How to install lithium batteries on a sailboat // Ryan’s tech corner #2

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This week, Ryan guides you through installing lithium batteries on a sailboat!
From what to think about before you install your batteries, to mapping the electric system, changing the settings of our charging devices and wiring the system, Ryan takes you through it all step by step.
Hope you find this useful!
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@59NorthSailing
@59NorthSailing 5 жыл бұрын
This is great! One question - I assume you did the battery-battery charger because you've got effectively a "low-output/dumb" alternator, and this was the easiest "plug & play" option...? As I understand it though, one big benefit of lithium when off the grid is the fast-charging ability you could get from a high-output/regulated alternator. For example on ISBJORN, which has just under 1,000 aH Lead-Acid AGMs, we can blast out 220 amps from the alternator, but only when they're dead. As soon as voltage comes up, amps go down, so the charging time extends the fuller they get. But with lithium, I can go full-blast right til their full, right?! So like on ISBJORN, that battery-battery charger would be less than ideal, especially since I've already got the smart regulator that has a pre-programmed lithium profile. Am I understanding this correctly?
@johanpren
@johanpren 5 жыл бұрын
If I understand you ( and the video) correctly, I think the lead-battery only really come into play when there is a sudden shut-off from the bms. Then it buffers the return current. Otherwise the current just passes it and it will not slow charging down.
@joarsvensson4968
@joarsvensson4968 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, you're absolutely right. The internal resistance in a LiFePo4 bank is not as high as Lead-Acid/AGM, so it can take much higher charge in general. If the DC-DC charger is powerful enough, it won't matter much if you charge using that or directly from the alternator. But most DC-DC chargers I found are rather expensive for a high Amp spec, so in your case, the alternator on ISBJORN would most likely work just fine instead (if it's setup for LiFePo4 that is).
@johanpren
@johanpren 5 жыл бұрын
@@joarsvensson4968 uppenbarligen får jag åka till Tjörn och få konsultation inför kommande konvertering :)
@RyanSophieSailing
@RyanSophieSailing 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Andy, Its a good question and interesting for your particular situation. If i remember correct you have some type of advanced regulator with the alternator? If this is the case you might be able to change a few small setting and it would work just fine. Would need to take a look. Ryan
@markhooper3485
@markhooper3485 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, BUT - it's more than capacity to absorb amps. Max voltage is a big issue, most dumb regulators may allow the voltage to exceed the cut out in the BMS wired into the top of each battery, and if that battery is the only thing connected to the alternator, when it cuts out you blow the diodes on the alternator and are now left sending the alternator for rebuild as well as shipping the batteries back to the factory to have the BMS replaced. Expensive, and slow, and you're dead in the water. Other big issue, and one rarely talked about, is float charging. Lead acids/spiral/gel/AGM will tolerate floating at a higher voltage. LiFePO4 do not. One of the big characteristics of the charge profile for lithium is that after reaching max charge, the battery must be allowed to run down to between 30-50% of charge before reinitiating charging/float. Most dumb alternators will happily keep floating at 13.7, rapidly killing the lithiums.
@mattf49006
@mattf49006 5 жыл бұрын
Ryan..after watching this I have no doubt your business venture will do well...on a side note..DUDE..you flew F-16s!..as a pilot myself i suppose if i wasnt flying Falcons sailing a sweet blue water boat with a smart hot French gal would work...lol..thanks for the tech videos..well done
@Sciolist
@Sciolist 5 жыл бұрын
I've seen lot of lithium battery instalation video on boat by other sailing channels. This was easily the most detailed and well made of the lot.
@jamestheotherone742
@jamestheotherone742 5 жыл бұрын
You should know/tell viewer that carbon fiber, unlike glass, is a good electrical conductor. So if you've got it around electrical components (like your battery box), treat it appropriately like steel or aluminum. Like your videos! ;)
@amycollins6007
@amycollins6007 4 жыл бұрын
This was such a brilliant, approachable video. Genuinely, thank you.
@davidsmith127
@davidsmith127 5 жыл бұрын
Best lithium conversion video I've seen! Thank you both for putting this together.
@steveangell4426
@steveangell4426 3 жыл бұрын
Great job Ryan. This was the best video I have seen on LiFe batteries and the installation of them. Thanks for sharing with us all.
@freakent
@freakent 5 жыл бұрын
Easy-peasy. Thanks, Ryan.
@silkyjones2626
@silkyjones2626 5 жыл бұрын
Good job, Ryan clearly explained.
@robertintress2155
@robertintress2155 5 жыл бұрын
Superb video. Thank you for your efforts!
@ed_richards47
@ed_richards47 5 жыл бұрын
A very well put together video, which I'm sure will be clear enough for most boat owners to follow.
@johnwootton836
@johnwootton836 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ryan! Very informative.
@fredcanavan3864
@fredcanavan3864 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! More great information in one video on the subject than the other 100 that I watched. Thank you so much.
@nikolaucznaum4312
@nikolaucznaum4312 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, superb narration with a clear explanation of the individual tasks.
@baconeggsandasphalt6532
@baconeggsandasphalt6532 Жыл бұрын
I was actually looking for a schematic and some detail for installing lithiums, new inverter, etc in an RV and came across your channel. Very impressed and very helpful. Thank you for this video and your wisdom!
@pblnlpalu
@pblnlpalu 5 жыл бұрын
Super explanation! Its not easy if you have no knowledge of these batteries! Thanks!!!
@seatravel8536
@seatravel8536 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video!
@Bypassingnormal
@Bypassingnormal 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video answered so many questions
@charliemcgrain
@charliemcgrain 2 жыл бұрын
Really excellent work. Many thanks.
@Burebizda
@Burebizda Жыл бұрын
This is my third time I watch this video. Perfect for my needs and level of understanding. Love you guys!
@RyanSophieSailing
@RyanSophieSailing Жыл бұрын
So glad it helps! 🥰🥰🥰
@peterfarley2784
@peterfarley2784 4 жыл бұрын
WOW!! Now speaking as an electro-phobic I have to say that looked easy enough for me to give a try and that is saying something. Well done for making something difficult look easy.
@mikeferguson2828
@mikeferguson2828 5 жыл бұрын
Looks good. It’s my idea to make the changeover myself at year end before I go full time cruising next year. I have done a lot of the background changes like you. Victron 120/3000/12 inverter charger and Victron 100/50 Mpt controller. Just the batteries to buy and deal with the alternators. I hope to do this soon and the batteries last. All in all a nice informative video guys
@SoundzAlive1
@SoundzAlive1 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your clear advice. A few things I noted; Very important the battery parallel connections be of equal length between batteries to ensure the same resistance from each battery. It was not an issue for you as all your batteries were next to each other and you cut your own cables but some may be tempted to use an existing cable of different length they already have. Another thing to point out is that when disconnecting batteries always disconnect negative first and when reconnecting batteries connect negative last. André
@kjelpeterson5236
@kjelpeterson5236 5 жыл бұрын
Great episode
@bill4nier
@bill4nier 5 жыл бұрын
Nice job, Ryan! Thanks for sharing. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍😊⛵⛵⛵⛵⛵⛵⛵⛵⛵
@urmajesty3866
@urmajesty3866 Жыл бұрын
Wow so much informations and its completly free. I love it thanks Ryan :)
@RyanSophieSailing
@RyanSophieSailing Жыл бұрын
we just ask that you like and subscribe :)
@HopeOfJoe
@HopeOfJoe 5 жыл бұрын
Ryan. Mistakes happen. Nicely done, Ryan. Nicely done !!
@Schaneification
@Schaneification 5 жыл бұрын
Ryan getting better in front of the camera ;=)
@debdoyle119
@debdoyle119 2 жыл бұрын
Great job
@rimasmeleshyus9486
@rimasmeleshyus9486 2 жыл бұрын
Important information about batteries 🔋 I really like it and very informative
@sailingnunky2189
@sailingnunky2189 3 жыл бұрын
Great video which will really help me going forward.
@RyanSophieSailing
@RyanSophieSailing 3 жыл бұрын
You know who to call anytime you need help! ;)
@paulhughes6764
@paulhughes6764 5 жыл бұрын
Cheers very illuminating 😉
@randyd4456
@randyd4456 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid!
@karlsamuels5300
@karlsamuels5300 4 жыл бұрын
Ryan, I love your instructional videos. You knowledge of the operating systems is awesome. In my books you are a genius. You are the type of person that is need as crew on a sail boat. Sophie you are a hoot........KING SIZE HAIR DRYER. Thanks you two.
@stevenuk
@stevenuk 5 жыл бұрын
great video, love the diagram.
@GregHutto1
@GregHutto1 Жыл бұрын
Wow...that was a serious project. I might be a little apprehensive as some fires start with the electrical system being overloaded or improperly installed. You made it seem very easy and straight forward. Nice job.
@earthstick
@earthstick Жыл бұрын
It’s a really useful video, especially the diagram. You could have saved downtime by making the new cables before disconnecting anything.
@jtgrandtour4115
@jtgrandtour4115 3 жыл бұрын
Vous êtes les meilleurs Ryan et Sophie, Joseph.
@henriquecostaveigadecarval8347
@henriquecostaveigadecarval8347 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@mini577
@mini577 5 жыл бұрын
Ryan has the best T-shirts......... this may not be the first time I have pointed this out. Another day, another great T-shirt.......
@RyanSophieSailing
@RyanSophieSailing 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ferfetched! I'm a t-shirt and jeans guy. I wish i was more creative and i could just make my own and sell them... but i'm not. I have many more but some colors show up better on camera than others so many you never get to see! - Ryan
@lifesailinc-lsi1120
@lifesailinc-lsi1120 3 жыл бұрын
Well done
@johnperry7534
@johnperry7534 5 жыл бұрын
Great work
@RyanSophieSailing
@RyanSophieSailing 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks John!
@MVSKOOKUM1
@MVSKOOKUM1 2 жыл бұрын
Wow nice video clip! It has motivated us to start considering changing over our AGM batteries to Lithium. We are worried our charging system may be too complex on our Nordhavn40 so we would have to hire someone. Learned a lot about the importance of the charger, alternator charging. Thanks a lot. Wanna come fly to Kitimat BC and help us? Lol. Jen
@jchristense5
@jchristense5 5 жыл бұрын
Good Good gooooode video 👍
@olumjumi
@olumjumi 2 ай бұрын
so many years later and yep we bought dakota lithium 200 ah for our install,. is coming up thanks for the video d
@ianb4801
@ianb4801 Жыл бұрын
A great video Ryan, well done. I had to chuckle about those Victron charge profiles though because I use altered ones depending on context - aiming at 90%SOC in port but always 100% heading into night during passage - you never really know what the weather brings tomorrow and I hate burning fuel to charge batteries. You touched on a couple of things that I did differently; not me correct making you incorrect, just different. My alternator charges only my LFP house bank, partly because charging LA beyond 80% is ridiculously slow. I switched to a Balmar alternator/external regulator to charge much that hose bank faster (fuel is precious during passage). You touched on alternators but I took that step. My LA starter battery is maintained solely, by DC-DC charger from my house bank, Sure, that means if my house bank suddenly vanishes then I die - but I'm over that. But it means that a single dead battery can easily just sit out without affecting the others. I'm also happier because this batteries can weld metal if you drop something on them. About connecting in my 4x100Ah LFPs, I went the Victron approach using a "Power In" to provide battery busbars, with a fuse for each battery, on top of the same sort of distribution bus bar arrangement. I didn't let my LFPs just sit "quietly" at first because their internal BMSs communicate with each other to give battery to battery levelling. And it works! I interrogated the BMS array that day, a week late, a month later again etc and the internal pack voltages are always nearly identical. The only thing I'm reticent about is that by windlass draws from my house bank as it did before but I'm on passage mode, at Panama on my way to Australia from Europe so that can wait until after I arrive and switch to fun sailing. An observation about my Victrom 100/30 MPPTs and I have one for each 305W solar panel. The fact is that they are just insane, never performing in concert under the same conditions - and it's anybody's guess as to which one misbehaves. Just crazy.
@mitchellbarnow1709
@mitchellbarnow1709 3 жыл бұрын
I see that we are both left-handed, it's no wonder that your videos are so smart and mechanical! Thank you so much for all of the awesome series that you produce on your channel. It is only recently that KZfaq recommended your channel to me and I am sure glad that they did.
@zenaasura1769
@zenaasura1769 Жыл бұрын
what id change is to put a bus bar right by the charge controllers and run a thicker cable to the switch. also a battery protect would be great to add to this setup. its a great setup. really cool.
@d3w4yn3
@d3w4yn3 5 жыл бұрын
Note to self: This Ryan guy is a battery genius... several years from now, when I'm actually restoring my boat, I need to bribe this guy whatever he charges (get it, charges? batteries... charges...) into just looking over my parts list with manufacturer and models listed to make sure I'm not accidentally making a bomb!
@RyanSophieSailing
@RyanSophieSailing 5 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@sailingcruiser25
@sailingcruiser25 4 жыл бұрын
I'm looking to also install LiFePO4 and I really enjoyed your video. My design is going to be almost identical to yours, but I'd change one or two things. First is I'm planning on keeping the start battery separate from the house bank side but I'm still going to run the DC to DC charger like you're doing. The difference I'm thinking of doing is adding a toggle switch to the signal wire back to the ignition so I can shut off the charger if needed or if I don't need that extra power going to the house bank. The Alternator will still be connected to the lead acid starting battery so it's still connected. The other thing is your battery crimping should be more of a compression of the lug onto the wire in stead of a one sided crushing force. Better crimping tools will be marked with the lugs so that you get a nice even press and compression of the wire. Thank you for the very informative videos!
@RyanSophieSailing
@RyanSophieSailing 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the note David! I agree about the Crimping... just need to find the correct tool for it. - Ryan
@hectorharvey2227
@hectorharvey2227 4 жыл бұрын
Really informative video...and I don't even have a boat! :)
@robertlee8042
@robertlee8042 4 жыл бұрын
Nice videos.
@philippedaudi1056
@philippedaudi1056 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for this. Very clear and very very helpful. In my case, I am planning to get rid of the gas stove and to replace it with an electric one! Cheers and many thanks.
@fredrikj1697
@fredrikj1697 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget to have all positive wires from each Lithium battery the same length, and each Lithium positive wires should have it's own fuse. On the negative side all Lithium negative wires should have the same length from batteries to negative busbar.
@TOMVUTHEPIMP
@TOMVUTHEPIMP 6 ай бұрын
Complete bull.....
@michaelhamilton5571
@michaelhamilton5571 2 жыл бұрын
I loved your" electronics for dummies" video
@matthiasbaur9691
@matthiasbaur9691 5 жыл бұрын
I am missing an important safety feature in this video. There should be a fuse installed as close as possible to the batteries, to prevent fire in case of a short circuit in one of the wires connecting the battery. It is enough to have a fuse only on the positive terminal. Do you have one installed and if so where? I find it dangerous to tell people to do a battery installation without mentioning the importance of the fuses.
@RyanSophieSailing
@RyanSophieSailing 5 жыл бұрын
Hello matthias. Yes this is a good point. We did not include it in the drawing but it is on the positive side just after the battery switch. This is where benteau placed it and we did not move it.
@neovo903
@neovo903 6 ай бұрын
I've been looking at a boat recently and planning on upgrading the electronics (radar, solar etc) and new batteries is one of them. Currently it has 3 Lead Acid House batteries, 1 starter battery and 2 fridge batteries. I was thinking of upgrading the House batteries to Lithium as there isn't a huge amount of space for lots of solar as I would need a frame and the transom is quite narrow.
@KirkThomson
@KirkThomson 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another excellent video. We have more and more clients interested in getting LFP batteries in their RVs. I have heard that the cold can ruin the batteries if they are not warmed up properly before using. In the video you mentioned that they are good for cold weather. I just don't want to recommend something that I don't have proper knowledge about. I would also think that a B2B would be needed as the alternator on the tow vehicle could do similar damage as on a boat. Thanks for all the great information!
@RyanSophieSailing
@RyanSophieSailing 5 жыл бұрын
Hi kirk, cold can be a hard thing for batteries of types. Its best to work with a manufacturer if your clients will be in the cold so that the battery can meet their needs. You are correct on the b2b charger... ours is working well. Ryan
@KirkThomson
@KirkThomson 5 жыл бұрын
@@RyanSophieSailing Thank you! I will contact your company. I assume that given its Iowa that they have a lot of experience with the cold!
@bophoto
@bophoto 5 жыл бұрын
Is it me or do Ryan look happy every time he say lithium ???
@RyanSophieSailing
@RyanSophieSailing 5 жыл бұрын
That wouldn’t surprise me (Ryan gets stars in his eyes every time he enters a marine or a hardware store 😆)
@djurodjurakaruci6773
@djurodjurakaruci6773 4 жыл бұрын
I LOOOVE batteries and tools man..
@grantpedder7719
@grantpedder7719 2 жыл бұрын
I fitted six 12v, 1kWh or 80Ahr *SUPER CAPS* in parallel. My installation is exactly the same as described here. Victron DC to DC Charger set to 13.4 volts. They have a 1 *MILLION CYCLE LIFESPAN* or factory recommended lifespan of 45 years, they're non toxic, can be safely discharge to 0 volt and stored at 0 volts indefinitely, they're non flamible, can never explode, they are 99.5% efficient, and safe to transport by air. They weigh ± 15 kg each. We run an 80L deep freeze @ -19⁰C and fridge @ 2.5 - 4.5⁰C 24/7/365 plus lights, windlass too(1200W or ± 100amps). They also run nav station, auto pilot and bilge pumps. They start our 2000cc(50HP) Perkins diesel on a dime with change to spare. We've never seen them below 12.8 volt or 80% SOC and are normally fully charged by lunchtime and on successive cloudy days they'll charge to ± 95% SOC. We're charging with 2 x 330W pollychrystal solar panels. We'll change these to monochrystal though as they handle shadows better. We live aboard permanently and have had them on our 45ft cruiser for 3 years and they're functioning at 100%. They're also available in 48 volts. These are the best things since sliced bread. Two could do the job but if enough is good then more must be better...no? 😁👍🏻
@jrisinlove
@jrisinlove Жыл бұрын
Make a video
@robertlee8042
@robertlee8042 4 жыл бұрын
When I was a boy I made an electric hot dog maker. It was just a bunch of railroad spikes in pairs nailed through a board. About six pairs. I ran house current to the first pair and then from nail Tek nail to the back now. As you’re saying in your video I ran the wires the hot in the cold to the first pair. I found that if I Try to make six hotdogs, one hotdog across each pair of nails, the first pair of nails cook the hotdogs very quickly the second pair let’s quickly the third pair even less quickly and the last pair didn’t cook at all. I bet you could’ve put both hands across the nails on the last pair without getting much of a shock. This was about 1955. Why boat manufactures didn’t know this is beyond me. I’m sure they did. The issue was that the boat buyers didn’t know!
@kevtamus
@kevtamus 5 жыл бұрын
Love the video - one question: what battery to battery charger did you use (sorry if you explained this and I just missed it). Keep up the good work. Thanks.
@RyanSophieSailing
@RyanSophieSailing 5 жыл бұрын
Hello... the B2B charger was a sterling electric. Works well, so far though i have been a little disappointed with their customer services support. Ryan
@riverafamily3432
@riverafamily3432 2 жыл бұрын
Ryan I just purchased my first sail boat. im in the process of updating the battery and also going electric motor 48v. my question for you is if i install a 48v battery bank for the motor and house how would i convert 48volt to 12volt? thanks for you great videos it help alot
@randyd4456
@randyd4456 4 жыл бұрын
Would also love to see a how to video on that carbon fiber battery box. Never used CF before and i know there are safety concerns, but really just want to see how it was done.
@commutepays
@commutepays Жыл бұрын
Ryan, exceptional video details. Any chance you can do a more recent transparent update on Dakota lithium sailboat batteries considering many changes and other conflicting reviews of manufacturing quality and technology changes from competitors. Specifically, do you still stand by your brand and does it still live up to your standards or has the company grown and become compromised in the process. All the best, great content. Thank you
@geoffhayday6003
@geoffhayday6003 3 жыл бұрын
A great video, thank you. One related question was I noticed you do not use vane steering gear but rely on auto pilot, which can be power hungry. With fridges and electronics as well, you must use a fair bit of power on long trips. How long do you have to run the engine for each day to keep everything topped up? I guess the solar panels alone are not enough? Thanks
@cheekyencounter
@cheekyencounter 2 жыл бұрын
That was fantastic Ryan. I'm about to put in 800ah of house Lipo and I am quite nervous about it as I have the same complications of a bow thruster battery and engine battery...oh and a battery for two electric winches...also a bit concerned about the alternator and generator alternator...Im about to get a qualified electrician to install it all, but still worried (I think rightly so) as to whether he really can get his head around everything...wish me lick!...Thank you so much.
@It-b-Blair
@It-b-Blair 3 жыл бұрын
Initially I was thinking a unified power bank would be a great weight reduction, yet on hearing your points, I also realized having redundancy for important navigation/maneuvering electric draw with multiple batteries may be more important 🤪🤷‍♂️
@christopherlynch3314
@christopherlynch3314 3 жыл бұрын
on our boat "currently" I love electrical humor!
@jeffdege4786
@jeffdege4786 Жыл бұрын
Figure how much it's going to take then add 50% to it? Best rule of time estimating I've seen is double and increment units. So if your best guess is three hours, figure six days. If two days, figure four weeks. (And if you don't have water when the power is out, you need a manual pump. Redundancy in all critical systems.)
@aljotock
@aljotock 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video!! One question please..... why 4 MPPT's 👍🏼
@SailingCAVU
@SailingCAVU 2 жыл бұрын
Ryan, being in the industry have you seen insurance companies resistance to changing to LI and how do we make sure it isn’t a problem?
@ontyposrl
@ontyposrl 4 жыл бұрын
It's almost the same design I made, the only issue I haven't resolved yet (and you neither I see) is how to maintain under charge the starter battery when the engine is off and you are at the hook for several days under solar and wind power or moored at the marina connected with the shore plug.
@jima4656
@jima4656 Жыл бұрын
Lots of great information here. Thanks for that. I do have a question after looking at the Dakota website. Are your battery cases standard BCI sizes like Group 31, D8, U1, etc? I didn't see mechanical drawings or size specs listed.
@gorgonsailor
@gorgonsailor 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Ryan ー this is very informative. I'm just looking into this conversion. My question is how does on-off switch fit into the wiring diagram? Or A-B-Both switch? Thanks!
@ruairidhmunro
@ruairidhmunro 5 жыл бұрын
Good clear explanation Ryan. Only negative is that that wiring has my OSD going stratospheric … I'd need to have it waaaaay neater and more organised !! I'd probably end up ripping half of it out and then not know what went where and needing to get the boat rewired professionally. My OSD is in overdrive just looking at that battery compartment.
@RyanSophieSailing
@RyanSophieSailing 5 жыл бұрын
I agree. But to get all those wires under control i would have had to remove everything and that was not going to happen (Ryan)
@sailingandsomejokes
@sailingandsomejokes 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid! One thing came to mind tough. I was thinking that lithium battery bank should only be charged via battery to battery charger. In this setup inverter / charger loads only lithiums. That ok because engine starter battery is assumed to be full, because it is utilized on moments, and it is loaded then first. And finally to the question. Before you did this lithium upgrade, alternator charged Both battery banks. How did you disconnedted the original setup of Both banks? I am planning also Similan upgrade for Jeanneau boat. Just thinking last considerations..
@vitoproplumber
@vitoproplumber Жыл бұрын
Great video. Which Battery to battery DC charger do you recommend. Thanks!
@earthstick
@earthstick Жыл бұрын
This is a very useful video, just one question. How do you trickle charge the engine starter battery? The DC-DC converter will only charge from starter to house, not the other way.
@willarddevoe5893
@willarddevoe5893 2 жыл бұрын
A peek into the past is also a peek into the future. Germany lost 1/2 of it's PKW4 tanks to batteries in parallel. It was a good thing. In the morning, the tanks could not start and dead batteries could not turn the turrets. Yachts and semi trucks are often supplied with isolation switches. They allow batteries to momentarily tackle huge discharges such as starting, then be isolated for separate charging and storage. If i am going to buy two big 12 volt batteries, I'd instead buy two 6 volt batteries to use in series. They don't squabble in series. One gentleman on youtube yanked his electrical project, and posted a new article when he learned the right way he should be encouraging. When things go wrong, disconnect every single battery, and charge them individually. Don't leave anything in parallel. Fair seas, Maties.
@erichyney6287
@erichyney6287 5 жыл бұрын
R & S. Thanks, I like informative videos like this. P.s. I noticed that you moved your plant in different parts of the video. I'm bad at remembering his name. Sorry.
@RyanSophieSailing
@RyanSophieSailing 5 жыл бұрын
Good eye... the name is Brian.
@JavierSanchez-fq2df
@JavierSanchez-fq2df 6 ай бұрын
Hey what best potects the 100ah 12volt lithium battery from rain and salt water if a bettery box is too big? This battery is IP65 rating and will be right by the transom of my montgomery 10 and will be directly connected to a 55lbs thrust aquos hewsing transom black trolling motor. Great video. Looking forward to your feedback.
@pettermathersimonsen6029
@pettermathersimonsen6029 5 жыл бұрын
Nice overview you provide Ryan. What I do not understand is the function of the B2B charger. The Li batteries are able to be charged at a much higher rate than SLA's. When all the charging is done via the SLA, will that battery not act as a hurdle for the Li and hence slow down the charging to a lower level than would be possible for the Li. I assume that quicker charging of the Li is better than slower, to minimize engine hours or maximize available output from the solar panels. Might there also be a temperature issue for the SLA battery? Would you care to explain when you have time and opportunity?
@jonathansbn2155
@jonathansbn2155 Жыл бұрын
Hello ! Veery good explication. Please wish power DC/DC do you choose from victron for how many AH of batterie ? Thanks
@dan5641
@dan5641 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Ryan and thanks for the video. I'm looking into converting to Lithium. In your setup, you're not charging the starter battery with solar, only with the alternator. What is the reason for that?
@robertbarnett3409
@robertbarnett3409 5 жыл бұрын
Great video on switching to lytham batteries I am thinking of switching my solar batteries to my house. I am studying and trying to learn as much as I can there are so many choices at very different prices. A question that I would have will the three batteries to run all of your load with all of the boat systems,camera gear, laptops, and an electric heater ate the lytham batteries that much better that much better? Thanks for the video I enjoy your channel so much I can count on you to be technical stuff and for Sophie to lighten my day with her humor. See you the next time and be safe and have a fun day.
@RyanSophieSailing
@RyanSophieSailing 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Robert. Yes these batteries would be able to power all of the items you list plus more. Thanks for the kind words. Ryan
@edwardfinn4141
@edwardfinn4141 Жыл бұрын
This two part series was a great explanation of Li Fe PO4 vs lead acid. When you gave your cost comparison, did you include the cost of new cabling and new crimping tools?
@RyanSophieSailing
@RyanSophieSailing Жыл бұрын
No, not really. Its a very valid point though because that can add up quick.
@edwardfinn4141
@edwardfinn4141 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for getting back to me Ryan.. My IP 35 is still in the Carribean at SXM For now, I’m gonna stick with my original 60 amp alternator and A 2000 watt Honda generator
@rwdyer2263
@rwdyer2263 3 жыл бұрын
I’m sure someone else mentioned this already aside from being a great video the thought occurred to me that the whole or the space underneath of the old battery box might be there to catch sulfuric acid if for some reason your battery would become damaged and it were to leak out. I don’t know if that’s why it’s there but that was just a thought I had
@RyanSophieSailing
@RyanSophieSailing 3 жыл бұрын
I think its just a construction thing. Not really sure either... was not expecting to see it when i pulled the old ones out. Ryan
@markosterman4974
@markosterman4974 4 ай бұрын
Wow! Great video! Do you really run your hot water heater off 4x170ah lithium batteries? That is an amazing game changer!
@syzingara1347
@syzingara1347 Жыл бұрын
hi Ryan, i have pretty much the same setup as you described in the drawing. i have my starter and housebank batteries connected to the alternator through a diode bridge. in order not to fry my alternator after installing a lifepo4 battery, i was wondering if it is a good option to connect a DC-DC charger between the Alternator and the LIFEPO4 battery instead of placing it between the starter and the house battery bank?
@kerristokes4915
@kerristokes4915 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Thanks for your videos they are great. We have 2007 Beneteau Oceanis , the same as your’s and about to add lithium batteries and Victron multi compact 12/2000. Where did you put your multi as no room in rear berth battery area?
@RyanSophieSailing
@RyanSophieSailing 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Kerri, i sent you an email about this. hope you received. Ryan
@d3w4yn3
@d3w4yn3 5 жыл бұрын
That hydraulic crimper sounds like you are torturing a rat! I'm glad to know that no rodents were harmed in the making of this video!
@RyanSophieSailing
@RyanSophieSailing 5 жыл бұрын
Hahaha 😂 I laughed!
@darylclark8906
@darylclark8906 Жыл бұрын
Ryan - not sure you are aware; I am seeing alot of negative comments online (Amazon, et all) about lack of customer support at Dakota Lithium. Also saw the start of a tear down on the battery, where the short circuit test failed...
@nunop6606
@nunop6606 3 жыл бұрын
Great both videos!! One question: Can you have 2 or more batteries groups separated but in parallel? example: 4 batteries in one box and more 4 batteries in other box (2 meters distance) connected with the first box.
@SoundzAlive1
@SoundzAlive1 2 жыл бұрын
Yes you can but check that your Lithiums can accept being connected in series or parallel as some won't. The only other thing is when connecting a bank ensure that all the cables are the same length to keep the resistance the same to each battery and to each bank. The banks can be apart some distance. Best to use one of these to protect your batteries. sterling-power.com/products/alternator-open-circuit-protection-device?_pos=1&_sid=272ee4f3e&_ss=r André
@nunop6606
@nunop6606 2 жыл бұрын
@@SoundzAlive1 Great Ryan! See you on the Ocean!
@stefanboone3739
@stefanboone3739 Жыл бұрын
Hi Ryan, very interesting video. I do have a question in reference to the 12V/12V charger to charge the lithium battery service pack from the engine AGM battery. I have Mastervolt on my boat and I know the Mastervolt Magic that is made to achieve this charging job. Problem is that Mastervolt Magic only exist in max 20 amps witch is a bit low compare to +/- 80 amps that the engine alternator can give. Can you tell me what alternative to Mastervolt I have for those 12V/12V chargers? Thanks for your help, Regards STEFAN
@eivindlindefjell5602
@eivindlindefjell5602 Жыл бұрын
Damn i love my life whit hybrid inverter 😉
@anthonyreid4300
@anthonyreid4300 Жыл бұрын
If the charger is set to charge on a Lithium profile. Will this be bad for the SLA. Or do we now need 2 battery chargers when connected too shore power?
@alfredochiappini1056
@alfredochiappini1056 Жыл бұрын
I am a marine electrician and i must say youre pretty impressive. Are you all self taught?
@jacorin
@jacorin 5 жыл бұрын
great work Ryan,nicely done...how's that hair dryer working out Soph???
@RyanSophieSailing
@RyanSophieSailing 5 жыл бұрын
It’s blowing full steam 😂
@jacorin
@jacorin 5 жыл бұрын
@@RyanSophieSailing HAHAHA nice, need more solar then Ryan
@RyanSophieSailing
@RyanSophieSailing 5 жыл бұрын
We’ve got 600W coming on the arch we’re installing, on top of the 400W we already have on the deck. At this rate, I can soon start a hairdresser salon on the boat 😂
@jacorin
@jacorin 5 жыл бұрын
@@RyanSophieSailing well you'll need all that just for the hair dryer and hot water heater for the shower lolol
@lydiaajohnson
@lydiaajohnson 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the diagram. I must be learning because I nearly understood it. BTW, do you know of a goof marine electrician in the Des Moines/Omaha region?
@RyanSophieSailing
@RyanSophieSailing 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Lydia. No, no idea who might be suited for that in the area, but my guesses are the choices are limited. (Ryan)
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