How To Improve Your Double Stroke Roll

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Drum Ape

Drum Ape

Күн бұрын

A detailed break-down of the inverted double stroke for beginners and intermediate players. This tutorial includes hidden upstroke, tap height, dynamics and a break-down of the whipping motion needed to play the double stroke roll. Learn Stick Control and Moeller Technique.
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13 Double Stroke Roll Exercises for Beginners: bmc.xyz/l/13dblstrexerc
10 More Double Stroke Roll Exercises (Triplets): bmc.xyz/l/uzUWABvMN

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@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
As many of you rightfully noted in the comments, this is Moeller's technique. This came as a surprise to me, as I've mostly played by George L. Stone's "Stick Control", "Accents and Rebounds" and then Joe Morello's "Advanced Studies", all of which I highly recommend if you didn't know about them already. However, I think the Moeller's technique, which deals with a three stroke cycle, is only a part of the video. To me at least, the Moeller's technique comes into play at faster speeds, where rebound can dictate the consequential movement of the stick, using the leftover energy produced by the first hit. But in my experience of teaching mostly complete beginners - people who've never held a stick before - Moeller's technique could only be applied once you've developed your wrist motion and learned to unlock it without losing grip of the fulcrum. Hence, I wanted to break down in detail the initial stroke itself, by showing the importance of the hidden upstroke involved. Advanced players might not find this useful because they have developed their sense of rebound and resonance, as well as control over their wrists so long ago, that it becomes natural to them and they assume everyone should be able to pick it up. In my opinion, technique cannot be claimed, rather it can be discovered, as it all comes down to where physics and the laws of motion coincide with the limitations and capabilities of the human body. Let me know your thoughts in the comments. Cheers and thanks for watching!
@Izanagioomikami
@Izanagioomikami 3 жыл бұрын
You're absolutely right. A technique is not the property of someone but rather created by the need of a person. There have been many times in a lot of different arts and sports were people have been using a certain technique that came to them naturally and discovered later that the technique they're using has already a name and was used by someone first and they had absolutely no idea.
@weareallbeingwatched4602
@weareallbeingwatched4602 3 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of ways to play on the upstroke and the downstroke, and there were a lot of drummers before Moeller wrote his books.
@onebadhombre7158
@onebadhombre7158 3 жыл бұрын
@@Izanagioomikami José Luis Quintana “Changuito” has stated that technique comes to you naturally with slow practice and time
@Izanagioomikami
@Izanagioomikami 3 жыл бұрын
@@onebadhombre7158 I don't know who that is but technique comes to you when you need it.
@joetroutt7425
@joetroutt7425 3 жыл бұрын
George L Stone's stick control was my go to book I learned my rudiments from.
@francisconovello5305
@francisconovello5305 4 жыл бұрын
Never saw such a comprehensive explanation like this one on the subject. This is a treasure. Tk you so much.
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your kind words, means a lot.
@Robbinsoul_Cruzzo
@Robbinsoul_Cruzzo 3 жыл бұрын
This video helped my doubles almost immediately! I would love for you to show some techniques that help with fluidity around the kit :) I am your fan from now on and my biggest learning resource as your explanations dive deep and focus on details. As we all know the Devil is in the details and you've helped me so much already and I've only watched 3 videos and found out I'll need to re learn my singles first then move onto doubles. Also Kick pedal video was amazing !! Keep doing the great job !!
@AliciaLopez-rx8vz
@AliciaLopez-rx8vz Жыл бұрын
I’ve been paying for online drum lessons and this right here is the BEST explanation I’ve seen so far for doubles. And totally FREE! Thanks so much for sharing this with the public. Excellent teacher 👍🏽
@DrumApe
@DrumApe Жыл бұрын
Wow! Thanks for the kind words!
@mbaroneva76
@mbaroneva76 2 жыл бұрын
I’m coming back to drumming after a 20 year break. My left hand is awful, just awful. Working through my rudiments and building my hands back up along with limb independence. This is a phenomenal refresher on the double stroke roll. Thank you so much.
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome back!
@akrause2004
@akrause2004 Жыл бұрын
Bro, you're **LITERALLY** telling my story. It's actually embarrassing how much atrophy I've experienced in my left hand. The stick is constantly slipping out of my pinch because my "drumstick" muscles (both sides of the thumb at the hand) is non existent anymore. I'm super pissed at myself but not letting it stop me from getting back. It's gonna take a solid year of pad practice to get anywhere close to where I was in my 20's. I've also got tons of motivation now as my son (11yrs old) is now playing and taking lessons. We'll do it together!
@DrumApe
@DrumApe Жыл бұрын
So glad, let me know if I can help
@mbaroneva76
@mbaroneva76 Жыл бұрын
@@akrause2004, it get better. I had the same issue, extreme weakness especially in my left hand. Problems dropping the stick while trying to maintain a loose grip. You really have to slow yourself down and build it back up. I have four kids, mortgage, the whole midlife deal so practice time is sparing. I’ve still been able to get a good amount of confidence back with only four hours or so of practice a week while also trying to explore some new ideas. Just enjoy being back on a kit. My wife had to remind me that I’m not going pro and this is supposed to be fun. 😂
@gvn2fly96
@gvn2fly96 Жыл бұрын
In the same boat as you!
@richardlong419
@richardlong419 3 жыл бұрын
FINALLY! This explanation for double strokes, is by FAR, the best one out there! I know, because I’ve seen ‘em ALL! So thank You for this video!
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks Richard, that really means a great deal to me!
@davisone76
@davisone76 3 жыл бұрын
Listen man you have really got something here. I have never been successful at the double stroke but I am still a decent drummer. This explanation and technique is the best I have ever seen. Thank you for making this video.
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Uhhhchris?, that really puts a smile on my face! Good luck and cheers!
@ZacharyTabick
@ZacharyTabick 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve never had this explained to me better. This is the best example and explanation I’ve ever seen… and I teach drums for a living. Thank you so much.
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Zachary, that means a lot to me.
@dedballoons
@dedballoons 3 жыл бұрын
Having never had actual drum lessons, I've struggled with double-strokes the 20-ish years I've been playing in terms of getting them powerful and even. Until right now I never once heard about inverting it and accenting the "double" to dupe being even. That's brilliant and I am only 39 seconds into this video. And I guess about 5 minutes away from running off to my kit.
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
It takes some time but once you get it it’s for life. Just remember to pinch with the fingers while keeping the wrist open and you should be fine. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@Jas-ux8br
@Jas-ux8br 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial mate..thanks for the great technique 👍
@stephensweeney5331
@stephensweeney5331 9 ай бұрын
Best double-stroke roll tutorial I've ever seen.
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 9 ай бұрын
Best comment I’ve had in awhile
@stephensweeney5331
@stephensweeney5331 9 ай бұрын
@@DrumApe I mean it! can't wait to watch the rest of your videos, now that I've found this gem!
@jacevanriper2008
@jacevanriper2008 3 жыл бұрын
Outstanding demonstration and tutorial. Thank you!
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jace Van Riper, thanks a lot!
@tonypepperoni3157
@tonypepperoni3157 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video
@topa1798
@topa1798 3 жыл бұрын
This is the holy grail 🙌🏻
@mikeingman4841
@mikeingman4841 2 жыл бұрын
Very well done this method has proven to be one of the best, I'm re learning it after many years of not playing the drums.. I appreciate I appreciate people putting things like this on KZfaq it really helps a lot of us out thanks again
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 2 жыл бұрын
You are welcome, Mike Ingman!
@neverenough71
@neverenough71 2 жыл бұрын
Great breakdown. Subscribed.
@jammingsband5174
@jammingsband5174 3 жыл бұрын
This really helps me
@timholzheuer
@timholzheuer 3 жыл бұрын
What a great video. Never saw an explanation like this. Thank you so much!!!
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Tim, thanks for saying that. Cheers!
@radiancefitness
@radiancefitness 3 жыл бұрын
Subscribed. Amazing breakdown.
@nickferrence8593
@nickferrence8593 3 жыл бұрын
Wow what a great and thorough explanation of technique. I subscribed instantly. Thanks
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Nick! I appreciate that!
@darrensucksatgames
@darrensucksatgames 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of the extra mechanics of the motion of a rebound stroke are natural. Get out of the way of the stick and practice individual double strokes without the roll and all of these motions will come naturally without feeling forced. This is why Buddy Rich always recommended the Rebound Stroke to all drummers of different skill levels.
@vincentsantarelli6915
@vincentsantarelli6915 3 жыл бұрын
really great demo,all the details are there.
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Vincent, many thanks!
@zammismartines1032
@zammismartines1032 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was looking for! Thank to nail on the explanation
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 2 жыл бұрын
Very happy to hear this, thanks Zammis.
@klasandren3720
@klasandren3720 2 жыл бұрын
Superb video, thanks
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 2 жыл бұрын
So nice of you.
@neurocosm
@neurocosm Жыл бұрын
This is the most comprehensive I have seen the technique explained. I will use the example terminaology with my students. Thank you! "STAY LOOSE" :)
@jakonishrohith6462
@jakonishrohith6462 3 жыл бұрын
Such a perfect advice❤️👍
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Jakonish, thanks!
@4stringbloodyfingers
@4stringbloodyfingers 2 жыл бұрын
good quality video. thank you
@humb1s3rvant
@humb1s3rvant 3 жыл бұрын
Great in depth instruction. My best explanation is "bounce it twice on each hand". Stick control and height. Muscle memory. Practice, practice, practice.
@remotexpolde
@remotexpolde 3 жыл бұрын
This was awesome. Cheers!!
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jess Vera, thanks a lot! Cheers :)
@onebadhombre7158
@onebadhombre7158 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best doubles videos ever!!! Thanks!
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
Hi One Bad Hombre, thanks for the great comment! I am very glad you thought so. Cheers!
@onebadhombre7158
@onebadhombre7158 3 жыл бұрын
@@DrumApe I play my doubles by using the push-pull technique. As I go faster, my wrist motion lessens and my arm motion increases slightly. I move my arm slightly forward/down to initial the first bounce. I then use my fingers to bring the sticks in for the second bounce. Is that correct?
@boobizzy4173
@boobizzy4173 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother! You demonstrate it very well so I can understand it🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
So glad to hear this, thanks Boo Bizzy!
@joetroutt7425
@joetroutt7425 3 жыл бұрын
I like the technique of this double stroke roll and it's application to beginners. It seems exaggerated but it fully explains how it works and how to get it faster with complete control.
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
So glad you said that, thanks!
@luisespiritu3932
@luisespiritu3932 3 жыл бұрын
wow this is so informative
@XxDUSTYxX666
@XxDUSTYxX666 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your great video! Very helpful! 🥁👍
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Dusty, I am so glad you think so! Thanks!
@JulianJanev
@JulianJanev 4 жыл бұрын
Great lesson! 😍
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Juliane :))
@mdp303
@mdp303 3 жыл бұрын
This is great. Thanks👍👏🏽
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
So glad you liked it!
@joewallman2664
@joewallman2664 3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation to someone still trying to get it tighter. Thanks man. Keep up the good tutorials for us !
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Joe Wallman, thanks for saying that, keep working on it. I got ideas for a couple more videos so shouldn’t be too long. Cheers
@g.j.oyzonjr7616
@g.j.oyzonjr7616 3 жыл бұрын
Very precise method of explaining skills
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, G.J. I appreciate it!
@kevinfrederick3803
@kevinfrederick3803 3 жыл бұрын
That's about as detailed as I've seen. Very well spoken and just plain professional if u ask me. Thank you Drum Ape
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kevin, really appreciate that!
@Makhach
@Makhach 3 жыл бұрын
Great breakdown!
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Makhach, thanks for saying that!
@gloriajames3334
@gloriajames3334 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! This video was really helpful for me in learning to play double stroke as I was struggling with it!
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Gloria, so glad to hear this! Thanks for saying something :)
@jeyjurist16
@jeyjurist16 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this bro
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Jey, you're welcome.
@nitram_nosnibor
@nitram_nosnibor Жыл бұрын
Wow this is so well explained, it made so much sense to me. I cannot wait until I get home later and start doing this - thank you SO much I love your videos 👍🏻
@DrumApe
@DrumApe Жыл бұрын
Amazing words Martin, thanks
@jean-marcmathers3215
@jean-marcmathers3215 3 жыл бұрын
Very Nice!
@mamamamarino
@mamamamarino 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to congratulate you on making a 5 minute video that is only 5:35 long. Too many of these instructional videos have 3 minutes of useful content but are 8-12 minutes long. Oh, and thanks for a great video. Can't wait to start working on this!
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Matt, thanks! This one turned out very compact and complete at the same time.. thanks for watching!
@MrFatdaz
@MrFatdaz 3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks MrFatdaz!
@sandunbandara894
@sandunbandara894 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation 🤩
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Sandun thanks!
@tuknchuk
@tuknchuk 3 жыл бұрын
Great Video !!!!
@KevinDePreeMusic
@KevinDePreeMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Kevin, thanks!
@dominiquez5643
@dominiquez5643 3 жыл бұрын
TOP OF THE LINE MAN !! (This is for beginners !! Unlike a few other beginner videos I saw). You are amazing but man, the way you explain things in detail, the very best videos on single and double stroke from 50 that I watched so far !! THANK YOU for demystifying it !
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Dominique, thanks so much for your kind words! I am very glad you found this useful, thanks for watching!
@dominiquez5643
@dominiquez5643 3 жыл бұрын
@Drum Ape keep 'em coming Mr Ape, I loved the one on how to improve high hat sound ! Simply amazing watching how clear and humble you explain things !! Very grateful with your help, support and time dedicated to the videos. 20 yr guitar player with 2 weeks of drumming at 53yo haha
@espadaphotography
@espadaphotography 3 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks
@roguehk
@roguehk 3 жыл бұрын
Wow - this is truly awesome. My double strokes are terrible, but your method here is so easy to understand and very logical. I can't wait to start shedding tomorrow! Thank you so much!
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Kenny, it makes me so happy to hear this. Don't rush it, give it time and consider stretching before and after practice sessions. Good luck!
@mjm5081
@mjm5081 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing! Liked/Subscribed/Shared...Happy Drumming 😃
@morrismcgurkworks
@morrismcgurkworks 4 жыл бұрын
Well said!!!
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 4 жыл бұрын
Only valuable if there's someone to say it to :) thanks for watching and stay safe
@inderajaya
@inderajaya 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@welbyviana1450
@welbyviana1450 3 жыл бұрын
A melhor videoaula de todos os tempos...
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
O melhor comentário de todos os tempos!
@ad-drumcovers99
@ad-drumcovers99 Жыл бұрын
I could practice these for 5 years and still suck at drumming. Thank goodness there’s folks out there who know what the hell they’re doing 🙏🙏🙏
@kimbeomcheol
@kimbeomcheol 3 жыл бұрын
A detail Lesson awesome
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Bum Tube, thanks!
@Chiroman527
@Chiroman527 3 жыл бұрын
Very Good Tutorial on stick control. I'm 69 years old, returning to playing drums after a 50 year Hiatus for FUN and a Hobby in Retirement. I am simply grateful to keep the beat and offer some enhancements to fills while playing MY MUSIC (Old , Basic Rock ). Took lessons (maybe 10 or so ) back in 1966. I play by ear and do not read music , other than basic drum measures. I do need to practice more to attain at least half this speed..... THX again. Be safe all and Enjoy the Drums...
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Aldo, thanks for your kind words. I appreciate you saying that because a lot of people said it was Moeller haha. I encourage you to dig deeper into reading more complex drum notation as well as other styles like latin and fusion as that would surely make you a better drummer. Keep rocking!
@donnypatoine4475
@donnypatoine4475 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Mentioning that many don't relax their wrist after the second stroke was a good observation I believe that's exactly what's keeping me below 160 bpm, been at that barrier for awhile now.
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 2 жыл бұрын
I think so too, if а muscle is constantly contracted it gets strained and becomes numb, loosing all feeling and control. It can take it, but for short bursts. Cheers
@ppgprops
@ppgprops 3 жыл бұрын
Damn... subbed.
@TruthAndMoreTruth
@TruthAndMoreTruth 3 жыл бұрын
I bet the the 6 people who disliked this video use French grip (thumbs up), and could not use this technique. Incredible break down... THANK YOU for this!
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
Hope I didn’t disappoint them too much lol.. thanks for watching!
@drumrolz3155
@drumrolz3155 3 жыл бұрын
Very good!
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks drumrolz!
@davidfernandez3197
@davidfernandez3197 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, this is the best video I’ve found. Right now I just bought a drum pad and I’m looking for exercises to practice. Sadly, I broke my thumb and have a cast. but I’m excited to take it off so I could start practicing
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 2 жыл бұрын
So sorry for your thumb.. When the cast goes off, take your time and slowly build it up.
@MrPebbles316
@MrPebbles316 3 жыл бұрын
Instantly subscribed! If I do decide to get deeper into drumming I’m buying lessons here.
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
Very kind of you, thanks! Let me know when you do.
@Johnwick789
@Johnwick789 3 жыл бұрын
อธิบายได้เคลียร์มาก very good
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
ขอบคุณมาก!
@rp.88
@rp.88 3 жыл бұрын
You sir, just got a sub. Thanks for the great video! I've been playing for over 20 years and keep trying to improve my basics, this is a great exercise to add to the arsenal! Cheers!
@subiegal8428
@subiegal8428 3 жыл бұрын
Better known as the Moeller stroke 😁 Explained by the greatest... The one and only, DrumApe 💙💛💙
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
Aaand you’re back! Thanks Subie Gal!
@subiegal8428
@subiegal8428 3 жыл бұрын
@@DrumApe glad to see you back too 💙💛💙
@thekings6128
@thekings6128 2 жыл бұрын
You a really helpful, I like the way you explain the subject. If you keep on doing this, you will have alot of subscribers.❤God bless❤
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Peniel Lupain, that's very kind of you.
@abarishyperborean9656
@abarishyperborean9656 3 жыл бұрын
Cool video
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Abaris!
@edwincatacutan5277
@edwincatacutan5277 3 жыл бұрын
Just wow! Thank you very much. I wish I saw this vid like 20 years earlier haha
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
Never too late my friend, we’re all in the same boat :)
@portal432
@portal432 3 жыл бұрын
awesome. liked and subbed
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks T Lonto, I appreciate that!
@joef9565
@joef9565 3 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Joe F, thanks!
@kartheebanmuthuswamy3100
@kartheebanmuthuswamy3100 3 жыл бұрын
OMG! That was very very useful for me!! Thank you so much for sharing this with us🙂 Actually I can able to understand clearly... After seeing this video instantly SUBSCRIBED🙂🙂🙂
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Kartheeban, I am so glad you liked it and very kind of you to say so.
@kartheebanmuthuswamy3100
@kartheebanmuthuswamy3100 3 жыл бұрын
😊😊Actually I can very clearly able to understand what u are saying!! AGAIN THANK YOU BROTHER!! 😊
@jasjas4253
@jasjas4253 2 жыл бұрын
Hey this is the video if anyone here wants to master double stroke or anything else for that matter. I watched other videos but this one is for me. Recommended to anyone .
@govindahalade6587
@govindahalade6587 4 жыл бұрын
Superb 👆🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻 i like it
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Govinda Halade!
@afterafashion6099
@afterafashion6099 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
So kind of you
@Acorn18
@Acorn18 Жыл бұрын
So well explained! Thank you. As a beginner I've watched so many videos on techniques I should be practicing and the more I investigate, the murkier it gets. This video has really given me a clear exercise to focus on where I can see the benefit. Thank you. You mentioned push pull technique is similar but needs to be explained in a different video. Would you consider making a video on this too!? :-)
@DrumApe
@DrumApe Жыл бұрын
I’m so glad this video helped you, so nice of you to say. Push pull technique should definitely be a topic for a future video, although I don’t feel I’m proficient enough with that particular technique, at least not as good as some other people’s videos I’ve seen on KZfaq. But I’ll think about it, thanks for your comment.
@chathurahettihewa3244
@chathurahettihewa3244 2 жыл бұрын
Tank sir
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Chathura
@td-12kx53
@td-12kx53 3 жыл бұрын
Phenomenal instruction!
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that, thanks!
@myak5754
@myak5754 2 жыл бұрын
For me it's helped thinking in "paradiddles" but accenting certain parts. Like this: parAdiDLE. Or, easier to think, one AND two AND.
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a pretty good idea
@govindahalade6587
@govindahalade6587 4 жыл бұрын
Biggg fan yours 😘😘😘👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🤝🏻
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 4 жыл бұрын
So kind of you
@lionelvillahermosa653
@lionelvillahermosa653 2 жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT BEAUTIFUL AMAZING SUBLIME INMORTAL 🎼 🥁 🎶 🎵
@vapeoreon1525
@vapeoreon1525 2 жыл бұрын
This has been such a help, especially with my left hand, what practice pad are you using ?
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Vapeoren, I’m using a DW practice pad “tree”. Had it for a long time. Pretty sure there are other alternatives by now.
@dmitriy1289
@dmitriy1289 3 жыл бұрын
Great
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dmitriy!
@brianbeauchaine2597
@brianbeauchaine2597 3 жыл бұрын
As a new drummer I’m practicing very hard at learning these techniques. I practice at least an hour every day, but I feel like I’ve hit a wall. This is the best video I’ve seen so far at showing the exact technique. Can’t wait to try it out!
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Brian, that is way cool I am so glad to hear this, let me know how it goes!
@brianbeauchaine2597
@brianbeauchaine2597 3 жыл бұрын
@@DrumApe thanks for the reply! Quick question. Actually, two. My shin muscles get sore after about 20 mins of playing. Am I hitting the pedal wrong? Also, what two crash cymbals would you recommend for a rock music? I have a 16” fast crash and an 18” fast crash, but they don’t sound great playing (or trying to play) classic rock.
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Brian, yes you might be overdoing it, or if you started playing more recently it might just be stress on the muscle, but if it gets unbearable you should see a doctor or stop. But try to unlock the ankle and not use too much force and you should be fine. Rock crash and projection crashes are best for rock and heavier stuff, some brilliant crashes also. Fast crashes are thinner so not very loud. Cheers
@brianbeauchaine2597
@brianbeauchaine2597 3 жыл бұрын
@@DrumApe okay thanks! Yeah it’s just muscle soreness, just wasn’t sure if it’s normal or not. I imagine if I keep playing, that muscle will get in shape.
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Brian, yes with time it will be stronger. Just don’t rush it.
@CasamTheAnimator
@CasamTheAnimator 3 ай бұрын
You can also do double stroke roll using rebound. Rebound is when you drop something solid on for example a table it jumps few times and the jump height decreases and decrease and you may also see it jumping faster when the jump is lower until until it's stable and doesn't jump again, depending on the material, it can be strong or weak, if you drop something like a stick on a table it will keep jumping and jumping until it stopped it's now standing on the table, so a hard material gives efficient rebound, so if you drop a stick on a pillow or a couch you don't get much rebound since both couch and pillow are soft, but when you play on a concrete, wood, metal or anything that is hard and solid you get a great rebound.
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 ай бұрын
😂 you’re trolling me
@mohdamiruddinsulaiman1383
@mohdamiruddinsulaiman1383 3 жыл бұрын
Yesssss!!!!
@happy30yrs
@happy30yrs 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great tutorial, you have it sounding really smooth, strong & consistent. I was wondering if you could give some insight as to the different angle of your practice pad vs the snare drum in this vid? eg. pad sloping away from you & snare sloping toward you?
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Happy30yrs, yes that a great question actually. For years now I've been practicing stick control and other exercises standing up. Mostly has to do with this particular stand I got - the DW Go Anywhere. I found that it's easier on my back in general and also I conduct all my lessons this way - me and the student warm up standing up, then move on to the drum kit, where we obviously sit down. The angle of the practice pad works best sloping away from me as I am taller than the stand and this way the angle at which the stick hits the pad is minimal and therefore gives me the best rebound, but most importantly - keeps my wrists straight (at the time of the hit) and prevents my students' wrists from collapsing down, as many beginners I've seen do. Your hand is strongest when your wrist is straight and lowers the chance you might hurt yourself in the long run. So - better rebound and safety.
@happy30yrs
@happy30yrs 3 жыл бұрын
@@DrumApe Thanks for the explanation. I've been quite interested in this lately after noticing one of my favorite drummers Jose Pasillas (Incubus) adopting the snare drum (seated at his kit) sloping away from him. He plays matched grip. The only time I had seen this before was Steve Smith's set up & I assumed it was similar to the slope you would see traditional grip players using at times, to get the right angle for rebound & rim shots etc. The older I get, technique/safety & longevity play a big part in my continued journey of enjoying drumming. It's always fascinating learning new things.
@pdxfunk
@pdxfunk 3 жыл бұрын
I'm about a month or 2 into doing doubles practice like this almost every day for 20 minutes or more and finally getting some good doubles! For some reason my weak hand (left) "Learned" how to unlock and snap the wrist over years of doing little doubles here and there on the snare, but my strong hand (right) just did NOT want to let the wrist unlock to get the "pop" needed to get these doubles to work. I have finally powered through this issue though! It really does pay to take it slow and work your way up.
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Just keep at it.
@pdxfunk
@pdxfunk 3 жыл бұрын
@@DrumApe for sure! And I know I've said it before but this video is the best on KZfaq for this topic! Cheers man!
@KidsLearningVideosYT
@KidsLearningVideosYT 3 жыл бұрын
great, time to get drums
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
always great time to get drums, cheers! :)
@pdxfunk
@pdxfunk 3 жыл бұрын
This is great! Your explaination using the stick at shoulder height is a lot like the amazing JoJo Meyer's in Secret Weapons of the Modern Drummer. I feel like I'm finally getting a handle on this technique after watching your video and the old Jim Chapin doubles video, but I seem to always hit a wall at about 100bpm and cant make this go any faster. Guess i have to just keep working at it.
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your kind words, I am really happy people find this useful. Regarding the brick wall - I'd say there's a tempo at which there's a cross over point, where you have to switch to a different technique, as using the wrists becomes cumbersome at faster speeds. This particular video's aim is to reveal the importance of the upstrokes between the hits in getting the doubles to sound even. Let me know if I can help further and good luck!
@pdxfunk
@pdxfunk 3 жыл бұрын
@@DrumApe I see. I think I understand this. When going to faster speeds, would you say it is more palm and fingers instead of wrist then?
@mojodrum3215
@mojodrum3215 3 жыл бұрын
@@pdxfunk Yes it's fingers but also you need to control the bounce the wrist have larger muscles than the fingers this is why you have to change to the fingers when you feel the wrist are starting to struggle.
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
@pdxfunk Yes definitely you need to switch to palm and fingers, but there's a catch - the fulcrum needs to remain solid and static, while the other fingers, like pinky and ring fingers, need to open and close respectively. The whole point is to harvest the bounce the stick wants to do all the while keeping the fulcrum static. I always tell my students, to think of each hit as something that happens upwards, not downwards. This way you're actually using the inertia of the stick, rather than absorbing it. It's really hard to explain in a comment, I hope this does justice.
@pdxfunk
@pdxfunk 3 жыл бұрын
@@DrumApe Thank you for the explanation. I think this makes sense. I will have to keep working at it! I definitely think I am getting the idea of the subtle hand drop that starts the tap at higher speed. Slowing your zoomed in video down on KZfaq is helpful for this! In the end, nothing beats practice though.. Sometimes when working on something, if I just come back again the next day, it comes easier! Thanks again for your help. I wish I had had a teacher like you when I was learning drums as a kid!!
@ajithbabu9169
@ajithbabu9169 3 жыл бұрын
Sir I Subscribed
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ajith, I appreciate it!
@metaldrummer1977
@metaldrummer1977 4 жыл бұрын
Top
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 4 жыл бұрын
It's a long way if you wanna rock and roll :D
@Maelthorn1337
@Maelthorn1337 Жыл бұрын
Nice clean, concise, well written and edited video! But please don't ask me to like it or give you money before I've even seen it. :v
@TheBollibolli
@TheBollibolli 8 ай бұрын
u have a right grip, no hole between thumb and index.. but it still works? is it fine to not have the space? bcus i find it more easier not to have the space, what do you think?
@musicloverrythamist5821
@musicloverrythamist5821 8 ай бұрын
❤❤❤
@topa1798
@topa1798 3 жыл бұрын
Smashhh!!!
@deathruddlesdeathruddles5438
@deathruddlesdeathruddles5438 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid dude, did you ever make the second part hinted in the video?
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
Hi deathruddles, this video is actually the second part to another video about double stroke roll I made. It comes up as a card during this one.
@deathruddlesdeathruddles5438
@deathruddlesdeathruddles5438 3 жыл бұрын
@@DrumApe ah sweet, so you cover how to do the wrist finger bounce for faster doubles in that vid?
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 3 жыл бұрын
@@deathruddlesdeathruddles5438 It's about how to make diddles, or double strokes, also a bit about fingers: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pLxnjNN3r7jZe4k.html
@deathruddlesdeathruddles5438
@deathruddlesdeathruddles5438 3 жыл бұрын
@@DrumApe fantastic dude! Really struggling with doubles/diddles! That vid looks perfect. Thanks for the content!
@musicloverrythamist5821
@musicloverrythamist5821 8 ай бұрын
Sir, how many days should you exercise?
@sjeggy6
@sjeggy6 2 жыл бұрын
So frustrating after 12 years to have to re-learn this! I removed my fingers from the sticks when i used rebound and god now i feel like I'm starting over but i am damn sure it's worth it Great tips!
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 2 жыл бұрын
Hi sjeggy6, I agree it can be frustrating and take a long time to develop, but once you do you should be able to integrate this into your playing and should notice general improvement to your endurance and groove. Cheers!
@sjeggy6
@sjeggy6 2 жыл бұрын
@@DrumApe it's going a lot faster than expected! 2 weeks in and I'm already getting up to speed but rediscovering a rebound feel and upping left hand strength... Man hahaha What is the biggest shame I'd that i went to a music school and graduated from it and in all that time my tutor never pointed it out to me when she taught me rebounds! But not holding the sticks when bouncing really limits the potential of rebound
@DrumApe
@DrumApe 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds great man, in a couple of months you’ll be flying
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