I'm only a DIYer myself... so will bow to the greater knowledge of a professional.... I enjoyed the video as I'm researching how to do my own shower tray... however my takeaways are that I'll not be doing what you've done!!! ;-) 1) I'll be using a bed of sand / cement, 2) I'll be siliconing between the tray and the walls, 3) I'll not be using plasterboard for the walls... Tray / tiles, better than average shower etc.... the extra spent on proper waterproofing will add longevity... My home was new 20 years ago and in all 3 showers, tiles popped off the walls due to water getting to the plasterboard, being soaked up and destroying the wall... first there was the mould smell... then the tiles started falling off. I'm going to spend the extra on the tile backer board so that I don't have to spend money redoing it later.
@ajinfrance Жыл бұрын
Yes you can do it that way. I started fitting the trays in the 90s using the same method so it does work it's just not as good. Good luck 🙂🙂👍👍
@Rehoboth-Solutions4 ай бұрын
Great to see what you're doing. I've done the expanding foam idea and watched a 1.8m shower tray lift off the floor. Not sure if would do that again.
@ajinfrance4 ай бұрын
Wow, that's interesting. I always leave the gaps to collect the foam. If I did a full bed of it I guess it may affect things
@FrenchCountrysideLife2 жыл бұрын
Nice one AJ. I can really appreciate the work that's gone into setting up each shot and lighting etc. I bet it took you three times as long as it would have done without filming.
@ajinfrance2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Colin, Yes as you know it takes way longer with the camera rolling, and thats if you get it right first time.
@StuartLowPhotography2 жыл бұрын
There is one specific problem with this method when using longer and low profile trays. There is some flex in these kind of trays, so by placing the blocks in the corners, the foam can't expand uniformly and is forced to expand where the tray is weakest - in the centre. Whilst the 4 corners may sit level, over the course of the 24 hours, the foam keeps expanding and the centre of the tray can flex upwards under that pressure. This creates a high spot in the centre that can actually be enough to level out the manufactured slope. I know this to be true because it happened to me and I've seen it in 3 other jobs since. In all cases, the trays were holding small puddles of water and had to be ripped out and redone with cement/tile adhesive.
@ajinfrance2 жыл бұрын
Excellent bit of advice, I guess if there is enough space for the foam to expand that wouldn't happen. It's not something that has happened to me as I tend to put the foam down in lines and not fully cover the floor, I also find some but not a large amount does escape from the front and also down the hole in the boards around the waste. Thanks for the info AJ
@darrenmackenzie18922 жыл бұрын
I'm going to try it this way the next time I fit a tray. It looks easiest and less messy. Cheers
@ajinfrance2 жыл бұрын
Great let me know how you get on. AJ
@grahamambridge28562 жыл бұрын
Expanding foam will crush under weight unlike sand and cement and possibly will allow the tray to flex.
@ajinfrance2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment, that's not my experience with this method. I would estimate I have done 20+ like this. I have also fixed large 2.5m x 1.2m plasterboards to walls with the fixing foam, no sagging or movement was evident. I will be doing a review video of this showing how little flex is apparent if any. AJ
@adl200510 ай бұрын
I always use cement board for the walls instead of plasterboards. you'll regret it in the future when the water seeps through and the plasterboards wet's out.
@ajinfrance10 ай бұрын
Normally yes, but I used the Webber rubberised waterproofing as shown in my other video. Plus my tiling grouting and sealing is up to scratch. But I agree cement board is good 👍
@jlewis16887 ай бұрын
cement board is better than plasterboard !!!!!!!!@@ajinfrance
@29brendus Жыл бұрын
I must say I was troubled with this approach although I enjoyed the video. Perhaps the foam might work, but I daresay a sand/cement mix is a more proved way for longevity unless you use a non-resin tray. 😎
@ajinfrance Жыл бұрын
It would surprise you to know that in fact it's equal if not better, I have several of them fitted for over a decade and never had a call back. Some sand and cement ones on wood I have had issues with. But it takes a leap of faith to try it for the first time 👍👍👍
@29brendus Жыл бұрын
@@ajinfrance Indeed, it is very interesting, and I have been considering options as I am right in the middle of my Bathroom renewal. I would prefer not to use sand/cement, so I might research a bit more in the meantime. Many thanks, bnkinireland.
@ralphflipping77377 ай бұрын
no manufacturer would ever agree to this method so wrong!
@ajinfrance7 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment 👍
@albertoserpilli679810 ай бұрын
Thks Man , u really solve a problem to myself, while wondering with shower tray placement on my garage's wooden floor. Thks thks. May I send a private text in case of any extra little doubts? 💪💪💪💪
@glennwislon9743 Жыл бұрын
What sort of foam the sticky foam or just a normal foam ?
@ajinfrance Жыл бұрын
I used expanding foam in this one but you can use the non expanding version. Just leave gaps for the expansion type.
@MrB3ngy Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 did you really just expanding foam the tray down…. 🤣🤣 lash up…
@fineartlifestyling Жыл бұрын
Where is the waterproofing?!! This is insane I keep seeing this videos where the seams of the shower tray are unsealed between the wall and edges. In 5-10 years time that silicone seal will never hold up and you’ll have mould and rot.
@ajinfrance Жыл бұрын
Ahhh yes then look at my other video called waterproofing the shower area. I used the Webber system which is popular in France. Thanks for watching 👍
@pacman79592 жыл бұрын
Expanding foam. That is a new one. Seems alot easier the sand cement. How's the shower tray working out? Any problems with leveling
@ajinfrance2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. I have been fitting trays like this for a good few years. It is as level as it can be, if you don't put the blocks around the top then it will probably not be level after it expands. I used to use sand and cement but this is much easier and quicker.
@andrewstafford67839 ай бұрын
How NOT to install a shower tray - I hope no-one follows this or you will see leaks and potentially a cracked tray
@ajinfrance9 ай бұрын
Thanks for your opinion 👍
@zuluula Жыл бұрын
Hi what is the name of the foam ? Thank you
@ajinfrance Жыл бұрын
Good question - I use the Sika branded stuff usually and that works well
@zuluula Жыл бұрын
@@ajinfrance thank you
@jamesduffy9946 Жыл бұрын
Expanding foam lol ,,get ready to buy a new tray when it starts to crack.
@ajinfrance Жыл бұрын
I think this is the 30th tray I have done this way. I was sceptical at first also but I wouldn't go back to bedding in on sand and cement. Try it on your next one you will be surprised.
@danielhorler7766 Жыл бұрын
Always have used expanding foam. Never had one move let alone crack Always use a decent low profile stone resin tray Also atleast 1 tube of decent silicone along any surface the tray meets push the tray into the silicone so it oozes out for a seal that will never leak
@neilcharlescochrane Жыл бұрын
That shower tray is gonna end up leaking 100%
@ajinfrance Жыл бұрын
I'm afraid not. If you do it properly will last as long as the bathroom. Have done so many dating back 6-7 years and no issues yet.