How to Improve Your Writing with Copywork
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@AProbablyPostman 2 жыл бұрын
Started doing 10 minutes of copywork every morning, it's almost like meditation.
@BenjaminMcEvoy 2 жыл бұрын
That's awesome. You're right! It is very similar to meditation. It's calming and grounding :) Nice way to start the day.
@zenstories Жыл бұрын
Yes, I also use it as a meditative practice. Right now I am copying The Sun Also Rises by Ernest Hemingway (the Danish translation)
@thebarky1988 Жыл бұрын
Do you mean you wrote out the entire books?? That is beyond impressive. I just discovered your channel and you are motivating me!!
@renzostefanmp7937 3 жыл бұрын
I came here from your blog post about the question "Is it too late to start writing?". At the end of it you punched me in the face with the hard truth: people like me tend to ask this question because of insecurity and fear to try to write, it's something very human being afraid of new endeavours, but we need to accept the fact that questions like that reflect some unspoken excuses that we have to get rid of. What's funny is that I'm 23, wtf! Thank you for that post, it was necessary. Ps: I enjoy your video about the copywork technique, I was already doing it but wasn't conscious of it, I just liked to write down fragments of my favorite readings and stretched them long enough and always ended up copying the whole thing haha. *Ps 2. Sorry for my English
@BenjaminMcEvoy 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for coming over, Stefan! I'm so glad you got some value out of that post :) Channel those human fears into your writing!! 23 is still so young!! George R. R. Martin didn't hit it big with his writing until his 60s ;)
@claduke 3 жыл бұрын
I read about this in the Boron Letters, trying to learn about how to hone my writing, and I didn’t quite understand the reasoning. When you connected it to practicing scales and slowing down phrases in music, it really clicked, since I was a band kid in high school/college. Thanks for all that you do!
@BenjaminMcEvoy 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Cody! Ah, yes, this brings me back to the Gary Halbert challenge that circulated amongst copywriters some years back!
@StudioNostalgik Жыл бұрын
For me, I want to study Cormac MacCarthy's description, Clive Barker's detail, Elmore Leonard's dialogue, Chandler's delivery. I feel like putting them together would create taut, tight contrast against beautiful description.
@raonei2339 Жыл бұрын
I have a friend who writes great poetry and he sat down an entire summer to copywrite the Norse Eddas. I thought it was because of dedication, but I can see how clever he was by doing so.
@Rikabunneh Жыл бұрын
Amazing. I should give it a shot myself..been meaning to for quite sometime now.
@abrahemsamander3967 3 жыл бұрын
It’s really cool you learned copywork through copywriting, most resources mentioning copywork, well second most(first being homeschooled) is copywriting.
@BenjaminMcEvoy 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting stuff - I certainly got into the copywriting world for a while!
@TVwriter23 7 ай бұрын
Especially those who lean toward Charlotte Mason
@fragwagon 3 ай бұрын
I'm copying out Master and Commander. The first chapter alone is a master class in character.
@BenjaminMcEvoy 3 ай бұрын
Beautiful choice :) I love the the Aubrey-Maturin novels!
@ianayris 2 жыл бұрын
Love this - as I do all your videos. Have been published a few times, and teach Creative Writing courses, also play guitar - but never once has it struck me about practice. Your analogy of a musician practicing scales and a writer copying from one of the greats completely blew my mind. I'm going for my three favourites: Dickens, Hemingway and Walt Whitman. Thank you for everything you do, mate. It is truly appreciated : )
@SkyrimFanForever1 Жыл бұрын
I felt very inspired by this: I’m going to try Hemingway, Kafka, and David Foster Wallace. Three of my favorites. I’ll be copying The Broom in the System, The Sun Also Rises, and the Metamorphosis. I think it’ll be interesting to see how they blend together
@hamidjanov Жыл бұрын
how is the progress going? did you see differences on your writing.
@hewhomakesnosound Ай бұрын
Hows the progress homie?
@adampearson1541 Жыл бұрын
I started doing this a month ago. So far I’ve used Faulkner, Flannery O Connor, Dostoyevsky, and Cormac McCarthy. For todays copy work, I might do Don Delillo.
@aminmarkets8195 Жыл бұрын
Amazing work! Your passion and insight are so beneficial
@ralphjeugene4359 3 жыл бұрын
This is very authentic and educative. HANDS DOWN! Benjamin.
@BenjaminMcEvoy 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Ralph!
@LapissHamster Жыл бұрын
Awesome video! :D I was looking for a more detailed explanation!
@barbaravoss7014 Жыл бұрын
Other copy-worthies: Margaret Atwood, Annie Proulx, Donna Tartt ad Joyce Carol Oates (to name just a few).
@monik7614 2 ай бұрын
donna tartt indeed.
@sarahdias6477 3 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for this educative video.It was the need of the hour.
@BenjaminMcEvoy 3 жыл бұрын
You're so welcome :)
@TS.W 3 жыл бұрын
Sir, what you NEED to do is voice-over/acting work with that voice of yours. 👏🏾
@BenjaminMcEvoy 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Sir :)
@designedwarrior 8 ай бұрын
THIS IS WONDERFUL THANKS
@randomnumbers84269 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. I've been doing this with LOTR but it's good that you pointed out memorizing longer passages. I've almost subconsciously noticed that the more words I copy at a time, the more solid it feels. I'll start writing one sentence now.
@MartaEden1 28 күн бұрын
I love this idea. I started doing something very similar recently, simply to improve my English and I love this take on it. I will definitely try it!
@adriancirstei765 6 ай бұрын
This a great exercise. It reminds me of the classical writing rhetoric curriculum in antiquity (look up for progymnasmata). There the students have exercises in which they copy the content of work in their style and also write different content in the style of a certain author.
@sacomma3308 3 жыл бұрын
I like the way you talk! Really curious on your life experience to be able to talk like this
@BenjaminMcEvoy 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I think I've done a little bit of living in my time :)
@johnm3066 5 ай бұрын
Holy moly didn't expect to see you ever again, esp. after searching for "copywork" but here we are and I'm not the least bit surprised.
@vilmundurgunnarsson3904 3 жыл бұрын
Gonna try this for Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
@den4980 2 жыл бұрын
I've started doing this with Knut Hamsun's Hunger. Afterwards I want to move onto Dostoevsky and Dumas. I plan to write about a character in dreary Dostoevsky-like circumstances that goes on a Dumas type of adventure. It seems like a fun/interesting juxtaposition.
@BenjaminMcEvoy 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice! Great line up: Knut Hamsun, Dostoyevsky, and Dumas - what a nice crossbreed of narrative styles. A Dostyevskian character in Dumas’ world - I love that!
@melissahouse1296 2 жыл бұрын
I just have to jump in on this slightly dated comment: Daniel i love that mix / juxtaposition.. i still have to read Hamsun (on my shelf) but the combo of the other two...sounds like a blast! best of luck🤩 👍
@john_colter Ай бұрын
Short stories of Ray Bradbury are wild & visionary. I like your technique. Very useful! Thanks!
@abrahemsamander3967 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve loved your blog. And I’ve known about copywork for a while too. Great to see your doing videos, and it’s nice to see all the copywork you’ve done! So glad there’s more exposure for copywork as a tool for adults.
@BenjaminMcEvoy 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Abrahem! You've made my day :) Copywork + poetry memorisation = killer tools for writers!!
@abrahemsamander3967 3 жыл бұрын
Great! I loved your poem video as well! Gonna comment on it.
@catherineknight317 3 жыл бұрын
@@BenjaminMcEvoy what resources do you suggest for poetry memorization (again for young kids)?
@BenjaminMcEvoy 3 жыл бұрын
@@catherineknight317 Hi Catherine :) I would recommend a volume edited by Harold Bloom called 'Stories and Poems for Extremely Intelligent Children of All Ages'. The poems are divided up by season, and there are some really lovely, fun ones in there! :) The poems are short, child-friendly, and perfect for memorisation.
@catherineknight317 3 жыл бұрын
@@BenjaminMcEvoy wow that's extremely helpful!! Thank you! My son is currently memorizing Robert Frost's Stopping by Woods on a Snowy Evening, and passages from A Midsummer Night's dream... he loves it... an advantage of homeschooling! But i'm definitely wanting to start some copywork!
@reaganwiles_art 2 жыл бұрын
Henry Miller was fired from the Paris Tribune where he worked third shift with his friend Alfred Perles, for getting caught copying out The Antichrist by Nietzsche on his typewriter. Another thing that really got me about Miller, who's work I adore, is that his style is not quite the surrendered original HM voice which I had thought it was. Tropic of Cancer is not quite in his full running style. I did not realize how unoriginal it was until I read Journey to the End of the Night by Louis Ferdinand Celine. Miller scrapped the penultimate version of Tropic of Cancer having read Journey to the End of the Night and rewrote it and then gave it to his publisher.
@jameshamill4709 4 жыл бұрын
Currently I've been doing Ray Bradbury. He was greatly inspired by Edgar Allan Poe, L. Frank Baum, and Edgar Rice Burroughs, as well as the science fiction magazine, Amazing Stories. So, hopefully, as a fringe benefit I'll cannibalize them as well. I'm doing the shorter stories of The Martian Chronicles (1950) in their entirety, key moments from Fahrenheit 451 (1953) that seem to stand out as I read through it, and shorter chapters from Dandelion Wine (1957). I know I really should be focusing on his short stories, for which he's primarily known, as opposed to his novels but it's what I have in front of me right now. I'm also doing Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde by R.L. Stevenson. I'm interested in trying something similar with comic book writing. Perhaps by reading a comic and then writing a script based off that. Oh! I could do that with films as well. Damn.
@BenjaminMcEvoy 4 жыл бұрын
Nice one, James. I picked up Edgar Rice Burroughs because Bradbury spoke so lovingly about him. John Carter, Warlord of Mars, and Tarzan - such wonderful stories. Great idea to do it with comics too! You might like to check out Bradbury's favourite comic strip, Buck Rogers. I personally like anything by Jeff Lemire (Black Hammer, Gideon Falls, Trillium). I must say I've been meaning to use Stevenson myself - such a clean writer. A joy to learn from! Thanks for the great comment!
@abrahemsamander3967 3 жыл бұрын
Nice choice! I’m gonna try copywork of some pulp stories myself. Mainly Robert e Howard.
@abrahemsamander3967 3 жыл бұрын
Valentin. Wow, nice work. I wish you luck! One day, after I’ve done easier forms of copying, I’ll try and do it.
@brunotavares342 2 ай бұрын
This reminded me so much of the Pierre Menard short story by Borges.
@captainnolan5062 Жыл бұрын
Off the top of my head, of 20th century authors, I would choose: J.R.R. Tolkien, Ray Bradbury and George R. R. Martin. I would add Dickens and Hardy for pre-20th Century influences.
@EMPANAO321 2 жыл бұрын
also it seems that a lot of great writers are translators, Jorge Luis Borges, julio cortázar, Armando Uribe, ungaretti, boudelaire are (i believe, i could be wrong with some of them lol) examples of that, so i guess i will start translating some dante or Leopardi to see if i get some of them into my writing, and also improve my language skills, my italian and spanish are weak (my English too lol)
@vitzbig 4 ай бұрын
I'm definitely going to try Hemingway and Fitzgerald. Thanks for the tip!
@BenjaminMcEvoy 4 ай бұрын
Fantastic choices! :)
@alexanderboukal5332 3 жыл бұрын
George R R Martin, Dean Koontz, Robert McCammon, J S Emuakpor, Kira Lees, Hayley Stone, A C Wise, Kent Nerburn, Harold Lamb, Shaila Abdullah, and Fyodor Dostoevsky
@brockatgmail 10 ай бұрын
I love this idea! I have been doing this in conjunction with a “commonplace book”. The Bible, Poems, Essays; etc,etc.
@pierreturmel8809 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting blog, Ben. I’ve been thinking along those lines for a while, but you give me the kick to do it. I’ll go with Camus, naturellement. And I’ll add Dostoevsky and Auster. Those three will more than fill up my cup.
@earlybird107 2 жыл бұрын
I think I can apply this to screen writing and song writing
@BenjaminMcEvoy 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!
@fc1984fc 2 жыл бұрын
A couple of authors that spring to mind are VS Pritchett and Norman Douglas.
@thetruth4654 2 жыл бұрын
For me Nietzsche, Dostoevsky, Tolstoy, John Keats, Percy Byshee Shelley, Walt Whitman and William Butler Yeats and William Shakespeare.
@user-gf8hl5sw5k 8 ай бұрын
Valuable advice! Going to try out with Arundhati Roy. She's intimidating and fascinating with her luscious style.
@zeusghosh3147 2 жыл бұрын
Chose Proust. I can see the changes my mind is going through.
@hafsaarsalan4489 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, Benjamin. I just picked up a book by Jeff Goins, and I started to copy it word by word in a word document. Will this practice take me anywhere?
@tvmc9887 2 жыл бұрын
Going to try this for George Orwell and Fyodor Dostoevsky
@BenjaminMcEvoy 2 жыл бұрын
Nice :) Great combo!
@RajmahendraR 3 жыл бұрын
What you thinkg about Ernest Hemingway i am just starting is Hemingway is good to start ?
@sethrakes1991 2 жыл бұрын
Another great exercise is to punch up sentences from writers you admire. Copy something down and simply try to imrpove it. Cut needless words and use vivid verbs and nouns. For example: The man ate fruit. Could become: The bounty hunter sucked each apple slice right off his knife.
@BenjaminMcEvoy 2 жыл бұрын
That's a great exercise. Thank you for sharing, Seth!
@williamwenholz3407 2 жыл бұрын
I think I will start copying Dostoyevsky to capture elements of internal torment/suffering. I respect Douglas Coupland’s ability to capture the essence of modernity. I love his books Hey Nostradamus and Life After God. Life After God is an incredible book filled with aphorisms that I think you should check out if you haven’t already.
@barbarajohnson1442 Жыл бұрын
Joan Didion would copy Hemingway's sentences !! So great to learn about Stevenson and Blake. Actually Rembrandt wanted to be Rubens!!! The power of influences. Lie cheat and steal🤣 Wonderful advice, thank you for the tips!!
@TheEllejohnson 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks this was helpful. Zora Neale Hurston for me! Should we choose the text and re write it daily?
@BenjaminMcEvoy 3 жыл бұрын
Fabulous choice! You could do it that way. I like to do different texts each day :)
@dillonkakumanu7308 2 жыл бұрын
I have a question! Say if you copy a short story and you do one paragraph everyday. Do you rewrite the previous paragraphs and rewrite the whole story after the end or just move on till the end and leave? Or just do different paragraphs from different books everyday?
@BenjaminMcEvoy 2 жыл бұрын
A little bit of everything - see what works for you :) copy out lines you love several times, or just pick up from where you left off, or do a patchwork approach - all valuable! Happy writing, Dillon!
@shelbysnellen725 26 күн бұрын
How many time do you copy a book by hand?
@mukarani7164 3 ай бұрын
I'm interested in doing copy work of persuasive writers like Ogilvy, what of oglivies works and others works would you reommend? Great video btw.
@user-xf1we9lm1e 2 жыл бұрын
I’m trying do the same with Dickens, Faulkner, Gabriel Garcia Marquez, Tolstoy and Victor Hugo, trying to blend all of them into my own voice. Wish me luck 🍀
@BenjaminMcEvoy 2 жыл бұрын
Wow - such a cool mix. Good luck :)
@mofopeolaleye8187 Жыл бұрын
Do you stop and analyse the techniques or do you just pick them up as you keep copying
@senpeix2z639 2 жыл бұрын
When I heard about being able to imitate a writer you respect, I instantly gravitated towards Haruki Murakami.
@Voyager759 Жыл бұрын
Okay, silly question but here it goes: How long it takes to see some results? Also how do you stay focused, and not drift away while copying :)?
@RyanMDanks 2 жыл бұрын
The brevity of Patterson, pacing of Flanagan, and imagery of Gaiman. I would love to combine these voices into one writer.
@BenjaminMcEvoy 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice :) I would like to read that combo!
@brunoteixeira9770 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video! Very educative. I wonder if doing copywork of translated works would be effective at absorbing an author's voice. Being a non-native English speaker, I would enjoy doing Hemingway's translated short stories, but I don't know to what extent would I be assimilating the translator's style instead.
@jgvvvideos360 3 жыл бұрын
Same question here.
@BenjaminMcEvoy 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Bruno! What language are you reading Hemingway in translation? I've thought that myself when it comes to Russian writers. The Pevear and Volokhonsky translators are close to the original, but surely I wouldn't be absorbing Tolstoy's voice himself.. Having said that, it seems as though you have perfect English. Why not copy Hemingway in the original? :)
@brunoteixeira9770 3 жыл бұрын
@@BenjaminMcEvoy Thank you :) I would indeed prefer copying Hemingway in the original. But, since I write fiction in Portuguese, I guess doing copywork in English would be equivalent to practicing guitar while trying to learn, say, ukulele. There might be some transfer in the learning process, but in many respects (word choice, for instance) it would be an entirely different exercise. On the other hand, copying translated works might not be very effective as far as absorbing an author's voice is concerned. Having said that, the Bible, the Odyssey and some other ancient classics we read today are all translations...
@jgvvvideos360 3 жыл бұрын
@@brunoteixeira9770 Are you Brazilian? I also write fiction in Portuguese. Right now I'm studying Stephen King's writings. The translations are great and certainly emulate part of your style. But they're different languages with different rhythms and sounds, and I get frustrated trying to learn it. I'm relatively new at this. Any tips?
@BenjaminMcEvoy 3 жыл бұрын
@@brunoteixeira9770 I love that analogy. And really astute observation. Apart from Shakespeare, I know I haven't personally read much that isn't a translation recently. And there is certainly such a huge degree of difference between translators - as is the case with the Bible and Homer, Dante and Cervantes, Proust and Tolstoy.
@inspirationlab1444 8 ай бұрын
I chose, Dickens because my work too is more character based.
@catherineknight317 3 жыл бұрын
What authors/books would you recommend for copywork for an 8 year old boy (who loves reading and writing!)?
@BenjaminMcEvoy 3 жыл бұрын
In addition to the 'Stories and Poems for Extremely Intelligent Children of All Ages' I mentioned in another comment, I think follow his interests. If he likes adventure stories, Robert Louis Stevenson has Treasure Island and Kidnapped (might be a bit of a challenge though). There's The Swiss Family Robinson, and the books of Edgar Rice Burroughs like Tarzan and Warlord of Mars. For something more current and YA-style, the Darren Shan vampire series is a lot of fun, as is Lemony Snicket's A Series of Unfortunate Events :)
@BenjaminMcEvoy 3 жыл бұрын
@@catherineknight317 If he's enjoying Harry Potter, that would work perfectly :)
@mikeramsay5964 2 жыл бұрын
I should have watched this before I commented on the last video of yours I watched. Guess I'll copy Fitzgerald and Hemingway and DeLillo for starters.
@MP-cv6if Жыл бұрын
Man I thought I was the only one who wanted to copy out beautiful works by hand
@SNair819 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to copy William Wordsworth and Toni Morrison and Joyce (Dubliners)
@BenjaminMcEvoy 2 жыл бұрын
Nice choices, Sagar :)
@user-oq7kx5qg4p 10 ай бұрын
by "by hand" it means pen and paper or can I type it out?
@tjthreadgood818 9 ай бұрын
Just my uninformed opinion, but I would guess if you spend equivalent time, whatever your normal method of writing should probably be good. At first, I was thinking hand writing might be best, and in some ways that’s probably the case. But I use voice to text a lot and conceivably if you spend the same amount of time doing that you’re going to be copying a lot more material so that might have benefits too.
@benpessoa4013 2 жыл бұрын
If you enjoy this, you'd love translating.
@BenjaminMcEvoy 2 жыл бұрын
I used to do a little and loved it - engages the same part of my brain as chess and puzzles.
@Joshua.B.Buzzard Жыл бұрын
I'm going to start with Jack Kerouac's On The Road. I love the voicing of that book. His insane transitions between poetic voice to colloquial are blunt and shocking, in a good way. Though I wouldn't structure a novel like him, I admire the power and flexibility of his voice.
@BenjaminMcEvoy Жыл бұрын
Awesome choice, Joshua! I love Kerouac's On the Road. His writing style is superb :) I love how you've described it - 'insane transitions between poetic voice to colloquial'. Perfectly put!
@dragonchr15 2 жыл бұрын
Hemingway....without a doubt A Farewell to Arms had some of the best and simplest prose ever. That is the style that fits me - straight and to the point and using simple words.
@floriandiazpesantes573 3 жыл бұрын
Blimey, Ben, do you ever sleep or have a pint in a pub? All these fascinating things you do. I shall try though this your recommended technique.
@BenjaminMcEvoy 3 жыл бұрын
Sleep - sometimes. A pint - quite rarely :) But I do enjoy a hike through nature or the occasional spa!
@albertorodriguez6287 Жыл бұрын
Joseph O'Neill
@laura-leevernon8725 2 жыл бұрын
I'm choosing C.S. Lewis, Tolkien and Agatha Christie
@BenjaminMcEvoy 2 жыл бұрын
Nice choices :)
@kellynonicr856 2 жыл бұрын
Ima try Stephen king
@sarahdias6477 3 жыл бұрын
Can we choose translated works of Fyodor Dostoevsky?
@BenjaminMcEvoy 3 жыл бұрын
Of course!
@sarahdias6477 3 жыл бұрын
@@BenjaminMcEvoy But they aren't written originally in English.They are translated by Richard pevear.
@BenjaminMcEvoy 3 жыл бұрын
@@sarahdias6477 If you like how they rendered it, go for it - you can still get the pacing and many other facets of writing!
@sarahdias6477 3 жыл бұрын
@@BenjaminMcEvoy okay👍👍
@lydiakeerl6717 9 ай бұрын
Bible!
@chemalcolmx 7 ай бұрын
I'll start with James Baldwin
@BenjaminMcEvoy 7 ай бұрын
Great choice!
@bryanrussell4613 2 жыл бұрын
Great idea! That is what Hunter S Thompson did. And that's what you, the watcher of this video, should do too. Since I'm a writer and I am copying other writers to improve my writing, my suggestion is to copy Great brilliant writers and do it word-for-word front to back over and over. You will improve what Stephen King calls your tools: Vocabulary Grammar Style. It'll help you clean off the rust like Stephen says in On Writing. Here are some great authors you need to copy and improve your tools. Warning! Some of these authors are strict about plagiarism. So my suggestion is to throw the copies away. Here we go: Harlan Ellison C. S. Lewis Gillian Flynn E. T. A. Hoffmann H. P. Lovecraft Edgar Allan Poe and Arthur Conan Doyle. Remember: imitation is the sincerest form of flattery that mediocrity can pay to greatness. -Oscar Wilde
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