I love watching all the electricians from different states argue with each other about what will pass and what won’t.
@Lets_Go_Canes7 ай бұрын
This is a code fail.
@calvinengelbrecht67087 ай бұрын
Different states?NEC stands for NATIONAL Electric Code.
@HeWentThattaway7 ай бұрын
@@calvinengelbrecht6708 and yet, if you read the comments in this and many other videos, you’ll see hundreds of “licensed electricians” claiming that a certain practice is allowed in their state. Also, don’t some states go by a certain year of the NEC?
@edisont.picard41127 ай бұрын
@@calvinengelbrecht6708The NEC is a document written by a private company. Local inspection authorities can adopt any electrical standard they want, not just the NEC or the latest NEC.
@johnkulpowich52607 ай бұрын
Get ten electrician in a room get ten different opinions. And who's smarter then the next guy
@matsfreedom8 ай бұрын
There is no shortage of electricians who think that their work is better than the other guy's. It's the nature of the specialty. Keep up the good work.
@robertnusbaum31168 ай бұрын
R1r2ģ
@deang56228 ай бұрын
There is no shortage of electricians that think they are experts on electricity. Then the electrical engineer enters the room and corrects all the KZfaq videos they made...
@localone15978 ай бұрын
Exactly. All you ever hear is criticism. There's many ways to do a job but too many think their way is the only and best way, its not.
@johnmulligan95268 ай бұрын
What happens after he dose the grounds.? Sounds like he says do the hots when he's on the white wire. I'm confused.
@niezzer8 ай бұрын
@@localone1597his splices are garbage though...
@questioneverything27 ай бұрын
When I was building, you had to staple the romex within six inches of the box
@tcarable7 ай бұрын
It's been a while since I've done electrical work, but I'm in Ohio. And it's the same thing here. You have to have a staple if there is no connector with this connector it was twelve inches
@edisont.picard41127 ай бұрын
Code says within 12" if the box has a clamp. 8" for single gang boxes with no clamp.
@johnkulpowich52607 ай бұрын
Put Sheetrock over it where's it going
@Redbaronn7 ай бұрын
Work of art bro
@user1816 ай бұрын
While service loops are a wonderful thing, the next guy who works on this may not know they exist. Furthermore, those service loops are more susceptible to being punctured/cut by a homeowner hanging something on the wall who doesn’t know they’re there.
@hosmanantunez91507 ай бұрын
That guy worked in low voltage before being an electrician. 😅
@smartchip6 ай бұрын
elaborate, low voltage in the U.K. is
@mikeyfromsd6 ай бұрын
@@smartchip Below 120VAC, usually controls such as 24VDC.
@betz9996 ай бұрын
You assume that because he takes his time and doesn't have the mindset of "cant see it from my house"? I'd take a sparky that's former data over one that's trying to run data. Bunch of gorillas, haha.
@betz9996 ай бұрын
@@smartchipin the US it's usually anything not related to AC. Mainly talking data, CCTV, access, burg, phones.
@adampindell6 ай бұрын
@@smartchip it's the same in the US when you're talking power generation and distribution. Not so much with residential construction.
@garyschultz2536 ай бұрын
Then here come the Drywaller with the Dremal !
@williamhaines77522 ай бұрын
If they were good the wires will go undamaged and no boxes will go buried plenty of times I had to take straight edge piece of wood to look for the bulge then measure height of said outlet then poke holes with screw driver or sheet rock saw when you heard the rattle of wires you could then begin cutting to edge till top and bottom of box then left to right then finish cutting out the boxes once height and width was established
@ozz7602Ай бұрын
All that intricate fine hand placing of the wires, when I come through with the router I just jam all your wires to the back
@dennismiller9979Ай бұрын
Worse than that a drunk drywaller with a dremel LOL just saying
@dennismiller9979Ай бұрын
Worse a drunken drywaller with a dremel... Just saying
@stephenotto22948 ай бұрын
Looks like your neuteral Re stripped a little short doesnt look like theres much copper twisted under that wire nut
@bengonzalez65958 ай бұрын
You need 3/4” of cooper
@myemail20058 ай бұрын
@@bengonzalez6595 Sould everyone imagine the old guy who comments in the plumbing video's saying your comment? 🤪
@thecreasegrease8 ай бұрын
@@myemail2005Hey Boi back in my day I would have run you off my job site.
@VortexTheGreat698 ай бұрын
I thought the same thing
@MrStatic1018 ай бұрын
@@myemail2005”back in my day we left a inch of copper on that neutral, while smoking a pack of camels, or you get off my job site boyyyyy” I do agree with him though those neutrals were too short 🤣
@nhankhuu56438 ай бұрын
Your neutrals are going to come apart. It doesn't hurt to strip them longer than you need, twist all of them together then clip them to length.
@johnkulpowich52608 ай бұрын
Read the wire nut box no need to twist
@nhankhuu56438 ай бұрын
@@johnkulpowich5260 people like you keep me in business
@johnkulpowich52608 ай бұрын
@@nhankhuu5643 read the box. U L approve
@gawdzalien28118 ай бұрын
@@nhankhuu5643i wouldnt call ypu to replace a light bulb
@robertbenavidez71647 ай бұрын
I usually strip them down and go to work on them!😂😂😂😂
@tycox87046 ай бұрын
Imagine how much more elegant and spacious the box would be if it had buses for the neutral and ground wires, and the switches simply snapped into place like circuit breakers.
@tedwalford76156 ай бұрын
Wow; yes! Clearly better. Does it exist?
@tycox87046 ай бұрын
@@tedwalford7615 Only half-ass attempts exist like this one from Leviton: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/htxziKidlrnPhIU.htmlsi=LtIK5DqSbS_qeUoi Leviton’s product still has all of the inherent challenges of the existing approach.
@MineStrongth5 ай бұрын
Imagine how much more expensive, you said?
@Ty-vn3cu5 ай бұрын
Imagine paying an extra $25 for every box in your house 😭
@tycox87045 ай бұрын
@@Ty-vn3cu progress comes with a price. That’s true for anything new. LED lighting was multiple times more expensive when it was introduced. Now, it is a value and a standard after mass adoption. Look at the $3k+ smart circuit panels that are emerging. Before you realize it, they will be comparable in price today’s technology and will be the standard if battery storage evolves.
@stewy10317 ай бұрын
Sheet rock screws just entered the chat😮😮😮
@marcgonzalez55036 ай бұрын
Hahaha
@KERNFUZED5 ай бұрын
serivce loop? screw catcher ..that prob fail here in NJ idk,,,,goodluck drill on wire nuts? @@marcgonzalez5503
@LzysGraphics4 ай бұрын
You do realize loose cables such as the service loop here are way less likely to get damaged compared to wires stapled to the stud or passing through a stud right? It's why there's no restriction in the NEC against service loops besides a max length of 18" from the point of last staple in the 2020 revision. Loose cables in cavities are going to be pushed back at least 3.5" inches before hitting the sheetrock behind it and no drywall installer is using 3.5".
@aaronbuckmiller4728Ай бұрын
😅
@DocJeep18 ай бұрын
Don't need to support the other end of the box? That box would fail in my area; no greenie on grounds, no support on box, no service loops allowed, and no staple within 6" of box. Looks clean, though. ❤
@seabass53257 ай бұрын
You don't need a staple within 6" of a box with internal clamps. Typically single gang boxes are the only ones that fall under that code. Greeneville isn't a code either, they are preference.
@militaryav8r6 ай бұрын
I'm not a professional electrician, I'm just a curious guy... but why do they not allow service loops in your area?? That seems like it would be super helpful to the homeowner or subsequent electricians over the years.
@seabass53256 ай бұрын
@militaryav8r the easiest answer is that the wires aren't supported within the first foot of the box with a clamp. The other reason is....because the inspector said so. Unfortunately JHA has final say and can supercede anything the code calls for. Remember, the NEC is National bare standards. The municipality can add or remove what the deem fit. Always got to the code official and ask for his pet peeves when you go into a new town. Makes life easier. As any electrician will tell you, inspectors have a bit of a god complex....
@marvinwerth94215 ай бұрын
I always liked to include the inspector opinion at rough-in. They love to feel important....always went smooth at final!
@MaxBeline-vc4fg5 ай бұрын
Support? Come on man,,,
@theodoreboone98078 ай бұрын
Should fold the wires not roll the wires into the box so when the drywallers come with their rotozip and they nick the wire, it nick's it where you still have plenty of wire
@johnkulpowich52607 ай бұрын
Don't be cheap use a deeper box it pays off
@fritzmiller97926 ай бұрын
🎯👍
@ozz7602Ай бұрын
@@johnkulpowich5260what you mean use a bigger box, it's got to fit in between the 2 by 4, that's interior wall
@David-eh9yv29 күн бұрын
Nick and Phil, my favorite drywallers
@chazman44616 ай бұрын
Our inspectors would not approve that. I like it though.
@stephenferguson74468 ай бұрын
I think I speak for all sparks in the uk … what the FUCK .. how is that an acceptable way to terminate cables especially the earths 😂
@lassaut67948 ай бұрын
Could you elaborate how you brits do it differently?
@Redact63Lluks8 ай бұрын
Do you not know the US runs 110-120?
@BS-ix7qp8 ай бұрын
@@lassaut6794we put sleeving on earth conductor and into a wago connector. Make it easier when testing/fault finding. I don't know enough about the regs in US. In Europe we mainly have 230V whereas US it is 110V. That may be why safety is more relaxed? Sorry I don't know much more than that but hope it helps 👍 from a UK electrician
@sibrown8 ай бұрын
Speaking as another UK spark, twisting any cables together makes it such a pain to make changes at a later date, also if trying to fault find. Say for instance someone put a screw or nail through a cable and you had to pull a new cable through, you’ll have to untwist all those cables so identify which cable it is. We will sleeve each earth and put into a wago connector, makes the whole job easier for the next guy or yourself if called back. And let’s be honest, do you really enjoy twisting those all together?
@customsolutions71678 ай бұрын
US and UK do it differently..😂
@donwilliams12848 ай бұрын
Looks real nice but it's a code violation cable must be stabled within 12 in of box code
@FestiCatcher7 ай бұрын
Not a violation, it just has to be secured within 12 inches as the crow flies from the staple to the hole in the box. As long as the wire isn’t pinched by sheetrockers you wont be called on it unless you or someone else made an enemy out of the inspector
@icevariable96007 ай бұрын
Incorrect. #1) If you're going to call someone out, you better be able to refer to the code. You didn't, and you just so happen to be wrong. 2) NEC 2017, 2020, 2023: 334.30 states "NM sheathed cable shall be supported and secured by staples...at intervals not exceeding 4.5' and within 12" of every cable entry... The cable LENGTH between the cable entry and the closest cable support shall not exceed 18". Actually, the 18" rule was added in the 2020 NEC. So, you might want to get a more current up to date book. Be sure to name the code in the future.
@JMjayesim7 ай бұрын
@icevariable9600 this the most accurate reply to this comment
@awesome64866 ай бұрын
@@JMjayesim no shit really? was it because he posted the code regarding this subject? thanks
@fritzmiller97926 ай бұрын
@@icevariable9600 I now see the Code cited and can't dispute it BUT those service loops are definitely over 18". Personally I find the premise for doing this verses the potential for defeating the purpose of a staple as well as a ridiculous waste of wire to be a bad idea.
@yevonishenko81887 ай бұрын
Those labels will be helpful after texture and paint is applied
@1337farm8 ай бұрын
My inspectors would not pass this
@icevariable96007 ай бұрын
Nothing here is a code violation. So, he should. Unless they're using 2017 code and are unaware of the updates in 2020. You just need to have the service loops 18" or less in length.
@1337farm7 ай бұрын
Yes we are still on 2017 code in tn
@icevariable96007 ай бұрын
@@1337farm 2020 is more restrictive than 2017. 2017 didn’t have a limit in cable length. There is nothing in 2017 that limits cable length when connecting to a box. 2020 put in the limit, which is 18”. There is no reason to fail this work, as long as the staple is within 12” of the furthest cable entry.
@mikeiver7 ай бұрын
Fail here in NY as well. All that excess wire above the box, fail! 9 x 14ga conductors in a red wire nut, fail, NM not secured within 6" of the box, fail! Nope, not gonna fly.
@icevariable96007 ай бұрын
@@mikeiver Seriously? Now name the code section. - there is no 6” code on cable length. - there is no code on cable length in 2017 NEC. 344.30 - all that 2017 says is the strap has to be 12” from entry point of cable. - 2017 NEC has no restriction on cable length. - 2020 & 2023 has the 18” cable length restriction. Please learn to read and know your code.
@dougmansfieldiii21207 ай бұрын
"fastened within 12" of termination point"
@griznatle6 ай бұрын
It is though. Notice the red clip
@16vSciroccoboi6 ай бұрын
This is code compliant. It's ugly, but it's code compliant.
@jasonf97362 ай бұрын
The 12 inches is measured along the sheath of the cable so this is a violation. The red clip is much further than 12 inches from where the box clamp is.
@Michaelebills8 ай бұрын
I love it when electricians make service loops... It makes future upgrades so much easier!
@CorenergyElectrical-xe8ew8 ай бұрын
Those are a code violation.. needs to be strapped 12 inches from entering the box..
@Michaelebills8 ай бұрын
@CorenergyElectrical-xe8ew My statement is not about how the electrician did the job... It was that having Service Loops is a nice thing. Take up your criticisms with the guy who did the job.
@TheDarthJesus8 ай бұрын
@@CorenergyElectrical-xe8ew Thats 12 inches from the box; which his staple is. You dont need to measure the loop as well.
@CorenergyElectrical-xe8ew8 ай бұрын
@TheDarthJesus so by your interpretation of code.. 8 can have a full wall cavity of romex loose in the wall.. loops of wire as long as there is a staple 12" from the box... think about that for a second 🤔 😅
@TheDarthJesus8 ай бұрын
@@CorenergyElectrical-xe8ew Technically yes, but that would probably fail due to poor workmanship.
@StevenGamesWHC7 ай бұрын
I like deep boxes with bare minimum length I like to help electricians after me appreciate their own work more
@billsquires8537 ай бұрын
That might pass inspection in your state but not in Fayette county 😂
@garymiller31948 ай бұрын
Violation NEC 334-24 bending radius romex
@andycopeland70516 ай бұрын
Niiiice
@martinskamla67897 ай бұрын
Amerian wiring is Crazy to me
@johnkulpowich52607 ай бұрын
That's because your not a cry baby
@manletopia48016 ай бұрын
its nice having a hair dryer max out an entire circuit in your house
@johnkulpowich52606 ай бұрын
@@manletopia4801 in a new house that shouldn't happen. So what's the problem
@manletopia48016 ай бұрын
@@johnkulpowich5260 not everyone is a 1965 boomer with a 401K
@justme53846 ай бұрын
@@johnkulpowich5260*you're
@christophertstone2 ай бұрын
Beautiful work. Really wish more elechickens did work like this. Can really tell, you've been the guy who had to fix someone else's work.
@UlySambrano7 ай бұрын
This is why everyone jokes electrical takes forever, they're making up boxes this way 😂
@vincentsharp23608 ай бұрын
Service loops can burn your house down, seen it personally. I agree with the method and appreciate it, but insulators and drywallers don't care about your wire. 541.47 won't save you on the supports either. Overall very clean work
@deang56228 ай бұрын
It's just a weird thing you Americans do. We don't do it in my country. It's not required.
@ABLT811188 ай бұрын
I don't do service loops because it does not allow me to meet my code requirements for staples/strapping outside the box.
@TheCabledawg18 ай бұрын
I gotta ask. How can a service loop cause a fire?
@eds65698 ай бұрын
@@ABLT81118yeah, it's awesome when ya have extra length to pull later on but I'd never do loops like that on new builds if it's being inspected later.
@kbr18878 ай бұрын
@@TheCabledawg1gives drywaller a lot more surface area of wire to hit with a screw.
@court23798 ай бұрын
Now if we could just teach them to cut the wire to the right length to begin with and save the 10ft cut off as waste in just this box...
@LenayLovesMe7 ай бұрын
You mean the pension plan c? Why would they do that
@Chad-em2fg5 ай бұрын
@@LenayLovesMethe good Lord knows you ain’t lying !!!!!!’🤥
@tomrogers94674 ай бұрын
Three bucks a pound at the scrapyard. Beer money.
@court23794 ай бұрын
@@VideoViewer33512 Except it's hundreds of dollars in offcuts, not 10, and requires negligible additional effort. Mostly just caring enough to pay attention where it gets cut.
@Gunter_Custom4 ай бұрын
Mine are never more than the required amount in the box...😂
@dougcorwin30908 ай бұрын
Tail out grounds to switches
@industrialpalletworx35486 ай бұрын
I was looking for this comment. Took awhile. I didn't see any ground tails for each switch.
@sunkmanitutankaowaci27336 ай бұрын
They’re there
@MHSDankusPotatus7 ай бұрын
Fun fact: service loops are a code violation. Looks great though 👍
@BlitzHack7 ай бұрын
Exactly and this guy loves to pick on other peoples work.
@MHSDankusPotatus7 ай бұрын
@@icze4r up to an extent. I'd be hard pressed to find many jurisdictions that are that far back and that revised on code to allow that out right.
@pgrunt4297 ай бұрын
@@icze4ris called the NATIONAL Electrical Code
@blitzkrueg077 ай бұрын
Yup need to be anchored within 8" of the box
@MHSDankusPotatus7 ай бұрын
@@pgrunt429 yes but jurisdictions can omit things technically but definitely not to this extent
@josecisnero61568 ай бұрын
NEC article 100- read it.. we have to follow manufacturers recommendation, if you read the information on the wirenuts container you’ll find useful information, too many conductor for that size wire nut…..
@GY6SCOOTERCHAT5 ай бұрын
Are you saying he didn’t do it right?
@Noruzenchi863 ай бұрын
@@GY6SCOOTERCHAT They're saying that the conductors in the middle of the clump are going to fall out and take the rest with them. Nuts have decent edge grip but nonexistent core grip.
@mycaddigo6 ай бұрын
Wish my boxes looked even half that good.
@lfcfan17897 ай бұрын
I was fortunate to work with multiple electricans with 40 plus in the trade. One of them once said to me "always remember this simple phrase... function over form"
@andycopeland70516 ай бұрын
Function over form I say it to everyone i teach.
@esserking67358 ай бұрын
I appreciate your attention to details!
@cda466211 ай бұрын
Romex shall stapled within 12 inches out of the box, and then every four feet, the loop you are leaving ( I understand why you are leaving it) but doesn’t the inspector say anything about the lack of the first staple
@tennessee_electrician11 ай бұрын
It’s 18 inches of slack allowed per 2020 NEC (334.30)
@HBSuccess8 ай бұрын
@@tennessee_electrician That is true but it’s still wasteful and unnecessary.
@lassaut67948 ай бұрын
@@HBSuccessyou have way too much trust in your crackhead drywallers.
@richardpatterson43128 ай бұрын
@@HBSuccessswitches go bad and burn wire up, it's nice to have a bit you can pull to redo. If the crap wasn't crap made in China, then I'd agree with you
@MrFriday838 ай бұрын
@@richardpatterson4312 That looks to be about 12-18 extra inches. How many boxes do you think a this house will go through 😬
@kevanboyd73238 ай бұрын
no sleeving on ground!! mandatory in uk
@timgerk32626 ай бұрын
People keep saying this. Why? In case of fault you want that hot wire to short to ground asap, so the circuit breaker can operate. Sleeved ground means more floating hots, my POV.
@jovanies97515 ай бұрын
I appreciate electricians. All the hard work put in.
@jamesmckay9568 ай бұрын
Use deep boxes - on everything. Make them up neat , no need for a service loop . Ever
@johnkulpowich52608 ай бұрын
Today you have to use deep box's. Dimmers. GFI. Timers. Other electronics
@MoneyManHolmes7 ай бұрын
3.5 inch deep boxes are amazing. But the work in this video is clean AF and I have zero complaints.
@icevariable96007 ай бұрын
You must be new here. Almost sounds like you've never had to move a box. Crazy, I know. But in a couple years of experience, you'll come around to having to move a box here and there.
@MrPhilllyD6 ай бұрын
Except for those pesky code requirements in certain jurisdictions
@andycopeland70516 ай бұрын
So long as you don't cut the wires retardedly short the way I know most of you do
@cameronlovell37356 ай бұрын
Think carefully before choosing to share neutrals. Might be alright in this case, but not always.
@davidskidmore34425 ай бұрын
I use a lot of smart switches that need the neutrals, so this would be a pita.
@briancasey29386 ай бұрын
You have to secure the romex within 12inches of the box and are allowed 18 inches of free wire before termination in the box
@richardhoner78425 ай бұрын
Is the 18 inches per NEC?
@joedaddy36065 ай бұрын
If u have to put the staple 12" from box and are allowed 18" after staple before termination in box code also says u must have at least 6" of wire coming out of box doesn't that make 18" of wire so a service loop would add more than 18" and that would be a violation that is why where I'm an electrician at we would fail everytime for a service loop
@rmm5t8 ай бұрын
I do DIY electrical for friends and family. I’ve opened hundreds of old work boxes. I wish some of them looked like this.
@dallas53748 ай бұрын
If you’re not a licensed and insured electrician you should not be doing electrical period.
@helomech19737 ай бұрын
Yeah the cost of wire is not coming out his check
@youngestincharge19988 ай бұрын
Your work has inspired me to be a better electrician
@danielt68108 ай бұрын
Wow very nice ... especially the service loops! I did a renovation of my house build in the 60s. So many short cables!
@TODEEP178 ай бұрын
They made Pass-through ground wire-nuts
@icevariable96007 ай бұрын
Yeah, but only one ground can pass through.
@timb92128 ай бұрын
Lol @ the wire nut drill attachment
@Richardhead12227 ай бұрын
That thing is awesome in commercial when you've got a hundred boxes to make up lmao
@cafe80s7 ай бұрын
I want one!
@michaelgleason47917 ай бұрын
On an impact wrench no less.
@MWorsa6 ай бұрын
The wire nut driver on the back of an Ideal screwdriver though is awesome 😃
@sergeypuzhlyakov89836 ай бұрын
Dottie CX1. I have one and love it!
@BeauxMac-ix7lp8 ай бұрын
Awe you use a drill for your wire nuts how cute 😂
@Qthekat19845 ай бұрын
I was going to say the same thing, but I found your comment 😁 ❤
@joshuaglass18275 ай бұрын
Dudes saving himself from carpal tunnel but yeah keep being the tough guy.
@Qthekat19845 ай бұрын
@@joshuaglass1827 🤣🤣🤣
@legalize4204 ай бұрын
It's just cute that people still use wire nuts. Dinosaurs! Switch to the new wago lever nuts. Ditch those old cap nuts. And ditch the hack electricians who don't use wago.
@legalize4204 ай бұрын
I never want to see an old boomer dinosaur cap nut ever again. 😂
@edwardmcdermott99486 ай бұрын
competition is good for our industry!!!! but we all know that my work is by far bar none the best!!!! 😂
@dougcorwin30907 ай бұрын
In my area romex must be stapled with in 6 inches of the box
@andycopeland70516 ай бұрын
They just tell you that because you're too dumb to eyeball 12" so they tell you 6 to be safe
@xCALIMADRIDISTAx8 ай бұрын
I’ll never forget someone opened up a panel I made up and asked me where the service loops were
@satelng8 ай бұрын
Please don't twist the neutrals like tgat. Such a pain to pull apart
@MendelStein8 ай бұрын
Bro you shouldn't ever need to pull them apart
@jordanolsonm8 ай бұрын
@@MendelStein most WiFi switches need a neutral connection. Every switch I have replaced in my house has been such a pain to access the neutral because they were twisted together like this.
@MendelStein8 ай бұрын
@@jordanolsonm I realized that he did it different from how I do it. He cut all the ground wires to the same length and twisted them together, what I do is I leave one of them longer than all the other ones so when they're twisted together you still have one long one sticking out that you can connect to something
@hollerguy18 ай бұрын
Get that inspected, didja?
@derekboulanger15457 ай бұрын
Fire! That’s some clean work!
@harryko86997 ай бұрын
Nice work! My house here in Texas must have been wired by Helen Keller.
@williambellew7678 ай бұрын
I would try and stabilize that box better.
@mickrhodes-ji8pk8 ай бұрын
The absolute last thing that is is nice and neat all those cable twisted together Jesus
@MoneyManHolmes7 ай бұрын
Are you from Europe? American electrical boxes always look like rats nests!
@lastchance81428 ай бұрын
"Service Loops" are not a thing inside of walls. Code says to secure cable within 12" of the box. Those things will whip around like crazy during a short circuit.
@FestiCatcher7 ай бұрын
12” as the crow flies, service loops aren’t a violation. They generally show you take care in your work as well
@icevariable96007 ай бұрын
Incorrect. 1) If you're going to disagree and say something is a code violation, you better be right. Which you aren't. 2) If you're going to call someone out, you better be able to refer to the code. You didn't, and you just so happen to be wrong. 3) NEC 2020, 2023: 334.30 states "NM sheathed cable shall be supported and secured by staples...at intervals not exceeding 4.5' and within 12" of every cable entry... The cable LENGTH between the cable entry and the closest cable support shall not exceed 18". So, you might want to get a more current up to date NEC book. Be sure to name the code in the future.
@harryko869915 күн бұрын
Helen Keller apparently wired our house.
@jamiemcgavran54058 ай бұрын
No way he is that clean every time.
@josealbertoavalos53953 ай бұрын
Wow, first time I see an electrician doing service loops; excellent!
@eliascurrier13538 ай бұрын
Only ladies make up joints with an impact 💅 box makeup looks good though.
@eagerlawncare37007 ай бұрын
I got fired for taking that much time making up boxes
@robertbaker907 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 you literally have no ideal how long it took him. This is a video so of course it’s slower.
@eagerlawncare37007 ай бұрын
@robertbaker12286 I do know that each box has a manhour value attached to it based on how much time is reasonable to make the connection and make it safe (code) anything else is wasted money
@solomonjohnson327228 күн бұрын
Looks beautiful; I wish all Electricians followed suit
@cfomusic738 ай бұрын
Damn that looks clean AF! Great job
@Robmancan19878 ай бұрын
It's late. You had a rough week and your ready to get home. You forgot to bring a 3 way switch, you finally find one in the truck. You got a little careless with your razor blade because your rushing. It's in that moment you could kiss this man for leaving you service loops.
@ryanjensen25847 ай бұрын
Service loops are for queers
@mattm39017 ай бұрын
From time to time I get careless with my razor blade also. -Gus Fring
@edisont.picard41127 ай бұрын
What? What did you do with your razor that made you glad there is more wire in the wall?
@fritzmiller97926 ай бұрын
Service Loops are ....well I can't say it in here...three letter word.😂😂😂😂 PS I know fellow Electricians that think they are great so it's opinion of the local AHJ that wins the day. Your never going to catch me doing it for several reasons. Edit: razor knifes are a bad choice for stripping cable as well as cutting off the sheathing AFTER stuffing Romex in a box. 💯 a hack move stabbing at it afterwards.
@fritzmiller97926 ай бұрын
@@edisont.picard4112Exactly 🤣
@jerhamilon883721 күн бұрын
One of the guys who trained me use to say that “ if you ask ten different electricians how to do something you get ten different answers” and that’s bc we all have our own way of doing things. But as far as code and what passes it’s national code so that’s what we have to go by for all of us it’s not that complicated. But the one thing the code book does tell you is AHJ has last say. So that can vary from state to state; and some of them are true blue dummies.
@keithmyerscough18617 ай бұрын
Have you not heard of prescribed safe zones?
@petercoffin62518 ай бұрын
The amount of wire wasted on service loops must be staggering. They’re a code violation and very rarely needed.
@BADAZZGAMER8 ай бұрын
It's in the Canadian code to leave loops.
@daleburton17888 ай бұрын
@@BADAZZGAMERas an Alberta electrical inspector please quote me the CEC rule you speak of.
@user2C478 ай бұрын
@@BADAZZGAMERPer the US code, the wire has to be secured within 12 inches, so any loop longer than that is a violation over here.
@reff92038 ай бұрын
When was working in Calgary ,Alberta ,service loops were mandatory
@daleburton17888 ай бұрын
@@reff9203sometimes inspectors will make rules up on how they want to see things. Over my 30 plus years in the trade, I’ve gone to battle a few times with inspectors over misinterpreting the code. Sometimes, rules will not be in the CEC and are in the Provincial code called the Standata. However, there in nothing in the Standata on this. Like I say, most likely just an inspector enforcing how he likes to see things done. If you’re ever in doubt you can call the Safety Codes Council in Edmonton and talk to the head inspectors for the Province. Cheers!!!
@mrindependent18 ай бұрын
The old guys hate service loops I love em Even if no one ever uses them When u need em, u’ll wish u had em
@deang56228 ай бұрын
So what happens as you get older, do you then start to hate service loops?
@waltewhitesPhD8 ай бұрын
@@deang5622 nah we dont hate good ideas.
@Lugnut640528 ай бұрын
I've been renovating old houses for 25 years. The number of times you actually need that extra wire length when replacing a device are once in a rare blue moon. It's a bunch of extra work for very, very little gain. A much more common problem is screw holes stripped out in the box (old metal and fiberglass ones).
@user-jn8dw1bd8q2 ай бұрын
Great workmanship!!
@robprice584 ай бұрын
Finally someone who does the work properly, cable stay within 12 inches of the box, service loops, all grounds bonded together and tails left to go to the individual equipment, and each set of wires labeled for ease of identification in the future. Only thing I don't like is the plastic boxes as they don't provide great cable securment and are flimsy but other than that outstanding job!
@benjurqunov3 ай бұрын
Obviously you don't know about wirenut capacity !
@paulsidebyrne8 ай бұрын
My lord the US electrics are rough as, you boys wouldn't last a day In the UK also may I add the loops are a big no no
@homesteadhaven20108 ай бұрын
They're not allowed everywhere in the US. Plus that box isn't secured right. Where I am at I can't even use that type of wire. 12 AWG is a must.
@charlieleahy9648 ай бұрын
As an Australian electrician, the UK stuff is not great, cables behind the plaster no outlets in the bathroom, 110v in construction sites😅
@paulsidebyrne8 ай бұрын
@charlieleahy964 yet we have the best regulated electrics in the world and what's wrong with 110 on site it's a baby voltage mate
@peters60708 ай бұрын
@@homesteadhaven2010Where do they not allow #14 Romex?
@csf17576 ай бұрын
@@homesteadhaven2010 12 AWG for light switches, not outlets, in residence?
@jesusmanuelmoralesdomingue98668 ай бұрын
Nadie se dio cuenta del error que cometió? Por código no puedes amarrar más de 5 alambres del número 12 con un conector rojo. Debes usar azul.
@donh64165 ай бұрын
This is #14 wire. Not #12. The white color sheathing gives it away.
@dougcorwin30905 ай бұрын
Its called national electrical code not local this has at least 3 violations
@DarkSider6675 ай бұрын
And that's why we invented WAGOs - Watching those wire nuts with a drill gives me the chills
@wesrobertson69358 ай бұрын
You made your instructor proud. A++++ in my book.
@buzztoole47516 ай бұрын
It would be so nice if the average so called pro contractor did it like that. I think they've been trained to cut it off just barely long enough to work with.
@paulandreotto72665 ай бұрын
As a professional i give this a grade of D. Folding the grounds over makes the wirenut grab the loops and not tighten properly on all the strands as well as over stuff the wirenut makinga vary loose connection. Loops are stupid, waist full and yours are longer than code alows 18"fron the last staple to the box. Use the proper crimp connector (i personally don't like crimps but not illegal) or properly sized green wirenuts with the threw hole and individual strands.
@richarde7356 ай бұрын
nice work and it’s always nice to have a little slack for future service / changes!
@rickhawkins2183 күн бұрын
On the stud on the right side is 2 wires under 1 staple. That is illegal in Canada.
@bobadingo8 ай бұрын
That's all fine and dandy but need to secure the box to something!.. .
@Coyote-tc1ww8 ай бұрын
It’s fastened to the stud, pay attention
@mcroley5918 ай бұрын
@@Coyote-tc1wwthe right hand side of the box needs to be secured to the framing.
@Coyote-tc1ww8 ай бұрын
@@mcroley591No it doesn’t
@nolansmokes8 ай бұрын
Why comment on something you have 0 knowledge on?
@tracynation28207 ай бұрын
Super. ALWAYS twist together and trim the ends of the wires before you install the wire nut. I do agree that he should have used a gray wire nut, not a red one, (or use two red nuts or one red and one green w/hole) and that the wires need to be attached to the stud, which can still be done after wiring the box. The people suggesting future repairs would be easier with a Wago connector are correct, but how many times do you expect to disconnect, repair, and reconnect wires in the box? And yes, you do tie all of the ground wires together, while at the same time you leave a separate ground wire sticking out for each switch or outlet. While crimp rings and Wago connectors are legal on the ground wires, I suggest you use wire nuts or solder the wires together. After forty years of wiring, I sleep very well knowing the kind of wiring I have installed will easily last a lifetime. 💙 T.E.N.
@danrichards4964 ай бұрын
I wish the people that built my house, then worked on it over the years, additions, repairs, had taken as much pride in their work as the people making videos on KZfaq do. I wouldn’t have had to tear out two baths, fill ridiculously large air gaps, add insulation, re-wire things, fix plumbing that wasn’t even code when house was built, fix janky plumbing, moisture issues, etc, etc.
@m.creekrenovations7 ай бұрын
Wow so clean and organized, great job 👏
@stehfreejesseah78936 ай бұрын
Oh I do like the service loops, A lot of guys miss this or don’t care but when you’re doing old work you will praise the guy before if he does this.
@joegilbert97313 ай бұрын
Top shelf, it’s the things folks can’t see when it’s all said and done that the craftsman takes home with pride
@sjohnson58138 ай бұрын
Fking beeeautiful bud. This plumber is loving it. Good shit man
@Murphyselectric16 күн бұрын
Looks great I just don’t understand the big Service loop
@Ozymandias863 ай бұрын
Shouldn’t fold the grounds over like that, it compromises the copper on every tail, and then you’re reliant on the wire nut to keep a consistent connection to the grounded switch.
@jeremyhrvtn6 ай бұрын
As a fellow electrician, nice work brother, we’re in this together 👍
@taffinator95858 ай бұрын
Every time I see them twisting up the cables and putting a nut on it makes me twich like f**k
@MojoPupАй бұрын
If I opened up a wall and saw that..I would get a little teary eyed.
@frankherrelljr48413 ай бұрын
The ground wires are supposed to get a Green wire nut by code. I know I have done electrical work for a couple of years.
@diegojones24814 ай бұрын
This looks neat but those big “service loops outside “ the box are wrong. Very neat layout inside the box though
@Austin_1594 ай бұрын
Beautiful work! Beautifully done!
@readheath38604 ай бұрын
I don't put more than two devices per box. That means never using a box larger than two spaces.
@joeyork98914 ай бұрын
Pro tip if you can't slice Just use wagos. The expenses will save on fire and call backs.
@danguglielmo91474 ай бұрын
Looks great inside! "Service loops" look nice but not code compliant. Section 334.30. Within 12" (12" of wire)
@Reaver-Altar2 ай бұрын
The 1.5" of available wire in your 50 year old switchbox: 😏
@kennethallen82364 ай бұрын
NEC stands for NATIONAL electrical code. NM cable is to be secured with 8" of entry to jbox. Wtf are these "service loops" . That should not pass inspection in any jurisdiction.
@tubeonline6296 ай бұрын
This dudes a freaking artist.
@Disc023-ps6le2 ай бұрын
Very neat. What would you do when fault finding in the future? When all the earth and neutrals are twisted together ? 👍🏻
@ixpol7 ай бұрын
Damn the neutrals look like u only strip back about 1/8 from tip 😂