How to install a Maestro Vibrola on a Gibson SG standard 2009. Music: All Guitars in track are recorded with this SG after the mod.
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@hectorgarcia93503 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Came here looking to see if an SG with a fixed bridge could be fitted with a vibrola. Got that answer and some good tips on guitar building/modding in general
@bobvanlieshout1423 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 🤩
@markteasdale9283 Жыл бұрын
That why many people suck at communicating in general these days
@jonathanlingo85053 жыл бұрын
Thank you for not subjecting viewers to non essential chatter. Gives me a better idea on whether I want to do this or not. Thank you very much!
@jameshatch57223 жыл бұрын
I'm installing a short Maestro unit and a roller bridge on a Epiphone L P Mark2 Special next week. The tail piece anchors sit about 2 mm above the face of the body. Not planning on filling the holes🤠, but a great solution for grounding/ filling is flat top Allen/ hex/ star screws of the proper thread/ size. Just get the same finish as your trem, and adjust the height for contact.
@georgeohwell74283 жыл бұрын
For my FB VII, I modded the trem arm with sheet rubber and a few jazz picks turned into washers finished with a locking nut. It stays put very well.
@bobvanlieshout1423 жыл бұрын
Nice mod! 😃
@georgeohwell74283 жыл бұрын
@@bobvanlieshout142 The trick is to find the right bolt or use a thinner one( which is what I did).
@tjm54924 жыл бұрын
Bob, just teasing on the owl comment! Great vid...thanks to you, I have decided to add the trem system to a Firebird I am going to build.
@bobvanlieshout1424 жыл бұрын
Good luck! I hope my video is going help you with the built!😃
@jamesgiaquinto39073 жыл бұрын
I've been wanting to add the Maestro Vibrola on my firebird for a while but I can only find the ones that have the Gibson logo on ebay. Where did you buy yours?
@mikaelseghurt80625 жыл бұрын
Great video this help me a lot!!!
@thebetbetunderground95484 жыл бұрын
holy fuck man that looks really fuckin killer. cant wait to install my sg with the same vibrola! my only worry is that it might not stay in tune very well, but your video gave me a lot of hope...
@FretFriendGWaL3 жыл бұрын
Mark the two upper holes with an OWL hahahaaa Where do I get an owl? I'm installing one of these on a client SG today. Thank you so much for the video :) Victor...
@musicproductionvideos50192 жыл бұрын
Great video. I bought a Maestro clone on eBay (long tail) to put on my lefty SG 60's Tribute, but the shop here in Nashville just said the neck angle is not right for it. The bridge is set for good low action... and the bridge is too low like that to have proper downward pressure on the top of the Maestro. Can't seem to find info on how high the bridge would need to be for it to work (angle of the neck is not easy to measure)... so I can find my next SG and make it happen. The only Gibson lefties with the vibrolas are out of my price range. Any idea of what I could look for? What measurements are you speaking of in the comments... when you say to take measurements? How can I know? thanks!
@tone99302 жыл бұрын
Put one on my Gibson Firebird after seeing your vid. . They say it kills sustain. Nonsense, setup, and even more sustain. They say it will not stay in tune. Nonsense, setup, it will stay in tune. They say it looks killer. True, I agree. Cheers man, from NL, very cool vid. Thx!
@bobvanlieshout1422 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Bij mij blijft ze ook strak in tune🤩
@tone99302 жыл бұрын
@@bobvanlieshout142 Geweldig!
@frantisca4 жыл бұрын
"All Guitars in track are recorded with this SG after the mod.": so it sounds like it stays in tune pretty well... ? Thanks for the upload: looks stunning ! \m/
@bobvanlieshout1424 жыл бұрын
Cool Rene it does! I did a lot of mods and also did a good set up. Even with heavy vibrating the trem it stays in tune very well.
@cottage_pie2 жыл бұрын
Awesome. I just got one for my guitar. I might just take mine to a luthier tho. But is there a way to cover the holes on the side? I thought it would cover that. I mean I guess functionality is more important which is why I got it but my OCD 😬
@jeonghoochoi7 ай бұрын
Thank you for a great guiding video! One question, doesn't it lose its grounding when you pull up the vibrola arm and make a big ground noise or zap your hand?
@rainshadowband316110 ай бұрын
Love my '61 Reissue Gibson SG, but man was it unplayable from the factory. Beautiful finish, neck made me WANT to play on, and it just looks great all around. It's just a disappointment that Gibson offers these with Vibrola (like I bought) but never addressed how easily they go out of tune. I so much as looked the Vibrola arm the wrong way and it's back to tuning the strings after EVERY SONG. Had to put in work to set it up with paying more money to upgrade the trash Gibson ABR-1 Bridge to rollers, locking tuners, and a sacrifice to the guitar gods that it would finally stay in tune (used nut sauce and all the other tips/tricks). All of that and I'm now happy to say I can play up to TWO songs before having to retune. Ended up getting an Epiphone SG to compare/contrast. I rarely reach for the Gibson one now and I'm gonna sell it in a couple months if the Epiphone keeps up staying in tune consistently. All I had to do with the Epiphone was swap out the PUPs with the Whole Lotta Humbuckers and she sings at my gigs! The Gibson SG looks a little better than the Epiphone SG, but get the Epiphone version if you're looking for tuning stability. The LP I got still sounds better than the Epiphone, though. It's a mixed bag.
@Specket Жыл бұрын
Great video! Where'd you find the tailpiece?
@joeyjoejoejrshabadoo43114 жыл бұрын
Great vid. How well does it stay in tune if you dont use the tremolo bar?
@bobvanlieshout1424 жыл бұрын
JoeyJoeJoe Jr Shabadoo I use it and it stays in tune very wel! If I don’t touch the trem it stays in tune to!
@FretFriendGWaL3 жыл бұрын
One thing I have noticed installing the Maestro on a client guitar is: the end strap pin is not on the centre line (it is 5-6mm too low). Make sure you take your centre-line from the neck and bridge not where the strap end-pin is! My Maestro is positioned correctly but the strap pin is not. I decided not to move the strap end-pin after the Maestro instrallation as it is not that important. Hope this helps someone. Victor...
@bobvanlieshout1423 жыл бұрын
Good solution! 😃
@markteasdale9283 Жыл бұрын
Yea... That would be bad
@rrrayrrray3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this video Bob. I apologize if someone has already asked the question but where did you get the vibrola assembly? Did you take it off another guitar or can you buy it from Gibson? Thanks!
@bobvanlieshout1423 жыл бұрын
I bought it from Crazyparts.de they have great vintage correct products!
@rrrayrrray3 жыл бұрын
@@bobvanlieshout142 Thank you!
@zeeqwan64772 жыл бұрын
Im wonder if there’s a way to install a vibrola without drilling like Bigsbys with vibramate
@angus91653 жыл бұрын
Hey man, great video. I’m thinking about buying the 2019 61 SG standard with the maestro vibrola and was wondering if putting a batwing pickguard on would be fine
@bobvanlieshout1423 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I think it will work!
@mariuszw96652 жыл бұрын
It would be awesome! I'm huge fan of batwing pickguard for SG, it looks way better than small pickguard in my opinion. Cherry Red SG Standard with the maestro vibrola and batwing pickguard = the best looking guitar ever.
@petergromlich65295 жыл бұрын
What holds the tremolo arm assembly in place? Is it just string tension? I'm talking about the the part with the slotted string holders that you slide on at about 8:02. I just got one of these tremolo units but haven't installed it yet. My arm assembly doesn't fit snugly at all and would fall out unless the string tension is enough to hold it in securely. Great video BTW!
@bobvanlieshout1425 жыл бұрын
Peter Gromlich that part you mean slides over the tailpiece frame, iT stays in place bij the tailpiece and string tension. On Some SG guitars the neck is at a wrong angle. Then this system won’t work. You need tension on your tune o matic bridge.
@petergromlich65295 жыл бұрын
@@bobvanlieshout142 That's what I thought. So the tension is enough to keep it firmly in place.
@bobvanlieshout1425 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@matthewkeegan57093 жыл бұрын
I really want to swap out the bigsby on my 1974 SG with a maestro but I don't think it would be practical enough
@oldnot-a-teletubbie22073 жыл бұрын
Awesome video man; could you explain a little more on like the ground wire and how to connect it? Is it like if I had the tailpiece touching the bushings it good? Thxs
@bobvanlieshout1423 жыл бұрын
The ground wire needs to be connected. The way you connect it doesn’t matter. I’ve upgraded my SG a couple of weeks ago and drilled a hole for the ground wire. In the video the tailpiece touches the bushing. This will be Allright but a cable with solder on the bridge will be your best solution.
@mrjamesgrimes Жыл бұрын
Very instructional
@totallyunmemorable2 жыл бұрын
A little late to the game here, but.... Did you notice any improvement in the guitar's balance? Did the head/neck heaviness change to any noticeable degree? I don't imagine you would know the weight of these parts, but would say they have some degree of heft to them or would you describe them as 'lightweight', let's say?
@bobvanlieshout1422 жыл бұрын
Yes! My SG always had a neckdive and that problem is solved with this geen. Iets not heavy weight but you will add some weight.
@EddieZep2 жыл бұрын
Is there really no way to cover those holes ? For examples with the screws of tune-o-matic?
@crispincoleman2 жыл бұрын
Where did you source your vibrola unit from? Cant find a genuine gibson one anywhere it seems.
@plantagenant4 жыл бұрын
I've never used one and I can't quite see how this works but when you use the trem doesn't it disengage from the surface of the guitar where it is grounding with the tail pin socket and consequently create grounding noise?
@bobvanlieshout1424 жыл бұрын
plantagenant all your answers are in the video. I decided that my tailpiece bushings where at the right place concerning my ground. When you pull the trem up this will disconnect and you will hear ground noise. BUT there is not one moment in my playing style that I even think about pulling the trem, because this system is not made to do that. It’s made to add small amounts of vibrato by lightly pushing it down. You can always drill a hole from the control socket to the tailpiece of the vibrola. That is the spot to connect your ground. Good luck!🤘🏼
@plantagenant4 жыл бұрын
@@bobvanlieshout142 Cheers for that. I have a Tokai Firebird that would look great with one.....next decision is whether to go for the rather pricey Gibson one or get a considerably cheaper Korean/chinese one...probably try the import one as I'm only going to give it a bit of a wobble now and then! :)
@bobvanlieshout1424 жыл бұрын
plantagenant I bought mine from www.crazyparts.de its an exact clone af a original Gibson tailpiece.
@jamesgiaquinto39073 жыл бұрын
Nice work. Where other than ebay do you buy the Maestro Vibrola? I would like on with the Gibson markings on the plate, most I've seen are plain.
@bobvanlieshout1423 жыл бұрын
I found mine on crazyparts.de
@jamiebruner84633 жыл бұрын
Ebay is where I got my epi vibrola
@jameshatch57223 жыл бұрын
Reverb.comm Getting a Lp/ SG make over parts🤠
@hardrockerdave943 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting! Did you notice much difference in the tuning stability with this on? And did it make any difference to the tone?
@bobvanlieshout1423 жыл бұрын
Yes and yes! It stays in tune better after a good set up. It sound more open, more crispy sparkles🤩
@frankwebster91106 ай бұрын
I'm contemplating doing a temporary install of just the plate with maybe some added weight inside of it using friction double-sided tape. Friction sticking as opposed to adhesive will ensure that I don't damage the nitro. Derek Trucks who is a world-class slide player did exactly that with his SG. All he has there is the ornamental piece and probably some extra weight as well in there. So I'm going to start with the Derek Trucks mod as I'm not a big fan of tuning my guitar every few minutes
@sirvidia3 жыл бұрын
how does it function at the end?
@arturom91453 жыл бұрын
What does the ground wire have to do with the Vibrola? Ive been thinking about installing one on my SG standard and im a bit confused.
@bobvanlieshout1423 жыл бұрын
Normally your groundwire is connected to your tailpiece, you need to make this connection in a other way.
@carltongadgettmannprice352 Жыл бұрын
Me to
@miguelshake2 жыл бұрын
It looks great even without the tailpiece cover
@AndreaAustoni Жыл бұрын
I don't have an owl. Can I use an awl instead? And no demo?
@vadilakglak69904 жыл бұрын
How did you adjust the lower part towards the strap button?
@bobvanlieshout1424 жыл бұрын
Vadilak Glak I think your answer is in the video. Starting at 2:35
@kevinsturges6957 Жыл бұрын
It’s beautiful. Does it stay in tune?
@bobvanlieshout142 Жыл бұрын
It does!
@tjm54924 жыл бұрын
Is the owl a hoot, snowy or barn variety?
@bobvanlieshout1424 жыл бұрын
tjm5492 it should have been "awl", of course.
@ericnightmare26953 жыл бұрын
You tune your guitar on its back and dont stretch your strings??
@drewhill4983 Жыл бұрын
Is the tail piece cover necessary for function or is it purely cosmetic?
@bobvanlieshout142 Жыл бұрын
Pure cosmetic
@memyself4ever14 жыл бұрын
How much do they charge for this type of service?????????? I want to do this with my SG.
@bobvanlieshout1424 жыл бұрын
memyself4ever1 that depends on who is doing the service. I’m based in the Netherlands.
@stevenchisari95643 жыл бұрын
I am possibly going to be getting a sg with the maestro vibrola from Gibson, ive heard some bad things about the tuning and was wondering if you knew any mods or tips to help fix this?
@bobvanlieshout1423 жыл бұрын
All Gibson guitars have got some tunings issues.. I think a good set up by a skilled luthier can help a lot. I always use big bends nut sauce on the nut and bridge and change the strings regularly. The meastro is a moving part so all points of possible friction need attention. Good luck!🤘🏼
@stevenchisari95643 жыл бұрын
@@bobvanlieshout142 alright, thanks you! im probably going to change the smaller pick guard to the big one as well. Ive done this on much, much cheaper guitars successfully before but doing it on one that’s like two grand that will probably be the most expensive guitar il ever own kinda scares me that ill damage the finish or something, any tips or something you know that could help me out here as well?
@bobvanlieshout1423 жыл бұрын
You can first work with a piece of paper. Just cut out the pickguard and use it als your format. Always be careful and go to a skilled luthier if you’re not sure about it.
@stevenchisari95643 жыл бұрын
@@bobvanlieshout142 thanks
@ricangus64 Жыл бұрын
Hi, where can I buy a chrome gibson vibrola maestro ? Thx.
@bobvanlieshout142 Жыл бұрын
I bought mine on crazyparts.de
@ATK101553 ай бұрын
I just recently bought the gibson 61 sg reissue in exclusive wine red and wanted to do this. The moment I saw the drill come out I removed the Vibrola from my purchase lmfao
@sicithepingu5 ай бұрын
Wanted to put a vibrola on my sg too but I don't want to drill it
@JackJames96484 жыл бұрын
how can you cover the old holes?
@bobvanlieshout1424 жыл бұрын
JackJames9648 the holes left by the stop rail? I think I would search for a piece of mahogany, paint it nitro cherry and try to fit it on top.
@JackJames96484 жыл бұрын
@@bobvanlieshout142 that s exactly what i wanted to know...if the vibrola wasn t so expensive i would have alredy taken to a luthier
@materimac11153 жыл бұрын
Would it be the same with an Epiphone SG
@bobvanlieshout1423 жыл бұрын
Depends on what type of Epiphone. Check out the rest of the comments. I think some guys had a discussion on this topic.
@eggieejames5 жыл бұрын
Would this work on an epiphone sg pro?
@bobvanlieshout1425 жыл бұрын
Eggiee James, I gues it would. Take Some good measurements before you start.
@xXToxicKillz97Xx5 жыл бұрын
Bob van Lieshout do you happen to know the screw sizes that are used to screw in the vibrola tail piece to the guitar?
@bobvanlieshout1425 жыл бұрын
xXToxicKillz97Xx i don’t know.. i gues they are around 3mm
@thebetbetunderground95484 жыл бұрын
really love the background music man...acdc goes grunge lol
@bobvanlieshout1424 жыл бұрын
Caverman thanks man! Trying my best🤩
@thebetbetunderground95484 жыл бұрын
@@bobvanlieshout142 you're welcome man, thanks for replying! is it okay if i ask ya something? i'm at a loss, there's too many info out there... what kind of pickups are you using? i'm looking to really upgrade my sg to make it my main guitar for life. aside from installing a maestro vibrola, i'm also planning on a pickup upgrade. currently the pickups are 57 classic pafs. it sounds good, but i'm yearning for heavier, hotter, harder, more aggressive sounds, and the 57 classics are a tad too timid and subdued for me, especially in the neck position. i'm looking into putting a P90 for the neck and an angus young signature/ SD JB sh4 for the bridge. do you think this will work? thanks a ton!!
@bobvanlieshout1424 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I use handwound PAF pickups in my SG. Sounds vintage and muddy. I used a Jeff Beck in a Strat and that pickup screams! You could also check out bare knuckle pickups. They are really awesome and heavy sounding!
@thebetbetunderground95484 жыл бұрын
@@bobvanlieshout142 wow, thank you for the reply man! alternatively, something tells me that i should just hot rod my sg with a set of seymour duncans. a jb sh-4 in the bridge and a jazz sh-2 in the neck. i just feel like it will work, but i'm not really sure 'cos i don't have a lot of experience with gear. anyway, thanks for the info man! i will be sure to check out bareknuckles. do you think they can they handle grunge-heavy gain bordering on chug-metal (think in utero era nirvana and black album era metallica)? update: i've done some research and apparently they're pickups designed for the more high-gain, high-output crowd, so yeah, they obviously can do nirvana/ metallica/ aic/ mtoley crue. my only concern is that there may be a possibility that it won't gel with my sg because of the thin body, mahogany wood, etc, as i've read in some threads -- could the body really affect the tone of the pickup that much? is it really that much of a dealbreaker? or will i get mindblowing sounds nonetheless with those kinds of pickps? they're pretty high-end so i guess i couldn't go wrong with them? again, thanks a ton!
@duesenbergguitarexperience41174 жыл бұрын
@@thebetbetunderground9548 I'm sure they can. Just take a look at there website and search for the Pickup that fits your sound.
@paoloflorian445 жыл бұрын
Where did you buy the Vibrola?
@bobvanlieshout1425 жыл бұрын
Sameron Cameron www.crazyparts.de
@angusyoung15824 жыл бұрын
Did it come with the arm??
@markteasdale9283 Жыл бұрын
Why not put both E strings on to get the proper alignment
@angusyoung15824 жыл бұрын
Where did you find that lyre Vibrola?
@bobvanlieshout1424 жыл бұрын
Angus Young www.crazyparts.de
@angusyoung15824 жыл бұрын
Cheers mate
@angusyoung15824 жыл бұрын
Ohh and did it come with the arm? Thanks mate
@bobvanlieshout1424 жыл бұрын
It came with the arm. I didn’t fill up the bushings because I like to maybe change it back someday.
@angusyoung15824 жыл бұрын
Bob van Lieshout ok cheers
@shahiradam82153 жыл бұрын
hey man can you show how to remove the vibrola only but not the tailpiece. it'll end up looking like angus young's sg at 1974. btw enjoyed the vid but unfortunately i can't do it XD
@bobvanlieshout1423 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, you can remove the arm by unscrewing the screw. Angus uses the vibrola tailpiece as his “stoptail” om that era. If you want it to look like Derek Trucks you will have to take out the vibrola system and put the tailpiece back on.
@shahiradam82153 жыл бұрын
@@bobvanlieshout142 can you do a tutorial
@Duenferra4 жыл бұрын
Where to buy one?
@bobvanlieshout1424 жыл бұрын
Duenferra www.crazyparts.de
@scottyhayes34482 жыл бұрын
Great vid!! Now to find a owl and a 10ft wrench..... :-)
@BakedNConfused Жыл бұрын
You still use this guitar ? Did you find yourself having tuning problems ?
@bobvanlieshout142 Жыл бұрын
I still use this guitar, with a proper set up done by a pro luthier this guitar doesn’t have any tuning issues.
@drjonsguitarrepair4 жыл бұрын
Where do you purchase this owl 🦉?
@bobvanlieshout1424 жыл бұрын
Jon Reynolds I bought it from www.crazyparts.de
@tenma24855 жыл бұрын
Can i install it in les paul?
@bobvanlieshout1425 жыл бұрын
I've never seen any Les Paul with a Maestro vibrola. I guess the tailpiece is too long for the body. I would recommend too put on a Bigsby!
@peteloomis84564 жыл бұрын
Schaller makes a trem system that will work on a Lespaul . I have looked at them on eBay at one time not long ago less than 200.00 for it if I remember plus it's made in Germany so it's built well ! They make them for the SG as well but they don't look as nice as a layer style tremolo but probably stays in tune better ! Or you could save up some money and buy a Alex Lifeson Lespaul that's set up with stereo wiring plus a Floyd Rose locking trem system on it !
@wolfgangwolfdogplaysguitar7012 жыл бұрын
Why do most people say that the maestro tremolo is useless?
@globalnova3 ай бұрын
Most people are useless. It works well for small wobbles and balancing the guitar and looking killer.
@MrPvinny773 жыл бұрын
Is there enough break angle to keep the strings in the saddles? The vibrola tailpiece is a bit higher than the regular stoptail correct?
@bobvanlieshout1423 жыл бұрын
Yes! There is enough break angle.
@CalJenningsАй бұрын
You’re not going to let us hear it in action?
@bobvanlieshout142Ай бұрын
As you could have read in the description: Music: All Guitars in track are recorded with this SG after the mod.
@miguelramos480173 жыл бұрын
awesome! would this work on my epiphone sg pro? probably a stupid question but i shouldn't take any chances for a $100 guitar part!
@bobvanlieshout1423 жыл бұрын
I think it will! Take your measurements and check before you order😃
@jameslanclos56810 ай бұрын
3:35 - "Mark the upper holes with an owl" ??? Did mean, mark the upper holes with an 'awl' ???!!! I don't have an owl but I do have an awl!
@2bthirsty2 жыл бұрын
I like the maestro but I dont like the look of the old bridge screws in the guitar body. Plus drilling new holes on my body! Not a fan.