How to make Sage Derby

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7 жыл бұрын

Derby is a hard British cheese in the Cheddar family, however, Derby is moister than cheddar and ripens quicker allowing it to be eaten after 1 to 3 months of ageing. The Sage version is well known but is mainly industrially produced. However, rather than using sage leaves, they use artificial colourings and flavourings.
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@Ryugoby1 7 жыл бұрын

What am i doing here. I dont even like the taste of cheese and never liked it. Yet here i am watching all your cheese making videos. I think its entertaining and satisfying in some way.

@MrVinnyboombottz 3 жыл бұрын

Because you secretly love cheese.

@blackwidowmollie 7 жыл бұрын

I'm watching this rather then the election. Your videos give me comfort. Bless you sir.

@GavinWebber 7 жыл бұрын

I thought it might be a welcome distraction!

@brandonrodriguez2636 6 жыл бұрын

I seriously could listen to you talk and make cheese all day and i have no idea why. Love the channel keep up the great vids

@GavinWebber 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Brandon

@nightday4647 7 жыл бұрын

This was probably the highlight of my day. Really needed this nice relaxing video tonight. Also that cheese looks absolutely delicious. I can't wait for the taste test!

@raptorne1 7 жыл бұрын

This is so relaxing and entertaining to watch. Thanks

@Elionwyn 7 жыл бұрын

love the recipes, working my way through them.

@jonnymiskatonic 7 жыл бұрын

Great channel, simple straight forward directions, and very calming to watch and listen to. I've been telling all my cheese loving friends about you.

@GavinWebber 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks John, just working on a couple of new cheese videos now!

@jhayneartoflife6830 4 жыл бұрын

Beautiful! I love the sage idea, that must have been an absolutely tasty cheese!

@dcrepazkeay 6 жыл бұрын

Made this yesterday, everything went to plan, great video thanks.

@GavinWebber 6 жыл бұрын

Well done!

@johntindel7217 7 жыл бұрын

I'm really enjoying this series a great deal and want to try my own hand at cheesemaking as well, so thank you! Could you do a video about making fresh cheese curds (the type found in Canadian poutine and popular throughout the American midwest)? It's the only kind of cheese I can't ever seem to find around my town.

@sleepingtiger44 7 жыл бұрын

I don't even like cheese but I love these videos, it's very interesting and entertaining. Greetings from the USA! Keep up the good work!

@GavinWebber 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks spud!

@nkyhomesteading6500 7 жыл бұрын

We had this after 2 months and what a great cheese! Making a 4 gallon batch today. Needed a good excuse to put the large mold to work. :)

@luigicosenza8457 7 жыл бұрын

great job

@Katie-sx5kf 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this well done series. I hope you will find time to make Provolone for us.

@lotfihabib2132 7 жыл бұрын

very nice video , thanks

@lilliumcrystal9031 7 жыл бұрын

I love cheese. your videos have made me subscribe and want to try making my own

@GavinWebber 7 жыл бұрын

+Lillium Crystal cheers. That is the first step in becoming a Curd 🤓

@nickbarber2080 Жыл бұрын

That looks beautiful.

@GavinWebber Жыл бұрын

It was!

@bugfact9279 7 жыл бұрын

very nice!

@phookadude 7 жыл бұрын

My favorite brand of sage derby used finely powdered sage, if you were to toss the curd in powdered sage each curd would be coated and you'd get great marbling.

@Tonia.lynn2411 6 жыл бұрын

Do U have a pepper jack cheese recipe I absolutely love ur videos! U inspired me to make cheese thanks 🙏💕

@b.yavril 7 жыл бұрын

Hi Gavin, really perfect tutorial. I just want to know, do you have any schedule to teach people who need to learn how to make cheese directly at your place?. If yes, how we could have any information on it. Thanks Gavin.

@MrVinnyboombottz 3 жыл бұрын

Wish me luck, as I have plenty of fresh basil but no sage and I will be modifying your recipe with this substitution and perhaps adding some spinach since they pair so nicely.

@dcrepazkeay 5 жыл бұрын

Today I made a variation of this recipe I'm calling marmite derby! I omitted the sage but used a solution of yeast extract instead. I'll let you know how it goes on tasting.

@rizkyrifaldi7589 7 жыл бұрын

wow... very nice sir... wow

@mikesdaddy1 7 жыл бұрын

So I tried this. I got what I thought was a clean break, but when I cut the curds....they weren't nearly as well formed as yours. I continued on and stirred, and the curd seemed to break up really fast. I think the temp got up to 100 degrees F when it was supposed to top at 85. After stirring, I poured into a muslin cloth, but i need to find a good cheesecloth because the whey was having a hard time getting through. Anyway, I got all the way to the first pressing...then remembered that I forgot to add cheese salt...duh! Luckily, the cubes weren't stuck yet, so I salted and restarted the press. Seemed like too much salt but that's what you said too. Getting ready to perform the first 3 hour press, and turn over for the 12 hour press next year...which is in about 3.5 hours. All beginners mistakes but trying to duplicate "The Master Cheesemaker!"

@GavinWebber 7 жыл бұрын

Hey Ted, good recovery! I've since tried my Sage Derby and it is just right. The salt is just right. And don't worry about the mistakes, I made so many when I first started. It is the best teacher and is how we humans learn and adapt and all become better cheesemakers.

@justinbang6025 6 жыл бұрын

Does the calcium chloride have a salty flavor? I'm wondering if it flavors the cheese at all. If I were to use raw milk should I substitute the calcium chloride with some Celtic salt? Thanks for your great videos 🙏

@evilplaguedoctor5158 7 жыл бұрын

for some reason this makes me want to make a cheddar type, mustard cheese that's smoked.

@baslisks 7 жыл бұрын

I have an anova water circulator. Would I be able to use that to hit target temps rather than using the double boiler set up? It doesn't look like you really mess with the temps.

@hgvnovice2011 7 жыл бұрын

Hello Gavin we have in the uk in the shops cheddar , chives and pickled onion its amazing is it a similar way of making adding the ingredients 👍 Really nice on toast under grill

@GavinWebber 7 жыл бұрын

That would be Cotswold? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qqqlYNN71aydpas.html

@hgvnovice2011 7 жыл бұрын

Gavin Webber thanks for reply missed that video only just catching up lol

@ThomasRitsert 7 жыл бұрын

I made a sage cheddar last week. Although the sage was home grown like yours it was dried, but it seemed to work out well. We did sterilize to the best of our ability the sage just like you did with boiling water. However, we added the sage liquid to the milk before it was set as an infusion. The leaves were reserved for the salting and pressing stage. Hopefully I can remember to provide an update when it is finally revealed in a few months. This was cheese number six.

@GavinWebber 7 жыл бұрын

Well done Thomas! I believe your method will work just the same but instead of a slight marbling, the cheese will have a green tinge, which is fine.

@MultiZarali 4 жыл бұрын

Hello there, Very informative videos for someone that wants to open the door towards the Cheese-making world ! One question please: Can you explain to me on how can someone know the exact pressure is been forced on that press? Thanks in advance, Alex. P.s My English is still in curding phase.

@GavinWebber 8 ай бұрын

There you go; kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nreRpN2e0srVeKc.htmlsi=RCD1zmXywLeJs15J

@igorsolic6125 7 жыл бұрын

Hello Gavin, I have question unrelated with video, everytime I use pasturiesd storebought milk my cheese won't strech, mozzarela for example is impossible to be made with this milk. Do you think that I could get a better curd result and be able to have nice melting cheese if I start to add calcium chloride to storebought milk? Thanks.

@etherdog 7 жыл бұрын

You need to add calcium chloride to help the protein molecules link and stretch. See Gavin's mozz vid. I found that 1.5x his ratio of CaCl worked better for the milk I had at hand. Fresh unpasteurized unhomogenized milk works best.

@user-tg8kg1tc8s 7 жыл бұрын

hi, i am from Greece. Do you know any online shop with not many postal costs, so i can buy the ingredients for cheesemaking?

@nkyhomesteading6500 7 жыл бұрын

Did you ever find a solution to dye the curd for that marbling affect? I'm going to give this a go over the weekend.

@GavinWebber 7 жыл бұрын

Add a bit of spinach juice. It doesn't impart any flavour and adds a great marbling effect. The sage bits add the flavour.

@Mrviccietor 7 жыл бұрын

I love your videos. Going to make cheese myself. Few questions.. What is a easy cheese to begin with? What do you do with the leftover whey? And can you subsitute culture, chloride and rennet for something more natural like lemon juice? I hope you have time to answer these questions!

@GavinWebber 7 жыл бұрын

Hi Victor. Try Ricotta first, then Ricotta Salata. Both can be made without cultures and rennet. Then have a go at Paneer. For other cheese, you will need the other ingredients.

@Mrviccietor 7 жыл бұрын

Gavin Webber Thanks! I will try these!

@coltona.3344 7 жыл бұрын

The big curds reminds me of my favorite cheese, Porter-cheddar. Perhaps you could make that for us.

@rickydona919 7 жыл бұрын

I keep trying to find Link in the description and I'm looking for Rhett and Link in the description!

@bill-chichi9701 7 жыл бұрын

When you're cutting the curds do you still have the heat turned on under the first pot?

@GavinWebber 7 жыл бұрын

No, the heat is off from the time I add the culture to the time I start stirring after cutting the curds. Then I heat very slowly over the 50 minutes of stirring to the new target temp.

@truthfulkarl 7 жыл бұрын

can you try your hand at making curds for poutine?

@MrKenenglish1 2 жыл бұрын

Should that be 500ml of water for the sage (two cups)? and thank you for the recipe Gav.

@GavinWebber 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, correct

@zirconium2014 7 жыл бұрын

just asking can u use homebrand milk (cheapest full cream milk brand)

@GavinWebber 7 жыл бұрын

Yes, but only if you add calcium chloride and don't expect a very good quality cheese.

@zirconium2014 7 жыл бұрын

yea fair enough aye, as long as i dont taste good quality cheese then i cant complain and compare xD thank you

@Dinglebarriez 7 жыл бұрын

I really want to make cheese but I dont have a lot of the tools for aging etc. What kind of cheese can I make that is relatively quick to eat?

@GavinWebber 7 жыл бұрын

Quick Mozzarella, Feta, Bel Paese, Ricotta Salada, to name a few. All videos available on this channel!

@Dinglebarriez 7 жыл бұрын

Gavin Webber Awesome man! Thanks a lot from Canada. Love your channel.

@2t0y 7 жыл бұрын

how's the red mold infestation by the way?

@pdubs2557 7 жыл бұрын

could you please give, for each receipe, the ratio : 1kg of cheese ready to eat / X liters of cow milk? thanks in advance

@shimgoody 7 жыл бұрын

Music name? So good and calming.

@dianeluke1746 7 жыл бұрын

Gavin, did you ever manage to fix your red mold infection? I was just curious!

@GavinWebber 7 жыл бұрын

Yes, I think I did. Gave the entire cheese fridge a wipe over with white vinegar and washed all the racks. I still have two red mould cheese ripening in maturation boxes, so hopefully the mould won't jump ship again!

@Aleph-Noll 7 жыл бұрын

are there any traditionally australian types of cheese you can make

@GavinWebber 7 жыл бұрын

Nothing traditional, but we have many artisan cheese makers that make variations of well known cheese from all over the world.

@MrVinnyboombottz 3 жыл бұрын

After about 7 hours of air drying it appears as if the curd chunks are wanting to separate (like a puzzle). I pressed for the full the final 12 hours and am wondering if this is normal?

@GavinWebber 3 жыл бұрын

More pressure for longer

@MrVinnyboombottz 3 жыл бұрын

@@GavinWebber Thank you. At this point (day 2) it had dried to touch and developed a yellowish rind, I am going to vacuum pack and hope for the best.

@kittykaz7161 7 жыл бұрын

I've just dried my sage leaves, would they be still ok to use, or would freshly picked be better?

@GavinWebber 7 жыл бұрын

Dried is just as good. The flavour will be more intense.

@kalloused 7 жыл бұрын

+anonymous I don't know why you would, it would be disgusting

@kittykaz7161 7 жыл бұрын

disgusting and well not the best use for the herb

@kalloused 7 жыл бұрын

+anonymous yeah, cheese isn't going to get to temprature to release the benefits to make it effective. smh

@FerventLotus 7 жыл бұрын

Stir the curds for 50 minutes? Did I hear that correctly?

@rickydona919 7 жыл бұрын

Yes, but can you make this cheese grate?

@SUNARROWSUNARROW 7 жыл бұрын

osiyo thats hi in cherokee i love chees and and the sad thing for me is im alergik to pinsilin and so i cant consoom blue chees but i tride tasting it onc and i likts the flaver and wus wondering if ther wus a way to macke a chees that has that same ripin flaver with out the pinsilin.and can you make more munster cheesis pls thank you for what you do love the show

@christianmacri4147 7 жыл бұрын

what is your favourite italian cheese?

@davidyoung 7 жыл бұрын

Something does not sound right at 5:22. You say 250ml, but add two cups of water. 1 metric cup is 250 ml, so 2 cups should be 500 ml, which seems to be what you have added.

@ananthakrishnakaithalayil7743 7 жыл бұрын

can we add basil instead of sage

@Taikausko 7 жыл бұрын

I have done that and it was amazing

@yasminstarmade 5 жыл бұрын

love the size of your pot, just roomy enough for 10l, please let me know if it's a 12l or more pot, ta

@GavinWebber 5 жыл бұрын

It’s a 14 L pot

@yasminstarmade 5 жыл бұрын

Thank You!

@Vivademort 7 жыл бұрын

1 & 1/2 tbsp salt or 2 & 1/2? Recipie screen says 2 and audio says 1. Thanks

@GavinWebber 7 жыл бұрын

2 and 1/2 Tablespoons. Sorry about that

@SirHojack 7 жыл бұрын

You know what I'd really like to see you make? I'd like to see you do Brie.

@jisaac2890 7 жыл бұрын

what happens if you keep stirring the renet for longer than a minute?

@Shiru180 7 жыл бұрын

It explodes dramatically.

@jisaac2890 7 жыл бұрын

KastorSF Haha. I knew it! People may accidentally be gifted Christmas bombs instead of Christmas cheese. Hmm

@jenniferlloyd4807 8 ай бұрын

I read in another cheesemaking book to never use the actual plant in the cheese and only use the green infused water as it could introduce botulism. Is that a possibility here or no?

@GavinWebber 8 ай бұрын

I don't think that is so. Any bacterium or yeast is killed by the boiling water. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fbahiJidlZm3ZGg.htmlsi=4ZrKxz0p1kNEmfXp&t=313

@gaylardbauhaus6360 7 жыл бұрын

How much does all that milk cost? I'm wondering if it's cheaper to make cheese like this at home instead of buying it at the store.

@GavinWebber 7 жыл бұрын

The milk cost me AUD$20 (about US$15.30). It was pasteurised/unhomogenised BioDynamic milk, which is the best you can get after raw milk. The milk made about 1.2 kg of Sage Derby, which we cannot buy in Australia. So I guess this cheese is priceless!

@gaylardbauhaus6360 7 жыл бұрын

That's a pretty good point! Thanks for the reply.

@JohnDoe-md5qc 7 жыл бұрын

Could you try to make some Brie?

@ferretneck 5 жыл бұрын

I godda get me a bladdy rowla choppa

@MerkGSlayz 7 жыл бұрын

anyone else notice the ant on the measuring cup in the beginning of the video when he was showing off the sage. not a bad thing of course just thought it was interesting and it caught my eye so I had to rewatch that part again cause I got distracted

@GavinWebber 7 жыл бұрын

Yes, I just noticed it too. It was before I washed the leaves and picked of the stems. I caught the little blighter in the washing water!

@TheBoyar 7 жыл бұрын

why calcium chloride?

@darrenaldridge7815 7 жыл бұрын

calcium chloride gives you a firmer cheese curd after the milk has been pasteurized the pasteurizing takes the calcium out of the milk

@shimgoody 7 жыл бұрын

Anyone else see the ant to the left at 0:40 ?

@radwan776 7 жыл бұрын

How to make the wax

@berthayellowfinch1744 7 жыл бұрын

So?

@perryplatypus7353 5 жыл бұрын

organic-dynamic milk with the Demeter logo is always un-homogenized...

@monkeymanrobot 7 жыл бұрын

My sincere apologies to you kind sir, you are very correct, I should refrain from KZfaq-ing whence pissed.

@keeperofthegood 7 жыл бұрын

Oops clicked the page to scroll to the comments and unsubbed. Fixed now *phew* had a moment of O M G happen there. Looks great, I hope that marbling works out. I've had in mind trying beat water to make a vivid red/purple marble.

@GavinWebber 7 жыл бұрын

You could even use Port wine to get the same colour and it would enhance the flavour.

@monkeymanrobot 7 жыл бұрын

This was fantastic thank you very much from a cheese lover. But WHY are you using HOME BRAND salt after all your hard work? Sea Salt, Pink Salt????? Stop using that poison please.

@GavinWebber 7 жыл бұрын

If you had have listened to the video, you would have heard me mention that it was cheese salt. I reused the old container because it makes it easier to pour!

@zirconium2014 7 жыл бұрын

are u happy about trump being president

@callum3271 7 жыл бұрын

He is Australian so it won't affect him too much, so I doubt he is bothered

@zirconium2014 7 жыл бұрын

he's still entitled for an opinion. but im nothing but a mere koala bear so dont listen to me

@EpicCookiies 7 жыл бұрын

Koala Bear I'm happy 😄

@GavinWebber 7 жыл бұрын

Better start stockpiling cheese in preparation for the Tumpocalypse.

@EpicCookiies 7 жыл бұрын

Gavin Webber it's not the end of the world just because he's president. Why don't you wait and see what he's gonna do for America before talking crap.