How to Make Oak Wood Pellet Substrate for Growing Mushrooms

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In this video i demonstrate how to make a 4.5 pound substrate block for growing most wood loving mushrooms.
With the addition of wheat bran comes the increased chances of contamination, that is why we sterilize the substrate.
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@elizabethr2908 6 ай бұрын

Short , sweet and informative, perfect! ❤

@SporenSprout 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! 🙏 🍄

@coffeyscreations4342 3 жыл бұрын

great video definitely buying some!!!

@Jonsurfsup Жыл бұрын

Awesome and thank you

@robertmcdowell9649 4 ай бұрын

Will do this, nice. Probably use 1/3 of that bran though to reduce my contamination chance since I'm a beginner.

@potatocat6342 Ай бұрын

is it possible to use this method with jars instead of grow bags? Or would they shatter in the pressure cooker?

@jakeofalltrades98 6 ай бұрын

I just ordered your oyster mushroom liquid culture 4 pack on amazon. Just realized as I'm watching this video it's spore n sprout, the same business I just ordered from!!! Whoa

@SporenSprout 6 ай бұрын

😂 That’s awesome! Thanks for the business and good luck! 🍄

@RipperYouTubeOfficial Ай бұрын

Wow, you put a full pint of spawn in the substrate? Does this give you bigger fruitings?

@SporenSprout Ай бұрын

Yes and it’s faster

@joethecounselor 10 ай бұрын

Great instruction for setting up grow bags with hardwood pellets! I wonder, why not start with the grow bag? Just put everything straight in the bag to start. From there, follow the OP instructions. It seems it would save cleanup and material.

@SporenSprout 10 ай бұрын

It’s hard to mix in the bag and if the substrate is not mixed thoroughly it will fail. That’s why I use a bucket to mix before adding to bags.

@suneettalukdars7256 3 жыл бұрын

I have watch lots of videos & also read some articles where it is always mentioned that we always prepared the substrate at per its field capacity. For your substrate field capacity was adjusted only with the hwfp or the combined mixture of hwfp + bran ?

@SporenSprout 3 жыл бұрын

This is a well know recipe that achieves the correct field capacity. Everything combined achieves field capacity.

@junomartinez8443 2 жыл бұрын

Congratulations on your videos. How much time passes from when you do the inoculation until you start fruiting

@SporenSprout 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! 2 weeks to colonize grain spawn and 2 weeks to colonize substrate so about 1 month.

@shamayimshoresh7503 2 ай бұрын

What are your yields like using that mixture? Lets use lions mane and oyster for example.

@greatwhitecoyote 6 ай бұрын

Whats the size of bag you're using ?

@montygore1200 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the videos. Which brand of fuel pellets do you use. I bought some here from a big box store and they dont work well at all. whose do you use? Thanks

@SporenSprout Жыл бұрын

Make sure it’s hardwood and mostly Oak. Most people get the bags from tractor supply. The brand I use is a Michigan brand.

@montygore1200 Жыл бұрын

Thank you brother. I will be buying LC from you as soon as I need it.

@Taintsmear 3 жыл бұрын

is this ok for say APE then cast with the same layer after it colonizes? not Shure i want to use a manure sub for my first try other than coco for a sub.

@SporenSprout 3 жыл бұрын

They will grow on wood but will not be as potent as if grown on poo

@ilikefishing7858 8 ай бұрын

what is the flow hood you're using? interesting content 👌👍🏼🇬🇧

@SporenSprout 8 ай бұрын

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@dan7163 9 ай бұрын

This is great for wood loving mushrooms. I use it myself. I also grow cubensis (magic) mushrooms and they are a poop loving mushrooms. You don't need poop but they don't like wood. Please research the substrate for the particular mushroom species your growing. And keep it simple until you have Lots of experience.

@SporenSprout 9 ай бұрын

Here’s a poo-less substrate you can use for cubes: How to Make Coco Coir Substrate for Growing Mushrooms kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nc15fM-Uyt7Xj2w.html

@theresasteinbacher 2 күн бұрын

So, I just followed your instructions and combined my grain spawn into my oak pellet grow bag. I have it in a still air box. I am growing Lion's Mane mushrooms. Should this be in the light or dark and do I continue to seal the bag or have slits in the bag when the mushrooms start growing? TY

@SporenSprout 2 күн бұрын

@@theresasteinbacher Once the substrate bag is fully colonized by the spawn you slice the side of the bag and set the fruiting block in a humid environment like a shot gun fruiting chamber or bigger fruiting tent, light does not matter during colonization. Here is the video to make a shotgun fruiting chamber: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mLJyaL2Svq-Xg5s.html Bigger tent: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sJmmgNhemdixgGw.html Medium tent: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jq9mgLWm09m6nJc.html

@theresasteinbacher 2 күн бұрын

You’re awesome. Thank you for your expertise! 🙏🌞

@manucortina1600 3 жыл бұрын

Great video, leant a lot. Is there a way to make your own bag?

@dongo6988 Жыл бұрын

You can buy the plain bags pretty cheap and put your own filter, but tbh it’s probably better to just buy the bags premade, they’re only like $0.50 and it saves a lot of time. The ones with injection ports cost bout a dollar more so imo it’s better to just use mason jars for inoculation and make your own lids

@ryze9563 3 ай бұрын

First time doing this, I did everything as said in the video. My spawn isn’t ready so I ended up sealing the bag afterwards and it seems like there’s too much moisture, there isn’t any standing water at all but a lot of moisture. Should I be worried or will it dry up after a few hours or days? Should I keep the bag unfolded so it can breath or keep it tucked?

@SporenSprout 3 ай бұрын

Yeah just let it sit unfolded for 1 week. It sounds like you didn’t use hot water when adding to the oak pellets, if you added cold water it won’t soak well or you used a little bit too much water or your pellets were not fully pelletized. There shouldn’t be any oak dust in the measurements. I still use this same recipe tutorial and never have moisture problems.

@ryze9563 3 ай бұрын

@@SporenSprout Thank you so much! I’ll try that out 🙏🏼

@Mercymary1 Жыл бұрын

Do you think hardwood coffee grounds and gypsum would be a good mix for hardwood loving mushrooms? I'm aiming just to pasteurize my substrate in one bag

@vitamin9165 5 ай бұрын

YES

@rjennings0142 3 жыл бұрын

How come you used the whole jar? Do you have to use the grain to initiate growth in the substrate?

@SporenSprout 3 жыл бұрын

You don’t have to use the whole jar, I just do that so it colonizes faster. Yes the mycelium will grow off of the grain and into the substrate.

@rjennings0142 3 жыл бұрын

@@SporenSprout Sweet, appreciate the feedback! Also keep pumping out the videos, good work!

@lanhan8064 Жыл бұрын

Can we seal the bag prior sterilization if it has injection port? Thanks.

@SporenSprout Жыл бұрын

If you don’t allow the bags to vent they can expand and pop inside the pressure cooker. You could try sealing the bag and then cut the corner and apply some micropore tape to the corner to help with venting while keeping the bag mostly sealed.

@lanhan8064 Жыл бұрын

@@SporenSprout I actually did it and it did not explode. Maybe because it has the vent membrane to allow air passing through

@donaldwygal2248 2 жыл бұрын

How long will substrate stop before inoculating? Thanks again

@SporenSprout 2 жыл бұрын

Usually 1-2 weeks before it starts to dry out. You can refrigerate them. After months the substrate may become contaminated if not used. It’s kind of a race against the eventual contamination.

@ranjanty 2 жыл бұрын

Can I use shavings from a oak or other hardwood tree instead of those fuel pellets?

@SporenSprout 2 жыл бұрын

Yes you can. Will have to make sure the moisture content is correct.

@ranjanty 2 жыл бұрын

@@SporenSprout Thanks and appreciate your video content.

@ultracheese4209 Жыл бұрын

Are there any alternative methods to pressure cooking?

@SporenSprout Жыл бұрын

You can build or buy a steam sterilizer barrel. You steam sterilize for 12-14 hours instead of pressure sterilize for 2 hours.

@thedadchronicles 6 ай бұрын

What about hydrated lime?

@christianlander321 2 жыл бұрын

Great video as always! How long will CVG stay good for if not used right away. Thanks

@ryansmith616 Жыл бұрын

This isn't CVG.

@christianlander321 Жыл бұрын

@@ryansmith616 my bad man I'm having a hard time with contam right now and I'm pretty sure it's time to start sterilizing my substrate from now on

@ryansmith616 Жыл бұрын

@@christianlander321 Try putting your CVG mixture into sealed plastic bags like those in the video, and pressure cook them. Wait to cool, then inoculate with liquid culture as sterile as you can.

@christianlander321 Жыл бұрын

@@ryansmith616 innoculate with no grain? Just LC straight to CVG?

@micaro84 2 жыл бұрын

Would an instant pot work instead of a pressure cooker? I just want to grow once in a while, I don’t mind having limited space in ip.

@SporenSprout 2 жыл бұрын

I don’t think instant pots get up to 15 psi so if you do use it, you might have to do 3 hours.

@HavokBWR Жыл бұрын

@@SporenSprout I'm about to try this why my instant pot, probably going to run it for two 4 hour cycles since people do like 12-15 hours with atmospheric pressure steamers.

@ryansmith616 Жыл бұрын

Instant Pots are fine for sterilization.

@LuckyLimey Жыл бұрын

Am finding your videos very helpful. Im interested in using a hardwood substrate that that is 50% oak pellets and 50% soy hulls. The substrate is called Masters Mix and seems quite popular. Do you have any insights on this mix and do you know the amounts of water for these ratios - say, 4 pound of dry mix (2lbs oak pellet + 2lbs soy hulls) - how much water to add?

@SporenSprout Жыл бұрын

Masters mix is good for most everything but it did not work for shiitake. Make sure you use soy hull pellets and not powdery or the ratio will be way off. I am not sure about the conversion of weight but it should be 60% water.

@ScottWConvid19 Жыл бұрын

@@SporenSprout 60% volume or weight?

@danielalt7508 Жыл бұрын

@@ScottWConvid19 weight

@petoors0074 Жыл бұрын

I found two very decent mixtures to be 1) 450g soy hulls, 450g fuel pellets, 1.4L water. Sterilize for 90 minutes = 1lb soy hulls, 1lb fuel pellets, roughly 1.5 quarts water. 2) Layman's method: 1.5 pounds fuel pellets + 1 tsp gypsum. Put it in a growing bag and pour in 1 quart of boiling water. Quickly fold the gusset, peg it and chuck the bag in a bucket for 3 hours. Pasteurized substrate ready for immediate use 😎. I've had this work for pink oysters, pearl oysters and lion's mane. Side note... Shiitake might not take to this method. They grow quite slowly and contamination may set in if the substrate is not sterilized. Vigorous colonizers should love it 🌻.

@sugaslate14 Жыл бұрын

How far in advance can I make my substrate block? Let’s say my grain spawn should be here in like 2 weeks, is it too early to make a couple bags if I sterilize them? Or after I sterilize them

@SporenSprout Жыл бұрын

After sterilizing the substrate block it should be used within 1-2 weeks. You can refrigerate the substrate for 1-2 months also. The sooner the better though.

@sugaslate14 Жыл бұрын

@@SporenSprout thanks brotha

@toribowers9766 Жыл бұрын

Please help spore n’ spout! I couldn’t find oak pellets near me. I’ll have to order. My grain spawn is more than ready so I don’t want to wait on shipping. I could find oak wood chips. So I boiled them for about 10 minutes. I’m gonna let them soak for 24 hours. Any tips on getting this to work. I don’t want to mess it up.

@SporenSprout Жыл бұрын

You don’t have a tractor supply store in your town? Wood chips can be soaked for 24 hours or boiled for one hour to hydrate. Strain the chips and allow the water to drain out until no water is dripping from them.

@toribowers9766 Жыл бұрын

@@SporenSprout I do but they only sell pine pellets. Thank you so much for the tip!!

@katherinepotter3737 Жыл бұрын

@@toribowers9766Bowers I called my Tractor Supply store and they said they only sell pellets in the Winter, What??? Don't people need them in the summer to BBQ?

@tammyhesler1363 Жыл бұрын

How long can you store these substrate blocks??

@SporenSprout Жыл бұрын

They can be refrigerated for 2-3 months after they have been sterilized or 1 month at room temp.

@jamescaraman1029 Жыл бұрын

Hi sir whats the difference of this from dried straw with hydrated lime?

@SporenSprout Жыл бұрын

This substrate contains nutrients and is needed to be sterilized. You will get bigger yields with this substrate. Straw with lime is pasteurized not sterilized but still works great

@sickkunt95 Жыл бұрын

Can i use this instead of grain for the spawn?

@SporenSprout Жыл бұрын

Yes you could, most people use it for outdoor beds because the bugs are attracted to grain. But you will be missing the moisture and nutrients provided by the grain.

@toribowers9766 Жыл бұрын

Do you use unicorn bags? If not then what kind and what kind filter? Do you use different types of filters?

@SporenSprout Жыл бұрын

Yes they are 14A bags 8” X 20” with .5 micron filters.

@toribowers9766 Жыл бұрын

@@SporenSprout thank you for helping so many people. You make sure you reply. You are very much appreciated. My favorite mushroom account💚

@garycotz563 2 жыл бұрын

What kind of bag ya got there?

@SporenSprout 2 жыл бұрын

Unicorn filter patch bags. Etsy.me/3fxDxYS

@callofdoobie3092 2 жыл бұрын

How much water do you add to pressure cooker?

@SporenSprout 2 жыл бұрын

It depends on how big your pressure cooker is. In my old 23 quart I would put I think 2 quarts of water in. Basically it should be 2-3 inches of water. In my 41 quart I usually put 3-4 quarts of water.

@thePawelSroczynski 2 жыл бұрын

why high pressure is needed ? isn't it possibile to sterile it in home oven for 2hrs for 120degrees ?

@SporenSprout 2 жыл бұрын

If you put it in the oven for 2 hours at 120 degrees you will most definitely be growing contamination instead of mushrooms.

@HavokBWR Жыл бұрын

I've seen people say that you can put it in the oven with a heat proof jar at 350° for 3 hours. I'd be concerned about it drying out though. You can also steam your substrate for like 12 hours and that will kill off most of the bacteria.

@boazbullion7118 3 ай бұрын

Can we use ziplocks with micropore tape filters instead ?

@SporenSprout 3 ай бұрын

I don’t think zip locks will withstand pressure cooking.

@boazbullion7118 3 ай бұрын

@shawnkiesel5349 Жыл бұрын

Will this substrate work for Azurescens.?

@SporenSprout Жыл бұрын

It should

@hollisstyron4144 3 жыл бұрын

hey, he didnt just mix his spawn in with his sub did he?

@greatwhitecoyote 6 ай бұрын

Whats your pressure cooker size ?

@SporenSprout 6 ай бұрын

I use a 41 quart all American for substrate. You can use a 23 quart though

@jimwest4060 Жыл бұрын

Does everything really need pressure cooking?

@SporenSprout Жыл бұрын

You can’t get around pressure cooking grain spawn but you could pasteurize substrate instead of sterilizing, Check this method out using pasteurization : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p9qGgMV7y5yUgJ8.html

@jimwest4060 Жыл бұрын

@Spore n' Sprout Thanks alot dude! Content top noch

@Mega764 2 жыл бұрын

Is it rice bran or wheat Bran powder ?

@SporenSprout 2 жыл бұрын

Wheat bran

@conoromeara8974 Жыл бұрын

When using wood, does it have to be hardwood and why!?

@coltontolbert1019 11 ай бұрын

Hardwood I think is typically best bc other woods are going to typically be treated with some chemical

@Allyourbase1990 Жыл бұрын

I tried it twice with fuel pellets , and water , and had no success, which was mostly my doing . I need the bran I think

@SporenSprout Жыл бұрын

amzn.to/3dcbC2B here’s the bran I suggest.

@philcollins5749 Жыл бұрын

With Oysters at least I've been getting away with adding a cup of bran and just pasteurizing in the bag.

@ongjer Жыл бұрын

How many lbs of wood pellets per 6 cups of water?

@SporenSprout Жыл бұрын

Just measure out 5 cups of pellets and weigh it.

@ongjer Жыл бұрын

@@SporenSprout thanks! Using the same cup as the water? Hmm, how many lbs should 5 cups of wood pellets weigh? Thanks again

@mrgreen538 Ай бұрын

Recipe in grams?

@canadiananon8208 Жыл бұрын

You ever have problems with the bags deforming and popping in the pressure cooker? Almost every batch ive done lately has been a 50% loss, just cant figure it out.

@SporenSprout Жыл бұрын

Try lining the inside with aluminum foil, try adding more water to the pressure cooker. Let it depressurize naturally.

@canadiananon8208 Жыл бұрын

I'll definitely try the aluminum foil next batch, my last few attempts at things I've been using pillow cases. Gonna add a little extra water as well. 👍

@skiddysm Жыл бұрын

Watching every video lol

@SporenSprout Жыл бұрын

Haha that’s the best way to do it!

@skiddysm Жыл бұрын

@Spore n' Sprout actually wanna start growing mushrooms for my city I noticed I have 0 competition no a single store sells fresh mushrooms I'm shocked

@triumph912 Ай бұрын

I’ve heard people say sterilisation isn’t necessary when making bulk substrate and you can get away with just pasteurising it, how true is that? The narrative being that any spores that did survive pasteurisation will be insanity outcompeted by the spawn.

@SporenSprout Ай бұрын

You can either pressure sterilize or atmospheric steam sterilize. If you work fast the mycelium will outcompete left over foreign spores after pasteurization.