I think it's a great hobby! Enjoy getting back into it!

In the Army, I learned to write 120 words per minute. The teacher said I could give my steno book to anyone in the class and they could type it with no problem. Back then I remember being proud as I wrote 😊. That was when I was 17. I’m now in my 60’s. It’s cool watching this video

​@@Scotcheroos_by_Gramma_Valtrying to learn n reach 100 wpm for my job 😂

I, too, am much older. How good it will be for the brain to relearn this! My only concern is that my brain will confuse it with the calligraphy I have learned. LOL

You know stenographers makes between 70k to 150k guaranteed money. U should go

They should be teaching the kids shorthand instead of penmanship. It's more useful and it's a skill that could last you a lifetime if you keep using it.

I have dysgraphia, maybe it would've helped me

My teachers talked about “taking short hand notes” but did not mean this. They meant taking notes that were not complete sentences and did not make sense to me later ever.

Write what you actually HEAR. Write the SOUND of what you speak.

You think teaching cursive is hard?! Make them learn this. Lol

Can confirm, both fun and useful!

It's a 'secret' language now. Just what I had imagined it could be when I was a little kid in 1967.

I too was inspired by Dracula to look into shorthand!

Same!! I am currently being inspired by Dracula to research/learn shorthand!!

im also learning shorthand because of dracula :DD

Dracula train, woo hoo!

omg i want to learn shorthand because i’m listening to the podcast adaptation Re: Dracula :))

glad the videos have been helpful!

Thanks!

Thanks! I Hope you get back into ti!

🤣sorry about the pen grip, I never learned right as a child and this is what I'm stuck with. I'll keep the videos coming, but maybe edit out my hand 🥲

@@shorthandist Haha, didn’t mean to make you self-conscious. The penmanship is fantastic, so maybe there’s something to it! Keep up the great work.

I have a death grip when I write. I'm supposed to be left-handed.

@@shorthandist I don't have exactly the same grip as you, but I also have a "unique" grip because I had to figure it out myself. The advantage is that I don't get writer's cramp! Don't edit out your hand.

Thanks!

Awesome!

Get a dictionary you like and get going. A little bit a day adds up after a while.

Then get the Simplified Edition which preceded the Diamond Jubilee Edition.

I'm so glad you found it useful! I was hoping to make something watchable and motivating rather than dry and sleep-inducing 😅

@@shorthandist As i said i went over half two of those beginner course stretched out over 10 to 15 5 min videos both not only didnt make it easy to understand but any interest was sucked out of learning it. i was looking for teeline thinking if its completely different i just drop the idea course was 20 20 min vid. in the result your vid came up. i thought it would be just some intro or history of gregg or phonetic short hand still opened it in another tab. as i gave up on shorthand all together keep in mimd there are no apps for some reason that will teach u, well wen i closed her tab ur vid was there.. im sooooo glad i pressed play rather than closing it so thank you very much also for getting my interest /enthusiasm back in a 11 min video. hope people see this and dont assume its just an intro. id rename it to something on the lines with get stared with teeline in under 12 minutes so people will not ignore it based on bias of time compared the the other 'courses'

good luck on your shorthand journey!

You can write it in your diary and no one would know what you wrote

@@Diddledo I think there are quite a few people still alive who can read Gregg though 😂

It's vanishingly remote. But if the powers seek you they can start here...

Yeah, I got up to 95 wpm at Truman City College in Uptown, Chicago back in 1977.

I hope it's helpful!

@Vipin have u learnt it completely or not m talking about speed

@@sofimohdasif2449 . I have learned the alphabets. They are simple. The real thing is about developing speed. I am still learning to improve speed . Now it is much faster than normal way of writing

@@vipin2130 how many months till now you have invested on learning shorthand n how many hours daily brother

@@sofimohdasif2449 . It's been a few months since I started learning Gregg . In the initial two months i used to give it like more than 1 hr a day. Then I focused more on developing speed. At this point I wasn't spending long hours but still kept it consistent. The learning graph is kind of exponential if you don't break the progress. And one thing about shorthand is that it's based on the pronunciation of the word not the spelling ( which took me some time to get used to) . Happy learning 🤝

the best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago, the second best time is today! If you start learning now, maybe it will come in handy down the road! Happy writing

Yes, I believe later version of Gregg, (maybe Diamond Jubilee onward) tried to simplify things by doing away with the blending of strokes. In Simplified or anniversary, they blend the "t/v"into one stroke, and same with the "d/f" and "j/n"

Please consider the Simplified Edition. You can get PDF's of all of these books.

That's a good idea! I'll put something together for blended strokes

When 'p' or 'b' flows into 'f' or 'v' then it can be a pain. You have to define the end of the one and the beginning of the other.

With 'o' it's almost closed at the top. With 'r' it's like an open bowl. With 'l' it's like a drained pond, flatter and wider.

😆 sorry, I could make more. I guess I wasn't sure what else I had to say on the subject that wasn't just repeating what I'd already said

“Goes over or under the line.” is not an issue with Gregg. That’s a Pitman issue. Gregg is all about the individual sizes of the lines and how you make them easy.

A lot of the old transcription audios are pretty outdated and dry. But you could look for typing transcription audio and practice those. Or might be more fun to put on some music your'e familiar with and practice transcribing that!

I knew a woman who wanted to brush up on her short hand so she would practice while listening to the tv.

KZfaq has LOTS of people talking and you can slow them down to .25 if you want.

Doing it EVERY DAY is all that matters if you really want it.

I can't afford the book yet so I'll be using your exercise in this vid as my reference :D

The PDF's are ALL there.

it's too late for me😂. glad you like the video

@@shorthandist mmm... Are you over 70 years?

@@valobarroco I was thinking the same thing. That's not a fantastic fist for pen control or speed, and it looks terribly uncomfortable.

There's a moleskine with gridded paper, and also a steno pad, which divides the paper in half vertically!

yes! Shape. Have fun on your shorthand journey!

Just a hint about those "diacritics" in Anniversary--they're only used when you need to distinguish a vowel to avoid confusion. In about 99% of the cases, those marks are omitted. It's nice to have them, for example, if your material contains words like "pan" and "pane" in the same copy, but usually context distinguishes the vowel and most stenographers aren't willing to sacrifice speed to add those marks.

Yes. Shap is correct.And sheep would have a smaller circle in between. Shop would have the horse-shoe shape...

And 'shoop' would have the horse-shoe facing down.

The spiral notebook is a stenopad, the squared is a moleskine, and the pen is a red pilot g2

@@shorthandist Thank you!

If you're adhering to the proper outlines from the system and dictionary, then no. That being said, I noticed when I was reading something that was a british translation that they left off all the "r" endings, and it confused me at first until I realized the person had a british accent 😆

i never noticed than 🤣

You can likely find a pdf for that.

That's true!

Gregg Shorthand is a dream come true for Spanish. The vast majority of Spanish is pronounced exactly as written.

It's distracting.

Totally agree…I really want to watch this in order to brush up on my shorthand, but that hand is very distracting. 😬

I never saw his hand, I was judgmental about the largeness of his strokes. Seemed too big but I like the idea of using the graph paper.

it's a poem by g.k. chesterton called The Skeleton. Chattering finch and water-fly Are not merrier than I; Here among the flowers I lie Laughing everlastingly. No: I may not tell the best; Surely, friends, I might have guessed Death was but the good King's jest, It was hid so carefully

@@shorthandist lovely 😍

I always write cursive when I leave notes for my teenage girls - their answer "I cant read this!" - LOL, then LEARN! So now I've decided to mess with them more so I'm relearning Shorthand 🤭

We should have been taught shorthand from the very beginning and while we're at it I wish we could have been taught to use the Japanese soroban too. Imagine how much those skills could have helped you!

pretty much!

Ding, Ding, Ding!!! And bonus: You can do Gregg Shorthand in Spanish too. Spanish is known for being a language where it sounds the same as it's written.

I did a video about modern uses! mostly, privacy and fun.

It feels really good doing it. I'm working my way through the dictionary and I love seeing how a new word looks in shorthand.

You'll also have a 'secret' language that only you can read.

Yes!

It could have been "mayor", "mare" or "mar" depending on the context of the sentence

Mayor = m ay ee oh rr. Long horizontal, big circle, little circle, horseshoe, r. Mare and mar = m ah rr. Long horizontal, big circle, r. Marry = m ah r ee. Long horizontal, big circle, r, ee.

They're both perfectly usable systems, and take a similar amount of time to learn, so it's up to you! Personally, I prefer the appearance of Gregg. To me, pitman looks a bit ugly on the page, whereas Gregg looks nice.

@@shorthandist Even though I love Gregg due to its appearance on the notebook however to learn this system there are very few free resources to learn this on KZfaq and other platforms as far as I have researched on this as compared to Pitman. So If you have any good resources for learning the gregg that would be really helpful to me. ~ And Thank you for your reply Lots of Love from India 🌟

Gregg. All you need is a regular pen. With Pitman they have different thicknesses in their penstrokes.

Main, mean, many

​@@shorthandist How do I differentiate main from man, mean from men

@@dublUayaychtee the context of the sentence!

Mean and men are identical. Man has an 'a' sound.

I only write Gregg, so I'm biased. But, I think Gregg is much nicer to look at than pitman, and has a lot of easy to find materials for learning and reading practice.

@@shorthandist Sadly here in india there are no Gregg institutes, and hard to find material. Ultimately there's no one on KZfaq to teach it! Do you have any plans to educate us with chapters( to reach 100wpm) ? i

Gregg. Pitman has different thicknesses of the lines and you'd need an old-time pen to do that. Gimme my Biro!

There's a link in the description to the full manual. To achieve 100 wpm, and be able to read it back, I think would take 3-6months, depending on how much you study. Good luck!

@@shorthandist much appreciated.

I thought the word above was SHE but it could be SHING if it was meant to be a . at the end of the SH stroke. I'm assuming shorthand is only English or at least non tonal languages

Good question! I know Gregg shorthand had French and Spanish editions, but outside of that I would imagine it would take some special adapting.@@HelicopterShark

Spanish is one of the best languages for Gregg Shorthand.

Actually in old Peanuts comics when woodstock is writing letters to snoopy it shows as scribbles in the word bubble, but is actually gregg shorthand!

@@shorthandist I knew it!!!! Thanks for the replay!

They'll pull out their iPhones and ask ChatGPT to translate!!!

I said shape but idk

​@@mmcrazy_ Yeah I've been studying gregg more recently and I think you're right. He wrote his 'e' circle *smaller* on the one above. So it has to be an 'a' sound. TLDR: Yeah I think *Shape* (sh-ā-p) is right.

😂yeah I do find it a little amusing that people go out of their way to comment on the way I hold a pen, and even to advise me to learn the "right" way. I've been holding it this way forever, don't worry folks, I'm just fine.

shape!

@@shorthandist Well…. I’ll get there 😅

Short downward stroke, big circle, overturned bowl. Shake and shack.