How To Make "Thall" not Djent

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plush doll of sheep

Жыл бұрын

9step👌
• Drop F Thall riffs
not #djent thisis #thall
#7stringguitar

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@plushdollofsheep2414 2 ай бұрын

If you don't think this is THALL kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mrqil5CL263Wd6s.html

@2d2001 11 ай бұрын

to me, thall riffs don’t repeat as much. vildhjarta breakdowns feel so disorienting bc they write them in a stream of consciousness type of way instead of “here’s this one pattern im gonna repeat”. just overall weirder sounds, lower tunings, and less predictable structures (this is extremely niche and pointless so it’s not that important) so yeah that’s my two cents

@gomaaren 11 ай бұрын

yup, and often when the guitar work is simple they can throw in some crazy drum stuff. in djent, what usually follows the guitar is the bassdrum, but vildhjarta often divide this "following" responsibility across bass drum, toms and snare.

@Nullllus 9 ай бұрын

100% right

@LucatielLucynda 8 ай бұрын

Vildhjarta sounds like a conversation without words

@holocenenamesake5074 8 ай бұрын

Most interesting thing is Vildhjarta started off with repeating breakdowns in all their songs on the Omnislash album. All of the songs were rewritten and restructured with more random hooks and twists in every riff for the Mastaaden album.

@pathfinder_official1526 7 ай бұрын

agreed, currently writing a song this way

@broncoxy Жыл бұрын

step 5 is definitely the thallification

@-Hari-03 8 ай бұрын

yuppers

@oblivion4150 8 ай бұрын

Step 8 is the most important for thallification... but Ig djent does that too

@Geisterpfeifenfisch 3 ай бұрын

Very true!

@Khaynizzle7 6 ай бұрын

That bass tone is absolutely fucking bananas

@francobuzzetti9424 2 күн бұрын

bass is carrying this so hard!

@EE-iv5ej 11 ай бұрын

Soooo from what I can hear, Thall is like, if djent ACTUALLY sounds like Meshuggah.

@homewardboundphotos 4 ай бұрын

legit, Meshuggah create the style but none of the bands that claim the style sound anything like meshuggah. most "djent" so called bands are just really really heavy prog. very few understand what makes meshuggah meshuggah is how its groovy while being weird and offbeat.

@JohnR436 Жыл бұрын

Write that down WRITE THAT DOWN.

@KINGJADEX 21 күн бұрын

I wanna be a thall boi when I grow up

@SSPGwemlin 5 ай бұрын

Not the biggest thall fan, but I do still have a lot of respect for the genre. Particularly because as a fan of Sludge/Doom Metal, I can personally hear a bit of influence from those genres in there, and I think it’s cool that those older influences can shine through more modern music, even if that wasn’t the intention of the artists, well, except for a band like Black Tongue, they very bluntly have doom and sludge vibes thrown in.

@rheymarvinsalestre4075 8 ай бұрын

You forgot the most crucial aspect of thall: Make the strings sound like suspension bridge cables Fractalize did it masterfully

@MoonDevoured 6 ай бұрын

Immersed and Instant fuuuuck me up

@masamunetozzi 11 ай бұрын

The pitch shift 😂😂 I do love it tho

@JeffreydeKogel 8 ай бұрын

Damn I love this sound. Thall always hits me just right.

@f7744dread388 8 ай бұрын

Splendid 🔥🔥

@johnbrixpomoy5220 8 ай бұрын

Recently I just bought KRK rp5 and I accidently found this in KZfaq, it was actually good mixing. keep it up man!

@MikeAngelo7604 11 ай бұрын

Very good 👍🏻 love it !!

@plushdollofsheep2414 11 ай бұрын

Thk u 😊

@PyrStudios 11 ай бұрын

Dude that mix is just *chefs kiss*

@user-yd4kx4lc7q 11 ай бұрын

Wow.. so good. :)

@plushdollofsheep2414 11 ай бұрын

thk u!!!

@KOR3Andrea 2 ай бұрын

This is the perfect tutorial finally not one that makes it clownish.

@GonnaGetYouBoi 11 ай бұрын

i used to be a thall boi, but now i'm just a djenty gent

@plushdollofsheep2414 11 ай бұрын

@GonnaGetYouBoi 11 ай бұрын

@@plushdollofsheep2414 =)

@sirdo946 9 ай бұрын

No no, you're moving the wrong way!

@frankthecat1660 8 ай бұрын

It's all just metal.

@Diverdjent 6 ай бұрын

Hey :D

@Existomalus 11 ай бұрын

No thall was detected

@csilval18 11 ай бұрын

Strong Vola vibes

@plushdollofsheep2414 11 ай бұрын

Really? Happy!

@Prof.Pwnalot 9 ай бұрын

Nice man, missing the twings and twangs though :P Much different to Vildhjarta imo. Nice title / descriptions of the technical sides for laymans like me who gauge on ears :P

@thenuttednutter2669 Жыл бұрын

Godbless the Meshuggah.

@blxcktongue Жыл бұрын

What.

@northtimo666 Жыл бұрын

@@blxcktonguewhat?

@blxcktongue Жыл бұрын

@@northtimo666 the video clearly says how to make, "thall" right, thall. Not djent. If you didn't know, thall is a word that was formed by the way the guitarist plays the riffs in the band, "Vildhjarta." Right, and this comment is praising the progressive metal band, "Meshuggah."

@arockfloatinginspace4488 Жыл бұрын

@@blxcktongue i dont a see a possibly where thall would exist before djent

@blxcktongue Жыл бұрын

@@arockfloatinginspace4488 *progressive

@Genghis_Sean_ 6 ай бұрын

Feels more like standard deathcore with a seasoning of thall

@carazy123_ 4 ай бұрын

Yeah this isn’t thall but it sounds decent at least

@notgluebert 4 ай бұрын

never heard this term before and I still knew exactly what this was about to sound like lmao

@erreip_ 9 ай бұрын

This. Rocked.

@Nestorglass 2 ай бұрын

Cant wait for every modern core band to have their heavy single sound exactly like this until we're all sick of it

@ruslan_kvtvnv 6 ай бұрын

Sounds awesome. What is scale of this guitar and wat strings did you use?

@KK_suggestions 11 ай бұрын

参考になりました！

@plushdollofsheep2414 11 ай бұрын

良かったです！

@immersionHEHE 11 ай бұрын

What ampsim and cab are you using? Actually btw, what drum library and bass aswell? 😂 Sounds awesome

@plushdollofsheep2414 11 ай бұрын

ampero2,Loki Bass 2,MixWave: Luke Holland🔥

@immersionHEHE 11 ай бұрын

@@plushdollofsheep2414 thx man!!! I'm using Loki 2, gonna have to check the other stuff out for sure!

@DarkminiStoned 5 ай бұрын

Rules number one of "thall". Get that brown notes 95% of the time and you're good. Anyway, that breakdown part is fucking amazing lol oh yea dont forget that china symbal.

@mikloszapori-regenhart6134 5 ай бұрын

Nah thats just djent but its goood

@pinkavyek Жыл бұрын

damn ok shawty

@ellyisonyoutube4017 Жыл бұрын

Flawless

@plushdollofsheep2414 11 ай бұрын

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

@LegendaryVodnik 8 ай бұрын

Not mentioned: triplet feel, but you got it anyway

@blackholestudios9284 11 ай бұрын

Siiiiiick tone!!!!

@Hacker-fn8vd 4 ай бұрын

Drop E is crazy ngl

@rossward7801 11 ай бұрын

heavy as fuck. nice work.

@CLFmoto87 10 ай бұрын

So make a Vildhjarta song.

@MZFKLoose 6 ай бұрын

Напоминаю, что бас тоже должен быть на октаву ниже, а не в унисон!

@landhomer4627 11 ай бұрын

and Lofi guitars

@JaviAltonaga 8 ай бұрын

tassssty!!!

@Brewtalgaming 6 ай бұрын

step 1: have good tone

@pedro6682 11 ай бұрын

Need more

@TheAntarcticaProject 11 ай бұрын

🔥🔥🔥🔥

@Creatixion-lt6qo 8 ай бұрын

Maybe coincidental but the riff sounds quite similar to Freakjuice's Gangsta life ... recorded in 1999

@vault3343 Жыл бұрын

kick ass

@andallicansayis 7 ай бұрын

thall

@FoiMal123 5 күн бұрын

Still djent

@MarkToast99 6 ай бұрын

You know those "If ___ was djent" videos? Thall is like taking a song that's already a djent song, treating it like it isn't djenty, and saying "what if we made it djenty?" It's double djent.

@jankington216 4 ай бұрын

TIL thall is when the guitar makes a "djent" sound

@redfoxxx9997 Жыл бұрын

THALL!!!!! ASF!!!!

@JayDuuubb 11 ай бұрын

"not djent" Step 4: Djent

@plushdollofsheep2414 11 ай бұрын

Lol

@Jalterra 5 ай бұрын

make this a song

@maxalaintwo3578 11 ай бұрын

Shoulda slided

@MoonDevoured 6 ай бұрын

fml this is so tasty

@hastyhillfarmand4x480 11 ай бұрын

How to meshuggah for beginners

@metalux2901 5 ай бұрын

Humanity last Breath

@proximityclockworkx1572 7 ай бұрын

Sounds like djent to me

@Ei-mx1we 4 ай бұрын

Still sounds like a Djent song to me, ngl.

@mrraimundo130 11 ай бұрын

Not quite but nevertheless great tutorial!

@plushdollofsheep2414 11 ай бұрын

For beginners!

@jameswhite7367 8 ай бұрын

すごいシャアル

@Ryanxofficials 2 ай бұрын

How to mix like this sound

@THALLDOJO Жыл бұрын

THALL

@norwardradtke1361 6 ай бұрын

He uses the line 6 pod farm “big bottom” amp sim with his own IRs. Just watched a video with buster coffee with Ola where he said it verbatim. You’re welcome

@ForLorNVuLgaR 11 ай бұрын

Is there really a difference between thall and djent?

@plushdollofsheep2414 11 ай бұрын

In what sense are they distinguished?

@ForLorNVuLgaR 11 ай бұрын

@@plushdollofsheep2414 Im still working that one out

@slapyomomma8727 9 ай бұрын

Yes, one is thall and the other is djent.

@donaldmacgregor2628 9 ай бұрын

listen to vildhjarta then listen to invent animate and tell me

@ForLorNVuLgaR 9 ай бұрын

oh no trust me I know! I love me some thall like Miroist, I was just saying that the op vid showcasing thall vs djent couldve done a lil better separating the two. BTW I binge listen to without a whisper on repeat @@donaldmacgregor2628

@lolminer86 11 ай бұрын

heavyyyy god damn, tone is fat af very cool.

@plushdollofsheep2414 11 ай бұрын

thk u 🔥

@atomicpunk2360 10 ай бұрын

Do people just make up dumb sounding words to describe heavily down tuned riffs these days? 😂

@serrisdaylor1015 7 ай бұрын

Actually yes, as far as I know, Thall is named in the same way as djent was. Djent describes the palm mute, Thall is the open note. I feel like that's probably the main difference between the two as well? Djent will be tighter, focused on staccato and palm mutes while thall is more loose, a bit more about the ambience

@sindrerb 9 ай бұрын

Its djent, but tuned so low that you cant actually hear it.

@lucaguitarplayer 8 ай бұрын

what the hell is pitch shifting???

@borgabuddana 7 ай бұрын

what do you mean technically by "octave fret and bend"? nice fucking thall tho:)

@serrisdaylor1015 7 ай бұрын

Bending the heaviest string at the 12th fret up a semitone so that when you hit the open string again afterwards, it's like doing a 1-0 but with a greater distance between notes. Tablature-wise, it looks like 12^-0--

@MrOmen420 11 ай бұрын

Dropped F sounds more crisp than E, js

@Pietreszcz 9 ай бұрын

Yoooo what drums did you use?

@plushdollofsheep2414 9 ай бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aahlY8ucvN-rqps.html ↑🔥

@blackgrizzly4987 11 ай бұрын

Most don't know what Djent actually is

@James.99 3 ай бұрын

Thall is just a bass track with no guitar

@notaciaagent446 11 ай бұрын

So how is this not djent?

@plushdollofsheep2414 11 ай бұрын

I don't know lol

@frankthecat1660 8 ай бұрын

It's the same.

@RWNPOP 6 ай бұрын

I don't think you made Thall, I think Thall made you.

@xdwarheadfoxtrotx8990 6 ай бұрын

Ambiance is steps 1-5 ngl

@samirgolchha 10 ай бұрын

Sorry, but it's not thall. Yeah, the only bend here sounded thall-ish but I'm just tired of people making these 'how to t h a l l' videos after hearing one and a half hlb or fractalize songs. Production and riifs are good tho.

@Crcmvnt 24 күн бұрын

Agreed.

@bobbygoestoabyss6624 6 ай бұрын

What is thall? pls explain somebody?!

@calebgarcia9864 6 ай бұрын

now put it in 2x speed and you have djent :)

@carterbennettmusic8948 9 ай бұрын

can't be thall if 4/4 gotta throw in some 11/8 or some bs for the trickery or the lols

@silvasen1985 11 ай бұрын

the pick scratch, how???

@DeusAmoeba 7 ай бұрын

Reverse bend is the thallest shit there is

@apothecide.2 Жыл бұрын

Thall

@sushio4357 7 ай бұрын

I am not into extreme metal or djent but I do listen to a lot of Vildhjarta, no HLB or FRACTALIZE. But if you really do wanna Thall like Vildhjarta does, this is nowhere near that 😅

@sahinlandman4667 6 ай бұрын

You just made djent

@weevilsnitz 8 ай бұрын

So what you're saying is Limp Bizkit is thall

@Myqq._ 7 ай бұрын

Limp Bizkit doesn't use guitars in drop E and pitch shifters, nor any harmonics.

@edgeofsanity9111 11 ай бұрын

Yeah, maybe we should stop making metal a downtune/heaviness competition and actually get back to making a piece of art

@Enshadowed 9 ай бұрын

look there is still tons of metal bands who aren't focusing on low tunings, I love traditional heavy metal and all the subgenres. the super low frequencies are awesome and it is still creating art. I'm glad this variety of modern metal exists!

@cattypat6 7 ай бұрын

Sure because thall totally doesn't have plenty of fans who just enjoy the sound... don't try to reduce this to "less than a piece of art" because this is still undeniably music.

@Enshadowed 7 ай бұрын

exactly@@cattypat6