kept doing it when he wanted it.. now of course I realize what it is... I am an old guy now ... and put it down for a while.. hoping I can get it back in 6 months or so.
@itzfrenzy6838
@itzfrenzy6838 2 жыл бұрын
Love to see it!
@anthonysteinerv
@anthonysteinerv 2 жыл бұрын
I've watched every video for a very long time, and I don't even own a saxophone, that's sad.
@bettersax
@bettersax 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe you should get one... thanks for watching.
@jpzsax
@jpzsax 2 жыл бұрын
hehe I used to growl a loot when played in a Prog-Rock band trying to compete with the electric guitar XD
@thatoneleaf9895
@thatoneleaf9895 2 жыл бұрын
this was in my recommended and i dont play sax... still watched
@schmaler68
@schmaler68 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, this is so cool explained. I am unfortunately still at the very beginning and am happy when the tones are right. But I have already tried with the "RRR", with the singing is still difficult for me. But after the longtone exercises I try it again. Groovy regards, Kay
@landonleavelle6082
@landonleavelle6082 2 жыл бұрын
Ok so don't ask me for advice because I've been playing sax for about a year and for some reason it was really fucking easy for me to pick up growling. I heard someone do it at a jazz band practice session with my schools jazz band and literally the next day I was able to do it. Not sure if I just got lucky or what. When I first learned it I was so hyped but now that I'm actually taking private lessons and practicing overtones, long tones, etc. I don't use it as much and I really only use it when someone asks me if I can growl and I show them. That's my experience with it. I play tenor so idk if it's easier on tenor than on alto or what. Let me know.
@spikespiegel2652
@spikespiegel2652 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!
@arielvinda6624
@arielvinda6624 2 жыл бұрын
I found growl by accident trying to sing the partial so that I forced an overtone... it was fun
@JaimeRose-l6b
@JaimeRose-l6b 10 күн бұрын
Man I don't mean to brag but ..... I successfully growled on my first attempt 😅 Realized that's not the case for most after looking at the comments 😂
@luisgalvan740
@luisgalvan740 2 жыл бұрын
Im not even in band but this seemed so interesting
@passakornnanthanawut5041
@passakornnanthanawut5041 2 жыл бұрын
My technique is to blow while lifting the part of the tongue that attach to the throat to the point it starts to vibrate and makes gargling sound
@brucerichardson8716
@brucerichardson8716 2 жыл бұрын
At one of my early auditions (circa 1970) with a now famous rock band from Michigan, I was asked to "do that buzz sound like Bobby Keys." But after I'd spent most of my practice time working on Parker, Stitt, Adderley and Coltrane riffs, I decided that I would humor them only until we grew tired of each other, which didn't take very long. Given all the beautiful things a sax can do, do we really need to 'growl'?
@pirsquared3251
@pirsquared3251 2 жыл бұрын
I never considered the flutter tongue to be a "growl sound" like the "humming while playing" is. The flutter tongue sounds more like playing the sax into a rotating fan (which is a pretty neat sound, itself, if you've never tried it).
@peterhorah7884
@peterhorah7884 2 жыл бұрын
ahhh - i've been doing it wrong! Thank you!
@teerussounds557
@teerussounds557 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you good advice
@drewsillytoo
@drewsillytoo Жыл бұрын
how do the different techniques vary in terms of sound? most of the guides I looked at described how to do it by "gurgling" I've never seen the humming method but I did find it MUCH EASIER to learn
@charlienyc1
@charlienyc1 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! I do wish you included "The Old Castle" solo from Mussorgsky's Pictures at an Exhibition in your examples. To me, that would be the worst place to use growling. If anyone can come up with an even less appropriate use, I'd love to hear it! 😆🎷
@matthewbucktrout3291
@matthewbucktrout3291 2 ай бұрын
Hi, I wish I'd seen this video over 20 years ago (or asked someone who knew) before trying, and briefly succeeding in growling through my tenor sax. I did it by somehow making my soft palate flap/buzz. Then it was painful, then my soft palate started leaking air up the back of my nose and I haven't been able to play the sax (or other reed instruments) since. I literally last about 2 minutes before I can't stop the air leaking up the back of my nose and it hurts. I guess I must have torn my soft palate or something. I still haven't been to see an ENT doc to have them look in there. It can sound great, but it can also do serious damage if you come up with the wrong way of making the sound, like I seem to have done. I miss playing my sax.
@orangebubble8690
@orangebubble8690 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, i don’t know if you’ll answer or not but, I was looking to ask for a new mouthpiece on Christmas. I’ve been playing about 2 years and I need something that will balance marching and concert band with highest being $100 any suggestions?
@AlrotaMusic
@AlrotaMusic Жыл бұрын
1:39 Oh damn, that's Yakety Sax, isn't it? 😂
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