How to Identify AFB (American Foulbrood)

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How to Identify AFB (American Foulbrood) - The Bush Bee Man

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The Bush Bee Man

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@TheBushBeeMan 5 жыл бұрын

Legally you have to report AFB in South Australia and then once confirmed the hives need to be destroyed. We're sorry if this episode is a little upsetting but it's an important topic.

@slavkei 5 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry you had to put some of your girls down. Believe me, us Yanks would rather be without AFB too!

@clergyurge 5 жыл бұрын

AFB was first differentiated in the USA from common foulbrood. A very unfortunate nomenclature indeed, many think that AFB began here, but the origin can’t be determined and it is worldwide. Great condolences for the loss of your wonderful girls, it is a crying shame for sure.

@justwinks1553 5 жыл бұрын

The Bush Bee Man hugs and my condolences. It is hearbreaking. Nature makes us do necessary and sad things. This was better for your other hives. At least that is what I keep saying. *tears*

@hazelhazelton1346 5 жыл бұрын

@@clergyurge In Norwegian, they're named "open" and "closed" foulbrood. :)

@piggydust8752 4 жыл бұрын

The Bush Bee Man I’m sorry for your loss 😔 but you live in SA I just moved there for a sheep feed lot

@eezybeez5705 5 жыл бұрын

Having also had a case of AFB myself lately I know that it is not much of a fun job. If more beekeepers speak openly about then such openess will become normal. Nice job.

@BDORR93 5 жыл бұрын

I cried a bit with you Mark. As a beekeeper, I know how much work goes into maintaining bees and preventing disease inside the colony. I'm sorry you had to do it, but I appreciate your transparency and taking care of it properly.

@lizarddrinking1449 5 жыл бұрын

Did I hear correctly that someone went through your hives without you knowing and that is how you eventually found the AFB? Thank you for showing this … I'm checking my hives today just in case. Keeping any animal requires you to take the hard decisions with the good. Thank you for your continued entertainment and information. On a side... your videos helped my mother and I through a very difficult time. My dad had a bleed on the brain and I showed my very proper mother these videos in hospital whilst we were waiting for Dad to get out of surgery. She laughed and laughed at your swearing... thank you. Dad is fully recovered.

@CoachLexie 5 жыл бұрын

Really sad Mark, glad you showed the 'shitty' side of the business though and hope you got it all in the one go! No matter how hard, it's important for all the rest of Australia's bee ladies to do the right thing - and good messages to those with one hive etc in the cities near all the points of entry into our country - they can be our 'canaries' so to speak cheers and hugs :)

@roycarter6235 4 жыл бұрын

Someone sold me four hives with AFB. It spread through my other hives like wildfire. I had to destroy the lot. I stopped beekeeping for over 4 years. I'm back now much wiser.

@joncotn 2 ай бұрын

That’s an horrific story. Glad you’re back beekeeping again 👍

@pix5 5 жыл бұрын

Fire and irradiation is really the only way to kill the spores. If you're worried about the hive tool then it might be worthwhile dangling it through the fire briefly, though it'll ruin the paint

@eezybeez5705 5 жыл бұрын

you can kill afb on tools by putting them in the oven at 100degreesC for 30 minutes

@hazelhazelton1346 5 жыл бұрын

If it is any consolation, there is reason to think that measures like this work. In Norway, we had- like everybody else- a number of cases of AFB every year until we went full Nazi on it. We started sanitizing all hives that had the disease. A few years later, we started sanitizing every bee yard that had the disease. Now it's been more than a decade since we had an outbreak. It's miserable while it's going on, but it looks like we got healthier bees for it.

@gangewifre 5 жыл бұрын

I'm SO sorry. As an aspiring beekeeper, I really appreciate you showing us the nitty-gritty.

@fuckoff299 5 жыл бұрын

hey mate i feel for you. I just wanted to point out the correct methods for disposal of a hive infected with AFB. The bees should be locked up at night so you have all the bees you can in the box. Then on the same night apply the cup of petrol and close lid. Now you have time to decide whether to burn or irradiate. boxes (as you have done) should be burned in a pit to contain honey and wax, then buried at least 30cm under the earth. With regards to tools and equipment, the only sure way is irradiation, for steel hive tools you can place them in a 200c oven for 30mins to sterilize. All the best mate

@-Jesse.C 5 жыл бұрын

Sorry for the loss you had mate.

@joachimbramson1991 5 жыл бұрын

is this the bob ross of bees?

@mimib3396 5 жыл бұрын

No, that would be Frederick Dunn from Pennsylvania. Check him out.

@JoanneLorriman 5 жыл бұрын

Sorry that you guys had to go through this. At least you caught it at a stage where you didn't lose everything.

@reapermansoldholdensixmech8675 8 ай бұрын

I had a quiet teary seeing you having to do this mate.

@priyacharichakravarti6868 4 жыл бұрын

A very important episode about confronting every beekeeper’s worst day. Really felt your torment. 😭😭😭

@Saratonnin 5 жыл бұрын

This is a super sad video today. So sorry to hear that you got afb. Here's to hoping summer is good for you guys and you get some great honey this season.

@LordInter 4 жыл бұрын

such a wonderful lovely man, even when you're sad you're still cracking jokes and being funny, still trying to keep your spirits up, im sure he is but if your son takes after you i bet he's very proud! :)

@johnpaynter4509 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for an open and clear episode. Having had this problem myself I understand the feeling. The more we talk about this problem the better chance we have to get it under control. Keep up the good work.

@susanmarsh2856 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for being open and honest and sharing when your heart must have been hurting knowing the repercussions that could be ahead. Farmers live lives of ups and downs, feasts and famines, reliant on Mother Nature. Sending our best wishes for a speedy recovery and a great 2019.

@loislangley2975 5 жыл бұрын

What an informative video. My heart is with you. Thank you for your honest and caring for your bees and ours. Wishing you a quick recovery.

@baggysmalls 5 жыл бұрын

Sorry you had to do this, I can see how passionate you are about the ladies, hope you've contained it mate

@tomcrynock37 5 жыл бұрын

It’s unfortunate you have to contend with this aspect of beekeeping. At least you caught it early enough to hopefully stop it. Thank you for all you do. Showing the good and bad.

@mia-beee 5 жыл бұрын

This is so sad, I’m sorry you have to do this. Such a painful task to undertake

@rabijassi2421 5 жыл бұрын

You’ve got a wild colony there with AFB , you could take a nuc without a Queen and try to breed up your own queen from that area, it will be more resistant to afb

@shohoku10 5 жыл бұрын

Sorry for the loss, thank you for the educational video

@jdawgz3971 4 жыл бұрын

im not sure how this came up on my recommended feed, but i have to say, this is the most Straya'n video i have ever seen haha! good on ya mate!

@Baker-tx7yg 3 жыл бұрын

"Bless you Americans" HAHAHA !!! LOL !! You cracked me up with that bit of sarcastic humor !! Lots of Love from Texas !! Keep it up. I love your channel !!

@Tucher97 5 жыл бұрын

foulbrood could be a possibility be a mixture of various other strands of foulbrood from other parts of hte world and humans getting the idea of making genetically modified super bees sort of well a shot in the foot

@jordanbovee386 5 жыл бұрын

This is terribly sad im sorry for your loss mate. I hope its eradicated at your farm keep updating!

@TammieYoMammie 3 жыл бұрын

Oh, my heart goes out to you! So sad and so hard! But thank you so much for sharing your experience for all of us to learn from. Sometimes life just sucks! Thanks for the lesson! I've subscribed!

@DatTheDragon 4 жыл бұрын

You can use just a fire pit I thing I’m not very experienced in bee keeping but I know how to burn stuff

@MistyMoorsHomestead 5 жыл бұрын

Some days are good and some are shit. Hopefully tomorrow will be good. Sorry you had a shit one today.

@Guysm1l3y 5 жыл бұрын

That sucks and doubly so because it's clear how much you care about your bees. But the rule about it is because people naturally don't want to take the necessary step. You saying "it's only a few cells" is like saying "it's only a little bit of cancer". That's a dangerous line of thinking and it's why the rules are so harsh. Still a massive bummer though.

@TheBushBeeMan 5 жыл бұрын

We totally agree and hence the action we have been taking. The only way to get on top of it is to be proactive and destroy the hives even if it's only early stages.

@hotaru8309 4 жыл бұрын

It's actually kind of a beautiful thing that the mind does. Even knowing the truth with a few hard pieces of evidence, you just keep seeing the good parts. I spent a lot of time in the ward of a childrens hospital and you see a lot of it. There's a lot of kids that know the truth and keep on going with that fact. I had a friend that had a bad blood infection that they just couldnt get rid of. We went back to her room to play. Mother's talked in the background. You caught a bit of it, through words and faces. She has a nasty little bugger that they cant seem to get rid of. She's having a good time. She has a bad infection Yeah but she's smiling She's gone through 5 rounds of different antibiotics Yeah but she's playing. They're not sure if there's anything else they can do if this doesn't work Yeah but her color doesn't seem that bad. Yeah but... there's a lot of trying to rationalize it. Honestly all that good in the face of such situations and sometimes hard lines, even if you knew the outcome, I welcome it. It's a wonderful thing to want better, even when you've accepted how it will end. Even when you know better. I love that part of humans.

@NolaSpiersMitchell-gu5iu Жыл бұрын

I’m glad you did show us I was sick for you

@josephkrug8579 4 жыл бұрын

Its not paranoia if they really are out to get you. Sorry to see it happen, but thanks for sharing the good and the bad.

@michaelholcombe2552 5 жыл бұрын

Very sad day for you Bush bee man! i feel for you, however right thing to do but always hurts to see it happen!

@rivuletflyfishing905 5 жыл бұрын

Sad to see mate, hope you stopped it there. How'd your poly hive cope with the petrol? Melted one of mine

@SuperBuickregal 5 жыл бұрын

Could you do a pro and con in regard to the Paradise polystyrene hives? Thanks Tom

@privatebubba8876 5 жыл бұрын

Just to give you an idea of the cost to irradiate here in the USA (Pennsylvania) it costs about $177.78/pallet 2018 pricing (full or partial) based on a full capacity equipment run of 7 or more pallets (standard pallet is 40″x48″) 1 pallet can accommodate 42 deeps @ $4.10 per box and 6 mediums on top all with frames and comb @ $3.70 per box or 66 mediums on a pallet for $2.70 per box. So it seems that the hobby beekeeper really isn't given the choice to irradiate for just a few hives.

@GreenAppelPie 5 жыл бұрын

What you wanna call an eye dropper is called a pipette.

@hellraiser666666 5 жыл бұрын

Very interesting. Love the content, keep it up!

@ldawn7019 5 жыл бұрын

*hugs*

@backyardbeekeepingmelbourn8861 2 жыл бұрын

Breaks my heart killing them but as you said it’s to protect the rest of the healthy ones.. feel for you mate….

@shegocrazy 3 жыл бұрын

Sad day. Did you notice a smell from the hive?

@jacqulineirons1601 5 жыл бұрын

Commiserations guys, as said the other night I have disposed of 5 hives recently. It's interesting what different countries and even states (here in Aus) allow for treatment of infected material. As for euthanising the colony I tried a few option, pumped propane gas into the hive which killed 98% quickly however remaining were extremely angry. Tried 2ltrs of dry ice which got 99%. Even had to do the soapy water tub way to reduce numbers on one hive as at night they would beard out the front all night. Don't try to put them to sleep in a deep freezer as it takes way too long even with the lid off. Didn't want to use petrol as it contaminates the honey, so from now on extract honey 1st and use petrol as it's the fastest way. Have also heard of people using superheated steam chambers and also immersing boxes in chlorine for some time to clean up gear.

@keithpadbury9818 5 жыл бұрын

Chlorine immersion doesn't work. The only recommended methods in Australia are irradiation, hot wax dipping (must be done for a set time and temperature) or disposal by burning.

@corryrounsevell5548 5 жыл бұрын

You realise also the honey is infected with spores making transmission possible..

@jacqulineirons1601 5 жыл бұрын

Tasmania allow the use of antibiotics, and to do a shook swarm. As well as using chlorine to sanitise hives, but then don't recommend scorching

@jacqulineirons1601 5 жыл бұрын

Corry Rounsevell , AFB contaminated honey is still able to be sold

@corryrounsevell5548 5 жыл бұрын

Aware of that but always a risk to extract and spread it around, something new beekeeper may not be aware of..

@justinmills8084 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your bad days to show all is not Rose's in beekeeping.

@ualuuanie 4 жыл бұрын

Can't he use disinfectant to wash the boxes and frames instead of burning them? I mean like soak them in a bath for sometime and let it dry?

@NolaSpiersMitchell-gu5iu Жыл бұрын

Omg sorry about that hope you can contain them

@baazigaj9125 2 жыл бұрын

can it be salvage with wax dipping?

@TrickyTrev01 3 жыл бұрын

Although sad to see, it good to know what to do. Keep up your great work, thanks for sharing this vital information. Tricky Trev 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝

@jeremiahyeo5863 Жыл бұрын

I’m sad with you mate. Thanks for doing the right thing. The right thing doesn’t always feel so great, does it?

@justinmills8084 5 жыл бұрын

Sad day for beekeepers when you get AFB.

@Med1na2012 5 жыл бұрын

What about virkon s? I used to use it for my pigeons a while back? It’s pretty powerful stuff?

@shovelrickshovelhead8713 5 жыл бұрын

I’m felling for ya , fucking lost for words I am right now

@gradyceruso7108 4 жыл бұрын

Y do u have to burn the entire hive? Y not just the frames after u kill off the bees some how? I want to set up a hive in my yard and a lil nervous don't want to hurt them or have them relocate.

@wazza33racer Жыл бұрын

The native American Indians have a saying "for something to live, something must die"...........its a reality that cant be avoided. Containing disease is for the best in the longer run.

@001lostagain 5 жыл бұрын

But what was in the Camp oven??? I have to know. lol

@judysummers4178 5 жыл бұрын

Question. Where did it come from?

@kathyhathaway8823 2 жыл бұрын

Well when you have to do it you have to do it but it is still a kick in the teeth 😢😢😢

@Not_all_as_it_seems 2 жыл бұрын

Sorry for your loss mr beeman. Thank you for looking after our biodiversity!!

@celtgunn9775 5 жыл бұрын

Mark, I'm so sorry about your ladies having to be flamed! 😪 AFB is no joke. At all! Hopefully you'll be able to recover from this, losing the hives & bees is not cheap at all. Do you use essential oils for your bees, to help with their immune systems? You really should! ~Blessings to you 🕊

@franciscohernandez9369 5 жыл бұрын

*Military Taps Plays In The Background*

@simondent2196 Жыл бұрын

The mites Did come in.

@dd1394 3 жыл бұрын

Sorry this happened to you, thank you for doing the honourable thing. ❤️

@thedr00 5 жыл бұрын

Just curious, if you had plastic hives, could they be disinfected or would they also need to be destroyed?

@hotaru8309 4 жыл бұрын

They would still need to be destroyed.

@plains12 5 жыл бұрын

cant you dip your frames in hot wax?

@KnollNomad 5 жыл бұрын

Sorry

@aliceholbert1246 3 жыл бұрын

❤❤❤

@TotallyAGoblin 5 жыл бұрын

Sorry about your bees =(

@helenjanelowden8572 5 жыл бұрын

Crap but you have to do it feel for you . Luv the videos keep them coming 😀

@RetentiveCloud 5 жыл бұрын

I really hope this is the last time you gotta do this. That really sucks.

@LordBaldie 5 жыл бұрын

I wonder how the powers that be can order you to burn polystyrene?

@corryrounsevell5548 5 жыл бұрын

Its done at night

@privatebubba8876 5 жыл бұрын

Yes, they can.

@TheBushBeeMan 5 жыл бұрын

we didn't burn the polystyrene there going to get sent for other treatment

@privatebubba8876 5 жыл бұрын

@@TheBushBeeMan What's the cost for Gamma treatment in Australia?

@doop00 5 жыл бұрын

That sucks must feel sad having to do this.

@rhondasavva2500 4 жыл бұрын

Oh boys I’m crying with you or for you very very sad.

@jasonpatterson8091 5 жыл бұрын

Sorry, this sucks. Thank you for showing the process though; fun videos are great, but ugly videos are probably more important in the long road.

@teh_major4106 5 жыл бұрын

Sorry sight indeed.... my sympathies mate :(

@MReynolds101 5 жыл бұрын

Why couldn’t you just freeze them

@hotaru8309 4 жыл бұрын

When under stress, the disease causing organisms creates spores that can survive the freezer. They retreat behind very effective defenses. You have to break down the molecules they're made of, like how burning destroys dna.

@shegocrazy 3 жыл бұрын

Freezing doesn't kill the spores.

@SuperBuickregal 5 жыл бұрын

Big goverment AKA big brother when it comes to regulations.

@privatebubba8876 5 жыл бұрын

The is such an ignorant comment from someone who doesn't know the ramifications of not destroying the equipment and bees. You would rather see the whole population of honey bees to collapse?