How to Identify Amplifier Power Transformer Leads

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Uncle Doug

Uncle Doug

9 жыл бұрын

This video is posted in response to a frequently asked question regarding how to identify the leads of an audio amplifier power transformer. Several methods are explained and demonstrated, including: Color of Leads, Twisted Leads, Wire Gauge, Resistance between Leads, Identifying Center Taps, and Voltage Output of Lead Pairs. Rusty and I hope this will enable viewers to accurately identify up to 11 different power transformer leads.
NOTE: Only 2-wire 120VAC primary power transformers are discussed. Diagrams are available at the Triode USA site for transformers with 120/240VAC primaries and four primary leads, which must be connected either in series (240) or parallel (120).

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@missingsock18
@missingsock18 3 жыл бұрын
Love your laid-back tone and sense of humor. I've got a box of mystery transformers that I can now get to work mapping.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, MS. Good luck with your project :)
@lumpy2080
@lumpy2080 9 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to say that I have watched several videos online but yours 'clicked' with me. I identified the primary and secondary sides, center taps and which leads were the common, 4ohm & 8ohm on my output transformer! Thank you so much for your great videos!
@mickel7b
@mickel7b Жыл бұрын
This is a great video; thanks Uncle Doug! Your videos are still helping people 8 years later!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it, NN.
@amimaster
@amimaster 10 ай бұрын
They always will. :)
@SPWoz
@SPWoz 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for sharing your expertise in the field - your postings save us individuals (who are new to the field) many hours of frustration - as well as keeping us safe. I did watch and build the current limiter, and it works like a charm... Happy New Year!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 4 жыл бұрын
You're quite welcome, SP. I'm glad the videos are helpful. HNY to you all.
@agylub
@agylub 8 жыл бұрын
I have never seen such useful information in dozens of books and hundreds of magazines that I have read. Thank you very much
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 8 жыл бұрын
+agylub You're welcome. Please watch some of our other videos when you get a chance :)
@unhinged17
@unhinged17 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for posting this. Us younger guys feeling our way through the dark with this appreciate all you more experienced guys, your knowledge, and your sharing this with us. I have surplus and junk PTs and OTs, and you really helped me out with identifying the unknowns and turning what were paperweights into useful electronics!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 9 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Jason. Comments such as yours make this process both rewarding and worthwhile. I'm glad the information within the video was useful and would invite you to watch the other 110 videos that I have posted, in hopes that they may be equally interesting and helpful :)
@mixolydian2010
@mixolydian2010 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Doug and Rusty. Nice logical layered approach from what is needed by the circuit to confirmation with both resistance and voltage. Great explanation as always. Take care. Colin
@JjMn1000
@JjMn1000 3 жыл бұрын
I know I’m very late but this was a helpful vid
@ollikivela2804
@ollikivela2804 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you Uncle Doug for all your informative videos. I watched all these before I started to build my first full tube amp.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 9 жыл бұрын
Olli Kivelä You're welcome, Olli. Best of luck with your project :)
@rayfisher1564
@rayfisher1564 Жыл бұрын
Great instructional videos! Thank you. I wish you had been the instructor in my Freshman AC classes! To this day (many years later) I still have to use reference material for some very "basic" troubleshooting. I'm glad I found your videos -- and kept my old textbooks! Thanks again!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug Жыл бұрын
We're glad you found us, too, RO :)
@dougtaylor7724
@dougtaylor7724 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing like watching Uncle Doug using his Nicola Tesla channeling techniques. Great information!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Doug. Glad you enjoyed it.
@huberttremaine8343
@huberttremaine8343 9 жыл бұрын
As always another great video! They will erect a statue of you and Rusty somewhere someday in remembrance of your undying posting of "the best" informational videos of all times. What a great pup! Thanks
@JimButler1234567890
@JimButler1234567890 3 ай бұрын
Excellent video - thank you for posting. A few details that the novice may need to know: 1) After energizing the primary and when taking voltage measurements of each secondary, the voltages measured at each secondary will be higher than you may expect. The reason is because the transformer is not under load. Once the transformer is placed in a circuit and given the prescribed load conditions, the voltages will fall to what you would expect to see. For example, that 370v RMS high voltage, will load down to something closer to 350v when the transformer is placed in service. That 6.3v secondary will probably measure something closer to 7v RMS on the bench, but come down to right around 6.3v RMS under expected load conditions. 2) I will double-emphasize what Uncle Doug said about not getting into a big hurry, and to please use a current limiter.. If you goof and put line voltage on (for example) one of the filiment secondaries (like the 6.3 or the 5v secondary), the transformer will not have enough inductive reactance on that winding to limit the current. At best you will probably throw a circuit breaker in your house, or at worst you may over-heat the transformer and destroy it. 3) If you find an old transformer like this, it may be perfectly good, but it may also have been removed from service for a reason. One such reason might be that it already failed from over-load. When transformers fail from over-load, often times what happens is that either the primary or the high-voltage secondary will develop shorts between the windings. When this happens, it can draw excessive current just by having the primary plugged into the voltages it was designed for, unless the primary already failed open. If this happens, you will get excessive current even when you are doing everything correctly. It never hurts to put an amp meter in series with your primary so that you know what the transformer is doing. Also one caveat and disclaimer is that if you don't know enough about electronics to understand how to connect an amp meter in the primary circuit to measure the current, then you probably don't need to be dabbling with something like a supply transformer anyway, and should leave this kind of activity to people who possess the knowledge and skill to do this kind of work safely.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing these excellent safety suggestions and observations, Jim. We really appreciate your helpful input.
@zaugitude
@zaugitude 3 жыл бұрын
This is excellent! So much insight and so well explained. I paused at about 2/3 to check and was glad to see you are still making videos; subscribed.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, BP.......for your nice comments and for subscribing :)
@bullthrush
@bullthrush 9 жыл бұрын
A very clear and easy to follow explanation. Superb hand acting as usual, and good camera work from Rusty. Thank you.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks, BT. We appreciate your kind appraisal :)
@pdimor
@pdimor 4 жыл бұрын
This is the clearest explanation i've found, thank you.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful, PP.
@JjMn1000
@JjMn1000 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@tonywainhouse163
@tonywainhouse163 3 жыл бұрын
Finally... a teacher who knows how to unlock these electronics mysteries, for us newbies. Thank you Uncle Doug for these many tutorials - the quality of which I have been unable to find elsewhere. In terms of your invitation for further topic requests - and related to this particular video on amp power transformers - I'd like to see another angle on this topic. That is where there is a need to replace an amp's power transformer with a new one, but the schematic [where available] does not specify windings values. I'm confronted with this exact scenario just now, whereby I would like to convert my 120V amp to 240V - and the current transformer does not carry a spare set of windings for the purpose. Exactly how do I confirm the power transformer specifications for my existing amp to a potential PT supplier? A topic for a further session, perhaps? Again, heartfelt thanks for these invaluable tutorials. Uncle Doug, you rock - and you are pretty handy with that ax! :)
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 3 жыл бұрын
This topic is covered in my Supro Tremo-Verb video series, Tony. You add up all the necessary voltages and current demands of your circuit and then find a power transformer that exceeds them all.
@michaeldabrams
@michaeldabrams 8 жыл бұрын
Possibly the most helpful video Ive watched on youtube. Thank you Uncle Doug
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 8 жыл бұрын
+Michael Abrams You're welcome, Michael. I have posted over 125 other, similar videos that you may find interesting. Thanks for watching.
@garyadkisson4790
@garyadkisson4790 9 жыл бұрын
Always look forward to your videos. Full of good information. Thank You, and Rusty whose steady hand on the camera as always is commendable.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, Gary. Rusty gives you a "high four" (dew claws don't count :)
@BenPrevo
@BenPrevo 9 жыл бұрын
good to hear you again -- as you know with a 6.3 v winding with c/t some tube rectifiers can be used -- 6X5 EZ81 etc...
@thome1547
@thome1547 9 жыл бұрын
Hi Uncle Doug, great video, good explanation and, as usual, solid Rusty camera work.Thanks for sharing.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 9 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, TM. Thanks so much. Rusty did a great job, but I wish he wouldn't run and hide whenever I get out the brush to groom him :)
@Alext-wx7hr
@Alext-wx7hr 4 жыл бұрын
Hey uncle doug! stumbled across your channel recently because im a young person thats self taught in electronics, and i saw this video on how to identify transformer leads, Very informative and makes identifying the leads easier, i have a bunch of salavged power transformers and i thank you for uploding this vid!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, LW. We're glad you found our channel and hope you enjoy our videos.
@gregglasgow9432
@gregglasgow9432 5 жыл бұрын
I am a retired electrician with a smidgen of electronic knowledge and am enjoying learning more. Your method of explanation is excellent for novice or experienced person. Thank you for your succinct method of instruction and I am enjoying any of your videos that I can find. When I wrote my qualification exams, I was only allowed to use a slide rule as there were no calculators except 4 bangers at a very high cost.Whereas I have had an opportunity to study modern electronics, the basics are usually lost, especially tube workings. Thank you again.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
You're quite welcome, Greg. We're glad the videos are helpful.
@scottgoldsberry5203
@scottgoldsberry5203 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks Doug, I actually stripped the radio down to a bare chassis, and never considered attempting to use the circuit for an amplifier. The chassis is being set aside for a future amp build.I did a bit of reading about the heterodynes, and am aware of the dangers of power possibly crossing to the chassis. I will watch your output transformer video, and test the OT to verify readings of the wires (ohms/continuity). Thanks again
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 9 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Scott. Good luck :)
@frankowalker4662
@frankowalker4662 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the info. I never bought second-hand transformers because of the wireing. All the spare ones I had, I removed myself carefully and labled them as you do.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 4 жыл бұрын
Makes sense, Franko.
@jayivy710
@jayivy710 9 жыл бұрын
I was just in the dining room (my electrical shop) inspecting a power transformer id bought. Your video came up and was very informative. Thanks for posting it.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 9 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Jay. I'm glad the video was helpful :)
@andrewgillis8572
@andrewgillis8572 4 жыл бұрын
@@UncleDoug Hey Doug I have a dandy Marconi-made boat anchor T1 in my 1953 Les Paul GA-40. I am mounting it in the bottom of the box - similar to the Estey Magnatone, which reverses any proof of concept. But Gibson's two chassis hanging bolts are not safe to carry with IMO. Thanks to you I confirmed my pin 8 rectifier socket location as my B+ line start point - then saw the actual lead in the dress. Exciting! That meant Gibson observed & used pin outs as per international standard. Whew. Had been wondering what other tricks of rectifier tubes wiring were out there - and of course this amp is a schematical black hole. And indeed Canadian Marconi did ot go with international standard. foudnn that fuse blows when reds are applied to rect V8 pins 8 and 2. Otherwise all the 6 volt starts in at V7, the trem circuit 6V6. Looks like i have bias wire to pin 6 of V6s, other half of the power pair. But yes indeed '50s Gibson GA series owners - the 5v4 in V8 may well be heated by orange - not red. Now it's for me to see what damage done if any before fuses went. Rectifier tube has not turned sooty black inside so perhaps it's still alright.. Happy New Year Doug & recalling Rusty fondly.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 4 жыл бұрын
@@andrewgillis8572 Thanks so much for your interesting input and nice comments, Andrew.
@andrewgillis8572
@andrewgillis8572 4 жыл бұрын
@@UncleDoug I may ask Elon Musk to launch the Magnatone into space.My reasoning is that it already makes the right noise.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 4 жыл бұрын
@@andrewgillis8572 I'll mention this to Elon, the next time he drops by the workshop, Andrew.
@Barnekkid
@Barnekkid 9 жыл бұрын
That was just great. I'm an analog amp nut and I love your information.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks, BK. Identifying the leads is sort of like a brain teaser puzzle.....kind of fun. We're glad you enjoy the videos :) ^. .^
@jaredkusner1137
@jaredkusner1137 4 жыл бұрын
This was a big help to me with a couple of 1947 transformers. Thanks much.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, JK.
@allhartfidelity
@allhartfidelity 7 жыл бұрын
very informative and well thought out delivery. using size of wire, colors, number of wires ohms, to have a broad way to confirm that's what. not sure why anyone would give the thumbs down like i see, nor why folks that do that dont post WHY they dislike.... whats not to like about Ole' Rusty! thanks for posting, will look for more of your stuff. It was easy for me to understand, and that Sir, is no small feat.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 7 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Charles, and thank you for your very kind and perceptive comments. Rusty and I have no idea why 1.) KZfaq allows people to anonymously degrade the content upon which they depend to make their site functional.....especially without any explanation or justification. 2.) Why people would give a thumbs down to a clear, helpful, free, inoffensive video. If you don't like it, just move on.....no need to leave your stain behind. No doubt, many of these individuals will now give even more thumbs down, simply because I have dared to question their actions.
@0tt0z
@0tt0z 8 ай бұрын
Again, i find another one of your videos extremely helpful. You are a great teacher. Thank you very much! All the best to you!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 8 ай бұрын
That's great news, S3. Likewise :)
@RestoreOldRadios
@RestoreOldRadios 9 жыл бұрын
Great instructional video and easy to follow. You mentioned hum is reduced by twisting the associated secondary leads around each other. I would appreciate you expanding on this. In addition, is there a simple method for establishing the max current ratings for the secondary windings? Thanks again for sharing. Don
@billmckenna7056
@billmckenna7056 7 жыл бұрын
another great video Doug! I have a pile of old transformers I've been hording for many years and always just plugged in the blacks and measured... good to be safer and more methodical!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Bill. That method will work, but it helps to do some preliminary evaluation to facilitate proper identification of the secondary leads.
@billmckenna7056
@billmckenna7056 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Doug, I re watched and am in the middle of a build of an old RCA reel player into a Suitcase amp. I was looking at the transformer it came with, on the schematic (and in the amp) and noticed it doesn't have the 5 Volt Heater typical of a 5y3 setup. They were using a 6x4 which used the 6.3 heaters from the usual heater winding. I was planing on a tweed era single end prinston. Question. Do you think I could get away with running the 6.3 heaters on a 5y3? or would this simply yield a burned tube and unhappy junior amp tweaker?
@jteichma
@jteichma 6 жыл бұрын
Uncle Doug, thanks so much for making your videos. I know so much more about about guitar amplification electronics. What a fun introduction to electronics. I really appreciate your teaching style and sense of humer as well. Your workbis a great contribution. Thanks so much!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, John. Hearing from viewers like you makes it all worthwhile :)
@jteichma
@jteichma 6 жыл бұрын
Uncle Doug. When you describe using a multi meter to check the voltage on the transformer wires which wires do you connect too? For example, on the high voltage leads, would I probe each lead and the center tap for that group? Thanks.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 жыл бұрын
You connect to the two (outer) secondary wires, not the center tap.
@BravoColl
@BravoColl 7 жыл бұрын
Uncle Doug, you really are amazing. Thanks for all your educational and informative videos, and thanks for the wonderful dry humour (sorry, I'm Scottish and need the extra "u" in humor...). I hope you, Rusty and Jack are all well. Thanks again, Coll.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, Coll. Although Rusty is of Australian extraction, I am proudly of Scottish ancestry, clan McLane (sp?) I believe, although several generations back :)
@strangersound
@strangersound 8 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, Doug. Serves as a great transformer primer, as well. Thanks!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 8 жыл бұрын
+strangersound You're welcome, SS. Glad you liked the video :)
@strangersound
@strangersound 8 жыл бұрын
All your transformer videos are excellent. Thanks, again! ;)
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 8 жыл бұрын
You're welcome :)
@toltec13
@toltec13 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks VERY much for this video!!! I work on tube radios as a hobby and the transformer wires always mystified me
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 9 жыл бұрын
jorge hernandez You're welcome, Jorge. I'm glad the video was helpful :)
@brianpotter7520
@brianpotter7520 9 жыл бұрын
Thank You uncle Doug!!!! I usually watch watch your video's a few times I have to take notes hahaha, I'm just a old guitar player and started trying to build my own amps or at least make the ones I have better. I really like your videos no bull, just knowledge thanks for helping the little people lol!!!!!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 9 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Brian. Rusty and I really appreciate your kind words and are glad to hear that the videos are helpful. Thanks for watching :)
@unboxedtravels
@unboxedtravels 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Doug, your videos are priceless !
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Sebastian :)
@ncilmo
@ncilmo 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Uncle Doug. This was very helpful.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 8 жыл бұрын
+Dr. Arthur D. Kemp You're welcome, Dr. Kemp. It's always good to hear from you :)
@frankstone919
@frankstone919 7 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your videos and have learned so much from you , thank you. A few months ago I had just built my first amp , out of a old tape deck. These things seem to reproduce now there are 5 and they make me buy test equipment. I'm not addicted to the smell of old tape recorders , I can quit anytime I want. When I hooked up a power transformer to the current limiter , without a load on the transformer I got nothing. Using a small Craftsman digital VOM. Then I hooked up another transformer I knew was good and nothing. It's good I didn't put my tongue on it. lol When I hooked it up direct to AC ..... I got power?
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 7 жыл бұрын
Greetings, Frank. You're welcome for any assistance provided by our videos. Recall that current limiters, as evident in their name, are purely current-dependent devices. When you connect a PT primary winding to the CL, with no secondary load, virtually no current flows. Thus, there is no current to illuminate the bulb or to be measured in the secondary. For this reason, CL's are best used for monitoring current flow in completed circuits, such as operating amps. Best of luck.
@thomascowan1825
@thomascowan1825 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Uncle Doug. I needed to know that and it helped a lot.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 жыл бұрын
That's good to hear, Thomas. You're welcome.
@OhmygodGoodday
@OhmygodGoodday 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks This video has been very helpful!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 8 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Mike :)
@kennethiman2691
@kennethiman2691 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for an easy to follow video.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Kenneth.
@markwhiteley4149
@markwhiteley4149 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Uncle Doug!! My buddy just dropped off a nice GA23P from an old Gibson...your Rosetta Stone is magical!!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Mark. I'm glad the video was helpful.
@old64goat
@old64goat 7 жыл бұрын
Great video as always, I am new to your channel and enjoy your videos.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, OG, and welcome aboard. We hope you watch and enjoy all our videos :)
@foureyedchick
@foureyedchick 7 жыл бұрын
3:47: Uncle Doug: What's going on here? You have the center-tap of the high voltage winding connected to ground. Then you have the center-tap of the 6.3 V filament winding connected to ground. HEY! I thought you can't do that. Now the windings are connected together and not independent as they should be. PLEASE ANSWER MY TEXTS.(You never respond to me).
@dujuarez1234
@dujuarez1234 9 жыл бұрын
Doug, Great video and excellent tutorial.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 9 жыл бұрын
David U Juarez Thanks so much, David......glad you liked it :)
@wcountyrednecks
@wcountyrednecks 7 жыл бұрын
What a wealth of information. Thanks uncle Doug
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 7 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Johnny :)
@GScott50
@GScott50 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you, that was a very logical and useful explanation.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 жыл бұрын
You're welcome :)
@Willam_J
@Willam_J 7 жыл бұрын
I can't believe Rusty is 18 years old! That's quite a long run for a dog. I was also surprised when you said that you were 78. I believe that the key to growing older and keeping your mind sharp is to have hobbies, interests and things to challenge yourself. I became interested in electronics when I was 9 years old and I'm 48 now. I have had a very rewarding career as an electronics technician/engineer. It saddens me when I see young people that don't even know which way to turn a screw. It's up to people like you and me to get younger people excited about electronics. You do it through your videos. I have plans to start my own KZfaq channel at some point but, for right now, I have been teaching electronics to other people in person. I have nephews and sons of friends who play music. They often bring guitars, amps, pedals, etc. to me to have repaired. I always tell them that if they want it done for free, they have to "help" me. When they leave with a working device, they know more about electronics and have also learned the process of troubleshooting. Thanks for what you do here. Take care of yourself and I hope you have many more great years helping others understand electronics.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 7 жыл бұрын
While I agree and applaud all of your comments, WJ, the single correction would be my age......I am currently 69 (until April) :) Your points about the need to inspire, educate, and integrate young people into electronics are of great significance. In my youth, we constantly worked on cars, dissected and repaired appliances, and knew which end of a wrench to hold. Last week one of my youthful neighbors had a dead battery, and asked my help......in not only diagnosing the obvious problem but also simply how to open the hood (the safety latch befuddled him). I believe that while there can be a limited group of experts in mechanics and electronics, ALL people should possess at least a modicum of knowledge in these fields.....for personal edification, if not personal safety.
@Willam_J
@Willam_J 7 жыл бұрын
Sorry about the age! You mentioned your age in your "Chassis Fabrication" video and I mixed your age up with my neighbor who is 78 and very sharp, as well. I understand what you're saying about younger people and cars. While they shouldn't have to know how to do a valve job, they should know how to change a tire, check/replace their fluids, jump-start a vehicle, etc. As far as electronics goes, I find that one of the biggest hurdles for people is soldering. I have worked with MANY techs and engineers over the years that freely admit that they can't solder. Most of my other hobbies involve electronics in some way or another. I get known as the "solder guy" whenever someone needs something soldered. I used to do it for them, but now I make them learn. My local community college has "community learning" program. If you have a skill that you want to teach to others, you submit your subject, curriculum, cost, class size, etc. to the school. They will include it in their catalog that they mail to all the residents. If the class gets enough interest, they hold it and let you teach it. I'm filling out the paperwork right now to get my class started. I have given several classes, for free, to my model aircraft and ham radio clubs in order to refine my teaching style and discover how different people need to be taught. I'm really looking forward to teaching people this basic skill. If it is a success, I will move on to basic electronics. I want to give people the knowledge to repair simple problems and (sometimes more importantly) to identify when it's time to take something to a pro. Is this something you've ever done or considered doing? I think you would be great at it! :-)
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, WJ. I was a classroom teacher for 18 years and retired several years ago, so I'm not real anxious to get back in the classroom. I feel like our videos are a more efficient way to present all sorts of (hopefully) helpful information to a world-wide audience. Base on the warm response, I think we are filling a niche.
@Ideal1980
@Ideal1980 5 жыл бұрын
Loved this video. Keep up the good work
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Ideal. We will :)
@roncarter2188
@roncarter2188 6 жыл бұрын
Great info, thanks a bunch. I have a late 60's tube amp that I have been waiting to turn into a nice guitar amp. The tube layout are 2 - 6v6's, a 6x5 rectifier tube, a 12ax7 and 12at7. I'm a 5e3 Tweed board would be nice. The output trans has 4,8,16 ohm speaker connections. Time to get it going.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 жыл бұрын
It sounds like all the essential ingredients for a really nice amp, Ron. Let us know how it turns out :)
@nusior
@nusior 9 жыл бұрын
As always great video and a good lesson for us tube-o-holics :)
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Nusior. I hope all the ampliophiles liked it :)
@SDsailor7
@SDsailor7 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! very informative.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Rob :)
@stephenwilliams1854
@stephenwilliams1854 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant video Unckle Buck!!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it, Stephen.
@worldwide1376
@worldwide1376 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent info, expertly explained. Thank you, helped me out.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 2 жыл бұрын
That's great to hear, WW.
@paulhammersley4562
@paulhammersley4562 8 жыл бұрын
great information doug, i've quite a few unknown transformer's, now i can figure out what goes where, p.s. say "hi" to rusty,
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 8 жыл бұрын
That's good to hear, Paul. I'll convey your regards to Rusty.
@lindseymontana945
@lindseymontana945 8 жыл бұрын
Hi Uncle Doug, I hope you, Rusty and the fam had a wonderful holiday season! I've been sitting on my hands, eagerly awaiting your next excellent video. In the meantime, I've carved out a new work space, installed some functional lighting and a permanent, wall mounted current limiter, using one of several vintage mogul base 300 watt bulbs I got from an old hardware store that recently gave up the ghost. Here's my question: I'm rebuilding a 1957 Les Paul Jr. GA-5 circuit from scratch and the original PT is blown. I have obtained a vintage PT absolutely free, so I'd like to use it. Trouble is, it seems a little big. There's tons of literature about running amps with small PT's, but it's hard to find info for those of us blessed with too many volts and plenty of current handling. My free transformer measures out at 375-CT-375 (750V); 3.8-CT-3.8 (7.6V) and 5.8V. The original circuit was for some sort of antenna array, which used a type 80 and a type 83 rectifier. Those tubes are supposed to have 5.0 volts, same as a 5Y3. So, I'd be interested in your opinion, can I run 7.6v instead of 6.3v on the 12ax7 and 6v6? Is 5.8v instead of 5.0v is OK for a rectifier such as a 5y3? And if not, would I reduce the voltages with power resistors in series? Thank you.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 8 жыл бұрын
+Lindsey Montana I think you'll find that the voltage measurements will go down to "normal" (6.3V and 5.0V) values once the transformer is operating in a circuit. The only one that may be excessive is the high voltage, so I suggest that you check the output tube bias immediately after you get the amp operational. Good luck with your project.
@vw4x4
@vw4x4 9 жыл бұрын
Best videos on the WEB! Thanks Doug....
@westonb1384
@westonb1384 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for excellent video's explaining both the "power" transformer and "output" transformer funtion in a tube amplifier. Very helpful information. Will need to rewatch videos a few more times before passing any test but great information I failed to find in other sorces. This the type of information I need to learn and really understand how a tube amp funtions. My eventual goal being to (diagnose problems) and repair tube amps for personal pleasure and hobby. I have more questions as well as answers now. Good thing you made more videos covering other tube amp components and their funtion. One question however, can any other tool perform the funtion of a variac? Seems I am going to need one. Thanks again for all.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 8 жыл бұрын
+Weston Bennett The first tool you need is a Current Limiter (see my video on how to build one). A variac is primarily used to gently power up electronic devices that have not been used in many years, and is the only way to do this task. To me, however, the CL is more useful on a day to day basis.
@ralphmilner3347
@ralphmilner3347 Жыл бұрын
Very thoroughly explained. Thank you.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug Жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Ralph.
@100chuckjones
@100chuckjones 9 жыл бұрын
I like your videos because you explain things very thoroughly. I thank you again for your efforts. have a great day.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 9 жыл бұрын
chuck jones You're welcome, Chuck. Rusty and I wish you the very best :)
@rudolfes
@rudolfes 9 ай бұрын
Uncle Doug, I don't remember if I were one of those asking but I will defiantly appreciate your knowledge! Busy testing an old phonograph type and was not sure about the power cable, as all the cable were open without there male or female plugs. Yes I could have tested the wire before I connect to the power, I track the wire at the back on the inside at the Transformer, but that wasn't the power cable, it was the speaker wire. So a little bit of smoke and there I made a big mistake with this 50's Phonograph with a Receiver. I would like to send you pic's, yes! SO after knowing about the awful mistake I took the other double wire and connecting it to the power after tracing it, I had to dismantle the whole system. Luckily, Luckily it is still power on, the only problem is that there aint any sound any more... I know now why and would of coarse love to fix it. Regards
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 9 ай бұрын
Photos are of no benefit, Rudolfes. Your time would be better spent focusing on making the repairs yourself or seeking qualified help. Good luck......and be careful.
@rudolfes
@rudolfes 9 ай бұрын
@@UncleDoug In short, because I think you know what burn in such a case. What has to be done? Thank's
@rádiosantigos1958
@rádiosantigos1958 3 жыл бұрын
Nice presentation! Thanks.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, RA :)
@justinvain377
@justinvain377 3 жыл бұрын
thank you, sir! this is really shed a light to my sight :)
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that, JiV. You're quite welcome.
@ldr4278
@ldr4278 8 жыл бұрын
Great Video! Thank you.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 8 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, L :)
@brentgilbert4208
@brentgilbert4208 2 жыл бұрын
That was fascinating! And helpful!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 2 жыл бұрын
That's good to hear, Brent :)
@kylebarton6498
@kylebarton6498 9 жыл бұрын
thank you sir, helpful as always
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 9 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Kyle.
@AnonymouseZillenial
@AnonymouseZillenial 9 жыл бұрын
you are back to making at leat the occasional video that is awesome sir
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Wes. It's good to hear from you :)
@rbee914
@rbee914 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@sting1111
@sting1111 5 жыл бұрын
UD I am restoring a 1980 Marshall 100w lead, 2203 circuit. I had to use this video today to id the primary and secondary leads of the PT...This amp was a mess, no twisted pairs, all wires different colors and was a bit more complicated than your simple one here but Anyway this video helped a great deal. thank you!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Sting. That's great news. I'm glad the video was helpful.
@phonotical
@phonotical 5 жыл бұрын
This video was playing while I was asleep and it gave me one strange dream!!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
Play the Super Organ Tone video with the outer space sounds, P......guaranteed great dreams :)
@phonotical
@phonotical 5 жыл бұрын
@@UncleDoug haha, well there was a group of us discussing the alien invasion situation and one burst in on us, we tried shocking it and then when one was on my back it was as though you were still giving the lecture about identifying the leads, and I'm lying there being attacked all like, just shock the thing! 🤣 Dreams are crazy
@Docbill57
@Docbill57 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Very helpful.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Bill.
@benh7909
@benh7909 6 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say thanks. I'm sitting here with a tangle of transformer wires, think I've got it sorted now.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Ben. That's good to hear :)
@iamsuengas
@iamsuengas 7 жыл бұрын
very informative I just ran across your Channel, I only have one thing to add , next time please can you show us the actual readings and the identification of each pair with the multimeter, it would greatly help my learning curve thank you.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 7 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. I'll keep your suggestion in mind.
@tonyalto1014
@tonyalto1014 2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful thanks!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it, Tony.
@user-te4xu3xj9t
@user-te4xu3xj9t 6 ай бұрын
Very easy the way he presented it.❤
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 3 ай бұрын
That's good to hear. Thanks !!
@TheBoss1597
@TheBoss1597 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Doug! Your video's is such a great source of information, really appreciate it! I've got some questions which I hope u don't mind... I'm building a bass preamp and are researching about some things,I will use a hybrid tube/ss rectifier and as I understand there should be a limiting resistor between the ss rectifier and the tube, your thoughts? and I'm searching for a gain/sensitivity control which appaerntly should have been used in some of the matchless amps, do you have any tips for me there? Keep up the good work and give my best to ollie and Jack!/Peder J
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 4 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, Peder, but I have no experience with either hybrid rectifiers or Matchless sensitivity controls. Hopefully there are sites dedicated to these topics that you can access. Good luck.
@td7456
@td7456 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks Uncle Doug, another great informative video plus....a grand appearance by Rusty! He's probably a little upset about being on the "end" of the vid! LOL!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 9 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Tim. Rusty was hesitant to appear on camera, worrying that his scruffy (seasonal fur shedding) appearance might disappoint his fans......but he STILL won't let me get near him with a brush :)
@JjMn1000
@JjMn1000 3 жыл бұрын
@@UncleDoug Hehe Also I’m a little late I know but very informative vid! Keep up the work!
@BenPrevo
@BenPrevo 9 жыл бұрын
Also with a full wave SS rectifier the c/t on the B plus in not always there ...
@idogepgyar
@idogepgyar 9 жыл бұрын
Hello Doug! Are you planning to do a video about the basic safety tips associated with tube amps? Your videos are such a fun and easy way to learn! Thanks, András
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 9 жыл бұрын
Greetings, Andris. Thanks so much for your kind words. I generally try to include safety recommendations on most of my technical videos, where appropriate. I have not yet produced a safety video, but may consider doing so.
@shyleshsrinivasan5092
@shyleshsrinivasan5092 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Uncle !
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Shy :)
@jaysgr
@jaysgr 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video! I have a question for you. Trying to repair a solid state guitar amp which has a noise (a grounding noise), I came across this : - The ground from the ac socket is connected to the amp chassis. - A black wire coming out of the transformer is connected to the ground of the pcb ( where the sleeves of the jacks are also connected) But, there is no connection between the sleeves and the chassis. Does this mean that the transformer is faulty? And is it ok to connect these two grounds (the jack sleeves & the chassis) with a cable? Any help would be much appreciated!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 9 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Jay. I am no expert on transistorized gear, and without actually seeing the chassis and a schematic, it would be virtually impossible to answer your question definitively. I would suggest that you use an ohmmeter to see if there is continuity (i.e. 0 ohms of resistance) between the sleeves and the chassis, with the amp turned off. Sometimes a connection may exist but is not readily visible. This connection, or lack of connection, should not be indicative of a problem with the transformer. Be careful.
@greghardy2676
@greghardy2676 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Greg.
@MichaelMoore-od4jz
@MichaelMoore-od4jz 9 жыл бұрын
great video
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 9 жыл бұрын
Michael Moore Thanks, Mike. Glad you liked it :)
@CountryHitsUSA
@CountryHitsUSA 9 жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 9 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, CH :)
@Flintsmooth
@Flintsmooth 7 жыл бұрын
Great video! I'd like to add, look for a short to the iron core from any of the winding's, I've seen this problem a few times, and it will make for a nasty shock!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, FS. You make a good point. In my experience, an internal short within a transformer is far more likely to energize the chassis (and create a significant shock risk) than is the so-called "Death Capacitor"......yet no one cowers in fear of "Death Transformers". :) :)
@Flintsmooth
@Flintsmooth 7 жыл бұрын
Ha Ha! If people really knew how dangerous their amps could be they would probably never use them, in theory! In actuality, very few people get shocked by their systems. My first experience with a shorted tranny was when I was testing a surplus store power transformer and when I plugged it in, there was a blue flash from under the tranny to my metal desk! Kind of scared me into paying more attention! It also taught me to put a layer of plywood over the grounded metal desk!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 7 жыл бұрын
Good move, FS. The only good use for metal tables is in morgues and welding shops :)
@Flintsmooth
@Flintsmooth 7 жыл бұрын
I'll say! I was young then, back in the 70s I think. A metal ground plane is great for cutting down electric noise on your bench. For a time I had old safety glass from 60s television cabinets on top!
@zincyellowmach1523
@zincyellowmach1523 Жыл бұрын
This video is gold
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Z1 :)
@skeeterbuck1355
@skeeterbuck1355 9 жыл бұрын
While I was watching this video, when you mentioned about the low resistance of the primary, 5 V and 6 V windings and how hard it would be to measure the low resistance, I immediately thought about using the ESR Blue to test the windings. That's what the meter was designed for, accurately measuring low resistance. Of course you would have to have a Blue Meter. What do you think Uncle Doug? Would it work? I'd try it myself but I don't currently have an extra power transformer.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 9 жыл бұрын
skeeterbuck An excellent suggestion, SB. You're right about the ESR meter being an ultra-accurate low value ohmmeter. I'll try it out. Thanks for this helpful input :)
@alvin10388
@alvin10388 9 жыл бұрын
thank you so much for your kindness--
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 9 жыл бұрын
Alvin s You're welcome, Alvin. Rusty and I are glad you enjoyed the video :)
@JjMn1000
@JjMn1000 3 жыл бұрын
@@UncleDoug I’m 6yrs late but I am very happy that you made this video.
@carlrudd1858
@carlrudd1858 9 жыл бұрын
Excellent! I'm going to firm this knowledge in my brain...hoping it will stay there. Am I correct in assuming that you have created a similar video regarding Output Xformers?
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 9 жыл бұрын
Carl Rudd Thanks, Carl. Yes, there is also an output transformer video.
@cctvfm
@cctvfm 9 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! Could you make a similar episode covering output transformers? For example, how to identify output impedances and wattage?
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much. I already posted a video on Output Transformers: Output Transformers: A Discussion of Basic Principles Check my channel index for over 100 videos covering vintage gear and all sorts of basic technical topics.
@cctvfm
@cctvfm 9 жыл бұрын
Oops! Although I've already watched most of your videos, I seemed to have missed that one, thanks!
@iguisard
@iguisard 9 жыл бұрын
Hey Uncle Doug! I've watched every single one of your videos on your channel, I really like how you analyze and walk through schematics and components making it easy to understand (even for someone like myself with little knowledge.) I've recently got my hands on 1964 Fender Pricenton amp (AA964) non-reverb no logo and I've been trying to learn as much as I can about it. Recently, I removed the death cap and changed the wire to a 3 prong ground plug, other than that the amp is all original. I would like to ask you about the speaker, a 10'' oxford 10J4-3. I enjoy playing a half step down, would this impact the life of the speaker and output transformer? I know this might be a silly question, but this is my first vintage amp and I don't want to ruin it in anyway. Cheers.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 9 жыл бұрын
iguisard Greetings, Ig, and thanks for the kind words. I wouldn't think that a slightly dropped tuning would stress the original speaker or OPT. I'd avoid playing much at very high volume or with and overdrive pedal, but other than that, you should simply enjoy the Princeton......one of my all-time favorite amps.
@ckhcvd6211
@ckhcvd6211 9 жыл бұрын
any chance of you doing a "how to test a power transformer" video? how to check if they are good or bad
@ctcards2636
@ctcards2636 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very very much for posting this :-)
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad it was helpful, CT.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 9 жыл бұрын
Echo, I cannot reply directly to your inquiry. Hopefully, you will see this response. If your amp is operating properly at the moment, I honestly would not recommend changing to a Mercury power transformer. Others may disagree, but I really don't think the benefits would be worth the (substantial) cost.
@mostknownunknown1356
@mostknownunknown1356 4 жыл бұрын
😂 you dont know shit...
@larryn1875
@larryn1875 4 жыл бұрын
@@mostknownunknown1356 Oh yes he does! Through experience I know.
@airgliderz
@airgliderz 4 жыл бұрын
@@mostknownunknown1356 ignorance is bliss in your world. LOL
@andrewdarnley4608
@andrewdarnley4608 8 жыл бұрын
Hi Doug, I've just finished watching your video and it's been extremely helpful. What I'm not sure of is if I'm searching around for a power transformer for an 5F1 type amp project, what do I look for in a transformer ? Are there any readings I can take with a meter to find a suitable transformer for the 5F1 circuit ?
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 8 жыл бұрын
+Andrew Darnley You're best bet is to go to the Triode Electronics Internet site and see what power transformer they offer for the Fender Champ. They will also provide the specifications for the PT.
@andrewdarnley4608
@andrewdarnley4608 8 жыл бұрын
I was wondering about the possibility of salvaging a power transformer from an older amp. Would you advise against this for a newbie like me ?
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 8 жыл бұрын
Not at all, as long as you can determine that it will meet or exceed the voltage and current requirements of the circuit you intend to build.
@jackallen6261
@jackallen6261 6 жыл бұрын
Great video. I fear electricity greatly! Just as a PSA I guess (Public Service Announcement) I have been working as an Industrial Maintenance Technician for about 22 years. Granted we are only talking about 120 VAC input here and single phase BUT the output of this transformer is well over 300 volts...PLEASE PLEASE be EXTEARMLY careful in dealing with transformers of this type (300 plus volts output voltage) I have seen the result a dead short in action and when a transformer blows up from a dead short it is not a good day. Please listen to Uncle Doug when he says use a current limiting device to do your tests...the life you save could be yours!! Thanks for the video!!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Jack. Thanks for your testimonial :)
@wesleymorris1
@wesleymorris1 5 жыл бұрын
Got a quick question for the all mighty uncle Doug, lol I got a power transformer, it's got 120v input and green filiments which measure 7.8v which is high, then it's got yellow and red wires for the 6x4 rectifier, with a red and yellow center tap, but then the confusing part it's got two blue wires and a blue and yellow center tap, when I measure them to the center tap I get 15vac apeice 30v together any idea what these could be for, the transformer came out a old Ampex recorder, it ran 10 12ax7/at/au preamp tubes and the 6x4 rectifier, I want to use it on a small build but don't know what the blue wires are for. Thanks any help would be appreciated. Your pupil
@theguitarguy777
@theguitarguy777 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Uncle Doug your videos are helping me a grear deal. I just recieved a huge haul of hammond iron. One piece has 2 pairs of 9 wires each with same 9 colors on each side. Weighs 22 pounds. Curious what you would do with it. Thanks for being such a good teacher. Im a guitar maker at heart but love tube amps and thanks to you am on my way to building a scratch amp from Hammond organ parts. May the lord bless you!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 4 жыл бұрын
Greetings, Marc. To be honest, those huge organ transformers are just not desirable. They are too much of a good thing. Stick with the smaller ones for guitar amp use. Best of luck to you.
@theguitarguy777
@theguitarguy777 4 жыл бұрын
Uncle doug. Watched another of your videos and got a good hint at what my transformers from the organ haul are. 606 .....schumaker made. I got two super reverb outputs and a power with 340 volts and center tap. I really want to do a 5E3. I realize the outputs might not be best choice because of the 2 ohm output. The power tranny appears that it will work. Thanks for the great hint about Schumaker codes. LOVE THE INTERNATIONAL TRUCK.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 4 жыл бұрын
@@theguitarguy777 Thanks, Marc. Best of luck with your project.
@bruceharding4986
@bruceharding4986 7 жыл бұрын
This is great and you are ACE :-)
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Bruce :)
@giulienk
@giulienk 9 жыл бұрын
Great instructive video as usual! Do you think you and Rusty could make a video about the proper way to convert an old amp to three prong plug, i.e. adding a ground connection? Also, I scavenged this really heavy transformer from an old tube radio and I was thinking of using it for a small amp like a Champ but with solid state rectifier (as it only have wiring for high voltage ~300 volts and 6.3 v filaments). The "only" problem is I found out the transformer is really an autotransformer, not providing isolation from the mains. Would it still be safe to pursue the project? Worst come to worst I was thinking of adding 1:1 transformer just to add isolation between the mains and my transformer...
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 9 жыл бұрын
Greetings, G, and thanks for your kind words. I have been asked several times about the conversion to 3-wire cord, and, as demonstrated above, repeated questions often lead to a new video. Re the autotransformer-Champ project, as you have probably seen from my videos, I'm all for building amps and effects from crazy materials, but I would not be completely in favor of this project. As you state, there will be no isolation unless you add an isolation transformer, and then you will end up with a diode-rectified, 75 lb. Fender Champ. The charm of the Champ is its small size, weight, and (to some degree) tube rectification. For about the cost of an isolation transformer, you could buy a new, correct power transformer for the Champ (see Triode USA), and be much better off. I apologize for being so conservative, and you may well proceed with the project anyway, but having worked long and hard on projects that "just weren't meant to be", I wanted to provide an honest answer to your question. Regardless, I really appreciate your interest and input and wish you the best.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 9 жыл бұрын
twangzilla Rusty and I watched the video and thought it was good, but we have the following observations: 1.) In the video, the conversion is complicated by the presence of the Fender polarity switch. If you're not working on an older Fender amp, this will not matter to you. 2.) It might be easier to simply remove all wires from the Polarity Switch, i.e. bypass it, but leave it in place for originality sake. It serves absolutely no purpose after the conversion. 3.) The black (hot) wire, not the white (common) wire, should always go to the main power switch.....otherwise, 120VAC will be present in the circuit even if the amp is turned off. 4.) Rusty is not so paranoid about the "Death Cap". If it were to become shorted to the chassis (exceedingly rare), the resultant current flow would cause the fuse to blow.....otherwise, what is the function (or value) of the chassis grounding wire?
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