HOW TO MAKE CHEAP, JUNKYARD BBC HP! NA VS VORTECH SUPERCHARGED GEN 6 454. INTERCOOLER & HEAD TEST

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Жыл бұрын

CAN A CHEAP, JUNKYARD 454 MAKE GOOD POWER? HOW MUCH POWER WILL A VORTECH SUPERCHARGER ADD? CAN I RUN BOOST ON A STOCK JUNKYARD MOTOR? HOW MUCH BOOST CAN I RUN? HOW MUCH POWER ARE ALUMINUM HEADS WORTH? ARE THE VORTEC GEN 6 BBC HEADS ANY GOOD? HOW MUCH POWER CAN A VORTECH YSI SUPERCHARGER MAKE? SHOUDL I RUN AN INTERCOOLER ON A BLOW-THROUGH CARB APPLICATION? CHECK OUT THIS VIDEO ON HOW TO UPGRADE YOU JUNKYARD 454 WITH A CAM, VORTECH SUPERCHARGER, AN INTERCOOLER AND BRODIX ALUMINUM HEADS. CHECK OUT ALL THE POWER GAINS AND CHANGES IN THE BOOST CURVES!

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@bluecollarhotrods9781 Жыл бұрын

Smashed the like button, now watching. 👍 Big block + boost? I'm in!

@GIGABACHI Жыл бұрын

Can't go wrong with a Big Block Chevy or any other BB from the other guys for that matter. Weight be damned. 🤘😎🤘

@vicmccartin Жыл бұрын

I like my blocks like I like my women, THICK

@jamesd2863 Жыл бұрын

I understand not wanting to tear the head down to do springs but if you cut the valve guides down you can fit a dual spring easy. I did that on a stock head and had no problem with some crane 99896 springs and 99970 retainers with crower 0.050 taller keepers. Had to notch the piston a bit for the cam which was .576/.598 285/292 110 lsa.

@brracing7861 Жыл бұрын

They are Awesome Engines a 454 Gen 6 BBC.

@johnnyturbo8460 5 ай бұрын

Wow, typically, how long do you think that engine would last? Assuming it was a well maintained block Impressive video

@mikebrown8580 Жыл бұрын

I could watch Richard talk about this combo in more depth for hours . Everything from tuning to parts install

@UPNORTHWOODS Жыл бұрын

You made my day! Thanks....keep up the fun meter output😎

@thetruthspeaker1978 Жыл бұрын

Not first but hey, I'm still watching 💯 Free the squirrels

@daltonbough3302 Жыл бұрын

Old school big blocks ftw

@pimpnick4920 6 ай бұрын

You do God's work. I have a 97 that's going to get a turbo in my 85 1 ton. The crack free interior will fund a good bit of the project

@brracing7861 Жыл бұрын

Amazing how strong Hyperuentic pistons are with a good tune. Chose Custom Diamonds 2618 Forged spared no expense for my old Race Car 70 TA RAIV 4-SPEED.

@deanstevenson6527 Жыл бұрын

Nice work, Richard 🥝✔️

@brianlafollette7530 Жыл бұрын

Good times! Great tests!

@BigUnk85 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Richard 😊 i was contemplating doing something like this to see what kind of power i could get

@orr89rocz Жыл бұрын

Probably be a good candidate for comps conical springs

@karlsracing8422 Жыл бұрын

How can anyone choose an Ls over a big block of any brand? They're amazing to look at and make power everywhere!

@blakestewart6644 Жыл бұрын

First!!!! Yay big block content!!!

@craigcontofalsky4387 Жыл бұрын

Sweet! I liked it! Keep the videos coming for us techies.

@kattywampass Жыл бұрын

You had me at bbc............oh and boost.

@vicmccartin Жыл бұрын

I'm not gay but I mean if you give me a boosted big block 😂

@kattywampass Жыл бұрын

@@vicmccartin amen brother 🤣

@johncraft05 Жыл бұрын

Did you add ring gap to this combination

@antonjimmy5636 Жыл бұрын

I have seen quite a few methanol applications use an extra injector before the throttlebody for intercooling

@cletiskroeker3552 Жыл бұрын

Loves me some big block!!

@PatientXero607 Жыл бұрын

I'm surprised those Tonawanda 454's from that era could make that much power. I knew people who threw them out for ZZ 502's. Quite impressive.

@Prestiged_peck Жыл бұрын

Inches are inches, if you don't have a 10ft intake runner and 30ft exhaust on them they tend to open up pretty readily

@ronkirkham3410 Жыл бұрын

I'm looking to see honestly what's available with different companies I know raylar is very good with these motors and I'm not afraid of the price money isn't the issue it's just I'm looking to other companies to make the same or more power-efficient Lee and reliably

@thomasward4505 Жыл бұрын

What power level does the reliability suffer on this engine?

@totensiebush Жыл бұрын

re:charge cooling and methanol, I'd love to see a dyno test of how much it helps. I assume it's uncommon due to weight, but it'd be killer to see a real test.

@jadenbertoni8014 Жыл бұрын

Can we see a supercharger and heads on the 8.1?

@brandonrohrer7914 Жыл бұрын

Good video just missed ring gap in my opinion

@michaelwilliams6922 Жыл бұрын

Hey Richard can you make a video of a bonestock gen 6 454 with a blower

@mightymikethebear Жыл бұрын

Big blocks are cool no matter what OEM badge is on them. Are you planning to install this bad boy in a vehicle soon?

@Bearandsonsgunworks Жыл бұрын

Richard try getting your hands on a AMC engine for the other guys.

@hollowell427 Жыл бұрын

BIG BLOCK FTW....

@erikrunas226 Жыл бұрын

Hypothetically speaking...would the peak boost still drop as much as it did with the Brodix heads if they were 102cc vs 120cc? My thought is there would be 18cc less pressurized air leaving the intake manifold every time the intake valve opened therefore keeping peak boost pressure slightly higher. What say you sir?

@Marc_Wolfe Жыл бұрын

Nissan VK56VD. Just going to throw that request out there.

@jpgasper Жыл бұрын

I ran the same valve train set up on my engine but used the crower +.050 keepers and that provided plenty of clearance for the rocker.

@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын

we tried +.050 but the rockers contact the keepers and not valve tip

@jpgasper Жыл бұрын

@@richardholdener1727 were they the crower jumbo keepers? Im having trouble finding the part number that I used but they were recessed for like a lash cap and I had plenty of clearance on the rocker.

@jpgasper Жыл бұрын

@@richardholdener1727 I found it. crower 86111x1-16

@pmd7771969 Жыл бұрын

At the cost of some nitrous kits the chinese turbo option seems better. Some kits are 2000 d.

@ronkirkham3410 Жыл бұрын

You are absolutely amazing at what you do! There is no question there.. is there any way that you could please touch base we somehow as I'm working on my 05 GMC 496 8.1. right now it's just a Raylar cam and very mild inaccurate tune

@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын

ask away or join the live feed

@daviddenman7479 Жыл бұрын

I wonder if the vortech supercharger would bolt onto my 8.1…… 🤔

@MainStreetMuscle Жыл бұрын

I'd be very interested in the scienced out valve train once done. Looking at your notes, would using a non stock rocker help the keeper interference that you were running into? Thank you for the info!

@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын

we ran a non stock rocker-it need a different combo of retainer and springs

@jjfig6166 Жыл бұрын

Safe to assume you opened up the ring gap for boost? I know you did some tests running the stock intake with the holley ECU. Any plans to try the same test with the stock intake and boost? I know there used to be supercharger kits for these trucks but they haven't made a comeback yet..

@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын

it just make less hp and a bit more low speed torque than dual plane and carb

@randallmason9687 Жыл бұрын

Will the gen 6 heads bolt on a older big block? Higher compression without the dome piston.

@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын

YES

@watsisbuttndo829 Жыл бұрын

Have we had junkyard big block with Junkyard powerstroke Turbo on stock headers yet?. Interested what sort of mumbo a seriously poverty spec setup could churn out.

@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын

a stock gen 6 makes 370 hp, so with two junkyard turbos, it could make 740 at 14.7 psi

@pmd7771969 Жыл бұрын

An intercooler on a turbo charger will cause boost lag. If you can't run e85 then don't use one.

@thomasward4505 Жыл бұрын

And when you say cheap we need to know the approximate prices of your modifications

@joethepirate1 Жыл бұрын

Would you get any worthwhile power gains by putting an intercooler on a naturally aspirated engine?

@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын

they are restrictions on na applications and na applications already have ambient air

@pmd7771969 Жыл бұрын

You can make about 1700 hp on pump gas with an f1. Many people don't know this. Bloodviking

@christophershafer5615 Жыл бұрын

Would a big block with a flat plane crank and short stroke increase the rpm redline or would that not change if your mass stays the same?

@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын

FLAT PLANE DOES NOT DETERMINE MAX RPM (OR EVEN EFFECTIVE RPM) POTENTIAL

@vicmccartin Жыл бұрын

@@richardholdener1727 just cool sounds

@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын

they really do

@sstevocamaro Жыл бұрын

BIG BLOCK YO!! 🤘

@biggpoppaz28 Жыл бұрын

Would it be worth O-ringing a stock big block chevy to throw more boost at it or is that just wasted money

@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын

for what power level?

@biggpoppaz28 Жыл бұрын

@richardholdener1727 1400-1500 area. The 496 in my car now put 950 to the wheels on 10lbs boost. Just wasn't sure how much a stock block would take

@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын

stock block is not going to be a long-term thing at 1500 hp

@lancoshotrodgarage2858 Жыл бұрын

What version of Brodix heads were they?

@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын

race rite

@xravenhairsexgod Жыл бұрын

First

@lifeonadime4703 Жыл бұрын

I'd love a BBC if my ride wouldn't get a block to a gallon lol. But still....allll that torque 🤤

@brracing7861 Жыл бұрын

The 454 Gen 6 engines must use a Factory Hyperuentic piston made by Wiesco or some other company Richard Holdener. The original 1997 Chevy Vortech 454 I have yet from my Chevy C2500, rebuildable yet. Used a 1999 454 I built it up last summer with a Scat Pro Stock Cast steel crank they rate to 800 Hp. Other than a Moroso 80 psi oil pump she is stock yet in my Chevy 454 Gen 6 pickup.

@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын

WE HAVE RUN 4-DIGIT POWER LEVELS WITH STOCK STUFF AND RING GAP

@brracing7861 Жыл бұрын

@@richardholdener1727 Mind boggling to me yet, from 1990s into early 2000s guys local competing in the Worlds Fastest Street Drag Car Shootouts from old Car Craft and Hotrod National Events. Tuning has come a long ways. Only needed 1400 Hp to Win most, 2000 Hp Top Dog of the World.

@brracing7861 Жыл бұрын

@@richardholdener1727 A Big Block Chevy has What I call Optimal Main bearings sizes to send it, 2000-5000 Hp +. Also a Super Strong Crankshaft Thrust bearing. Only a Pontiac V8 455 has a stronger crank thrust bearing.

@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын

stronger thrust bearing? is that a thing?

@brracing7861 Жыл бұрын

@@richardholdener1727 Why Yes Richard. Larger the Main Bearings Journals the Larger the Crankshaft Thrust Bearing Is physical in size or actually circumference and in square inches. More surface area is present to hold the Hydrodynamic oil film. High loads are displaced over a larger area and peak psi square inches goes down of course. Ever been into an 11 liter to 28 liter Semi Truck Diesel Engine to overhaul ? I have several times. Huge compared to Auto, race cars, and Light pickups.

@pmd7771969 Жыл бұрын

I mean f3

@reloadingfun Жыл бұрын

That made almost the same power as the gen 6 wrecking yard motor you did with a 224 at .050 cam. Any ideas why?

@bri-manhunter2654 Жыл бұрын

Compression, head flow, & boost difference.

@reloadingfun Жыл бұрын

@Bri-man Hunter the two im talking about are both stock gen 6 engines. Same heads, no boost.

@bri-manhunter2654 Жыл бұрын

@@reloadingfun. Something is different, all things being equal, the bigger cam will make more power. You must be missing g something.

@reloadingfun Жыл бұрын

@@bri-manhunter2654 yep, im sure something is different.

@bri-manhunter2654 Жыл бұрын

@@reloadingfun. Yea, which video was it? I’ll look for it.

@demetriusrayden-erisjohnso2279 Жыл бұрын

How about a rotary boost series?....

@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын

LOVE TO

@demetriusrayden-erisjohnso2279 Жыл бұрын

I think most engine tuners are incorrect when they say that the renesis motor has less potential I think it's actually better than the original design... 🤔... Or has the potential to be... Nobody's sequentially turbo charges them like the originals were.... With those high RPMs I see higher potential total output... A 1.3 with 600 wheel horsepower would be a hellcat 1 inch punch from hell... That would be a hell of a H Bomb 😏 no pun intended.... I'm considering an inter chilled twincharger setup.... Haven't seen that setup yet on a rotary.

@dakotatelles3483 Жыл бұрын

Are the gen6 bbc have forged internals Pistons rods and crank

@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын

@dakotatelles3483 Жыл бұрын

How much hp and rpm can a shock internals take

@thomashalley7258 Жыл бұрын

I wonder how much/if a intercooler would help with a N/A engine.

@vicmccartin Жыл бұрын

Not really , with boost every 10 degree drop is 1% more power gained threw intercooling, the only thing that can make a difference in temp and power would be e85 or straight methanol

@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын

THE INTERCOOLER IS ALMOST ALWAYS A RESTRICTION TO AN NA MOTOR

@vicmccartin Жыл бұрын

@@richardholdener1727 confirmed im not retarded

@vicmccartin Жыл бұрын

@@richardholdener1727 350 Olds diesel engine ??? The ultimate other guy

@Lagrange1186 Жыл бұрын

Did the timing stay the same for all three test?

@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын

except the brodix head-big chamber wanted more timing (na and boosted)

@Lagrange1186 Жыл бұрын

@@richardholdener1727 awesome! thank you sir.

@chukscorsese648 10 ай бұрын

Anyone have a good deal on a supercharger I can throw on a Gen 6 454?

@Young_Blueberry_ 6 ай бұрын

Have you seen anyone run a torqstorm on a gen 6 454 with efi

@richardholdener1727 5 ай бұрын

yes-same results

@Justls1v8parts Жыл бұрын

Hi Richard do you have email address ill send btr long runner manifold info. Thank-you Aaron

@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын

I have the info unless you tested it

@stevenbland2736 11 ай бұрын

I enjoy watching your videos but why do you almost... always build a junkyard engine and put a high duration camshaft???? No one can run a 454 on the street at 6500-7000 rpms. You change all this stuff but never the camshaft.

@richardholdener1727 11 ай бұрын

the vast majority (90%) of gen 6 454 videos feature a 274 street cam (224 degrees)-makes peak power at 5400 rpm. There isn't room with stock p-v to put a cam that makes power at 7000 rpm, so not sure what you are referencing.

@stevenbland2736 11 ай бұрын

@@richardholdener1727 Thanks for the reply... have you guys' tested COMP Cams 11-238-3 Xtreme Energy. 1,300-5,600 RPM Operating Range 218/224 Duration at .050". 110 Degree Lobe Separation Angle .504"/.510" Valve Lift If so please direct me to that video, that's the cam I am running in a gen 4 BBC.

@chrispreston5100 Жыл бұрын

So they're junk unless you spend $2500 on a set of aluminum heads. Got it.

@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын

yes-850 hp worth of junk

@chrispreston5100 Жыл бұрын

@@richardholdener1727 I have one but it makes me mad that you have to spend good coin to keep up with a 300,000 mile 5.3l with an ebay turbo kit. At least the bottom end is stout. Ish.