How to Hit '100%' of Your Thresh Hooks, and Other Skillshot Tips
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Күн бұрынFrom the simplest of basics, to the most niche of advanced techs, this a guide to Skill Shots from the perspective of a Thresh Main.
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This took a long time to make.
While it's easy to overlook the basics, this guide is written with the newest of players in mind which not only serves to bring them up to speed, but as a refresher for veterans as well.
Despite this, I will still provide timestamps below for you to quickly find the section you want, though I would ask you to watch the guide in its entirety first if you could.
More videos like this could follow, as I still have more to say about the good old Thresh hook, and ever more to share about his other abilities.
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Timestamps:
0:00 Introduction
1:41 Basic Aiming
3:20 Hooking Moving Targets
5:13 Flashing and Dashing Targets
7:10 Predicting and Mind-Reading
17:10 Tips and Trick(shots)
17:29 Minion Trickshot
19:09 Holding Hooks (and being patient)
20:10 Bait Hooks (aka Fishing)
21:14 Recall and AFK Hooks
22:52 Zoning Hooks
24:36 Fake Hook (Lantern)
24:52 Stacked Hook (Skewer)
25:27 Masked Hook (Misdirection)
26:14 Missing Is Okay
27:06 100% Accuracy Guaranteed Hooks
28:12 Chaining Hooks
28:46 Thresh's Other Abilities
29:56 Go For It
30:50 Closing
32:33 Outro
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@silvion5132 25 күн бұрын
New copy and paste every time i see someone miss a hook either from me or my opponent
@turquoisMoxium 25 күн бұрын
The guide itself is great even if i don't intend to play Thresh to greater masteries, and i really appreciate the level of detail put into it. But when i heard the Forbidden Memories OST, i knew this video was a true masterpiece.
@kenr5085 25 күн бұрын
may the algorithm gods smile upon the long awaited hook video
@mr.mc.doesntexist7693 24 күн бұрын
Something that you may have failed to mention about thresh hook in particular is where Thresh is aiming his hook during his cast time, because thresh does not look where you're casting hook until the hook is in the air which can bait a lot of people especially in botlane
@AHueman 24 күн бұрын
me when i comment before watching the video
@mr.mc.doesntexist7693 24 күн бұрын
@@AHueman the masked hook section does not talk about this tho? If so, please could you tell me when he said it? Maybe I missed something?
@Jamz16 18 күн бұрын
@@mr.mc.doesntexist7693 Yea you are right I was thinking the same thing XD. but at the same time it did take him apparently months to make so I just kind of let it slide.
@zergiusz 25 күн бұрын
"be one with Yuri" nah man "be one with Thresh Hook"
@Kikkia2018 13 күн бұрын
finally someone else that says people can also dodge lol. I used to play a ton of morgana when I was new to the game and everyone walked in a straight line, now 99% of my opponents sidestep and so do me and my teammates so I have stopped playing a lot of skillshot champs. it’s demoralizing to “miss” and be the reason why a fight is lost, one of the reasons why I never picked up thresh. but I’ve been looking for something new to play and this popped up in my recommended. thank you for this, I might try my luck today :)
@louisrobitaille5810 16 күн бұрын
Here're two things that I wished you mentioned in this video: 1. Flash, blinks and fixed distance dashes that would send you *in* a wall will send your champion on the side that is closest to the end point of the dash. This also applied to wards, traps, Shaco clone, etc. If whatever's getting placed *in* the wall, it'll be moved to the side closest to where it was placed. 2. Map height. Very few players know this, but the Summoner's Rift is actually a 2.5D map. The river is slightly below the lanes. If you shoot from the lanes to the river, you'll want to aim a little bit below where you would if they were in lane with you and vice-versa. This can result into shots that you were 100% sure should've landed or abilities going straight through people because of this. It's only by a few pixels/units, but it's enough to make you land or miss an ability.
@josephanderson4521 25 күн бұрын
As a person who almost exclusively plays hook champ supports and I wanted to include what I learned while playing. I think it cannot be stressed enough how much NOT THROWING OUT RANDOM HOOKS helps you in laning phase as support. It was mentioned in the video how you can pressure your opponents away from minions by just the threat of the hook itself and if your adc is at all decent at cs, providing them space will almost always guarantee them getting ahead in gold just by the fact they can freely focus on last hitting. As soon as you chuck out a random hook hoping for a lucky shot and miss, you are now giving the enemies the entire cooldown of your hook to basically do whatever they want unless you are very ahead. On top of this if you throw out hooks all the time the opponents will be much more attentive and more likely to dodge whereas if you just don't hook as often people are much more likely to let their guard down allowing for much easier hooks. Of course you do still have to throw out hooks but wasting your hook on bad opportunities is one of the easiest ways to lose laning phase. Hope this helps :)
@odincruzhiguera7832 13 күн бұрын
Ah, this 6 months of work really payed off, incredible video,for real and now, i learned so SO many things from this and im not even a hook player. By the way, fighting games can also help to the concept of mind reading and predicting since this is most do for everyone if you are looking for training that kind of instict
@franconunez925 18 күн бұрын
Just another type of "hook" is what I like to call "Did he just walk and downsmash!?". When I see an enemy overly paranoid about my hook and just caring about dodging that ability, calmly walk in, and flail backwards. Now(guessing you are in botlane) you have an isolated target, slowed, at melee range of Thresh and probably the carry too, and still having to deal with a Q while having this much preassure. This is probably only going to work twice but if the "hook a minion to dash" is what you use to punish an enemy that feels a little too lax, this is what I use when the enemy is overly anxious.
@andrewcarter9031 18 күн бұрын
I absolutely love switching targets mid-fight. Hook enemy 1, commit a couple auto attacks, maybe even flay. As teammates come to help, pick one of them and hook that person, commit a couple autos, hook the next guy, and so on. Not only does it feel great to be in absolute control of the fight, and looks cool, you keep the fight moving. From one enemy to the next, to the next, etc. by far, my favorite.
@edward0333 17 күн бұрын
This guide is wonderful even i am a thresh main and doing most of the tips and tricks in game. The MOST unpredictable thing is YOUR TEAMMATES, you will never be able to understand what they are doing, specially some champs can push or pull the enemy, causing the missing hooks
@KiriroShaqua 18 күн бұрын
I've been playing Thresh since i was in high school and i love this video, it really shows what an ordinary Thresh mains think when they play their champ and all of the things that were shown here are literally every aspect of what a Thresh player should do. 10/10
@Zobuyta 14 күн бұрын
me too I finally found someone that actuallys says the same stuff I do
@sylvaticriver5428 25 күн бұрын
something I've learned just by playing is that the hook hitbox is kinda big. For example, if your opponent is hugging a large wall (like bottom wall of botlane) and you're chasing, you can position yourself for a hook angle that literally accomodates every type of dodge minus flash. This is because the hook is big enough to catch them walking up/Down, but is still going in a relatively straight path to catch backdodges, stops and just walking forward. It's not a universal angle as it differs from wall to wall and champion to champion, but it's an intuition thing, might help to just hold Q to get the visual to help you visualise when the hook would cover every possible space your opponent can occupy there is also a difficult trick you can do with hitting through minions. Where if the enemy is close enough to a minion, the minion hitbox is simply wonky sometimes, and can allow a hook to hit even when someone's behind. This has to be when they're really really close though, but it's not rare for people to be that close since they feel safe behind them. Although at that point, if you're strong enough, you can just hook the minion anyway just to engage
@dorianista 21 күн бұрын
Great vid buddy, much love!
@luxxious4134 27 күн бұрын
Great video! very enjoyable
@raiden6393 14 күн бұрын
4:13 Good to see another pilot 😄
@BriefcaseCat 25 күн бұрын
One main to another, this was a great video. And I even learnt some new details about my favourite green boi. :)
@ivoryequinox5493 24 күн бұрын
ah the video of legend. For real though, this was an awesome video and honestly has kinda inspired me to revisit Thresh after a long break
@miscbogemann 23 күн бұрын
such a great video cryo! love your content always, whether it's league or something else (ultrakill)
@grandpapancake9462 24 күн бұрын
So right at the beginning, I thought I was about to get treated to some mobile add shenanigans in terms of animation nonsense. Was I disappointed? No, but I still want it.
@badduhainlad4631 25 күн бұрын
Crazy how much intuition plays into all. Still learned a lot and Hope i can improve with my Green hook boi.
@aldroydf35 18 күн бұрын
Honestly, the best strat to hitting the hook is to just believe the hook will never miss because he's a good boi and would never let you down
@LunarEagle96 28 күн бұрын
Let's go, more Cryo!
@Kerm_ST1 18 күн бұрын
I would argue it’s more important to throw more thresh hooks in the early game to get a feel for your opponents reaction time and dodge patterns. Lower elo players also tend to have a preferred dodge direction I’ve also seen alot of players that didn’t know you can press S to stop your character. Blitz I would hold more because it’s more of a threat and uses more mana.
@j0hnyz238 19 күн бұрын
honestly as someone who went from mid main to jgl main and now supp main and playing hook supps a lot the last few months ive been feeling drained and my performance has drastically got worse this video helped me pick up those champs again ty cryo for this guide
@mvovo8698 24 күн бұрын
I think one of the best characters to learn long range skill shots is Rek'Sai. I main her and throughout my time I spend playing her I saw that my skill shots have improved a lot [I used to miss Morde Qs]. It's one thing when you can constantly track your enemies and you see them it's totally different story when you get Rek'Sai 1 second interval radar. I learned to predict my opponent's movement and I can't even count how many times I sniped low health champ at maximum range. Ofc you will get juked and enemies will dash but if you know champion you're playing against you can try to predict that and just hope. I know Rek'Sai burrowed Qs aren't that deadly like thresh hooks but it's still some damage so landing it still depletes enemy resources and annoys them. I think it's pretty good practice and if you ask me what is the best place to learn that I'd say go play Top or go wild with AP Aram Sai. I know I know, it's much easier to hit anyone on Aram but 1: It's the only place where you can play AP Rek'Sai and be useful. 2: Satisfaction is also a part of learning and that burrowed Q AP bomb it quite satisfying to land. As Cryo said, don't be afraid to miss, your miss may force enemy to move into even more dangerous skill shot. And if you land your Q on a low HP enemy you can reward yourself with that nice R execute.
@spykeep 18 күн бұрын
ayy nice hooks mate you sure are getting better at it :P
@specificocean4176 21 күн бұрын
there is another hook type that i use pretty often and dont see anyone talk about (possibly cus it rarely works). its using the long wind up to bait people into believing they are safe cus they cc'd you, like milio landing Q and then walking up slighly cus they didnt realise the hook was casted before the ball hit, the later you cast the hook the better. and even tho i said it rarely works, the amount of times it does work is pretty suprising
@CryoBeat 19 күн бұрын
Can definitely confirm this is always great and worth doing even if to just partially "negate" the stun duration. Nothing like catching a Lillia mid-W when they think you'll be fast asleep.
@hail3185 12 күн бұрын
This is more applicable in lane but it can work outside of it as well, just throw out a hook a few times in a consistent manner, you can get two things, conditioning on how you are going to throw your hooks and bait them to keep dodge in a certain way, and you can see how they like to dodge, most people tend to how a preferred side to dodge and if you can roughly keep track of the odds of them dodging in a specific way you can increase your chance of hitting future hooks, really helps in team fights where people dodge based on instincts.
@Miak0oo 17 күн бұрын
Been a thresh main for over a year now, seeing this video truly shows the growth that I’ve developed, cause these are the skills I learned on my journey on becoming a thresh main
@raslentalbi3292 17 күн бұрын
thresh main for 4 years and still miss the easiest hooks on earth
@ngngye 25 күн бұрын
I feel like right after the part about masked hooks you should have included the concept of conditioning/ desensitization, which is the high elo “wiggling” you see. The idea is that your opponent will know your hook/root/charm/whatever range and will move away when you move up. So you move to them then away, to them then away, and when they get used to you being close to them and not throwing out your cc is when you break that pattern and use it.
@CryoBeat 25 күн бұрын
I actually do this often just as you've described but didn't think to detail that! Definitely a useful technique to catch players, and glad to know I'm suddenly high elo, and that it's called "wiggling".
@ngngye 25 күн бұрын
@@CryoBeat It’s one of those things you understand intuitively and eventually becomes second nature. As an ahri main, the wiggles is one of the first things I look for in a lane opponent’s neutral - if they don’t do it, or make very long retreats when I walk up to them, I intuitively understand they’re not a midlaner and so I can bully them out of early cs and exp. And if they’re an irelia or kat that *does* do the wiggles, then I understand they’re high elo enough to know about conditioning, and will adjust my play to match. There are other things like objective rotations, map state and threat level assessment that lower elo players don’t think about that might be useful in developing an understanding of macro, but aren’t very useful for a video on the micro of landing skillshots.
@nogamenolife9182 13 күн бұрын
Another thing to pay attention is player habits. Best way to dodge a skillshot is going perpendicular to that skillshots trajectory. So going downwards or upwards in the lane is generally the best way to dodge and players will prefer one over another unconsciously.
@destroyermlpl2791 24 күн бұрын
Great guide honestly, I would like to point something out but I just can't. The video had good pacing and covered pretty much everything. 10/10 would recomend
@oogabooga4108 24 күн бұрын
The thresh hook knows where it lands at all times. It knows this because it knows where it misses. By subtracting where it lands from where it misses, or where it misses from where it lands (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the thresh hook from a position where it misses to a position where it lands, and arriving at a position where it missed, it now lands. Consequently, the position where it lands, is now the position that it missed, and it follows that the position that it landed, is now the position that it misses. In the event that the position that it lands in is not the position that it missed, the system has acquired a variation, the variation being the difference between where the thresh hook lands, and where it misses. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the thresh hook must also know where it landed. The thresh hook guidance computer scenario works as follows. Because a variation has modified some of the information the thresh hook has obtained, it is not sure just where it lands. However, it is sure where it misses, within reason, and it knows where it landed. It now subtracts where it should land from where it misses, or vice-versa, and by differentiating this from the algebraic sum of where it shouldn't land, and where it landed, it is able to obtain the deviation and its variation, which is called error.deviation and its variation, which is called error.
@seabass6874 18 күн бұрын
mans wrote a whole paragraph to say trial and error xD ( gotta hit that essay mark somehow :P )
@amorim_4566 19 күн бұрын
One hook i love to use but it's pretty hard to land is to try to send the hook between minions or jungle monsters. It's really hard to find a situation where you can use it, but when see an enemy in an opening between 2 caster minions, I just send it. If the hook makes it through the minions, the enemy most likely, won't be able to dodge, since they think they are safe "behind the minions". It also makes your team think that you are a god and can make the enemy team think you have scripts. Btw, loved the video :)
@Rocksaplenty 10 күн бұрын
Flash on F I think stems from those of us that played a lot of warcraft/starcraft, and with DOTA coming from warcraft, it translates! The hotkeys in these games are usually the first or second letter of the action/unit's name (Exceptions exist... But not that many!) so the habit sticks.
@gaevlos1281 19 күн бұрын
Another thing that's feels important for me is things like Rengar passive. Does the opponent have an ability to situationally gain more mobility than what they otherwise would have. Nida brush speed is another that comes to mind, or Taliyah rock sliding on the topic of wall hugging ^^. Also I think you should've gone over buffering cast time into being cc'd but either way a really good and informational video.
@TopCurls 25 күн бұрын
Thank you based Cryo
@furkankahramanoglu5202 25 күн бұрын
I sometimes miss some easy hooks that may not end up as a kill to make my opponents think that I am an idiot and I hit it when it counts. It works very well especially in lower elos
@jesulaswastaken 24 күн бұрын
Really good Guide, my ass may have quit league but this will prob help for Eternal return too
@sRoStYl4 11 күн бұрын
Im a toplane Main so i dont play hook Champs but still great in depth Video i learned alot
@icebat10 22 күн бұрын
Thanks, now I can finally win as Zeri
@_Necromancer_ 24 күн бұрын
5:25, i feel attacked
@gonathi117 25 күн бұрын
Thank you
@JoaoPedroPT696 Күн бұрын
As a Thresh player I can honestly say that it's not me that hooks the enemy, it's the enemy that hits my hook. Also, don't stress too much about the hook, Flay is where the money is.
@Zobuyta 14 күн бұрын
I do bait wards over walls in the jungle sometimes before seeing an enemy so they think I had placed that ward much before and they dont even think about the chance of me staying
@johndadatsis3632 23 күн бұрын
I have heard the recall hook. The deep terror skin recall starts like a hook (his first skin I think) and many people get startled by that. I don't have that skin and I don't rly like it but it's another attempt to hook enemies
@Flainxps 15 күн бұрын
May i ask how did you get the thresh models for animation plz 🙏🙏🙏
@tienhuytruong1362 12 күн бұрын
i usually tell my friend to play other champion to know how it's feel to play agaist thresh , that why when you play thrsh you'll understand what that champion gonna do next more .
@RussianSpy4632 25 күн бұрын
Great vid, I'm actually climbing on thresh in ranked. Careful I don't pass you, rn I'm the best thresh in bronze 1 NA. I smell a long line of thresh tips (possibly new items guide?!?!)
@EclairCat 18 күн бұрын
"Flash should be on D... but some people are weird" Me : .... HEY
@CrazyPlayerA3 18 күн бұрын
yeah he misspelled F somehow...
@thana3441 25 күн бұрын
As soon as I heard the Yugioh Forbidden memories soundtrack I gave it a like
@ericzache3636 19 күн бұрын
This start remembered of a game I played yesterday that a garen player called me trash bc I missed 2 hooks the whole game
@andro9044 17 күн бұрын
16:30 damn that hook was hot
@OongaBoongaMan69 24 күн бұрын
I personally have an issue hitting backwards flays. I always angle them weird.
@erikaicarman3184 18 күн бұрын
Aim at their feet. With any and all skillshots. A champions selection radius is essentially a 2d circle on the ground, understanding that circle, or seeing it and visualizing it in game can very much help. In most cases where a skillshot whiffs, its not elevation or a bug, the champions visual model just does not well represent what you can hit. Cassio and Asol are the worst of this imo because they walk with their head so far forwards, when they 180 it implies a larger movement.
@clreyawesome3527 25 күн бұрын
I can assure you stuns are not a 100% guarantee hook hit. the amount of times I missed a basically stationary target is uh... thresh main worthy to say the least lol
@TURKROX 24 күн бұрын
W Video
@vincent3363 14 күн бұрын
This guide can be usefull for nidalee too since her spear travels more or less the same speed 😮
@chaffeek8496 13 күн бұрын
Ddlc music scare me😅 But ty for guide!!!
@Dontstealmyidentity 24 күн бұрын
5:23 Did you know that flash has +20 units of range when on F? Its very LoL spaghetti code, there are some good videos explaining it
@ragnarooz5721 21 күн бұрын
Gwen hook when 👀
@celloj3703 18 күн бұрын
Bad Veigars press R and good Veigars press R harder because it deals more damage
@Manzanoide_OG 18 күн бұрын
Mix up the things you do every so often, play styles are a thing, like ways of dodging or using skill shots, it can throw of people really badly. Speaking from experience from both sides 😅
@truebootheghost5191 19 күн бұрын
Just don’t miss
@Kofja 4 күн бұрын
Missing is okay, and every shot you don't take is a miss.
@flow1194 18 күн бұрын
my flash is on F my F is where most people's E is
@osterhai 16 күн бұрын
I have my flash on F
@findlayrutherford 16 күн бұрын
bro I need this for Milio lol im awful with his Q
@magnov983 17 күн бұрын
Comment technology for algorithm mechanic
@ollowainhd5531 19 күн бұрын
wp
@Zobuyta 14 күн бұрын
Teamon Karanfil bey nasılsınınız channel member olarak
@lennonchahivec-schneider6722 25 күн бұрын
Bababooey
@axelwillian7668 25 күн бұрын
NOT YOU USING DOKI DOKI OST PLEASEEEEE NOOOO WHYYY OMGGG WHYYY AWWWW :(
@ajgbeat912 28 күн бұрын
Instructions unclear, have hooked teammate and now am being ganked In seriousness great guide Cryo
@lugalnt2783 24 күн бұрын
breeding will be daily
@vllajko306 15 күн бұрын
Im totally not watching this because I've missed one too many Riven windslashes. Yes, i know it's 4 meter wide ability, don't judge
@UltimateGround 28 күн бұрын
This 15:12 moment cracked me up lmao
@MalditoTovam 22 күн бұрын
99% of hook mono champs quit before hitting their flash predict hook!!! Keep gambling!!!!
@St_bane1 25 күн бұрын
ITS F FOR FLASH I WILL NOT TAKE QUESTIONS
@Terelled 25 күн бұрын
Jsdjfjfuufjr
@boogaan8759 15 күн бұрын
F Flash
@JordyVibing 18 күн бұрын
F = Flash
@VergiliosSpatulas 14 күн бұрын
F is for Flash D is for Dumb
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