Heavy topspin at the lower levels is BRUTAL. Amazing how many points can be won just by hitting heavy topspin near the baseline a couple times in a row.

Thanks, it helps a lot in improving my forehand even though I’m 63 .

I play with tension, especially when I’m playing matches. I understand the need to loosen up but I revert back to playing tight over and over again. Your drills seem really helpful, especially the one at the net just trying to hit the ball inside the service line. I’ve gotta start somewhere!

What a great video guys...and thanks for the gift at the end! I always thought that you guys were already giving us many gifts (your video instructions) but now this is another level. BTW, loving the video format and production quality, you've totally stepped it up! Cheers!

Thanks Scott and Nate. This shot is vital to have in your arsenal. Hitting heavy deep balls are great for pushing opponents back! My doubles partner and I set up cones and practice drills hitting heavy deep balls into the court.

Great! I like it that you also suggest drills, not just explain the technique! Thank you!

Most detailed/informative video I've seen about this. And I've searched up "how to put more topspin" a LOT of times.

Liked the very clear and well structured explanations and demonstrations. Nice job guys.

Great video guys, I think that episode will help a lot of people out . I played Div I a long time ago and just getting back into playing again after kids. Currently having issues with my forehand so this definately made me think of the swing plane a bit more than maybe I was as I never really thought that much about it. Great content from guys who know what there talking about, cheers :)

Loved your video very helpful and look forward to trying it out tomorrow!

Thanks for this video. I just went over this yesterday and looking for ways to improve. One player said always aim to go the height of the racquet higher after you get the 4'-6' height. Great stuff, thank you!

7:20 The Dennis Van Der Meer drop feed drill of standing 6 feet from the net and hitting into the service box is good...The next progression might be to drop feed standing just one foot from the net and **aim for the baseline**. Will practically be forced to hit with topspin drop feeding that close to the net!

Really clear and concise info guys.

Very helpful info...looking forward to getting back on the court.

Brilliant 👏

Excellent explanation 👍 Thank you guys!

Wow! That's a great practice video

I have an eastern grip coming here and was worried, so seeing scott demonstrate heavy topspin even with an eastern grip helps my confidence with this.

good stuff

The free tutorial in the link was so helpful, thank you!

Great tips, thank you.

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great video thanks

one way I understand spin is though the bamboo chopper. If I want to spin a bamboo chopper, I will neet to snap it from its stick but instead of pushing its wings. The point is the more nearer I can reach the spining axis, the greater spin I may produce. Same story for tennis, to create greater spin, I need to reach the core of the tennis instead of rubbing it from its surface. So before brushing up, I will need to strike hard and deform the ball. When the ball is realatively flat, I get nearest to its core and only by that moment, the brush-up would work the best to create spin.

Thanks Sir.🎾👍

Nice lesson Guys !!!

Thanku very much

Very helpful guys, thanks for this! I do think though on any KZfaq videos I've watched that not enough/any emphasis is put on pushing off with the leg. That entails getting to your spot, having your balance and being able to drop your body a bit first. Most just talk about dropping the racket and keeping loose, but really it all starts with the big muscles (as do all sports movements), and the rest just follow along. I think that is why I am here today, I can hit my forehand hard (I'm a 4.5) but I find it often is too flat and I can't control it. But by watching your form I see the leg pushoff. Just wanted to add my 2 cents!

I really need to learn to hit heavy top spin This was very helpful.

Amazing!

great video guys

Superb🎾

Funny that this is the 1st video I’ve seen that I’ve used throwing a racket to help students learn this.. nice to see ..

I have caught up . Thanks

Good stuff

Love your videos,

Thank you for this awesome video! And thank you a lot for the link! I was going to ask you guys how can I work on accelerating faster up the ball and how can I make it more “heavy” and not as much spinny. Thank you guys for ur time and keep up all the great work!

Probably the best video on how to hit a heavy topspin

Moving up from intermediate level... This is exactly what i am looking for.

Thanks for this, a very clear and useful explanation. If we were talking percentages, hat would you say is the usual/optimal power reduction you’d apply to heavy forehands compared to a full-paced flat forehand? I often find my heavy forehands ‘loop’ a little too much at the elevations you demonstrated here. I’d like to know whether to push for more power, or perhaps focus on the spin a little more. The low racket head you demo’s could be the key. Looking forward to trying it.

Great video, as usual. I would love to see how to modify this swing for high balls!!!!! I get into a Heavy ball vs. Heavy ball rally. Swings at head level-how do you find a slot position there???? My form breaks down at that point.

Great vid guys 👍🏻

Great,super great : Like the drills and the slowing down at the end of the shot. The big "bonus" doing the heavy ball is make it easier to creat angels ? Bedst from Denmark.

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good people

Yes hitting heavy top spin is not easy ,but keep in mind many top pros are using XL xtra long racquets to help generate heavy top. Racquets that are longer than the standard 27 inch length are considered XL models,Nadal,Del Potro,Schwartzman, Serena all use XL racquets. And now a very easy modification to ANY RACQUET can add half an inch making any racquet a XL version of itself. By simply removing the factory butt cap on bottom if your standard racquet and installing the XTP Xtended Tennis Product butt cap you can easily add half an inch, for extra Tourqe and spin. Normally top customizers charge 125.00 for this but you can install the XTP yourself or have your local tennis shop do it for much much less. Thx.j

Low to high swing path for topspin makes sense! Especially for rec players... There also appears to be an advanced technique used by Federer whereby he hits topspin with an essentially linear swing path, i.e. his swing path for topspin shots is not much steeper than his flat shots. Maybe we can see a video on that.

Great video, how about follow through, any tips?

Hi, wonderful video, i'll try to put it into practice, i've never been able to spin my forehand, it always comes out stoned.

H22 and 4G string are the perfect combo for spinning the world around

Pushers hate heavy topspin. I find a pusher loves nothing more than a hard flat shot they can deflect. A combination of a deep heavy ball with a short skidding slice up the middle drives a pusher and grinder nuts. Makes me smile just thinking about it lol.

Thank , i quite weak and creat ball not hard for return.

Will try it next time againt better hitter.

Hi thank so much for your video. In another you say to use "kiss on biceps", today i play very well but my ball always is flat. I will try technique of kiss biceps. Thanks so much.

Use heavier racquet?

Can u hit FAST top spin ball?

Great video, but the one thing most coaches forget to talk about when teaching how to hit heavy topspin to 3.0 to 4.0 players is racquet face control. The whole low to high, racquet lag thing is great and correct, but must also include that the angle of the racquet face at contact must be maintained as vertical. It is not tilted top-forward to create topspin (this is often mis-described as "hitting over the top of the ball"), and definitely not tilted up, bottom-forward (that would create launch), but rather it must be maintained relatively vertical, because the ball's direction when it leaves the racquet is more influenced by the direction the strings are facing when they strike the ball than by the path of the swing. The low to high creates the desired topspin, but the racquet face at contact must be maintained relatively vertical to create the proper direction of shot. This is often misunderstood by recreational players on the lower end of the player rating scale and something that will speed up the process of learning to hit topspin when understood and applied correctly.

Is that a blade pro you are using verses a regular blade? If so how do you like it? Thanks for the video

The hip leads but the shoulder initiates acceleration. You have to mention that otherwise people are just going to be throwing their hips at the ball with no other action going on.

Does anyone know where I can buy the Wilson t-shirt which Scott is wearing? Thanks.

how would you call a shot (forehand o backgamd) wich is heavy but it comes with a low bounce?

Thanks for the lesson. I've noticed that a lot of players, even a little on the video, when they hit with topspin tend to put the bodyweight backwards. Doing this will definitely produce topspin but not with enough punch. Also is an incredibly exhausting exercise. If a boxer put his weight backwards to punch an opponent he can still punch but not very heavy. Can you produce topspin putting your weight forward?

Amazing pointers. But is that really an eastern grip? I’m not sure. But if that is eastern, then I have a continental forehand.

Nate, when you are playing the ad court in doubles, do you use the heavy forehand frequently?

At 8:12 how could you differentiate between Scott just hitting lighter vs actually adding topspin? I have that type of exercise in my warm up but when it comes to match play I find myself going more flat. @PlayYourCourt

What is the best grip to help a 3.0 player hit more forehand topspin?

Whether wrist and forearm should be bent or kept straight throughout the forehand shot?

Number 2 on the advantages should be number 1. Number 1 sometimes becomes compromised because intermediates tend to hit shorter when attempting a heavy forehand.

What about string tension, how much does it affect the spin? I use a poly tour pro ( string tension 55lb) on a yonex ezone 100. The balls fly off court even with the softest hit.

What would be the ideal height on incoming ball for you to hit the heavy forehand ?

5:45... i know its just for demonstration but the ball was way too high even w topspin imo and it didnt even land inside the court 😢

It is clear that you have a semi-western or western grip. Despite your claim that Scoot is using an Eastern grip in parts of the video, it does not seem to be the case. Can a heavy ball be produced with a less extreme grips? I struggle with my forehand. I have made some in-roads by moving to a more eastern grip but there is still not much progress in my efforts to modernize my forehand. It is still relatively flat and not enough net clearance. Help!!!

How to find the forehand mastery link?

Can you demo same stroke with eastern grip?

Sometimes I mess up and it hits the net or it goes so far up and out of the area

A heavy ball can be hit with topspin or in a linear fashion (flat or slice). To say otherwise is to say that previous generations couldn’t hit heavy, which is utter rubbish. Heaviness didn’t arrive with heavy topspin. A heavy ball pushes your racket back and / or goes off at a tangent unless your contact point and acceleration are good. A heavy ball also seems to accelerate after the bounce (it doesn’t - it just doesn’t decelerate as much because of good technique, so the second bounce is much further from the initial bounce). Two (relatively) modern players who hit heavy balls but in vastly contrasting ways are Nadal and Berdych. There are numerous female players who hit heavy balls but relatively flat (Kvitová and the Williams sisters, to name but three). What you were discussing was height and depth, which is important, but is a totally different thing to a heavy ball. I can hit the fence / curtain at the back of the court by hitting the ball flat at the right trajectory (not heavy). If I hit it correctly, I can also hit the fence / curtain at the back of the court with a slice backhand that doesn’t rise above your knees after the bounce (heavy). Please don’t confuse height and depth with heaviness, although you can hit high, deep and heavy. You’re correct in stating that fast and heavy are two different things. The key difference between a fast or high and deep ball versus a heavy ball is that you can deflect or bunt the former, whereas you need to play through a heavy ball (this doesn’t always mean a full swing - it’s hard to take a full swing at a 130 mph serve). Spin on its own won’t produce a heavy ball - just an over spun ball that doesn’t do enough to trouble your opposition.

I’m continually jamming myself and getting too close to the ball when I’m hitting it and it’s causing a lot of out/net shots, is there a specific way of keeping distance or a way of keeping you arm extended without over extending?

control finnish. thank you.

I like the drill where you physically get closer to the net and hit baby top spin shots..

I clicked on the link and was sent to page that said "you caught us on our heels." Is this free or what?

Every time I've tried this, I hit the tennis ball over the fence! Home run! .. but wrong sport. 😥

6:46 did hurt

Disclaimer: No racket was destroyed in this video.

Two nice cool guys with good-looking beard. So articulate.

Can we have a moment of silence for the rackets tossed in this video? 😭

Not everyone llikes to play with a semi western grip Roger Federer has the best forehand and also one of the fastest and all this with an eastern forehand grip

The video is good for beginners to learn how to hit topspin and keep opponents back (very important!), but those shots have no weight to them. What gives it away? The guy is using too much arm, and not enough legs.

Anyone try the course? Is it any good? And do they send lots of spam emails? 😂

Out. 0:40

This is a "Poor Man's Heavy Ball". More like a Moon Ball strategy to create the depth rather than racquet head speed (to name just one other variable). Yes you're increasing top spin by the nature of the racquet trajectory just to keep the ball in but you're simply telegraphing the lower ball speed by the height and a good player can easily counteract a moon ball and attack it. Creating a Heavy ball should not involve hitting a ridiculously high ball. It involves a lot more science than you've eluded to here.

All that effort hitting heavy spin and Scott just taps the ball back to you like he’s just got out of bed 😴😴😴😴😴

Why peope pronounce height as heighth

I use this app it’s pretty legit but the rating system is wack

Wow try to sign up for free video and never went thru.

maybe the Russian players could change their nationality ?

Less talking more showing i am falling asleep

No men, black socks, that is no possible.

Thanks guys, just one comment, call me old school or whatever name you want, but wearing black shocks on sport outfit is really not eye pleasing to me. Please wear white socks handsome guys !

You talked too much.

...even at club level first team - that forehand is only used in warm uo rallies, otherwise in matches - this slow forehand will be smacked silly...