How to Make Boiled Linseed Oil I Making Homemade Woodworking BLO Finish

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7 жыл бұрын

How to make boiled Linseed oil has been a video I have wanted to make for a long time. I have made several videos on BLO and Woodworking finish as BLO is one of my favorite finishes. So next time some one asks me how to make Boiled linseed oil or how to make BLO there will finally be a video for that. One of my favorite Hand tool woodworking oil finishes. How-to Make Boiled Linseed Oil!
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@hernancoronel
@hernancoronel 7 жыл бұрын
Hi James remember that when you change the pressure of the oil you change the boiling temperature. That is why water boils at room temperature in a vacuum! So it is not only that they remove the oxygen but they use the vacuum to arrive at the right temperature faster. Thanks for the video!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
True. but the temperature you have to reach is still the same the boiling point of BLO is much higher then it's flash point.
@DuffyHomoHabilis
@DuffyHomoHabilis 6 ай бұрын
Something doesn't make sense here. Several comments: Why heat over an open flame? Seems way more dangerous than an electric stove or hotplate. If the boiling point is higher than the flash point, then it will ignite before it boils. How did your friend reach that higher temperature while boiling under a vacuum? Once something is boiling (at ANY pressure) the temperature remains constant. In other words, if you pull a vacuum, it will boil at a lower temperature. It will remain at that temperature until everything is boiled off and turned to vapor. Only then can the temperature increase (in a closed system.) Also, all finishes are "food safe" once fully cured. Lacquer, varnish, polyurethane, epoxy, everything.
@DarrenLeung
@DarrenLeung 2 ай бұрын
@@DuffyHomoHabilis I think he said the ignition temp is higher, albeit only slightly, than boiling point, hence the usage of a vacuum boiler to prevent combustion. The boiling point of linseed oil is very high indeed, around 600F and as you can see in the video, he only reaches 460F in open air without boiling and it already polymerizes enough. Presumably, a vacuum boiler would allow the linseed oil to boil at a similar temperature, again without the fear of ignition.
@RS-vn9lo
@RS-vn9lo 7 ай бұрын
I have watched your videos on blo, very informative, and well done. Gardner's and farmers used to use blo for their hand tools. and One thing I have seen in any of them, unless I missed it. Is the old rule for use on such things as shovels, pitch forks of any wood handled tool. Once a day for a week, once a week for a month, once a month for a year. And then just once a year. Like you, I like using blo, and have for many many years. And you are right, the feel of the wood is so much better.
@CutterCo
@CutterCo 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly the information I was looking for! Thank you!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
My pleasure. Anytime
@brenttamatea7578
@brenttamatea7578 Жыл бұрын
i read an article years ago and made my own boiled linseed oil from raw linseed oil i found the flax seed oil works even better because its more refined all you do is put the raw linseed oil or flax seed oil in water bath and keep it that heat for about 3 hours and then put it aside and the raw linseed oil will separate the tacky musilage which used to be used as a paper glue and linseed oil then pour off the linseed oil and set it aside and you have boiled linseed oil with no additives i use it for making window putty have done for years old traditional method using hydrated lime or what they call slaked lime thats how it used to be made 100 years ago. .It drys straight away and doesnt get tacky.
@user-dz9id1tu2w
@user-dz9id1tu2w Жыл бұрын
Please brief more much
@DNHandcrafted
@DNHandcrafted 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Good idea heating this outside, that makes a lot of sense. I think I'm going to give this a go one of these days.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
sweet! dont burn your house down. LOL
@toddsheffield4271
@toddsheffield4271 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you, this changes alot for me.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
glad I could help. Be carful!
@FredMcIntyre
@FredMcIntyre 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info James! 👍 Been looking forward to this!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
thanks Fred! glad I could help!
@practicallyIndependent
@practicallyIndependent 6 жыл бұрын
I have been looking forward to watching this video. I am ordering some flaxseed oil now. Thanks for sharing this James!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
LICW! thanks Dillons!
@HeartlandMakesAndOutdoors
@HeartlandMakesAndOutdoors 4 жыл бұрын
Nicely done sir, thank you for the video and i hope you have a blessed week. i will have yo give this a try sometime dale
@sleepyjason9146
@sleepyjason9146 7 жыл бұрын
That wall looks so amazing! I haven't been watching in a few weeks but oh my i missed so much! the bench is amazing too! nad the vice!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. lots more to change soon.
@Lemongrasspicker
@Lemongrasspicker 7 жыл бұрын
Looks like fun! When I actually have a yard I'll have to give this a shot
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
LOL ya not the type of thing you want to do inside!
@orelygarcia
@orelygarcia 7 жыл бұрын
Like always, great information. Thumbs up James.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
thanks man!
@mikaelfischer8429
@mikaelfischer8429 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, Great information.
@linneasimonalle5604
@linneasimonalle5604 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info about the temperatures. You are totally right... I tried it in a crockpot for a few days & it just got hot! The basic recipes you have are wood-finishing gold! Thanks for working it out so I didn't have to...
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@jayemporia4516
@jayemporia4516 2 жыл бұрын
They ARE gold! I made a batch of the hard stuff with the raw linseed oil (FLAX OIL) and it came out excellent. Happened to find some of those silicon slider trays to make some smallish pucks with..worked like a charm! I put a little citris scent into it before it cooled fully so my pucks smell like honey and citris! Almost edible 😅
@artcherryme
@artcherryme 3 жыл бұрын
big thanks for the vid - you may well have saved me from spontaneous combustion ! ! ! God Bless
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 3 жыл бұрын
here is a video of it catching on fire if toy want to see more about it. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g6qAf6mgvLTQhmw.html
@rollingstone3017
@rollingstone3017 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and informative!! 😎
@JayCWhiteCloud
@JayCWhiteCloud 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation!!!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
thanks man! I do love my BLO!
@JackbenchWoodworking
@JackbenchWoodworking 7 жыл бұрын
Great info, James
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
thanks man!
@guybr3
@guybr3 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, that's useful for me
@oldmanfromscenetwentyfour8164
@oldmanfromscenetwentyfour8164 7 жыл бұрын
... add chopped garlic and shallots, lightly brown, add crumbled bacon and serve over Penne ... serves 6. :-P
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
LOL thnaks!
@boop7313
@boop7313 Ай бұрын
delish!😝😂
@matthewyu3531
@matthewyu3531 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@confiscator
@confiscator 7 жыл бұрын
Great vid. I'd like to see your friend's process using the vacuum boiler as well.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
I keep asking him but he does not want the liability. that is why he does not sell it.
@viscache1
@viscache1 3 жыл бұрын
With mixtures of some all organic ingredients using recipes from the 14th through 16th C. our small farm based businesses make furniture finishes that rival modern polymers. We also make soap and wax based finishes for everything from wood furniture, French polish highlighter, wood trim, casements and wood floors. All non-toxic all organic. We have a small customer base who understand that in fine finishes...you get what you pay for!
@owendaulton9316
@owendaulton9316 6 жыл бұрын
YES! Finally someone on KZfaq reads The Wheel Of Time! Love those books. Great video too.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
Love that series. looking forward to it coming out on Amazon!
@JackmanWorks
@JackmanWorks 7 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. I won't be doing that any time soon :D
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
LOL come on. burn down the new house!
@vesli222
@vesli222 2 жыл бұрын
nice tutorial
@kunjararaya
@kunjararaya 2 жыл бұрын
good man!
@nurgle11
@nurgle11 4 жыл бұрын
I took it up to 450 degrees and it burst into flames way before then ... then I realized you meant Fahrenheit no Celsius (only joking).
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
LOL nice!
@mykofreder1682
@mykofreder1682 3 жыл бұрын
First small batch in the garden on a hot plate was a leaning experience on boiling over and flash point. The hotplate was only damaged cosmetically and I am de-carboning the pan. Looked at the finer and found around 455F or 235C get ready to remove the oil, it will boil over if you are not there for removal from the heat and it will flash on the hotplate. Have a cover for the pan ready also probably is a must, that should put it out if it didn't boil over.
@ItsRud1
@ItsRud1 5 жыл бұрын
I love that wall. You should make a video about that wall. So colorful.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I have a whole series of videos in putting together the two walls each tool holder has its own video.
@jimhyslop
@jimhyslop Жыл бұрын
@@WoodByWright I'm used to the current look of your shop. It seems a lot of the KZfaq woodworkers moved this summer - Rex Krueger, The Wood Whisperer, Tamar - so when I saw this video I thought you had moved!
@MarkyDesigns3000
@MarkyDesigns3000 7 жыл бұрын
Thankfully I can buy it off of Amazon, because they sell it here in Honduras. Nice, thanks for sharing your knowledge.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
Sweet! don't have too much fun!
@MarkyDesigns3000
@MarkyDesigns3000 7 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I meant to say: " They do not sell it in here". So that is why I will try to buy from Amazon. LOL
@PaulsGarage
@PaulsGarage 7 жыл бұрын
Love it! I once bought a bunch of flax seeds with the idea of growing my own fibers for making flax bow strings, and seeds for the oil. Unfortunately, my apartment balcony at the time was not up to the task of growing them! lol i had all the plans and i couldn't grow the flower. I've been using Tried and True brand linseed oil for the reason you mention (no chemicals added). It's good stuff, but i'd much rather make my own, thanks for the video!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
I am hoping soon to get a press and make my own but have not yet. Thanks Paul
@emilys3638
@emilys3638 4 жыл бұрын
Oooh tried and true makes it with no chemicals?? This is very useful information! I'm personally a bit nervous to try and make it so this is great. Thank you!!!
@saito1975
@saito1975 6 жыл бұрын
Hi man, I did it .... the result was so great . thanks for every thing
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
Sweet. That is what I like to hear.
@saito1975
@saito1975 6 жыл бұрын
I made a little amount (about 200mlg- 455 f ) as test the polymerization was wounderful . I use it with white Oak and Mahogany wood three coats for each and 15 min between every coat. It was Wooow and no need for wax or shalak or any thing . thank you again my friend
@saito1975
@saito1975 6 жыл бұрын
I want to send a photo about this project , what's your facebook account ?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
if you Look up "Wood By Wright Hive Mind" that is my face book group.
@markprentice1961
@markprentice1961 6 жыл бұрын
Atmospheric pressure raises the boiling point...so removing atmospheric pressure (putting under vacuum) lowers the boiling point. Under vacuum, less heat is needed to achieve the boiling point. Like your videos...Keep up the good work!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
true, but in this case, the problem is not the boiling point but the flash point. the boiling point is MUCH MUCH higher. did I misspeak in the video? sorry, I must not have caught that.
@ikust007
@ikust007 2 жыл бұрын
Merci beaucoup!
@cjenner865
@cjenner865 6 жыл бұрын
Epic!
@jayemporia4516
@jayemporia4516 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments James and Bandanadrummer95. Much appreciated. Unfortunately, pressure cookers don't have temperature controls...only pressure..and of course it's dependent upon steam to build that pressure. Water and oil usually don't do well together except under a few limited circumstances. Thanks James for describing the difference between the two instruments. Is that what you're using when you soak wood into an epoxy type bath..like mallet heads?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 2 жыл бұрын
That is actually a vacuum chamber not a pressure pot. However if using epoxy it is often easer to use a pressure pot to compress the bubbles rather then sucking them out of the epoxy. For the mallet heads it is a temperature set resin so the vacuum chamber will suck the air out of the heads and when you let the air back into the pot it will press the resin into the wood and fill those voids
@WmCRobison
@WmCRobison 6 жыл бұрын
Funny you should say that. The shutters in my bedroom growing up were finished with boiled linseed oil (infact all the shutters in the house were). To this day, the smell of linseed oil makes me think of home.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
I love it. I have the same thought about mothballs. reminds me of my grandparents.
@jimbo2629
@jimbo2629 6 жыл бұрын
I’ve only ever used raw linseed oil. I love it. Oiling walnut in my opinion is essential before any other finishing. Here it is cheapest from horsey shops. I think it is mixed into horse feeds.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
So true. Love the color it brings out.
@vesli222
@vesli222 2 жыл бұрын
@@WoodByWright but it goes ranced over time
@gregu4791
@gregu4791 5 жыл бұрын
Just a note- the link for your probe thermometer in the description took me to the amazon page for your lapel microphone.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I will have to see what is wrong.
@chuckturner6984
@chuckturner6984 4 жыл бұрын
Those stacked joints, in the wall, to your right, are making me crazy! Great video, though.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
Lol that's why I covered them with tool racks. This video was shot in the middle of rearranging the shop. Unfortunately got it into the boards on a stud.
@brightonworkbench
@brightonworkbench 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, great video! Do you have anymore information on the vacuum boiler your friend uses?
@HollywoodCreeper
@HollywoodCreeper 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine if you grew your own flax seed and made your oil. Hahahahahaha That would be pretty cool. I'd like to try.
@Man_De
@Man_De 3 жыл бұрын
I use a candy thermometer that seems to work well.
@PinballMan
@PinballMan 7 жыл бұрын
Actually this video was quite convenient since I seen you use the boiled linseed oil on the last video of the walnut burl. I quickly started to search the internet.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
thanks. glad I could help!
@AbouTheMagnanimus
@AbouTheMagnanimus 7 жыл бұрын
Have you looked at the Tried & True finished oils? I've been using them and enjoy them greatly. They varnish provides a very nice layer, but I grant it takes a long time to build. The original finish with the beeswax gives a very soft to the touch finish.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
yup, I have used them several times.
@frankpallister
@frankpallister 5 жыл бұрын
i would like to see the oil next day to see what settled out !
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
nothing. it stays homologous. unless you have other things in the oil to begin with from the pressing.
@frankpallister
@frankpallister 5 жыл бұрын
something i discovered on vacation in the USA i tried to boil oil to make violin varnish for my buddy but it did not break i conclude that the oil (from amazon ) was not raw it has been refined making it useless for my purpose
@boop7313
@boop7313 Ай бұрын
Sounds dangerous I'm in!🤣🤣🤣
@BDM_PT
@BDM_PT 6 жыл бұрын
Hi there from Portugal(Coimbra) Nice :D Obrigado(Thanks)
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
thanks man!
@kacperpiech6988
@kacperpiech6988 3 жыл бұрын
With vacum it's more about lowering the boiling point of liquids (and keeping the ignition point the same) than with removing oxygen. But probably both things matter ;)
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 3 жыл бұрын
No. The oil doesn't actually boil. That's a misconception because they named it boiled Lindsay oil. It's more about taking the oxygen out of the environment so that it won't catch fire. You still have to bring it up to the same temperature.
@CalebNorthNorman
@CalebNorthNorman 2 жыл бұрын
i think i recognize that as an Aldi Sauerkraut jar LOL
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 2 жыл бұрын
Oh good eye!
@leafypineglass1306
@leafypineglass1306 Жыл бұрын
Alum is supposed to be a very good chemical drier for linseed oil [1] and is used in deodorant so should be safe for skin contact even after heating. But it's not used as much industrially since it doesn't work with all varnish resins. I might try using it someday. [1]: Zumbühl, Stefan & Zindel, Christophe. (2022). Historical siccatives for...
@con-f-use
@con-f-use Жыл бұрын
Alum as the name suggest is an Aluminium compound and its use in deodorants stirred up quite the controversy because it was deemed carcinogenic and thought to cause some mood disorders. That has largely been debunked now, so skin contact should be save indeed. I would still be a bit careful re food safety.
@leafypineglass1306
@leafypineglass1306 Жыл бұрын
@@con-f-use Potash alum is pretty safe, it's used in pickling and baking. Food grade alum is readily available in Amazon.
@mrcheese3981
@mrcheese3981 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Have you ever tried using citrus solvent with pure BLO? It's often used to thin tung oil, but I wondered if it would improve penetration and decrease drying times with BLO without all the chemical solvents you find in the store-bought stuff?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
thanks. I have not used that combo. it should improve the penetration, but it would take it longer to cure as BLO does not dries it reacts with oxygen and polymerizes. the solvent would keep oxygen from it tell the solvent evaporates.
@joshl90
@joshl90 7 жыл бұрын
That tool holder on the wall to your left, I love it. Where can I get one?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
amzn.to/2hy5Cn1 here you go. I was wanting something to hold files so they do not rub on each other. and for the price this was great.
@Fire_arc_and_muscle
@Fire_arc_and_muscle 7 жыл бұрын
Mr. Wright, First thank you for the videos. They are great. After watching a few, I bought some BLO to try and will be hunting down a good source for the non-toxic variety. I am always looking for safer options with regards to fumes and skin contact. My hobbies shouldn't be slowly killing me. Do you have any recommendations for a durable finish along these same lines? I would like to not wear a respirator and gloves if I don't have to.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
most any film finish is going to have a polymer that will cure and then require gloves. but a traditional shellac is about as pure as it comes. I would recommend wearing gloves as you do not want to be picking it off your hands for the next few days but if you do get some on you it is not a health risk.
@Orxenhorf
@Orxenhorf 7 жыл бұрын
I've been putting multiple coats of boiled linseed oil on a table-top workbench. Doing the top side now. However, the bottom is a sheet of 1/4" over 3/4" rough plywood. That side just kept sucking up oil like I was pouring on a sponge.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
yup. some woods and expectedly end grain will do that. the oil can penetrate deeply. if you put the first coat on and wait 2 days then put the second coat on it will not soak up as much as the first coat has hardened and blocked the poors.
@lekingdelachasse
@lekingdelachasse 4 жыл бұрын
Hey James, nice video. Just wanted to know what are the smoke point and flash point of purified linseed oil when you buy a food grade type one. Keep up with the good work.
@vitalsteve1
@vitalsteve1 2 жыл бұрын
its actually really low. people use it to coat cast iron but the smoke point is like 275°. not advisable
@chrisgriffith1573
@chrisgriffith1573 Жыл бұрын
You really should look into some other methods for refining linseed oil. You can remove mucilage by a saline/saltwater solution mix in warm water, which clarifies the oil, and also makes the oil more resilient, this method was used by Masters of the 16th and 17th centuries, this method also works with alcohol. This leaves the fats, omega 3, 6, and 9, which are what make the bonding chains and begin the curing process when oxygen is introduced. The mucilage is what causes browning which cannot be reversed in the oil. By letting the oil stand in the sun for 30 days, this will make the oil clear, and you avoid the yellow nature of the mix.
@algio3041
@algio3041 11 ай бұрын
So letting it sit in the sun should be done before boiling?
@chrisgriffith1573
@chrisgriffith1573 11 ай бұрын
@@algio3041 Or as an alternative to boiling at all...
@lad208
@lad208 3 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video on what it's look like when over heated
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 3 жыл бұрын
If you heat it too much it will burst into flames. I do have another video showing rags catching on fire, but not in the pot.
@opasworkshop8373
@opasworkshop8373 7 жыл бұрын
I don't know James sounds like an insurance scam to get a new gas grill lol nice job brother very explanatory.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
LOL sounds about right!
@johnmcdougald1238
@johnmcdougald1238 7 жыл бұрын
I believe in one of your older videos, you talk about using BLO with a wax mixed in with it. When would you add the wax to the oil so that it combine with it? What kind of wax would you use that wouldn't separate from the oil? Thanks
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
yup I did a whole video on that. the wax oil mix makes paste wax. and you can put in what ever wax and oil mix you want. I normally use bees wax. and you only have to heat it up to around 200F for that. no reason to even get to the smoke point.
@McAVITYourWay.
@McAVITYourWay. 7 жыл бұрын
Hi James, how does the vacuum method work, I`m guessing the air is removed from the chamber, then heated?! or is it actually a pressure pot?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
the air is removed and the gas that comes off the oil is also removed as it is heated. you do not want oil above flash point under pressure. that is called a bomb. LOL
@Earthandflaxstudio
@Earthandflaxstudio 6 жыл бұрын
Have you thought about removing the protein from the flax oil before you boil it? Biggest advantage being you have an oil that does not attract bugs/mildew or can go rancid over time as the food value has accentually been removed, leaving only what is good for wood surfaces. Thanks for the video!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
I have done that, but I am not a fan of the color, and that is the big reason I use it. plus I use it fast enough there is no fear of it going rancid before use.
@Earthandflaxstudio
@Earthandflaxstudio 6 жыл бұрын
Hmm that is interesting as I assume the DIY BLO with protein is darker correct? We have always worked towards the lightest color possible so it highlights the natural color of the wood so that is a new perspective! You definitely need a purified linseed oil oil to make exterior paint and stain but interior projects probably doesn't matter.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
The fat and protein are what bring out the striking color difference and chatoyancy in figured wood. that is the big reason they do not bleach most commercial versions. but when you want to color something with a pigment then you do not want the color of the oil to mix with the pigment. that is why it is normally bleached before making paint or stains. this is, in fact, the historical method for artistic oil paints. but for just that natural wood look with just a hint of color to bring out and punctuate the wood figure, not much works as well as pure linseed oil.
@Earthandflaxstudio
@Earthandflaxstudio 6 жыл бұрын
Thats interesting as there is a still a lovely color to the purified linseed oil as it is not bleached but I'm now curious. Will have to find time for an experiment of my own with conventional boiled linseed oil and purified! Thanks again!
@vi683a
@vi683a 5 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of trying refined linseed oil, which i assume has has the proteins removed?
@ArkansasPilgrim
@ArkansasPilgrim 5 жыл бұрын
The vacuum also lowers the boiling point of the linseed oil.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
It does. But that is somewhat of a misnomer as you are not actually boiling the oil you were just getting it to a temperature where a few chemical reactions happen.
@ArkansasPilgrim
@ArkansasPilgrim 5 жыл бұрын
I was wondering the whether the boiling was for evaporation, or for causing changes in the oil itself.
@k.k8791
@k.k8791 8 ай бұрын
I really liked your video very helpful..subscribed ✨️ Btw can i use regular linseed oil ( the one i use for oil painting) ?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 8 ай бұрын
sure. it just takes 5-10 times longer to cure
@billquillin1952
@billquillin1952 7 жыл бұрын
You must be psychic!! I have recently been thinking of using BLO on my new picnic table. I much appreciate this vid. P.S. If you have an opinion on my idea, please let me know!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
I do not know if I would use BLO on an out door product with out reapplying it every other month. it is not a durable finish and has little to no UV protection. but that is just me.
@billquillin1952
@billquillin1952 7 жыл бұрын
Wood By Wright Thank you sir. Good point. I guess I'll go poly instead. Again, thank you for your videos, I learn something every time!
@cazper37
@cazper37 7 ай бұрын
Hi, so I brought a pot of pure flax oil up to 575 degrees F and never saw bubbles form or any physical change in the oil (whisps or fuzziness). It was over 400 for at least 30 minutes as well. I used two thermometers, does there need to be a noticeable change in the oil or should it be good to use at this point?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 ай бұрын
It is hard to see, but you should be good. Spread some on a board and see if it is dry to the touch in 20-30 hours.
@imortaldeadead
@imortaldeadead 7 жыл бұрын
Good video, Don't quote me on this please, As I understand by putting some glycerine in with the linseed you bring the break point down to 240°C/464°F. I believe this moves you a little farther away from the flash point.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
interesting. I have not heard that. I will have to look into it!
@stefanopassiglia
@stefanopassiglia 6 жыл бұрын
That's a varnish violine makers use.
@georgh.8961
@georgh.8961 7 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for the video. What if you put a lid on the pot. That could help to prevent the fire. (if you keep it there untill the oil has cooled down :) )
@georgh.8961
@georgh.8961 7 жыл бұрын
I have one more, do you filter the oil in any way after boiling and before use or even before boiling? Thanks
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
the air and oil will create a large pressure so you would need a lid that could hold that pressure. on top of that, there will still be some oxygen is I would not recommend it. the idea of oil above flash point under fire is enough to keep me up at night. LOL the oil I purchased was pre filtered. I do not filter it at all. if I am working with un filtered freshly pressed oil I will filter it before heating it.
@MrMNRichardWright
@MrMNRichardWright 4 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on Danish oil finishes?
@arianrhodnimue992
@arianrhodnimue992 2 жыл бұрын
Okay question. At what temperature does Flax oil Combust? And to be clear what temperature do we need to reach ?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 2 жыл бұрын
I wish I could give you exact temperatures but it depends on the oil you're working with. As there are a lot of other compounds in there the temperature can change depending upon how pure your oil is.
@wg1948
@wg1948 Жыл бұрын
Hi thanks for your time, can I use painter's linseed oil instead of making my own?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright Жыл бұрын
Sure. Some times it has been bleached and that means it will not polymerase quite as quicklyl. But it will work
@wg1948
@wg1948 Жыл бұрын
@@WoodByWright thanks a mil
@donaldfrederick6814
@donaldfrederick6814 Жыл бұрын
I just stumbled onto this video, sorry for the necro comment, but I found this really very interesting. Do you happen to know if this same process could be used for tung oil? I happen to have a rather large stash of raw tung oil
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright Жыл бұрын
yes it can. I do not know what it's ignition temperature is though. it can be done in the same manner though. I would have to do more research and testing to find the ignition temperature though. and I would stay 20 degrees or more below that.
@c.garcia2363
@c.garcia2363 6 жыл бұрын
I read somewhere that old fashioned (pre 1880's) methods for boiled linseed oil required 600 degrees Celsius in a vacuum container. I need some of that type for a hobby of mine. Will your friend sell any of his next time he makes more?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
they did not require the vacuum boiling that just made it safer. you end up with basically the same product whether vacuum boiled or open boiled vacuum boiled is just safer. my friend does not sell it he just makes it for his own use.
@c.garcia2363
@c.garcia2363 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. I noticed you heated yours up to reach a certain temperature. According to the formula I'm looking for, the oil needs to be kept at 600 C for 8 hours. How long did you it take for your concoction to reach 460 F? What I'm looking for is a naturally polymerized linseed oil....
@evanmaughan9413
@evanmaughan9413 4 жыл бұрын
Can you use boiled linseed oil on projects that will come into contact with food? (Ie mugs, bowls, spoons, cutting boards, etc.)
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
If you make it yourself or have someone else who traditionally boils it then yes as it's just linseed oil. however if you buy it from the store then no because it comes with other chemical dryers in it.
@8Jory
@8Jory 3 жыл бұрын
Any idea if this will work with other oils? Such as sunflower oil?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 3 жыл бұрын
Most natural oils will polymerize however not quite as quickly as Lindsey oil.
@DrShaggy
@DrShaggy 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time and all the effort to make this video. I have been looking for boiled linseed oil and unfortunately I can’t find it where I live. I will be trying this today (definitely safely in an open outdoor area). I wanted to ask if this boiled linseed oil can be used to make danish oil which as I understand is a blend of boiled linseed oil, polyurethane and mineral spirits? Thanks once again and cheers. New subscriber and fan! Edit: how long do you think the danish oil made with this boiled linseed oil will take to dry?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. That would make a great base for a Danish oil. Generally Danish oil is linseed oil plus something else. Most commonly a lacquer or polyurethane.
@DrShaggy
@DrShaggy 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the reply ❤️
@mikeh505
@mikeh505 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thank you. Quick question. What is the shelf life on this oil processed this way vs vacuum polymerized if I were to make some for my wooden cutting board and spoons. A company that makes this stuff (TT), says they don’t have a shelf life. I’m guessing they vacuum boil. Also, what “liability”? Is there that your friend won’t sell it?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
I have no idea what the actual shelf life is as most of the time I use up all of my oil in under a year but I would guess you're probably good to have it for a year or two without any problem.
@chadwickbikerboy09
@chadwickbikerboy09 5 жыл бұрын
Here’s a question, is it safe to use it on cutting boards and spoons!?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
@@chadwickbikerboy09 yup. of you male it yourself there is nothing in it but Linseed oil
@thomasgronek6469
@thomasgronek6469 Жыл бұрын
thanks for the video. QUESTION: When boiling under a vacuum, the boiling point is lowered depending on how much vacuum has been applied. What is the important aspect of the project? Reaching a certain temperature ? Or the actual boiling of the oil?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright Жыл бұрын
You don't actually boil the oil. It's just the term used for the process. The boiling point of the oil is way over the flashpoint. You heat it to the exact same temperatures as you would outside You just heat it a little bit farther. Because there's no oxygen in the environment then it can't combust. You just have to make sure you let it cool down before you break the vacuum. But you still have to heat it to the same temperature.
@thomasgronek6469
@thomasgronek6469 Жыл бұрын
@@WoodByWright Many thanks.
@tscotts9699
@tscotts9699 4 жыл бұрын
So sick
@holted1984
@holted1984 9 ай бұрын
Do you happen to know the ignition point temperature at all? Like how close is my 460f oil to igniting??!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 9 ай бұрын
it is around 620F but that can very a bit by how the oil was pressed and processed. Usually I say just keep it under 580f
@brunoCondor
@brunoCondor 4 жыл бұрын
Hi James..thanks for the video. IMPORTANT QUESTION.. if you talk temperature.. i assume you mean CELCIUS and not Fahrenheit ?? Thanks.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
No most of the time I refer to Fahrenheit unless I mention otherwise.
@TheOneAndOnlySame
@TheOneAndOnlySame 4 жыл бұрын
I'll try this. In a very small pot, with a very small quantity of oil , and with cover ready and a wet cotton towel , just in case. About vacuum boiled oil and it's higher polymerization: can non vacuum oil be boiled several times to reach the same level , or is it really temperature bound ?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like fun. From what I understand it's completely driven by the temperature you get it to I've never heard of anyone doing it through multiple steps.
@TheOneAndOnlySame
@TheOneAndOnlySame 4 жыл бұрын
@Wood By Wright ok. I've tried it 3 hours ago (your recipe, not the several consecutive boiled). Got the oil to 260°c (I've made a confusion in between 460f and 230c ) but nothing happened really, some smoke, no boiling, no "cotton like formations" .. and fortunately, no fire lol . I stumbled on a very nice video of a sir Frank Pallister who's apparently musical instrument maker and he says in the comment that some oils may have been refined by the manufactured and therefore will not process as expected. I don't know if it impacts the final result or not . Video in question is "boiling linseed oil to scorch a feather"
@janoschprogler8441
@janoschprogler8441 3 жыл бұрын
hi there :) but is it food-safe (as a cuttinboard finish)!? I might have missed the information - and on the www I did not find any answer, that would seem reliable.. And of course, I'm not talking about industrial BLO, I'm talking about "home made" BLO out of natural, food grade linseedoil.. I'm kinda confused. and BTW - nice video of course :)
@ethanbainbridge1333
@ethanbainbridge1333 4 жыл бұрын
Could you use this to make oil paint?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. Though it use to be more common to bleach it rather then boil it. I have a video on bleaching too if you want to see that.
@fahadaneeskhan
@fahadaneeskhan 3 жыл бұрын
I boiled my first bottle today, and I didn't know whether the temperature was Celsius or Fahrenheit, but it had started to smoke a lot and I had it around 260 C. When I switched to F, it was 480. Hope I didn't burn it.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. It was Fahrenheit. Kicking myself I forgot to mention that during the video. Lol
@fahadaneeskhan
@fahadaneeskhan 3 жыл бұрын
@@WoodByWright yeah I figured that when the oil got a bit fuzzy. So far I have applied 3 coats of BLO on a rosewood glass I turned and it is and absolutely beautiful dark slightly glossy finish. I have some questions. 1. How long till it cures, if it does (sorry, I am a beginner)? 2. I intend to use it for hot and cold beverages, so is BLO food safe once cured? 3. Would washing the glass with soap cause the finish to come off, and will I need to re-coat it? and 4. *tongue in cheek* will the smell go away? Thank you, much appreciated.
@permeus2nd
@permeus2nd 6 жыл бұрын
Ok so I paused the video at about 1:50 so sorry if you are about to answer this question, but couldn’t you use a pressure cooker to boil the oil? I’m thinking it should stop it from catching fire?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
you could but you have several problems. #1 you would have to make sure it cooled down big time before opening it. #2 you would little sperts of flames coming out the pressure relief #3 you would have to increase the heat as higher pressure has a higher boiling point. and #4 Boiling flaming pol in a pressure vessel is generally called a bomb. so it is not out of the realm of possibility, but I just do not want to be the person to try it.
@Bonejone213
@Bonejone213 4 жыл бұрын
Watched my first video ever of your channel today where you talked about how you don’t wana teach how to make this cause it’s too dangerous. Very next video: how to make BLO. LOLOLOLOLOL
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
LOL yup. I finally came around after much prodding.
@riskmandel1
@riskmandel1 6 жыл бұрын
out of curiosity, why do you remove the fat from the bleached oil like in your other video but not with the traditional boiled oil?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
that is what helps the bleached oil cure faster. if you wanted to you could then boil the bleached oil. but once it has been boiled the fat does not come out as easily.
@thewalnutwoodworker6136
@thewalnutwoodworker6136 Жыл бұрын
I like to put a pot of flax seed oil on a fire and wait till it starts sputtering fire, I put the lid on and wait another minute. I mess up the fire and let it cool and I am left with BLO that smells a bit like a fire. The fire consumes the oxygen and makes it harder for the oil to self ignite.
@ukguitaryogi2888
@ukguitaryogi2888 3 жыл бұрын
Question on finishing bench tenon shoulders that have slight gap. Should you finish them or just seal with hide glue will be enough protection from potential warping and so on ? On the end grain shoulders of the four width ways tenons should I finish it with 3 layers of BLO? or is it enough to just use hide glue coating when I glue and clamp the shoulders tight to the legs? the gap is slight also here and not completely flush to the body. Please advise many thanks
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 3 жыл бұрын
I think I am missing something sorry. Feel free to send me an email with pictures I would be glad to help. jameswright@woodbywright.com
@ukguitaryogi2888
@ukguitaryogi2888 3 жыл бұрын
@@WoodByWright Sorry my grammar was poor... I just mean to ask should you finish and seal the whole of the tenon particularly the end grain of the shoulders before gluing into the mortises? Thanks
@andrewfrudd108
@andrewfrudd108 3 жыл бұрын
Is a vacuum cooker the same as a pressure cooker or are they different things?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 3 жыл бұрын
They are very different things. Is the vacuum will remove the air from around the oil so there's no oxygen to combust the oil. That way you can raise the heat over the flashpoint. A pressure cooker has more oxygen and is basically just a bomb.
@rickyhung2114
@rickyhung2114 5 жыл бұрын
Hi James, I've follow your method to make BLO, but when I boiled it to around 440 F it smokes a lot then I stopped, is it ok for polymerization? Recently I use the BLO to do the finishing of my DIY guitar it looks beautiful. I put 9 coats and wet sand to 2000, I want to ask how long dose it take to dry fully? Thanks.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
I would have to watch it to see if it went foggy. But sounds like you are good. I never let BLO cure before I apply pastewax. It also depends on how thick you apply it. Most of the time it is dry to the touch in 24 hours.
@rickyhung2114
@rickyhung2114 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@brettshegogue
@brettshegogue 4 жыл бұрын
Might be a silly question, but do you need to worry about spontaneous combustion of rags with the homemade blo, or is that only with the store-bought with the added chemicals? I have some store bought and I'm almost frightened to use it for fear of rags catching fire!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
yes the same here though it is a little harder to get them to combustion it can happen in the right circumstances. I have a video showing it if you want to see. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g6qAf6mgvLTQhmw.html
@BK33REVIEWS
@BK33REVIEWS 5 жыл бұрын
What would the difference in the finish of boiled or unboiled
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
there really is not a difforence other then boiled will dry in 24 hours. raw oil can take weeks or months.
@sleepinggiant882
@sleepinggiant882 4 жыл бұрын
Where did your friend get their vacuum boiler?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
he made it himself. it is a pot that you create a vacuum on and seal it. Then heat the pot.
@billquillin1952
@billquillin1952 6 жыл бұрын
May I suggest that boiling it in a nitrogen environment would be an acceptable alternative to a vacume boiler.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
true but that would be more difficult as it would be a pressure vessel it would have to heat in. it would be fun to try though!
@omarluatia736
@omarluatia736 4 жыл бұрын
Can the homemade stuff still catch fire? That’s the one thing that makes me a little cautious of linseed oil
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. I have a video showing it catch on fire. To be honest it takes every specific circumstances. So as long as you follow a few steps it's very safe to use.
@soumitrachatterjee1572
@soumitrachatterjee1572 5 жыл бұрын
I boiled the oil in same way after agitating with water, then letting it seperate. Colour of the oil got more dark.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
No I am confused. Did you boil it or did you bleach it in the sun? And are you sure it was pure raw linseed oil?
@billrutledge2441
@billrutledge2441 7 жыл бұрын
Looks like you got a brand new shop apron. Still has the crease in it. What is the brand? I thought you were thinking about making a "vest"
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
here is the apron. amzn.to/2ueinsQ I like the waxed canvas and hardware of this one.
@lalayrayuh1299
@lalayrayuh1299 3 жыл бұрын
Can acrylic gesso be applied on wood with boiled linseed oil?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 3 жыл бұрын
Sure. Just wait tell the BLO cures.
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