How To Install A More Robust Bar & Chain On A Stihl Ms180, 170, 018, 017 Chainsaw

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How To Install A More Robust Bar & Chain On A Stihl Ms180, 170, 018, 017 Chainsaw
In this video I show you how to install a more rugged bar and chain on the Stihl MS180, 170, 018, 017 chainsaw. I am converting it to a .050 gauge from a .043 gauge bar & chain.
It is something you may want to consider when replacing the bar and chain on your chainsaw.
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@LaneVines 12 жыл бұрын

I did the same thing with my 170. I used a 16" bar and chain with .063 gauge. Works real well. I think the 170/180 is an underrated saw meaning it has more power than is advertised.

@bigtexas7580 4 жыл бұрын

*I put this same bar on my 1973 stihl 015 and it cuts much faster and better than the old 1/4 043 stock bar and chain. I had to change the spur gear and oil pump gear to 3/8 but it was well worth it. Thanks for all your awesome VIDS.*

@kevinbyrne4538 6 жыл бұрын

I followed your instructions in order to replace the chain on my Stihl saw. Everything proceeded smoothly -- no problems. Thanks much for the clear, detailed instructions.

@jasonclark4123 7 жыл бұрын

I just bought a ms170 today from my stihl dealer because they are on sale and a great price for them. I put a 14" bar on as well and 50 gauge chain. I have seen those 43 gauge chains get banged up quick and not last long on friends saws. Between your video Don and what I seen with my own eyes from friends it was a no brainer! I am looking forward to limbing with it for firewood and taking it on hunting/camping trips as well. Great videos Don, as always!

@rusackson 10 жыл бұрын

I did this conversion today. I am very happy with my Stihl 180 now. It definitely bites better now. Thanks

@sebastianbirch2187 3 жыл бұрын

Very popular saw among homeowners. Most reviews and maintenance videos is focusing on large, commercial machines. Thank you for taking time and clear walk-thru this one. Cheers!

@nheng6913 Жыл бұрын

Great video as usual. Just did this to my MS170 with an Oregon set with a second saw getting a 16" Stihl set. For your followers, the use of the word gauge is misleading by the saw people. It is not like wire gauge or sheet metal gauge. It is the actual thickness of the web in inches, like 0.040" 0.050" and 0.063" Easy to measure with calipers or micrometer. I was thinking of going 18" on the second saw but even with the 14", the saw prefers dry wood and straight cuts. But I still love it. The important thing for the small engine is to let the RPMs rev up and don't bog down the engine with your cutting pressure.

@Bill-rs1zm 6 жыл бұрын

Good video, I have a ms 170 that came with the .043 chain and 14 inch bar. After watching this I replaced with a .050 16 inch bar and chain. Was working on a ash with a 24 inch dia. trunk had no problem plowing through no bogging and throwing nice big chips. The saw is like a different saw well worth the $60.00 I spent at the Stihl dealer and everything was in stock. Highly recommend thanks donyboy 73

@TheHarleytt 5 жыл бұрын

Hi , thank you for the video . I have a ms180c that was due for a new bar , I upgraded to the heavier bar and chain and couldn't be happier , the heavier chain just does not wear out nearly as quickly . I also was having troubles with the easy start system so I bought a pre assembled side cover rope start for the ms170 and it was a 5 minute bolt on and requires no extra effort to pull since the engine is so small . I also replaced the chain adjustment with the side cover / bolts and adjuster from a ms170 . All the parts are on amazon for little money and its been a much more pleasant saw to use . Thank you for your video and reader comments .

@johnsonbar5022 Жыл бұрын

Very well done, very informative and clear. I have a Farm Boss 290, and since I am in my mid 70's, it's getting to be too much for me. I wanted the MS 170 or MS 180, but I wanted a more robust bar and chain. Your video here, IS just the thing I'm looking for. Thank you.

@hilltopgypsy 7 жыл бұрын

Man oh man, how I wish I had come across this video earlier as I JUST replaced the bar and chain on my MS170. I have worn out so many of the tiny chains it's ridiculous! If only I'd had this info earlier I'd have installed the more robust bar and chain. Thanks a ton for the info! Next Time!

@tazblink 4 жыл бұрын

You feel like the MS170 handles this upgrade well?

@brucehenschel7513 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent presentation. Thank you so much for taking the time to post this. You are saving a lot of new chainsaw owners a lot of time and frustration.

@murrayodesse8900 2 жыл бұрын

Just did this upgrade Dony and wow, what a difference it makes! A totally better saw and easier to get into some tight spaces. Thanks Dony!

@kevinbungles 4 жыл бұрын

Brilliant I have just bought a new MS181 and had no idea how to fit the chain tensioner. Your video sorted that and was perfect visuals, voice over and explanation. Thank you

@Lightning7474. 6 жыл бұрын

Great video! I appreciate you taking the time to go into detail & explain how & why. Thank you.

@Lincoln6echoLSE 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this informative video. I bought a brand new MS180 and had the dealership provide me with this upgrade and it actually saved me $30aud ($319aud total), plus I didn’t have to wait until the 16” bar and 0.043 Picco chain were in need of replacement to enjoy the benefit of the upgrade.

@jeffreylc 4 жыл бұрын

Just bought this upgrade. I love my 2 018c’s. I use them for 75% of my chain saw needs. I’m going to put this bar and chain on one of them and keep the other stock for trimming.

@surfer-te4lr 8 жыл бұрын

Great info…easy to understand, clear and precise. Thanks for your effort in explaining, right on!

@neving.summers7572 6 жыл бұрын

Your teaching abilities are outstanding. Very straight forward and easy to understand. Thank you.

@guydespatie6881 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent video. Straight to the point, cleat & concise. As an instructor, you rock!

@jonny5662 6 жыл бұрын

I just did this on my ms180 and it works great. I was worried the saw wouldn't have enough power to run it, but so far so good. Thanks, I enjoy your videos. You're a good teacher.

@kenlong5157 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your video. I did not need it for the bar. Just for the old bar and new chain. It had been awhile since I used the saw so I forgot the steps for the re-install. Your video helped out a lot. Again.. thanks.

@journeyman138 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video. Upgraded my MS 180C today.

@semco72057 6 жыл бұрын

I love the way that saw starts, and runs, and wish all of mine ran that good. I will remember the difference between the two bars, and chains you took off, and put on the saw.

@curlykipper 3 ай бұрын

one of the best technical instructors out there. my ms180 is getting harder to start but works really well when it gets going. luckily it only comes out a few times a year otherwise i'd have no shoulder left!!

@Magnum_Express 8 жыл бұрын

thank you for posting this. I was considering the same idea after my local stihl dealer no longer carries. 043 chains. luckily they were able to make one on site.

@53evergreen 12 жыл бұрын

Ya you make everything look so easy. Thanks for sharing your insights and knowledge Don.

@BMartinOutdoors 7 жыл бұрын

Nicely done! Ordered my conversion pieces while I watched. It was good timing for me. Down to two ratty chains that needed replacing anyway. Thanks!

@concert610 4 жыл бұрын

I just upgraded my Stihl MS170 to the larger gauge (0.050). I also noticed my old Echo 310 already had large gauge (0.050) chain. I love it. Thank you for your help.

@jimbolee72 2 жыл бұрын

Yes it will. Same sprocket

@DuanSBills 8 жыл бұрын

I just did this, and all I have to say is OUTSTANDING!!!!

@deannainclan2413 8 жыл бұрын

Nicely done. Thank you for the instructions

@gordonpeden7432 5 жыл бұрын

Well done Donny, a Comprehensive step by step Video. Thank you.

@davesmithshaman23 10 жыл бұрын

excellent info well presented clear and concise many thanks Dave

@johnbalasa711 4 жыл бұрын

Dony I like the whey you are walk us thru. No b.s. Pure knowledge! Thank you! You the only one so far I find honesty. God bless you.

@donyboy73 4 жыл бұрын

yes thanks, I don't bullshit my through lol

@bobbartos4616 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!! All your videos are great!!

@edwardfarmer4230 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Great video. Clear, concise explanation, demonstration. I have an MS 180 c. Is a Great small saw, that can do a lot.

@stop1eject 11 жыл бұрын

Great info. I made the change and without question the saw cuts much better.

@johnnelson9309 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent, thank you. Very informative and helpful.

@MrCarnutbill67 5 жыл бұрын

This is just what I was looking for! I was getting ready to throw my new 170 out the window. The stock “baby” bar and chain bind up all the time. I’m sure this also has to do with the the lack of power the saw has but I’m gonna try this upgrade.

@theone9564 3 жыл бұрын

Did the change but went with 16" bar. Working cool!

@johnstafford2402 6 жыл бұрын

Absolutely, picked one of these machines up today and will definitely make this upgrade to it.

@jimbeaver27 10 жыл бұрын

Dony, I recently did this upgrade and it worked very well. I just wanted to thank you. My dealer even had the parts in stock. A bit pricey but now I have a nice little saw.

@donyboy73 10 жыл бұрын

it's definitely a good upgrade Jim

@berkmanyt 8 жыл бұрын

EXCELLENT…..best demo on KZfaq per STIHL saws. Thank You.

@rlgoers 11 жыл бұрын

Excellent video! You have a great way of presenting and your video is very thorough! I appreciate that very much!

@bucketofguts 3 жыл бұрын

If you can sharpen a chain properly, You will get a sharper chain than comes out of the box with just a few minutes with a proper round file and a few light passes with a flat file on the rakers. I took my bar off to have a look and it suffered almost every issue you described just to a lesser degree. Thank you for a most informative and well crafted video as always!

@mattd28 11 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the part numbers, looks a great upgrade I have a MS180

@johnclarke6647 6 жыл бұрын

Don, I learned something that is applicable to this video. The bar and chain on an ms 241 are the same as on a 180C with one exception. The 241 uses a .050 gauge chain, instead of an .043 gauge chain. Both are 16 inch, 3/8P chains. Instead of dropping down to a 14 inch bar, you can use the 16 inch bar for the 241. I have not installed the bar and chain off my 241 on my 180 but I am sure it will work. I would have already done it but my 180 has that easy adjust crap on it, which I hate. I can adjust a side adjust a lot faster than that easy adjust crap. Another reason I traded in my ms 181cbe when I got my new 241, which I love. You might want to do a video on converting the easy start and adjust saws to normal start and side adjust. The only redeeming features these saws have is the primer bulb and I always forgot to press , anyway.

@tyroneclarke1666 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Don. You do very good easy to follow videos. I like how you take time to explain the process’ in detail. Regards from Australia 🇦🇺

@olavbjrnnes7464 8 жыл бұрын

Thanks for useful lession!! Netx chain will be the stronger one. Tumbs up also for your way to explain!

@jremi Жыл бұрын

What a great video! I ended up watching it several times. All the info is here and it is very well presented and clear, even for newbies like me. Very useful information. Thanks a lot!

@MichaelCPohl 8 жыл бұрын

Super-well explained. Top notch instruction!

@Pondicherryhotel 4 жыл бұрын

great info, will change my bar with a 16 inch 1.3mm instead of 1.1mm . thank you !

@dbayboyds409 2 жыл бұрын

Can’t wait to do this! Thank you!

@michaelneylan3978 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent instructions !!

@vintagemotoseattle 7 жыл бұрын

Great stuff. you are a great teacher on these chainsaw videos! Watched a few so far.

@3wheeler016 8 жыл бұрын

Love the tool-less chain tensioners. Have one on the poulan pro I have and makes quick adjustments in the Field so much easier. Doesn't seem to make a difference in performance or reliability either.

@trimbaker1893 2 жыл бұрын

Nice. Thank you. My small saw is going to have a new bar and chain now. Smiling, George.

@angiefrahm5430 6 жыл бұрын

This is an EXCELLENT video. First time changing chain. It was a lil intimidating!😊 thanks so much for making it MUCH simpler to understand.

@paulsouthgate8954 Жыл бұрын

Did this to my ms181 and it works well.Cheers for the advice.

@troymckay7788 3 жыл бұрын

Great tip - thank you - good instructions

@simontrangmar4537 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much for the info. My MS 180 is a year old so when the bar / chain is worn, I'll be going with the higher gauge. Regards - Simon / Australia

@riplock11 2 жыл бұрын

Probably the best instructional videos I have ever watched.. well done..👍👍

@BobWa43 6 жыл бұрын

As always and excellent video. Thank you.

@peterford9369 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Don, I have the 170 and I had written in that it wasn't starting after only just under 2 years of little use. Did pull the carb, screen was 2/3rds clogged with dirt from an old gas can,,, my fault. cleaned thoroughly and just reinstalled same gaskets and diaphragm s,,, runs good. Your videos are a definite incentive. Thanks so much,,, ✌

@donyboy73 7 жыл бұрын

you're welcome, if you don't use it much maybe you should use STIHL moto-mix

@peterford9369 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks, as a matter of fact I did buy some premix at Home Depot that also has something in it that cleans an ailing engine for the cs 300 I have. I've used additive s in my bikes but this is formulated for 2 strokes. What do you think of premixed gas and additives? Thanks for the advice too. Cept for price it is a nice idea.

@paulwharton1850 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent - Very useful information. Many thanks.......all the way from London !

@larrywilliams1209 7 жыл бұрын

Great presentation!

@tomaszzambrzycki2458 3 жыл бұрын

I have 1,3 mm chain right out of the box in my ms 180, bought in Europe this year, and I ofcouse bought full chisel chain which makes huge difference if you cut fresh, clean wood and you are able to sharpen it properly

@lemans72hotrod 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the helpful vid!

@edgarschaack3709 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for that upgrade that I will be doing to my ms180.

@Chevroldsmobuiac 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent video, well done, thanks!

@johnbeenfield4093 7 жыл бұрын

great video thanks! very thorough.

@live2ride73 8 жыл бұрын

i always learn something from your videos. thank you so much for posting them.

@donyboy73 8 жыл бұрын

thanks for watching

@jimbeaver27 11 жыл бұрын

My saw is 170C - C for Comfort and low vibration - great for old ladies. It's a lousy chain and I'll be converting mine to .050". Thanks for this, glad I didn't buy a replacement original chain.

@gblan 7 жыл бұрын

Excellent video, thanks.

@muslumtektas9817 3 жыл бұрын

It was very nice to tell you very useful information thank you.

@jordanrowan2537 Жыл бұрын

I’m going to do this with my 180c when this chain wears out it since the guide bar has a healthy sized valley on both sides I’ll be happy as long as the chains last longer

@ggrr8t 11 жыл бұрын

WOW! That was fast. Thank You.

@peterford9369 7 жыл бұрын

Very good video D boy. I have the 170 and only a year into ownership and maybe two uses, it won't start. Gonna check my fuel hose, doesn't seem to be getting fuel. Guess thats another video. Thanks so much.

@joemoyle3101 2 жыл бұрын

That’s exactly what I did on my ms180, changed to a 50 gauge chain and 12” bar

@greyhat4807 8 жыл бұрын

If I was to buy a 180 then eventually perform this upgrade when the original 0.43 is warn, what size filing kit would you recommend. Would a file that suits 0.43 also be compatible with 0.50, or would you need to get separate files? I would not doubt buy a filing kit when purchasing the saw so would like to know if I can get one that suits both gauges. Keep up the great work, very clear and informative videos.

@jimbone3296 2 жыл бұрын

Thorough explanation. To protect your fingers/hand from being cut should the chain jamb when rotating the chain by hand, only move the chain in the direction of travel not back and forth as was demonstrated in the video. Excessively worn sprockets or burrs on the drive links after a chain derailing are notorious for causing the chain to jamb.

@shaunburrelli9422 4 жыл бұрын

Very informative video donyboy, keep them coming, many thanks..

@tomhunt3267 2 жыл бұрын

This guy saved my day , I thought I’d never put mine back together. Automatic subscriber

@JADEDWILLIAM 10 жыл бұрын

Great idea. Thanks.

@blackanddeckernx01 11 жыл бұрын

Very good guide but does the same pally to the ms 171 c I watch your video all the time gives me conveyance with my chainsaws thank you.

@mountianwhite6319 10 жыл бұрын

Dony ,, thanx man . This was a great help . I have an ms211 & the same theory works for mine as well . Thanx again my friend !!

@peterr.7429 7 жыл бұрын

Excellent, thank you

@mattg1093 8 жыл бұрын

your videos are great! I have broke some 1.1mm chains

@donyboy73 12 жыл бұрын

thanks for the tip

@LLStacheLarry 7 жыл бұрын

Great video great detail.

@brianscottdubois7515 8 жыл бұрын

I like the Echo cap you are wearing while you are working on a Stihl chainsaw.

@Gettinbentfishing 7 жыл бұрын

Brían Scott Du Bois : echo that's the other 4 letter word for shit right?

@theknifeconnection9571 5 жыл бұрын

@@joelbelden9361 get pissy much

@dvmartel1 4 жыл бұрын

Some mention of increased risk of chain kickback seems appropriate. The bar and chain conversion creates a much more aggressive bite with a similar increase in chain kick back injury potential. No free lunch. Know what you are up to when you convert.

@johnjriggsarchery2457 10 ай бұрын

Non chainsaw people that can't cope with a more aggressive chain on a tiny chainsaw won't be the ones switching out bars and chains.

@MaryBarresi Жыл бұрын

You saved my husband's beloved Stihl!!!!! Thank you!!!!!!!!

@donyboy73 Жыл бұрын

You're welcome!!

@wayneberry8703 3 жыл бұрын

Once again Dony, a well illustrated and very informative video. I must do tis to my ms170, thanks mate. Cheers from Down Under

@donyboy73 3 жыл бұрын

Glad to help

@kingdaddy96706 11 жыл бұрын

Awesome video, donyboy! Very informative and educational. Beats the owners manual, that's for sure. Would you recommend going to an 18" guidebar for the MS 180-C?