My pleasure!

thats pretty dangerous. The screws' load rating is depenedent on how far through the substrate it is intended to go, which is about 3/4". A 3/4" screw on 5/8 board is only giving you an 1/8" of grabbing power. If anyone is using this video as a guide, don't use pocket door screws on your ceiling.

@@jasonzwaagstra3948 You misread him. He was talking about fixing the drywall to the channel, not the channel to the joists. Nobody sane would use 3/4" screws through 5/8" boards lol

Me too!

He did, just barely but he did right around the 7:15 mark

Because that is a smart idea😂😂

He's a skateboarder so 1 guess as to how he did that..

Which one do you like?

Contact me on instagram. @ben_degros I'm not really taking on jobs right now but I'm not heartless either. It will depend where you live and how big the job is.

@@vancouvercarpenter "It will depend..." but he "I'll pay whatever you quote..." :D

If you wall is screwed into the stud then yes, it is more important to ensure they aren't touching. If the walls are isolated too, it is less important but still a good idea. Way I did it is to have the ceiling come within 1/4 of the wall studs. Then have your wall drywall come up to roughly the same 1/4"=3/8" gap. Them use foam cord to fill in the gaps that are 1/4" or larger and then acoustic sealant (I do it a second time after the first application has dried and shrunk). Then for finishing I used Perfect 90' type product, not paper tape, as it gives you a far straighter and stronger corner without any of the possible challenges you'd have with the gap and paper tape.

Technically it doesn't make it quieter. The first layer of insulation does the absorption enough. Adding twice as much actually does not soak up much more sound.

Resilient channel is about 5x as expensive as strapping. Works about 5x better in the soundproofing department too though. I live in the midatlantic and WISH strapping was a standard thing. I’m convinced it’s for insulation strength. For decades here 1/2” drywall and 24” centers were the standard. Throw 2 feet of cellulose on top and you’ve got one pillowy ceiling. Strapping makes hanging drywall a dream too.

Same purpose but better for noise. Hat channel with RC1-type clips is the best (aside from building room-within-a-room) but RC with mineral wool insulation (or any) is much better for sound. Really be nice if it was required for any two+ story buildings to reduce noise (and reduce ceiling cracks and screw pops).

Who glues ceilings? That’s a waste of time and money

@@Friendlyneighborhoodalien I can only think of people working alone, so the drywall sheets stay on the ceiling before they screw them ...but of course you can use other methods that do without glue ;)

@@SHINdanny you use a drywall lifter . Glue will not hold that quickly . Please don’t try that.

@@Friendlyneighborhoodalien thanks for the advice, I would never try such things, it´s a waste of money and harms the enviroment, don´t worry ;) ...but it depends on the surface and the size of your drywall sheets that glue will hold directly after applying it.

aside from not gluing, yes you have less risk of cracking and screw pops because the RC can flex between joists if there is movement without forcing the drywall to flex. So the movement from wood expansion and contraction, settling and people walking on the floor above is not stressing the joints and screws nearly as much (if at all).

It will be wider for sure. You have 2 options. Get a wider door jamb and rip it down to the new wall thickness or add a filler strip to the jamb before installing casing like in this video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ZrWelc2Zv5ypXY0.html

@@vancouvercarpenter thanks for the response. Appreciate your help.

I dont' see how. The foam board with crush and the RC1 is too flexible. Would be uneven and unusable. Also, even if you could the small gap could create worse sound problems due to something called the triple leaf effect.

First you have to fade the texture line so you don’t end up with a solid line from old to new texture with a paint scraper(west a mask ). Then do your repair and don’t go over the texture. Then you can sand it. Paint it and the you spot texture the bare (repaired) area. Then do a full texture. Double fan. Which means you texture the whole room one direction and then texture the room the other direction. If you want it perfect hire someone. I do it daily as I am in the insurance and restoration business. Or and an alternative you could laminate the ceiling with 1/2 inch drywall or 1/4 inch drywall and just make it smooth.

By fade the texture , I mean you need to take the texture all the way down to a smooth surface , a minimum of 16 inches around you patches. So it gradually goes from smooth to fully textured. That allows for a proper blend.

Ditch the pop corn

Minimizing contact surface is critical. You achieve this by hanging rc perpendicular to joists.

Highly unlikely it'll slide down if there's a bit of a friction fit and it wouldn't matter anyway - without going into too much detail, wool is there to stop air-borne sound waves from travelling within the ceiling. It makes no difference if it's resting on the ceiling or not. The only important thing is that there are no gaps in it.

What these gents said^^ plus they are pre-lam if , and that’s a big if, it falls it’ll still be an inch and three quarters above the Rez bar

You can go shorter, 1 1/4 drywall screws are used because it is the usual screw size for 1/2” drywall

@@tylermcgonigal6031 no, I meant the screw size that goes into the wood to install the channel. Not the screw to install the drywall. Anyhow, I ended up using the 1 1/4 inch screws and it worked out just fine. But for the drywall I used 1 inch fine thread screws, in conjunction with marking the studs to make sure I didn't hit them. Its unfortunate to say but, due to money and transportation issues im still working on that same renovation lol. But thanks for helping though Tyler 👍

I was wondering the same thing....

Maybe some green glue or a line of caulk.

There is a product 'Sound & Fire' seal.Adds insulation and fire stop.

No idea. I've only ever used the one kind.

@@vancouvercarpenter Hi! what kind (brand) rc channel did you use? Great video!

Are you talking about where did the little strips to avoid the wood blocking? You have to do that because the gap between RC surface and the wood (when the drywall and screw is pushing up while screwing it in) is going to be less than 1/4". It would be near impossible to not screw into the wood, short circuiting the sound isolation.

Hat channel is a different product. This only attaches on one side while hat channel is the same on both sides. Hat channel is only good for sound isolation when used with RC1 or Green Glue Whisper clips.

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? I'm unaware of any code that it would be required for. Is he saying you need addition fire resistance at the spot? (not sure what 'edges' you mean).

I am a Rocker by nature ,I used it in my entire house 15 years later ceilings look great.

@@pentupbricking1504 when u use rc1 and when u use rc2 my guy

Rc2 is basically just a metal furring strip, rc1 provides a levelling and an acoustic benefit... rc2 would be used to give you uniform attachment points or to change direction of the mounting surface... I am sure there are other reason for using rc2, but that’s basically it

Wouldn’t that be called hat track? The point of rc1 is to eliminate points of contact .

@@Friendlyneighborhoodalien hat track is similar but not the same . Hat track is u Shaped with flanges on both sides. Can be used in a similar fashion.

Fire code most likely

Green glue is supposed to be sandwiched between two layers of drywall. Essentially doubling your cost and for the outcome Rez bar will be better. I’ve done triple think insulating and then a 6 layer ceiling . That was sound proof. It all depends on how much you want to spend .

Decoupling is the first and best step in sound transfer reduction. Using a green glue type product with two layers of drywall should only really be done after you have decoupled with RC1 or hat channel and clips (and insulation in the cavity). If you just slap on a second layer of drywall with GG onto an existing wall you will hear a little reduction in some frequencies but typically it will not be the time, money and trouble.

@@Friendlyneighborhoodalien Did you use Green glue at all? I have watched GG website on how to install and it seems they want you to use 2 tubes !!! Per 4 x 8 sheet....at Amazon prices that’s 40 extra per sheet. They way they show it just Willy Nillyed on the surface with no measured depth is a waste. I plan to use 1 tube and a 1/8” notched trowel to evenly lay a layer out between the sheets. At work I lay industrial seal between aluminum and we roll it on to a specified thickness. When you take things apart you can see the even distribution everywhere. I think St Gobain just wants your money and has only done some of the science work...I’m planning on recording my initial semi scientific tests in relation to my room and see what the measured results are. Also going to test the GG on 2x2 section of sandwiched 1/2 drywall sheets to see the distribution amount.

if you install it correctly then yes

yes

720 is a lot

Great sound proofing measure. Decouples the rooms. Acoustic sealant all the gaps before taping and you have what most recording studios use on their ceilings. And I'd know ive built a few:-D

sounds like some keyboard warrior had nothing better to do than try to claim he knows better than experts in their field on a subject he knows nothing about..

Lol you are funny. It works great and the two reasons you do not hear much about it is, first, because new condos have cement floor which is even better. Second, because it is very expensive. That said, in an old house where you cannot use those, doubling the gypsum is sufficient. If you are lucky enough to have a ceiling above 8', you can even had a piece «Forenz / 1x3». That said, Ben should have noted the acoustic isolation provided by the fiber wool is essential. You do need to use both: the RC helps regarding structure movement, walking and stomping but does not do much regarding music, kids shouting or just loud TV,

The shit works well dude

Useless if you don't want an acoustic barrier maybe.