How to Install Porch Columns

How to Install Porch Columns | This Old House

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Norm Abram and Tom Silva install reinforced fiberglass columns to support the new farmer’s porch at the Lexington house.
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@halfdohm 3 жыл бұрын

Pleasure seeing Tommy and Norm working together. Mutual respect.

@michaelbaumgardner2530 3 жыл бұрын

Would have to agree...👍👍

@jackterra4352 3 жыл бұрын

Indeed...good to see Norm.

@PJJ196 3 жыл бұрын

Love how these guys are still at it.. makes me very happy

@toddh281 3 жыл бұрын

Love watching these two craftsman work together norm the man of trim and tom the master carpenter...so much knowledge

@MasterHustler 3 жыл бұрын

I do also and BOTH are master carpenters. Living legends.

@loumonte658 3 жыл бұрын

Two masters at their craft.

@Dominick_Calvitto. 3 жыл бұрын

2 Excellent Builders Wouldn't mind working Along Side Norm & Tom.. The Learning Experience would be Amazing.

@Game-zn8gv 3 жыл бұрын

Master craftmanship at work.

@royalvarez6436 3 жыл бұрын

Just another Master Class in building techniques by the legends of the trait.

@cantcurecancer 3 жыл бұрын

I like the close-ups. Excellent camera work!

@byronwatkins2565 3 жыл бұрын

Depending on the taper, that cardboard wrapping trick might not end up perpendicular to the axis at all... it is designed for a cylinder (pipe), but works ok for very mild tapers.

@lucky1206 3 жыл бұрын

Those guys are legends

@vazz22 3 жыл бұрын

I Love this Stuff!!

@cup_and_cone 3 жыл бұрын

Nice rot proof post, but terrible finishing hardware. Would have been really high quality if they went the extra mile to provide matching fiberglass caps instead of plastic.

@Dirtyharry70585 3 жыл бұрын

I agree, crappie plastic and non stainless hardware for a mega buck post? I’m guessing the perfect fit will stop the post from shifting 🤷🏻

@petebusch9069 3 жыл бұрын

I agree, that's not a long term install and will come apart. That and why did they install the columns directly on the decking, seems like a bad idea.

@lucky1206 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah it look kinda cheap with the end caps

@zaneblane8160 3 жыл бұрын

@@petebusch9069 how should it have been done?

@petebusch9069 3 жыл бұрын

@@zaneblane8160 Install the column directly on the porch structure below, add the decking, and then add the trim ring to cover up the gaps at the decking/column. That decking will have to be replaced at some point but the column should last indefinitely. If those columns were decorative then it wouldn't really matter.

@BottleJackBuddy 3 жыл бұрын

Great project.

@sajidrafique375 3 жыл бұрын

Lovely 5 min tutorial i will not forget

@borys444 3 жыл бұрын

Guarantee u by tomorrow u won’t remember any of this...

@ja8898 3 жыл бұрын

@@borys444 Won't remember what? Who are you? Where am I?

@borys444 3 жыл бұрын

@@Kevin-mp5of defiantly rot going on inside this trunk...

@Engineer9736 3 жыл бұрын

@@ja8898 😂

@RtowerIII 3 жыл бұрын

Norm!! ❤

@scallywag1716 3 жыл бұрын

Not a fan of columns….plus the top finish could be better. You’ve now got the flange outside the beam and it looks a little weird. I’d add some pieces to the beam on those part for a more flush look.

@budwoodman1716 3 жыл бұрын

Those 'L brackets' used to secure the base of the column to the decking needs to be made of metal, not plastic. If you noticed, when Norm screwed the second bolt in, the plastic L bracket cracked. That is the manufacturers fault, not Norms or Tommy's.

@cup_and_cone 3 жыл бұрын

Those brackets have zero structural strength. Their sole purpose is to just keep the post from being bumped and moving before the load gets set on it.

@SlashspitGaming 3 жыл бұрын

@@cup_and_cone What happens when movers are carrying a piano in and bump the column? you think those broken plastic brackets and quarter inch screws are gonna prevent that column from sliding off the deck? lol

@daveklein2826 3 жыл бұрын

They were metal and they didn't crack inspector cleusea... They bent a little and what you saw was a stress line... I am sure if they cracked Tommy and Norm would have replaced them seeing as they forgot far more than you know

@cup_and_cone 3 жыл бұрын

@@SlashspitGaming It's a hollow fiberglass tube. Look at the surface area! There's maybe a couple inches of total surface area bearing potentially thousands of pounds of weight. That's some serious point loading...it will bite into the surrounding material.

@zaneblane8160 3 жыл бұрын

@@cup_and_cone ..what's the right way?

@ScrewballMcAdams 2 жыл бұрын

Norm + Tom: best thing that ever happened to TOH.

@aaroncope1761 3 жыл бұрын

Amazing work as always! But I am curious to know what was Tommy's reasoning in using masonry screws to secure the post brackets to a wooden deck? I am certain that Tommy has a perfectly good reason.

@MikesTropicalTech 3 жыл бұрын

Tommy went a little hard on that poor little L bracket!

@vitoscatigno4207 3 жыл бұрын

That second L-bracket cheap piece of nonsense cracked, why didn't they make them out of galvanized steel and use four?

@petebusch9069 3 жыл бұрын

Agreed, it will fall apart in about 10 years.

@ckcuev 3 жыл бұрын

@@Kevin-mp5of did it really?

@Engineer9736 3 жыл бұрын

@@ckcuev yes

@johnm5714 3 жыл бұрын

That’s the danger in using impact drivers-you cannot feel where your at and that’s the result of not having precision control.plain cordless driver is much better for feeling the torque and not crushing things

@ckcuev 3 жыл бұрын

What episode was this? I can't find any info on the porch collapsing after they filmed

@grguy793 3 жыл бұрын

Was there a pier under the deck to take the weight or did the post weight just sit on top of the deck?

@Richdee2323 3 жыл бұрын

Im sure there is a concrete pad underneath those parts they put those posts under. If you notice when he's screwing down the post, he uses concrete screws (tapcons) and they are being torqued whiles driven.

@Nana-un3jh 2 жыл бұрын

How do you install the same type of columns over concrete or brick?

@Pnanasnoic 3 жыл бұрын

Norm!

@iknowthatsright9865 Жыл бұрын

How do you test to make sure a column is straight. My builder has one of my columns Les ing and claims that bc it’s a tapered column putting a leveler on it will just make it appear level even if it’s not and its no other way to verify it’s not leaning? Can you tell me how to check to see if it’s straight and level please?

@mzimzi1360 3 жыл бұрын

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@rutgerhoutdijk3547 3 жыл бұрын

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@mzimzi1360 3 жыл бұрын

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@daveb11230 3 жыл бұрын

How do you keep the bottom plate from spinning?

@kevinamack6 3 жыл бұрын

Thought the same thing. I guess as long as nobody kicks it you don’t have to worry about it.

@LetsGoBrandon-FJB 3 жыл бұрын

this old porch monk key

@petebusch9069 3 жыл бұрын

Didn't know you could install a structural column directly on top of decking verses the assumed beam/columns below. This seems like a bad idea, tell me I'm wrong.

@zaneblane8160 3 жыл бұрын

Can you elaborate..for us lay folks? In about to have this done.

@Engineer9736 3 жыл бұрын

@@zaneblane8160 The decking is to be walked on, it’s not meant for keeping the house up. Sure it can (until the deck rots out) but i guess officially you have to connect structure to structure, not structure to finishing. If you ever need to replace the deck then the roof has to be jacked up again and temporary supported until a new deck is in. You don’t want to be messing with jacking up parts of your house forever. Also, now they have cut off the columns too short to ever make it to the structure, so the homeowner is doomed.

@petebusch9069 3 жыл бұрын

@@zaneblane8160 The column is structural, should last indefinitely and should continue all the way to the ground/footings and most likely does but not visible in the video. The decking will have to be replaced at some point and is sandwiched in the structure of the columns requiring taking the whole thing down again. That and those connections are about as minimal as a person could get. I'm not sure but is that type of decking rated to carry the load sitting on it or will it crush, some composites are crap, if the decking is wood it should be OK but still, why sandwich it?

@Richdee2323 3 жыл бұрын

@Chrispy9393 3 жыл бұрын

@@Richdee2323 This is the answer

@Guardducks 3 жыл бұрын

Most of us would measure in from the end of the column all the way around because we were to dumb to make a jig out of something.

@jackterra4352 3 жыл бұрын

We live and learn...

@nscaledelights 3 жыл бұрын

I like my columns in Excel lol.

@jenniferw8963 7 ай бұрын

Are those columns the $129 Turncraft FRP?

@edwin4006 7 ай бұрын

Looks like Turncraft. They use the same bracket system used in the video.

@thesmokinggent499 3 жыл бұрын

No stainless hardware ? No way

@Engineer9736 3 жыл бұрын

Stains belong on the bed sheets not on the house pillars. Although..

@fireblaster9961 3 жыл бұрын

So the only fixings holding it are the a couple of metal brackets screwed into the deck boards, which will rot eventually

@Engineer9736 3 жыл бұрын

They where plastic, not metal

@nickpappas5779 3 ай бұрын

It's terrible it's been raining for 3 days

@c0mputer 3 жыл бұрын

Seems like I could kick and shatter that plastic footing.

@MOONRAK3R23 3 жыл бұрын

Weeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!

@786otto 3 жыл бұрын

Looks good, who makes those?

@shanew7361 3 жыл бұрын

China who else lol

@jacobtrumpore5752 3 жыл бұрын

What’s sad is when you do a lot of cutting and grinding while following with a shop vac just to realize that you forgot to turn the vacuum on.

@savageny8769 3 жыл бұрын

Why don’t they ever put a link for where they purchased their materials ??

@mpwall123 3 жыл бұрын

Ditch the vacuum. It’s doing squat.

@etiennelj 3 жыл бұрын

The top part of the column is wider than the surface it meets; doesn’t look very good…

@etiennelj 3 жыл бұрын

@@Kevin-mp5of Can’t disagree. The columns are held by barely nothing but weight and gravity.

@dgpred1982 3 жыл бұрын

If you look closely, What a horrible location for that water spout ..

@williamskrainski8407 3 жыл бұрын

New? I've been using polycast for 25 years

@edwardfaris8516 3 жыл бұрын

And that my friends is two pros at work...and also demonstrating the 'proper' use of a face mask...

@c0mputer 3 жыл бұрын

Doctors and nurses also use masks to help prevent the spread of disease. That’s proper too.

@edwardfaris8516 3 жыл бұрын

@@c0mputer that's not the reason..nope..

@Engineer9736 3 жыл бұрын

@@edwardfaris8516 Go back to your conspiracy club

@edwardfaris8516 3 жыл бұрын

@@Engineer9736 is that best you got shill?

@fritzhotzonefritz8392 2 жыл бұрын

Ugh, someone always has to make masks about politics. And it's always some right-wing nut. Why can't you just let people enjoy the show instead of making it be about your political agenda?

@tinytim9453 3 жыл бұрын

Them plastic brackets won't last 5 years. Use stainless steel L brackets.

@kakashihatake313 3 жыл бұрын

Those were stainless steel L brackets

@alonzojohnson7955 3 жыл бұрын

First

@jasony9950 3 жыл бұрын

Who needs craftsmanship when China makes it out of plastic…

@daveklein2826 3 жыл бұрын

Simmer down Skippy. They are made in the USA and they are far better than wood

@jasony9950 3 жыл бұрын

Oh really? Can you confirm that? Permalite makes these and no where have I ever read that. Us made or Chinese made, building is all about cheap and fast now. It’s sad.