How to install F80 M3 Brakes on an F30! CHEAP Big Brake Upgrade!

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Here's a link to the product we installed today:
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Stoptech Brake Pads (More Bite, but MUCH Louder than EBC):
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Stainless Brake Lines:
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EBC RedStuff Pads (Less Noise and Less Dust): www.kiesmotorsports.com/searc...
Tools: www.amazon.com/shop/kiesmotor...
Brake Fluid: www.kiesmotorsports.com/produ...
Online Service Manuals for almost ANY car: bit.ly/emanualonline
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Hey Everyone,
In today's video, we're going to show you how to how to install F80 / F82 M3 / M4 Brakes on your F30! In this video, we'll be demonstrating on Chris's F30 340, but it also works on the F30 335, f32 435 and just about any f30 or f32. Please note that on some cars, you may need to replace, remove or trim the heat shields.
As we demonstrate, it's a very straightforward and simple to do job with the right tools and will save you TONS of money!
See the links at the top for the products we installed, in addition to links for some helpful tools!
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Thanks for watching and please try everything at your own risk.
Bryan
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@EE_E38 3 жыл бұрын

I appreciate yall continuing to make content on the F30 even though there is a new generation out.

@bigshooTer39 3 жыл бұрын

I echo his comment. Fantastic job putting out this material. I can’t tell you enough how thankful I am for it. The F30s are at an age now where modding is about to explode. Warranties expiring and pricing is in the range of the younger generation

@M235i_bluelightning 2 жыл бұрын

The f models are just beginning their way. They still have a lot of lifetime and tuning parts are still developing.

@twinturbo8304 2 жыл бұрын

Is yall A word?

@iamworthy1302 2 жыл бұрын

@@twinturbo8304 yes also known as y'all (you all)

@purplepurplesaurasne 2 жыл бұрын

I fully agree, my F34 was bought out of warranty used a year and a half ago and the youtube community has been a vital suppliment to the Bentley manual.

@ricardocuevas7815 3 жыл бұрын

I love how Brian makes me feel like I can do a full engine swap in my shed with a pair of channel locks and a screwdriver! LOL Another great video.

@MegaGecas 3 жыл бұрын

This was extremely informative. I will grab a coffee and ask my grandma to change my brakes. She managed through the WWII, I'm sure she will manage after these instructions.

@AilikeLi 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for keep putting out F3x contents while the G2x lines are starting to flood the streets, appreciated Bryan!

@Specter_TF141 3 жыл бұрын

This anwsered my bruning questions regarding the brakes on my F30 340i thanks!

@officiallopez2334 3 жыл бұрын

Literally my next upgrade!

@aaronsamadi133 3 жыл бұрын

Great video as always and thank you for the hard work

@davidmasekoa7800 3 жыл бұрын

Am new to your channel All they way from south africa look I like how you camera angled everything and your explanation is on point..thanx

@jamdc2000 3 жыл бұрын

Between this channel and Blakes Garage, it is all we need for BMW knowledge

@BIGGELATO 3 жыл бұрын

14:46 unless work is done on a 7 series and upgrading to M brakes for some yacht racing, might call it Portside and Starboard. Installing a hood on the bow and new exhaust back at the stern lol

@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow 3 жыл бұрын

Sweet vid!

@FritzRamos 3 жыл бұрын

Great video, thanks for sharing

@justinbuice 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, don't forget to pump the brakes after! Ask how I know 🤣

@FritzRamos 3 жыл бұрын

Oh no! 😂

@worlboss2844 3 жыл бұрын

Yes , I know this part like the back of my hand, but sometimes I forget this step when am multi-tasking lol....hey Justin am subscribed to your channel 😁

@Salpeteroxid 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah me too! Lol

@cuttthroatperformance2752 3 жыл бұрын

How do you know?. (Since you told me to ask you)

@justinbuice 3 жыл бұрын

@@cuttthroatperformance2752 I did the brakes on my avenger and forgot to pump them. Put the car in reverse with my foot on the brake (automatic) and it started rolling. Ended up taking out some of my landscaping before the brakes were pumped enough to stop the car 😅

@BadLTD 3 жыл бұрын

Super dope video

@ildrichaseron 2 жыл бұрын

I never realized how easy this was! I also just bought myself some used F80 calipers recently and installed them on my F22! Also had them powder coated. Thank you so much for the inspiration & giving me the confidence to do this!

@baronmunchausen645 Жыл бұрын

What rotor size did you use?

@dragongamer8253 6 ай бұрын

i use the 380mm rotors on my m240i f22 and they fit without any Problem even on 18 inch

@dragongamer8253 6 ай бұрын

Even im running the Normal m sport calipper with a Spacer its cheaper and works as well

@ryanreich7635 3 жыл бұрын

He even had the P337 brakes which are LARGER than the junk floating calipers. I had the floating 312mm fronts and swapped to the 340 blue calipers. Love them.

@PSUMED04 2 жыл бұрын

Did you have to change rotors. I have new CQuence rotors but want you upgrade to M sport calipers

@bmw_m4_alpinewhite 3 жыл бұрын

Just a side note here Brian, make sure to code the DSC with the correct disc size so the ABS/DSC knows when to trigger ABS when necessary. When retrofitting larger brakes/brake discs, you want the ABS to kick in later compared to smaller brakes!

@Steven6489 3 жыл бұрын

I coded SPBR in my F30 but i dont see any option in DSC for me to change the disc rotor size. Can you enlighten me where I can change it?

@abumashfiquzzaman7806 3 жыл бұрын

Would you be able to share the coding process please? I’ve done some research already but still not 100% that I can do it correctly.

@washableaxe Жыл бұрын

This is true. The brake bias needs to be adjusted. VO Coding SPBR to HO WORT option will do the trick.

@washableaxe Жыл бұрын

@@Steven6489 I am 99% sure adding SPBR to HO WORT is sufficient. Anecdotal evidence from people across forums is that FDL coding rotor sizes has no impact on braking. THIS IS SPECULATION, but I've heard adding S2NHA to your VO will expose rotor sizes. I don't know how SPBR + 2NH play along together.

@jcarlo331 6 ай бұрын

Def note that

@CarsWithKeav 3 жыл бұрын

There was a separate Msport brake option that included these calipers and rotors for the F30 335 and on the 340 it was part of the track handling package. So glad mine came with it. If you can’t find used M3 you can search for the upgraded Msport ones. I’m pretty sure they are the same brakes. There was also a dealer accessory package adding a bigger kit in Orange, yellow or red with slotted and drilled rotors.

@Dutch79 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, M-Performance retrofit has yellow/orange or red calipers.

@jongouy2798 3 жыл бұрын

I'm glad you brought this up! I have a 2014 335i with the blue m sport brakes. I have F 80 lower control arms. I wonder if I can run the 380mm rotors?

@bloodymarvellous1531 Жыл бұрын

Brilliant!

@Claus2044 3 жыл бұрын

You have to loosen the handbrake screw thru the hole of the brakingpad. After mouting the new brakingpad you to ajust the handbrake again.

@hyde_official 3 жыл бұрын

I went with the most aggressive one, 6 pistons front, and 4-pistons rear. It's one of the best mod i ever done. And rotors are 380mm all round front and rear

@nyckperez6588 3 жыл бұрын

You were able to fit the rotors on your f30 with no modifications?

@tenaciousjeebs 2 жыл бұрын

Why is it one of the best mods you've done?

@michaelchiekelard929 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the professional step by step tutorial. I have a 2015 640i grand coupe and looking to do the M6 break caliper swap with new routers and pads like u have done. My question is do u know if the M6 calipers would fit the 640i and what size disks i would require for the front and rear please ? Thanks again

@Quez5k Жыл бұрын

I love tf out this video, great content my brother! I’m thinking of getting the 440 coupe, would this concept be exactly the same?

@burrlap86 3 жыл бұрын

Great video. Do you have a link to the brake calipers? Thank you

@germantechnik3184 3 жыл бұрын

If you look at the OEM cross drill pattern it makes the aftermarket pattern seem like the direction is wrong. I know they labelled but the OEM is going the wrong way then lol

@rhadoob 3 жыл бұрын

You don't get higher stopping power with larger brake discs, but you can use them more before brake fade from overheating. Braking is tyre limited.

@DearMajesty Жыл бұрын

actually you do get more stopping "power". You just can't use it because as you mentioned, it's limited by tires.

@johnshaw8013 2 жыл бұрын

Those calipers are exactly the ame as what Niissan 200SX S14a had on the front..... 20yrs ago!!!!! Exactly!!!!! I must have put 6 or seven sets of Ferrodo DS2000 pads in those so I know what I talk about!

@lorsamadey2435 2 жыл бұрын

Btw in a stock m-sport calipers you can fit 370mm brake disc. I did it on my 330d without changing anything, 370mm front and 348mm rear.

@BillyLips10 Жыл бұрын

Yes, but what size calipers did you have? 340? Or 370/380

@shiv135 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video, wanted to check the M140i comes with the blue calipers does it have the same ones that support 380 mm i.e the f80 ones?

@derekyam1805 3 жыл бұрын

Of all the DIY videos of replacing brakes, you are literally one of the few that actually cleans the hub. Its just a simple step that so many miss or skip. THANK YOU!

@shiftdnb 3 жыл бұрын

I don't know if this applies with a M Sport package vehicle but if you're doing this with the M Performance Brake upgrade on another trim like sportline, you need to code the vehicle by adding SPBR to HO-Wort and code the DSC module.

@deniss5034 2 жыл бұрын

Hi dude! Why do you think SPBR is right option? There are several different options for perfomance brakes that i met: SPBR, SBRE, SPBO. But i have not figure out what is the difference between them.

@salt1093 2 жыл бұрын

Hey. Have you done the base brake upgrade video yet?

@ex-engineer-th 3 жыл бұрын

Sold out for Rotor!!

@abumashfiquzzaman7806 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks this awesome video. Don’t you have to code the new m sport brakes to the car to account for the two piston calipers? Any chance you can do a video on the coding process? I’ve read that you can go without coding but the brakes will feel spongy if you don’t code. This is really the only thing stopping me from doing the retrofit. Have the parts purchased since last year but not good at coding.

@Prestige.Motors 2 жыл бұрын

Did you find out if we need coding?

@midxayyotsoubanh720 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome 👏 nice 👍

@philippealmeida3281 Жыл бұрын

WHAT A CHANGE AT BMW CONGRATULATIONS

@ayyyman_ 3 жыл бұрын

Every time I watch one of Kies' videos I can already feel my wallet getting lighter lol

@ellechero9490 2 жыл бұрын

Brian, why did you switch from the motul 600 to the motul 660? Just curious. I have the M3 calipers standard for my 435i. Is the 660 recommended for the blue caliper and 600 for the base brakes? Or just preference?

@espo8798 2 жыл бұрын

hey Brian you mentioned that the wheel hubs and carrier prevent the ability to use the larger 380mm rotor so im curious if you know whether or not its possible to swap the f80 wheel hub and carrier onto the f30 and will that then allow you to use the larger 380mm rotor? Thanks in advance!

@ildrichaseron 2 жыл бұрын

Does your handbrake still work fine? I noticed since I upgraded the rear rotors from 300mm to 345mm, the diameter of the top hats also got larger and the E-Brake shoes doesn't seem to reach the new hats anymore.

@tippy35075 3 жыл бұрын

I'd be awesome of you can do the same with a mercedes w212 and fitting AMG brakes

@microimation 3 жыл бұрын

Brian I want to update the headlights from my f30 to the new Lci

@MrZyLInD3r 3 жыл бұрын

correct me if im wrong but the M3 caliper is different to this... the caliper used in the video is the m sport brake kit for i think it was 328i and upwards i mean even the part number is different M3 ends with 63/64 and regular 3 series ends with 69/70

@10msivana Жыл бұрын

At 21:50 the rear discs are difficult to get off because of hand brake / E-brake as you call it in the US. You need to release it before taking the discs off otherwise they'll be a pain the ass

@DearMajesty Жыл бұрын

Question...when you pressure the brake system wouldn't that push the pistons inward, hence not requiring you to really pump the brakes?

@johnalessi 2 жыл бұрын

I noticed that you only put the brake lube on the back of the pads where they contact the piston. I’ve seen others that recommend also putting the lube on the metal sides of the brakes and on the pins. Is that not necessary?

@wouc89 3 жыл бұрын

Kies any info on options for upgrading the G20 brakes from the non MSport brakes?

@joeyreuser9319 Жыл бұрын

Hey Bryan. In the rear you torque the new bolts down at 37 fp and the rotate it an EXTRA 90 degrees. In the front I didn't see you rotate it an extra 90 degrees after you torque it at 80fp. Is the extra rotation in the front not necessary? Greets Joey

@fastanfun 2 жыл бұрын

I wonder if F82 m4 standard steel disk brake and caliper will fit on regular f series? Would it be direct bolt on?

@yakboss1482 2 ай бұрын

You should sell the stop tech set up as a kit on your website

@Mike-dr7db 3 жыл бұрын

Why does applying pressure on the brake pedal close off the valves? I expected pressure to be there when you removed the lines?

@Unsocial200 3 жыл бұрын

May I ask if you can use the air vacuum bleeder instead?

@sajidhasanzada6928 3 жыл бұрын

Oh btw can you do a video on gearbox ZF8 auto service as well?!!

@JusZard 3 жыл бұрын

Yes please

@s9811929 2 жыл бұрын

Kies. do you need to code the big brake into the car using Esys after bleeding?

@jcarlo331 6 ай бұрын

Big Salute to you sir 🫡. JC , reporting for duty . So 370 is the biggest I can go on my F32 , can I go bigger than 340 rear ? I will be upgrading the calipers too , M Cal , can’t go 370 disc rear ? For aesthetics , on my M4 ,the huge rear disk looked sick .

@pantiesgonewild358 2 жыл бұрын

My car is requiring brake fluid service for a month now, would this. a perfect time to upgrade oem pad to better pads and get stud conversion to do all at once

@MegaFregel 3 жыл бұрын

Always thought the F30 had the same breaks as the F36. Didn’t know it had smaller disks.🤔

@EvoroPictures 3 жыл бұрын

Okay so after i put this kit on my car a week later i started getting this noise like a card in a bike spoke. Apparently that’s how all slotted rotors sound? Let me know if that happens to you Brian or if you know a fix for it

@babushkasboi8240 3 жыл бұрын

Will those rotors work for the F80 M3 itself? Cheapest brake kit I can find is $8k

@HargunSV Жыл бұрын

what are those wheels and specs? they look hella clean

@thejungatron6792 3 жыл бұрын

Perfect. Those grey Brembo's needed to gooooo. Did you have to VO code this?

@Salpeteroxid 3 жыл бұрын

They are really good with the right pads. Try EBC yellowstuff, no fade.

@suspect3539 2 жыл бұрын

Has anyone done this with 18" wheels (400m)? Any clearance issues between the caliper and wheel? I put some slotted rotors from ECS and Hawk HPS pads on, which is OK for the street, but the factory rotor size is concerning for track use. Thanks for this guide.

@Nakinakpgm 3 жыл бұрын

Must code it and brake fluid flush with ista.

@EddieMack626 2 жыл бұрын

If you have base model brakes to you have to reprogram the car to read the bigger calipers or no

@islamfawzy6206 2 жыл бұрын

What are the dimensions of the front and rear discs in the modifications

@petermitov8432 Жыл бұрын

Probably a dumb question but im about to pull the trigger on this , the only thing that im not sure does the rim size matter? My f30 has 18” wheels ?

@ocengoceng2959 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Guys, any specs about the caliper bolts sizes (length, etc) and the ones for holding the rotors? Metric system please ;) Hard to get full kits in Switzerland, so have to buy piece by piece 😅 Cheers

@Kalashnikov444 2 жыл бұрын

Can you use the oem F80 M3 rotors on the F30 or would that not work?

@Kreeky621 2 жыл бұрын

Nice and complete video thanks. Where do i get the punch for the pins on caliper please? or do you have the size in mm of the punch? Thanks

@AntLive29 2 жыл бұрын

Harbor Freight

@TheArmando00 3 жыл бұрын

I have a 2011 BMW 750li Xdrive. Would this process be the same and tools?

@carla6872 3 жыл бұрын

Great Video! Will these parts and process also apply to a 440?

@louiswetzel1578 3 жыл бұрын

Probably yes

@brunosanchez8509 2 жыл бұрын

Hi I seen someone video who coded ( defined coding ) there brakes calipers after doing a retro fit ? Is it necessary or no

@1Bigduff 3 жыл бұрын

I didn't see you clean the rotors before install. is that a step you just didn't show or was it not necessary?

@emmanuelhurtadonoblecilla2655 Жыл бұрын

QUESTION ... I have the normal brake calipers on a 320i ... can I upgrade right away with some used calipers like this? or do I need an adapter to fit them?

@PureGamingpro 3 жыл бұрын

Some m sport you actually get the blue brake callipers but not the big brake disc

@niiick7772 2 жыл бұрын

Did everything and got chassis stabilization error after. I think a wheel hit the front caliper and knocked something out of alignment. Going to get the car back on Jack stands, retighten the caliper, and realign the rotor and see if that fixes it. I need that stud conversion 😑

@visalgunaratne2296 Жыл бұрын

Will the F80 M3 brakes fit into a F36 428i? The 428 has got standard brakes btw

@arleylopez8749 2 жыл бұрын

Hi l just got a 2018 bmw 340i and I would like to upgrade the brakes, the brembo brakes from the m240 fit the 340i?

@Mondaventure 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome vid! 😎 Q: Will F80 calipers work on F30 stock rotors?

@Myky658_ 2 жыл бұрын

New sub. Your channel desires more subs. Love the content. I Hope to own a f30 one day.

@Jim007baker 2 жыл бұрын

u could put some anti seize on the rotor so they wont stick the next time

@Phirephox 3 жыл бұрын

How did you not have any air in the line while bleeding? You put new lines on and all which were empty then you even pushed the pistons back and emptied it even more, I would think the beginning of the bleed would be all air?!

@marckevinnn 2 ай бұрын

340i with 2 piston rear and 4 piston front calipers. Just did this over the weekend and followed the ebc yellowstuff pad bedding process to mate with the also new zimmerman slotted/dimple rotors. is the air "woosh woosh" type clicking sound normal? hear it exceptionally driving next to cars or barriers with windows down. Also, when i brake firmly i get a hum/drone noise. and no my pads aint on backwards. done plenty brake jobs. its just my first time using these type of rotors.

@domkraggp9944 Ай бұрын

Read about this issue on the forums ,seems it's only with the slotted dimpled rotors.Was contemplating upgrading to the slotted dimpled rotors , but after reading about the clicking sound I'm put off

@joynerlucas1486 2 жыл бұрын

Where else can I find all of these rotors same size and everything?

@jackhere4594 Жыл бұрын

is the 2 piston front gray the same size as the blue m3 front calipers? askin because im using 17x9 wheels which say they wont fit the big brakes . i know they wont in the rear, but i think they will in front

@marksargent2908 Жыл бұрын

Can this upgrade also be done on a standard non-M-Sport 2013 F30 320D? Thanks.

@beastofackworth 3 жыл бұрын

My F30 330d with the msport plus pack came with 370mm discs as standard and the blue calipers with the 2 pot rears. Mine is a 🇬🇧 car.

@frzen 3 жыл бұрын

same for my 335d. this is "S2NH M SPORTBREMSE" option not M3 brakes he is installing

@Dutch79 3 жыл бұрын

Where can the SS disc retaining bolts be bought? So, OEM's are not SS?

@mrfisther 2 жыл бұрын

Do these breaks suffer from the hated break squeal?

@spdrasr3 3 жыл бұрын

Does this caliper work for a 340i non-M Sport?

@f32440i 2 жыл бұрын

Notice how he used new bolts to attach the caliper. BMW use one use aluminium bolts from the factory so this is where people can screw up

@Gaft90 9 ай бұрын

If I have a manual 340i xDrive, do I need to get specific f80 brake calipers or will any M3/M4 brake calipers from my same model generation work? Thank you!

@sajidhasanzada6928 3 жыл бұрын

Hey @KiesMotorsports just wondering if this same set up would fit a normal F30 with the standard brake set up?

@lfsmith7 3 жыл бұрын

No, it wouldn't. You need larger rotors in the front and rear. 370x30mm in the front and 345x24mm in the rear!

@marksargent2908 Жыл бұрын

@@lfsmith7 So, technically, yes, if you upsize the rotors?

@alcarpuk Жыл бұрын

But the callipers just bolt on as I gather all of the knuckle sizes/position are the same?

@hippystinx1 2 жыл бұрын

what physically on the inside is different between the 340 front brembos and the 370 m brembos. It literally still looks like they are identical.

@rengietorres9482 3 жыл бұрын

Is this set up better than the big brake kit from bmw?

@adamsenik2573 Жыл бұрын

Does it apply to all F30s? I have 320i Sport, with 300mm front rotors.

@Prestige.Motors 2 жыл бұрын

I did the upgrade, do we need to code anything on F30 Chassis 335xdrive? Reqd somewhere that we need to add SPBR or something like that

@therrandy2506 3 жыл бұрын

Kies, is their any coding of the computer involved for the brake upgrade?

@gjodexter 3 жыл бұрын

Technically yes, but you don’t have to. On my channel I went thru and did the M Sport big brake kit and the coding. I didn’t notice much of a difference before and after coding it. Good Luck.

@azaboy2 3 жыл бұрын

YES