That'd be a fun way to make 'good' dragons take on an antagonistic role. Not because they're evil, but because they're anthropophobic and the human stingers (greatswords) are really painful!

Nice

Yup. This might be a thing in my world now 😂😂😂 amazing idea

Awesome Idea

And just like spiders, they see humans as somewhat useful because they kill even more verminous races that want to crawl all over their lair.

George Saggeth sounds nice

*rogue * is a class, rouge is a color.

did you remember the comic's name?

it's always great when players think they can fight what is essentially set dressing and world building at 3rd level, just great, especially when they complain afterwards about how unfair of a fight it was when giants crushed them like watermelons, it just warms my heart, even more so when it was clearly stated in session zero that the world is alive and you don't balance encounters to the players. just fun.

Mike Justice of she doesn't that dragon needs to be super mad at the betrayal. I see consequences....for the theft at the very least but also for the betrayal of not keeping the deal after a bit of in game time.

I never thought I'd feel bad for an imaginary dragon! :D

Thomas Henderson, absolutely. I'm kind of hoping she forgets for a long while, so the dragon will be adult the next time they meet.

Thomas Henderson, tbh, I'm kinda hoping she actually tries to get a wing crafted..... If she thought up the details outside of the game, I'd make her and the dragon become allies.

So.. it's toothless from how to train your dragon..?

AlluMan96 I think you get it. A good quest would be for a black dragon to set up a conflict getting you to kill off the other major threats so can gain control. Your party may not even be the first to die fighting his enemies.

The story in which I conceptualized these colour-stereotypes was during a time I wrote a small campaign hook involving a treasure-hunt for the Orbs of Dragonkind. The idea is that you've been contracted to collect fragments of these orbs, first without being told what they are quite yet, by a mysterious benefactor and most of the Dragons have a reason to want them as well. The Blue and Black Dragons want to dominate it's fellow brethren, seeing the destruction of them as a "Waste of potentially useful assets", The Red and Green Dragons simply want it so that nobody can use it on them and there are many outside sources that want the orbs as well of course, like a Beholder that wants to strongarm the dragons into leaving "him and his clients" alone as well as getting the Dragons into admitting his surperiority to them or the archmage, whom wants to settle a cold war on the verge of to heating up by way of Draconic deterrence.

Go into metallics

@@jglopez5855 Well, alot of how you want to use metallics will depend on whether you wanna keep the "good and bad" dynamic between them and the chromatics. I tend to go with that flavour and will be using that as the basis of breaking down my metallics. It keeps things simple and fun, my games are hardly ever this grander look into the ethics of right and wrong and more lean on the adventure of heroes that fight the villain, allowing the players to slant which side of the moral circle we end up in. I'll briefly touch on some basic ideas of how to do a more villainous metallic dragon. *Golden Dragons - Fathers of their People* Despite being ostensibly "The good guys", I do think that the metallics share one trait with their chromatic bretheren; Pride. Despite being altruistic, friendly and dependable allies, I do think they still hold a level of superiority over other races. Golden Dragons reflect this in being very authoritarian and possessive of the people they have grown an attachment to. They tend to establish communities surrounding them, rallying people around it with promises of protection and centuries of wisdom to share. However, they can be very stubborn about their rule and have a strict way of enforcing their way, simply because they believe themselves to "know better". Think about an over-protective parent, refusing to listen to their children, because they're just "not old enough to be making decisions like this". *Evil Golden Dragon - The God of their People* Gold is the color of vanity and they relish in it. Imagine the worst qualities of Golden Dragons taken to the extreme, as their people are forced to worship these dragons as literal gods among them. Something of an in-between of the Red and Green dragon. *Silver Dragons - From Socialite To Hobo* Of all the dragons in D&D, I always hear of Silver Dragons donning human guises and mingling among other races. This is what I decided to lean on. Driven by sheer curiosity, these dragons like to lead many lives, befriending people from all walks of life, integrating themselves within multiple societies. Some simply relish in a bit of fun and frollock in these guises, some might have aims to manipulate communities towards decisions they see as benefitial for the good of all. Yet, curiosity is all there's to it for these creatures. They don't quite see eye to eye with the races they mingle with. They see them as cute, funny, interesting and entertaining more than humans with feelings. *Evil Silver Dragon - Sweet Suffering* Taking a heavy slant on the hedonistic angle, these are dragons that take people to extreme heights only to knock them off. They relish in creating anarchy and discord. Sowing shades of doubt and paranoia within a political system or just toying with the feelings of individuals, they rejoice in the misery their involvement with people reaps. *Bronze Dragons - The Greater Good* A more stoic, militant kind of dragon that is very matter of fact. It sees the preservation of order and helping the weak as very important, but they only see it from a broader angle. They don't quite see the value in each individual life, looking at it more as the good of an entire species or community. They form militaries and lend their assistance to whom they deem worthy of their services, though their tactics can often devolve to "victory by whatever means necessary". *Evil Bronze Dragons - Forgers of War* These dragons are almost like Gold Dragons in how they find communities of people to look after. However, they don't step at a single community. They covet all living things, conquering region after region to place under them. An extreme of the Blue Dragon. *Brass Dragons - Gods of the Arts* Fans of culture and art, Brass Dragons indulge themselves in imagination and history of all races. Of all the dragons, they are perhaps one of the most on-level with the people they interact with, acknowledging the beauty of all races and the art they create, valuing an individual by their own merits rather than some inherent superiority. That said, their pride shines in their ambition to become the best. They indulge in the arts and through their awesome might try to use their inspiration to create something of a scale more massive than ever. They don't see themselves as the best by default, but seek to earn their right to say that. *Evil Brass Dragons - Tragedy of Man* To an evil Brass Dragon, the world is their theatre and they are it's needy spectator. Imagine the kind of mass-scale manipulation and plotting that a Black Dragon finds itself involved with. However, whereas a Black Dragon is very practical in it's approach, a Brass Dragon weaves these plots for no other reason than it's own entertainment as he watches the mayhem and chaos unfold. *Mercury Dragon - Born to Isolation* Their bodies literally toxic to most things, I think Mercury Dragons are the most tragic of the dragons and the ones that are least attached to the pride of dragons. They yearn for a kindred connection with people, yet their poisonous presence keeps them far away. Ironically enough, many mercurial dragons seek a path of healing, learning the many ways in which they can help humanity in spite of their nature. They wish to protect life and dream of the day they may find a way to properly coexist with humanity. *Evil Mercury Dragons - The Blight of Silver* A force of nature more dangerous than any White Dragon, a Mercury Dragon turned bad is one that is consumed by the thought of what it is. Bittered by it's horrific nature and embracing that, it seeks to spread blight and death to wherever it treads. They may see themselves as gods of death or they may be simply trying to gain the attention of a group of heroes powerful enough to finally end it's sad existence. *Platinum Dragons - Bahamut* Yeah, the way I use dragons, there is only one Platinum Dragon. Bahamut, the father of dragons, loving husband of Tiamat. I like to think of the dynamic between metallics and chromatics as a familial dispute more than anything. Bahamut valued the other races, while Tiamat saw them as only worth subjegating. While Bahamut sided with humanity and made Tiamat his enemy, he still clings on to this hope that things can go back to normal again. Tiamat is allowed to live on, because Bahamut refuses to let anyone kill her, as he just kinda wants to make up and come to some kind of ceasefire. Think of like the divorced father that still acts really friendly with his ex and kinda wants to get back together. These are the ones I use, anyway. I've never found myself in dire need of using Copper, Iron or Steel Dragons.

Foster Davies-Smith cool

The Beck that actually sounds pretty awesome. Well done on your lore, my fellow homebrew DM

Remington Wright Thank you! :)

homebrew is the best kind of roleplay

Charmle H Totally agree.

But what happened with the First Dragon War?

Have somebody else get richer than them by trading in foreign lands and spinning wonderful tales of the culture. Preferably somebody they didn't like at low level, who is now outshining them because they expanded their horizons while the party didn't. Players haaaaaaaate people getting richer than them with less danger.

1217 BC Thats just such a catchy name, lol.

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In the old old lore, green dragons did one thing very well: Scheme. A dragon with a target to scheme against is a very dangerous thing,

Imagine a brass dragon clan partying and stories for days

Jakub Janicki ohhh i get it! Trump is a dragon!

...No, he means Dunkelzahn

OMG TRUMP IS A DRAGON MA!!!

Nothing in Shadowrun has killed me more spectacularly than dragons. My dice seemed to really like dragons.

I wouldn't know, I'm a GM. And my players never got to actually fight a dragon - I mean they tried, but didn't make it as far as actually seeing the beast. Hell, for most of the campaign they were working for it and didn't know it.

Well you've got cooperative/collaborative storytelling, a great imaginary game of "what if's" with a few rules to sort out any disagreements, or even "try to think of a computer game without the computer".

THIS!!!! I'm in this very situation....

But what about drakes, wyverns, wyrms, and kobolds? *WHAT. ABOUT. DRAGONS?!*

And they are both great xD

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Matteus Silvestre I admit I've asked myself a few times if Guy and Shad were one in the same.

Plot twist: This is Shad's second channel.