How to make a vambrace. How to make medieval arm armor #5

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Greenleaf Workshop

Greenleaf Workshop

7 жыл бұрын

In this, part 5, of the arm build I am looking at the vambrace. There are a number of techniques that work as you make a vambrace, but this is a solid one for starting out as it only requires a few tools.
Vambrace shapes generally always follow the arm, but change a little in aesthetic and a lot in decoration depending on where and when you are in time - but this should get you started.
Historically vambraces are rarely, if ever, simple tubes as seen in most popular fantasy TV, games and films, this is frequently done simply to save time and so money, but robs the armour of its wonderful aesthetic and fluidity.

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@felix.der.ritter
@felix.der.ritter 3 жыл бұрын
You one of the reason I startet making Armour in the Lockdown. I also filmed myself
@zombieslogic8390
@zombieslogic8390 3 жыл бұрын
I subbed... More armor vids to watch the better XD
@felix.der.ritter
@felix.der.ritter 3 жыл бұрын
@@zombieslogic8390 Yeah nice! Next video are Sabatons.
@CoalMiningAlchemist
@CoalMiningAlchemist 7 жыл бұрын
great video man!
@pauldavis1795
@pauldavis1795 7 жыл бұрын
truly great videos I am just getting into making amour and this has been very useful to me much appreciated
@GreenleafWorkshop
@GreenleafWorkshop 7 жыл бұрын
My absolute pleasure, exactly the reason I started to do them. I was thinking more along the lines of a book, but then youtube became a thing and here we are :)
@jesseswinney9643
@jesseswinney9643 6 жыл бұрын
Looks like this technique could be used for greaves too. Thanks for the video.
@lukasjacobs2358
@lukasjacobs2358 7 жыл бұрын
Now that video came at the right time! I'm just in the process of making my very first armouring project and it's a vambrace. It actually is drain pipe shaped, even though I know that's not historically accurate. It just seemed a lot easier for a first try. My problem is: I got into that "U shape" you mentioned. Any ideas on how to get rid of that? I'm an absolute beginner after all and your videos help a lot
@GreenleafWorkshop
@GreenleafWorkshop 7 жыл бұрын
First off check your pattern is half the circumference required. If it is and you're happy take it over a circular former, I use the back of the stake you can see in 6:07 it has a nice return weight and helps iron out those pesky flats. If you don't have one just work it from the inside over a wood surface or similar and gently smooth it out. Often flatten it out a good bit and then gently work it back ... it takes time but gets simpler each time. Good luck with the project :)
@NoBSSurvival
@NoBSSurvival 7 жыл бұрын
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
@MRKapcer13
@MRKapcer13 7 жыл бұрын
You could add subtitles via KZfaq's connotations? That seems easier than editing them into the video itself.
@MRKapcer13
@MRKapcer13 7 жыл бұрын
Sorry, meant annotations. Those two words are too similar! :P
@Evan-rj9xy
@Evan-rj9xy 7 жыл бұрын
You can also add captions to the video after it's uploaded
@GreenleafWorkshop
@GreenleafWorkshop 7 жыл бұрын
Every day's a school day. Still very much a youtube newbie, if I can figure it out I will have a play this evening. Thanks. :)
@haydenschmidt9709
@haydenschmidt9709 6 жыл бұрын
This is not really related, but what do you recommend putting on armour to stop rust? I often see people wearing armour that I know isn't stainless steel, but it doesn't look oily and they don't act like it is. Would some kind of wax work? Thanks.
@GreenleafWorkshop
@GreenleafWorkshop 6 жыл бұрын
Hi there, any sort of oil can help a long way brands in the UK tend to be 3 in 1 and Swarfega's Duck Oil. I tend to avoid WD40, it's more of a cleaning agent and reacts when warmed up next to a camp fire and make armour look plastic requiring quite a bit of clean up. Olive Oil works, but does get a bit clogged over time if it's not cleaned up regularly. I've found it best to give your armour a spray and wipe with something at the end of each day if the finish is important to you. Another long term, but time consuming finish, is to heat the metal gently with a flame, rub beeswax over the surface and buff backs, done a few times it is fantastic. I use it a lot on the inside of armour, adding it directly to any rusted surface very thickly and gently buffing back a bit, after a number of times it creates a near impenetrable surface that doesn't rust, move of even scratch. Good luck.
@1StonedMind1
@1StonedMind1 Жыл бұрын
How do you married two parts? Sadly, that you no showed this process too, this is the main problem for beginners, to make few different parts works together :(
@haydenschmidt9709
@haydenschmidt9709 6 жыл бұрын
For greaves, would you basically just use the same trapezoid kind of shape to start with the bottom shaped as it should be, and then just form it the same way you did with these vambraces?
@GreenleafWorkshop
@GreenleafWorkshop 6 жыл бұрын
Pretty much, there's a little more to it, but that's the basics of it :)
@leeknivek
@leeknivek 7 жыл бұрын
How do you think stainless would hold up to moderate abuse? ie, full contact, but only a handful of times. I do sheet metal for a living, ductwork, and I know stainless is tough as nails compared to galv. I have some 22ga scrap from work I think I'd like to make into something. I haven't ever worked with high carbon sheet metal, plus, I don't have the resources to heat treat bigger pieces. Is it worth doing instead of mild?
@GreenleafWorkshop
@GreenleafWorkshop 7 жыл бұрын
Kevin Keel hello mate. I've very limited experience with stainless if I'm honest. Are you in the US, it tends to be used more there. I would suggest contacting the full contact chaps of the US HMB team, I think they use SS quite a bit. 22g sounds a bit thin to me, but they'd probably know for sure.
@GreenleafWorkshop
@GreenleafWorkshop 7 жыл бұрын
I'd suggest learning in mild that way you tend to learn rather than fight the material while learning.
@leeknivek
@leeknivek 7 жыл бұрын
Greenleaf Workshop well, all i know is is when i installed these pieces, it was a bear to put it. Too hard for screws and sawzall blades. Doesnt dent when i hit it with a hammer. I'll do some more looking though, thanks
@GreenleafWorkshop
@GreenleafWorkshop 7 жыл бұрын
Kevin Keel sounds like it might be strong enough, but check with the experienced guys first. Sounds like you've done a good job :)
@stevieb5008
@stevieb5008 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve watched this a dozen times! Cheers! Are you an ex-matelot by any chance. You so just like my chief stoker haha
@GreenleafWorkshop
@GreenleafWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Ex forces, a very big EX (26 years ago) but not a stoker nor chief. :) Glad your enjoying the videos.
@BM-yy8db
@BM-yy8db 7 жыл бұрын
Were you at any chance listening to Professor Elemental while you were working?
@GreenleafWorkshop
@GreenleafWorkshop 7 жыл бұрын
Not this time, but I do like his work. I usually turn the radio down but must have left it up a bit more than usual this time. Normally it's Planet Rock - a must have for all armourers IMHO. www.planetrock.com/
@BM-yy8db
@BM-yy8db 7 жыл бұрын
I'll make sure to check out Planet Rock next time I'm doing metalwork! I'm asked because at 13:32 I heard the exact bit of harmonica Professor Elemental uses in Enter the Convention. (Gave me a good 30 minutes of "where have I heard this?! Why is it so familliar?!")
@GreenleafWorkshop
@GreenleafWorkshop 7 жыл бұрын
lol. will take a listen myself. Can't place the actual music it is, if I do I'll post it here :)
@Izirath
@Izirath 7 жыл бұрын
When's the next installment coming out? :)
@GreenleafWorkshop
@GreenleafWorkshop 7 жыл бұрын
Hi, sorry it's been a bit longer than anticipated I ran into a little problem, the customer wanted the work a little ahead of the time I anticipated, so I had to finish them off quickly, but I took some raw phone footage and pictures, so I'm trying to see what I can do to create a finished piece. Failing that I have to make some more arms shortly (starting towards the end of next week) and I will use them to pick up what was left out, apologies.
@Izirath
@Izirath 7 жыл бұрын
Greenleaf Workshop oh haha well that's how it goes I guess. And no problems, it's not like I'm for the privilege of you sharing it! I find myself spending alot more time fitting the pieces to my measurements, is this something you do too?
@cerocero2817
@cerocero2817 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, you are doing a great job. I have read almost everything about armouring in books and webs, but you really bring that knowledge to live. I'm currently working on a 14th century arm harness, it's the first piece of armour i work on, and i have a doubt: is it apropiate for the first lame witch comes from the couter to the vambrace to be able to open completely when putting the arm straight to have a natural movement or is it enough if the combined movemennt of both lames and the vambrace allow it? By the way, this is what i got so far: drive.google.com/open?id=0BwCqf9w_mvsbZHFQM3h2Smp0WVE
@GreenleafWorkshop
@GreenleafWorkshop 7 жыл бұрын
Hi there, I'm not entirely sure what you mean. Looking at the picture you have sent the elbow is nice and deep so I imagine that you have no problem bending the elbow past 90 degrees. The lames should close back so that the arm can be straightened properly and in some ways a little beyond straight. The whole arm (all the lames) should work together to allow this, but IMHO should be able to do it just one pair. Looking closely at the picture it might be that your rivet points are too far back, can you take a picture of the lames closed (as though the arm was straight), that might help. Nice job though, the depth of the couter looks nice and is the thing most of us struggle with when we start.
@CoalMiningAlchemist
@CoalMiningAlchemist 7 жыл бұрын
by the way what is your dishing form made of?
@GreenleafWorkshop
@GreenleafWorkshop 7 жыл бұрын
The one in the thumbnail is the bottom of an oxygen cylinder that I picked up once. They work well but don't allow you to get too deep if you need to, but are great at what they do and when you start out. Just get someone who knows what they are doing to cut the bottom off or it can get a bit explosive ... so I am told.
@CoalMiningAlchemist
@CoalMiningAlchemist 7 жыл бұрын
+Greenleaf Workshop thanks man! I actually just finished watching your video and now I feel embarrassed:)
@GreenleafWorkshop
@GreenleafWorkshop 7 жыл бұрын
lol, no problem at all - hope it was useful.
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