How to Make Up a Three Gang Switch Box ⚡️

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Tennessee Electrician

Tennessee Electrician

11 ай бұрын

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@HeWentThattaway
@HeWentThattaway 7 ай бұрын
I love watching all the electricians from different states argue with each other about what will pass and what won’t.
@Lets_Go_Canes
@Lets_Go_Canes 7 ай бұрын
This is a code fail.
@calvinengelbrecht6708
@calvinengelbrecht6708 7 ай бұрын
Different states?NEC stands for NATIONAL Electric Code.
@HeWentThattaway
@HeWentThattaway 7 ай бұрын
@@calvinengelbrecht6708 and yet, if you read the comments in this and many other videos, you’ll see hundreds of “licensed electricians” claiming that a certain practice is allowed in their state. Also, don’t some states go by a certain year of the NEC?
@edisont.picard4112
@edisont.picard4112 7 ай бұрын
​@@calvinengelbrecht6708The NEC is a document written by a private company. Local inspection authorities can adopt any electrical standard they want, not just the NEC or the latest NEC.
@johnkulpowich5260
@johnkulpowich5260 7 ай бұрын
Get ten electrician in a room get ten different opinions. And who's smarter then the next guy
@matsfreedom
@matsfreedom 8 ай бұрын
There is no shortage of electricians who think that their work is better than the other guy's. It's the nature of the specialty. Keep up the good work.
@robertnusbaum3116
@robertnusbaum3116 8 ай бұрын
R1r2ģ
@deang5622
@deang5622 8 ай бұрын
There is no shortage of electricians that think they are experts on electricity. Then the electrical engineer enters the room and corrects all the KZfaq videos they made...
@localone1597
@localone1597 8 ай бұрын
Exactly. All you ever hear is criticism. There's many ways to do a job but too many think their way is the only and best way, its not.
@johnmulligan9526
@johnmulligan9526 8 ай бұрын
What happens after he dose the grounds.? Sounds like he says do the hots when he's on the white wire. I'm confused.
@niezzer
@niezzer 8 ай бұрын
​@@localone1597his splices are garbage though...
@questioneverything2
@questioneverything2 7 ай бұрын
When I was building, you had to staple the romex within six inches of the box
@tcarable
@tcarable 7 ай бұрын
It's been a while since I've done electrical work, but I'm in Ohio. And it's the same thing here. You have to have a staple if there is no connector with this connector it was twelve inches
@edisont.picard4112
@edisont.picard4112 7 ай бұрын
Code says within 12" if the box has a clamp. 8" for single gang boxes with no clamp.
@johnkulpowich5260
@johnkulpowich5260 7 ай бұрын
Put Sheetrock over it where's it going
@Redbaronn
@Redbaronn 7 ай бұрын
Work of art bro
@user181
@user181 6 ай бұрын
While service loops are a wonderful thing, the next guy who works on this may not know they exist. Furthermore, those service loops are more susceptible to being punctured/cut by a homeowner hanging something on the wall who doesn’t know they’re there.
@hosmanantunez9150
@hosmanantunez9150 7 ай бұрын
That guy worked in low voltage before being an electrician. 😅
@smartchip
@smartchip 6 ай бұрын
elaborate, low voltage in the U.K. is
@mikeyfromsd
@mikeyfromsd 6 ай бұрын
@@smartchip Below 120VAC, usually controls such as 24VDC.
@betz999
@betz999 6 ай бұрын
You assume that because he takes his time and doesn't have the mindset of "cant see it from my house"? I'd take a sparky that's former data over one that's trying to run data. Bunch of gorillas, haha.
@betz999
@betz999 6 ай бұрын
​@@smartchipin the US it's usually anything not related to AC. Mainly talking data, CCTV, access, burg, phones.
@adampindell
@adampindell 6 ай бұрын
​@@smartchip it's the same in the US when you're talking power generation and distribution. Not so much with residential construction.
@garyschultz253
@garyschultz253 6 ай бұрын
Then here come the Drywaller with the Dremal !
@williamhaines7752
@williamhaines7752 2 ай бұрын
If they were good the wires will go undamaged and no boxes will go buried plenty of times I had to take straight edge piece of wood to look for the bulge then measure height of said outlet then poke holes with screw driver or sheet rock saw when you heard the rattle of wires you could then begin cutting to edge till top and bottom of box then left to right then finish cutting out the boxes once height and width was established
@ozz7602
@ozz7602 Ай бұрын
All that intricate fine hand placing of the wires, when I come through with the router I just jam all your wires to the back
@dennismiller9979
@dennismiller9979 Ай бұрын
Worse than that a drunk drywaller with a dremel LOL just saying
@dennismiller9979
@dennismiller9979 Ай бұрын
Worse a drunken drywaller with a dremel... Just saying
@stephenotto2294
@stephenotto2294 8 ай бұрын
Looks like your neuteral Re stripped a little short doesnt look like theres much copper twisted under that wire nut
@bengonzalez6595
@bengonzalez6595 8 ай бұрын
You need 3/4” of cooper
@myemail2005
@myemail2005 8 ай бұрын
​@@bengonzalez6595 Sould everyone imagine the old guy who comments in the plumbing video's saying your comment? 🤪
@thecreasegrease
@thecreasegrease 8 ай бұрын
​@@myemail2005Hey Boi back in my day I would have run you off my job site.
@VortexTheGreat69
@VortexTheGreat69 8 ай бұрын
I thought the same thing
@MrStatic101
@MrStatic101 8 ай бұрын
@@myemail2005”back in my day we left a inch of copper on that neutral, while smoking a pack of camels, or you get off my job site boyyyyy” I do agree with him though those neutrals were too short 🤣
@nhankhuu5643
@nhankhuu5643 8 ай бұрын
Your neutrals are going to come apart. It doesn't hurt to strip them longer than you need, twist all of them together then clip them to length.
@johnkulpowich5260
@johnkulpowich5260 8 ай бұрын
Read the wire nut box no need to twist
@nhankhuu5643
@nhankhuu5643 8 ай бұрын
@@johnkulpowich5260 people like you keep me in business
@johnkulpowich5260
@johnkulpowich5260 8 ай бұрын
@@nhankhuu5643 read the box. U L approve
@gawdzalien2811
@gawdzalien2811 8 ай бұрын
​@@nhankhuu5643i wouldnt call ypu to replace a light bulb
@robertbenavidez7164
@robertbenavidez7164 7 ай бұрын
I usually strip them down and go to work on them!😂😂😂😂
@tycox8704
@tycox8704 6 ай бұрын
Imagine how much more elegant and spacious the box would be if it had buses for the neutral and ground wires, and the switches simply snapped into place like circuit breakers.
@tedwalford7615
@tedwalford7615 6 ай бұрын
Wow; yes! Clearly better. Does it exist?
@tycox8704
@tycox8704 6 ай бұрын
@@tedwalford7615 Only half-ass attempts exist like this one from Leviton: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/htxziKidlrnPhIU.htmlsi=LtIK5DqSbS_qeUoi Leviton’s product still has all of the inherent challenges of the existing approach.
@MineStrongth
@MineStrongth 5 ай бұрын
Imagine how much more expensive, you said?
@Ty-vn3cu
@Ty-vn3cu 5 ай бұрын
Imagine paying an extra $25 for every box in your house 😭
@tycox8704
@tycox8704 5 ай бұрын
@@Ty-vn3cu progress comes with a price. That’s true for anything new. LED lighting was multiple times more expensive when it was introduced. Now, it is a value and a standard after mass adoption. Look at the $3k+ smart circuit panels that are emerging. Before you realize it, they will be comparable in price today’s technology and will be the standard if battery storage evolves.
@stewy1031
@stewy1031 7 ай бұрын
Sheet rock screws just entered the chat😮😮😮
@marcgonzalez5503
@marcgonzalez5503 6 ай бұрын
Hahaha
@KERNFUZED
@KERNFUZED 5 ай бұрын
serivce loop? screw catcher ..that prob fail here in NJ idk,,,,goodluck drill on wire nuts? @@marcgonzalez5503
@LzysGraphics
@LzysGraphics 4 ай бұрын
You do realize loose cables such as the service loop here are way less likely to get damaged compared to wires stapled to the stud or passing through a stud right? It's why there's no restriction in the NEC against service loops besides a max length of 18" from the point of last staple in the 2020 revision. Loose cables in cavities are going to be pushed back at least 3.5" inches before hitting the sheetrock behind it and no drywall installer is using 3.5".
@aaronbuckmiller4728
@aaronbuckmiller4728 Ай бұрын
😅
@DocJeep1
@DocJeep1 8 ай бұрын
Don't need to support the other end of the box? That box would fail in my area; no greenie on grounds, no support on box, no service loops allowed, and no staple within 6" of box. Looks clean, though. ❤
@seabass5325
@seabass5325 7 ай бұрын
You don't need a staple within 6" of a box with internal clamps. Typically single gang boxes are the only ones that fall under that code. Greeneville isn't a code either, they are preference.
@militaryav8r
@militaryav8r 6 ай бұрын
I'm not a professional electrician, I'm just a curious guy... but why do they not allow service loops in your area?? That seems like it would be super helpful to the homeowner or subsequent electricians over the years.
@seabass5325
@seabass5325 6 ай бұрын
@militaryav8r the easiest answer is that the wires aren't supported within the first foot of the box with a clamp. The other reason is....because the inspector said so. Unfortunately JHA has final say and can supercede anything the code calls for. Remember, the NEC is National bare standards. The municipality can add or remove what the deem fit. Always got to the code official and ask for his pet peeves when you go into a new town. Makes life easier. As any electrician will tell you, inspectors have a bit of a god complex....
@marvinwerth9421
@marvinwerth9421 5 ай бұрын
I always liked to include the inspector opinion at rough-in. They love to feel important....always went smooth at final!
@MaxBeline-vc4fg
@MaxBeline-vc4fg 5 ай бұрын
Support? Come on man,,,
@theodoreboone9807
@theodoreboone9807 8 ай бұрын
Should fold the wires not roll the wires into the box so when the drywallers come with their rotozip and they nick the wire, it nick's it where you still have plenty of wire
@johnkulpowich5260
@johnkulpowich5260 7 ай бұрын
Don't be cheap use a deeper box it pays off
@fritzmiller9792
@fritzmiller9792 6 ай бұрын
🎯👍
@ozz7602
@ozz7602 Ай бұрын
​@@johnkulpowich5260what you mean use a bigger box, it's got to fit in between the 2 by 4, that's interior wall
@David-eh9yv
@David-eh9yv 29 күн бұрын
Nick and Phil, my favorite drywallers
@chazman4461
@chazman4461 6 ай бұрын
Our inspectors would not approve that. I like it though.
@stephenferguson7446
@stephenferguson7446 8 ай бұрын
I think I speak for all sparks in the uk … what the FUCK .. how is that an acceptable way to terminate cables especially the earths 😂
@lassaut6794
@lassaut6794 8 ай бұрын
Could you elaborate how you brits do it differently?
@Redact63Lluks
@Redact63Lluks 8 ай бұрын
Do you not know the US runs 110-120?
@BS-ix7qp
@BS-ix7qp 8 ай бұрын
​@@lassaut6794we put sleeving on earth conductor and into a wago connector. Make it easier when testing/fault finding. I don't know enough about the regs in US. In Europe we mainly have 230V whereas US it is 110V. That may be why safety is more relaxed? Sorry I don't know much more than that but hope it helps 👍 from a UK electrician
@sibrown
@sibrown 8 ай бұрын
Speaking as another UK spark, twisting any cables together makes it such a pain to make changes at a later date, also if trying to fault find. Say for instance someone put a screw or nail through a cable and you had to pull a new cable through, you’ll have to untwist all those cables so identify which cable it is. We will sleeve each earth and put into a wago connector, makes the whole job easier for the next guy or yourself if called back. And let’s be honest, do you really enjoy twisting those all together?
@customsolutions7167
@customsolutions7167 8 ай бұрын
US and UK do it differently..😂
@donwilliams1284
@donwilliams1284 8 ай бұрын
Looks real nice but it's a code violation cable must be stabled within 12 in of box code
@FestiCatcher
@FestiCatcher 7 ай бұрын
Not a violation, it just has to be secured within 12 inches as the crow flies from the staple to the hole in the box. As long as the wire isn’t pinched by sheetrockers you wont be called on it unless you or someone else made an enemy out of the inspector
@icevariable9600
@icevariable9600 7 ай бұрын
Incorrect. #1) If you're going to call someone out, you better be able to refer to the code. You didn't, and you just so happen to be wrong. 2) NEC 2017, 2020, 2023: 334.30 states "NM sheathed cable shall be supported and secured by staples...at intervals not exceeding 4.5' and within 12" of every cable entry... The cable LENGTH between the cable entry and the closest cable support shall not exceed 18". Actually, the 18" rule was added in the 2020 NEC. So, you might want to get a more current up to date book. Be sure to name the code in the future.
@JMjayesim
@JMjayesim 7 ай бұрын
​@icevariable9600 this the most accurate reply to this comment
@awesome6486
@awesome6486 6 ай бұрын
@@JMjayesim no shit really? was it because he posted the code regarding this subject? thanks
@fritzmiller9792
@fritzmiller9792 6 ай бұрын
​@@icevariable9600 I now see the Code cited and can't dispute it BUT those service loops are definitely over 18". Personally I find the premise for doing this verses the potential for defeating the purpose of a staple as well as a ridiculous waste of wire to be a bad idea.
@yevonishenko8188
@yevonishenko8188 7 ай бұрын
Those labels will be helpful after texture and paint is applied
@1337farm
@1337farm 8 ай бұрын
My inspectors would not pass this
@icevariable9600
@icevariable9600 7 ай бұрын
Nothing here is a code violation. So, he should. Unless they're using 2017 code and are unaware of the updates in 2020. You just need to have the service loops 18" or less in length.
@1337farm
@1337farm 7 ай бұрын
Yes we are still on 2017 code in tn
@icevariable9600
@icevariable9600 7 ай бұрын
@@1337farm 2020 is more restrictive than 2017. 2017 didn’t have a limit in cable length. There is nothing in 2017 that limits cable length when connecting to a box. 2020 put in the limit, which is 18”. There is no reason to fail this work, as long as the staple is within 12” of the furthest cable entry.
@mikeiver
@mikeiver 7 ай бұрын
Fail here in NY as well. All that excess wire above the box, fail! 9 x 14ga conductors in a red wire nut, fail, NM not secured within 6" of the box, fail! Nope, not gonna fly.
@icevariable9600
@icevariable9600 7 ай бұрын
@@mikeiver Seriously? Now name the code section. - there is no 6” code on cable length. - there is no code on cable length in 2017 NEC. 344.30 - all that 2017 says is the strap has to be 12” from entry point of cable. - 2017 NEC has no restriction on cable length. - 2020 & 2023 has the 18” cable length restriction. Please learn to read and know your code.
@dougmansfieldiii2120
@dougmansfieldiii2120 7 ай бұрын
"fastened within 12" of termination point"
@griznatle
@griznatle 6 ай бұрын
It is though. Notice the red clip
@16vSciroccoboi
@16vSciroccoboi 6 ай бұрын
This is code compliant. It's ugly, but it's code compliant.
@jasonf9736
@jasonf9736 2 ай бұрын
The 12 inches is measured along the sheath of the cable so this is a violation. The red clip is much further than 12 inches from where the box clamp is.
@Michaelebills
@Michaelebills 8 ай бұрын
I love it when electricians make service loops... It makes future upgrades so much easier!
@CorenergyElectrical-xe8ew
@CorenergyElectrical-xe8ew 8 ай бұрын
Those are a code violation.. needs to be strapped 12 inches from entering the box..
@Michaelebills
@Michaelebills 8 ай бұрын
@CorenergyElectrical-xe8ew My statement is not about how the electrician did the job... It was that having Service Loops is a nice thing. Take up your criticisms with the guy who did the job.
@TheDarthJesus
@TheDarthJesus 8 ай бұрын
@@CorenergyElectrical-xe8ew Thats 12 inches from the box; which his staple is. You dont need to measure the loop as well.
@CorenergyElectrical-xe8ew
@CorenergyElectrical-xe8ew 8 ай бұрын
@TheDarthJesus so by your interpretation of code.. 8 can have a full wall cavity of romex loose in the wall.. loops of wire as long as there is a staple 12" from the box... think about that for a second 🤔 😅
@TheDarthJesus
@TheDarthJesus 8 ай бұрын
@@CorenergyElectrical-xe8ew Technically yes, but that would probably fail due to poor workmanship.
@StevenGamesWHC
@StevenGamesWHC 7 ай бұрын
I like deep boxes with bare minimum length I like to help electricians after me appreciate their own work more
@billsquires853
@billsquires853 7 ай бұрын
That might pass inspection in your state but not in Fayette county 😂
@garymiller3194
@garymiller3194 8 ай бұрын
Violation NEC 334-24 bending radius romex
@andycopeland7051
@andycopeland7051 6 ай бұрын
Niiiice
@martinskamla6789
@martinskamla6789 7 ай бұрын
Amerian wiring is Crazy to me
@johnkulpowich5260
@johnkulpowich5260 7 ай бұрын
That's because your not a cry baby
@manletopia4801
@manletopia4801 6 ай бұрын
its nice having a hair dryer max out an entire circuit in your house
@johnkulpowich5260
@johnkulpowich5260 6 ай бұрын
@@manletopia4801 in a new house that shouldn't happen. So what's the problem
@manletopia4801
@manletopia4801 6 ай бұрын
@@johnkulpowich5260 not everyone is a 1965 boomer with a 401K
@justme5384
@justme5384 6 ай бұрын
​@@johnkulpowich5260*you're
@christophertstone
@christophertstone 2 ай бұрын
Beautiful work. Really wish more elechickens did work like this. Can really tell, you've been the guy who had to fix someone else's work.
@UlySambrano
@UlySambrano 7 ай бұрын
This is why everyone jokes electrical takes forever, they're making up boxes this way 😂
@vincentsharp2360
@vincentsharp2360 8 ай бұрын
Service loops can burn your house down, seen it personally. I agree with the method and appreciate it, but insulators and drywallers don't care about your wire. 541.47 won't save you on the supports either. Overall very clean work
@deang5622
@deang5622 8 ай бұрын
It's just a weird thing you Americans do. We don't do it in my country. It's not required.
@ABLT81118
@ABLT81118 8 ай бұрын
I don't do service loops because it does not allow me to meet my code requirements for staples/strapping outside the box.
@TheCabledawg1
@TheCabledawg1 8 ай бұрын
I gotta ask. How can a service loop cause a fire?
@eds6569
@eds6569 8 ай бұрын
​@@ABLT81118yeah, it's awesome when ya have extra length to pull later on but I'd never do loops like that on new builds if it's being inspected later.
@kbr1887
@kbr1887 8 ай бұрын
​@@TheCabledawg1gives drywaller a lot more surface area of wire to hit with a screw.
@court2379
@court2379 8 ай бұрын
Now if we could just teach them to cut the wire to the right length to begin with and save the 10ft cut off as waste in just this box...
@LenayLovesMe
@LenayLovesMe 7 ай бұрын
You mean the pension plan c? Why would they do that
@Chad-em2fg
@Chad-em2fg 5 ай бұрын
@@LenayLovesMethe good Lord knows you ain’t lying !!!!!!’🤥
@tomrogers9467
@tomrogers9467 4 ай бұрын
Three bucks a pound at the scrapyard. Beer money.
@court2379
@court2379 4 ай бұрын
@@VideoViewer33512 Except it's hundreds of dollars in offcuts, not 10, and requires negligible additional effort. Mostly just caring enough to pay attention where it gets cut.
@Gunter_Custom
@Gunter_Custom 4 ай бұрын
Mine are never more than the required amount in the box...😂
@dougcorwin3090
@dougcorwin3090 8 ай бұрын
Tail out grounds to switches
@industrialpalletworx3548
@industrialpalletworx3548 6 ай бұрын
I was looking for this comment. Took awhile. I didn't see any ground tails for each switch.
@sunkmanitutankaowaci2733
@sunkmanitutankaowaci2733 6 ай бұрын
They’re there
@MHSDankusPotatus
@MHSDankusPotatus 7 ай бұрын
Fun fact: service loops are a code violation. Looks great though 👍
@BlitzHack
@BlitzHack 7 ай бұрын
Exactly and this guy loves to pick on other peoples work.
@MHSDankusPotatus
@MHSDankusPotatus 7 ай бұрын
@@icze4r up to an extent. I'd be hard pressed to find many jurisdictions that are that far back and that revised on code to allow that out right.
@pgrunt429
@pgrunt429 7 ай бұрын
​@@icze4ris called the NATIONAL Electrical Code
@blitzkrueg07
@blitzkrueg07 7 ай бұрын
Yup need to be anchored within 8" of the box
@MHSDankusPotatus
@MHSDankusPotatus 7 ай бұрын
@@pgrunt429 yes but jurisdictions can omit things technically but definitely not to this extent
@josecisnero6156
@josecisnero6156 8 ай бұрын
NEC article 100- read it.. we have to follow manufacturers recommendation, if you read the information on the wirenuts container you’ll find useful information, too many conductor for that size wire nut…..
@GY6SCOOTERCHAT
@GY6SCOOTERCHAT 5 ай бұрын
Are you saying he didn’t do it right?
@Noruzenchi86
@Noruzenchi86 3 ай бұрын
@@GY6SCOOTERCHAT They're saying that the conductors in the middle of the clump are going to fall out and take the rest with them. Nuts have decent edge grip but nonexistent core grip.
@mycaddigo
@mycaddigo 6 ай бұрын
Wish my boxes looked even half that good.
@lfcfan1789
@lfcfan1789 7 ай бұрын
I was fortunate to work with multiple electricans with 40 plus in the trade. One of them once said to me "always remember this simple phrase... function over form"
@andycopeland7051
@andycopeland7051 6 ай бұрын
Function over form I say it to everyone i teach.
@esserking6735
@esserking6735 8 ай бұрын
I appreciate your attention to details!
@cda4662
@cda4662 11 ай бұрын
Romex shall stapled within 12 inches out of the box, and then every four feet, the loop you are leaving ( I understand why you are leaving it) but doesn’t the inspector say anything about the lack of the first staple
@tennessee_electrician
@tennessee_electrician 11 ай бұрын
It’s 18 inches of slack allowed per 2020 NEC (334.30)
@HBSuccess
@HBSuccess 8 ай бұрын
@@tennessee_electrician That is true but it’s still wasteful and unnecessary.
@lassaut6794
@lassaut6794 8 ай бұрын
​@@HBSuccessyou have way too much trust in your crackhead drywallers.
@richardpatterson4312
@richardpatterson4312 8 ай бұрын
​@@HBSuccessswitches go bad and burn wire up, it's nice to have a bit you can pull to redo. If the crap wasn't crap made in China, then I'd agree with you
@MrFriday83
@MrFriday83 8 ай бұрын
​@@richardpatterson4312 That looks to be about 12-18 extra inches. How many boxes do you think a this house will go through 😬
@kevanboyd7323
@kevanboyd7323 8 ай бұрын
no sleeving on ground!! mandatory in uk
@timgerk3262
@timgerk3262 6 ай бұрын
People keep saying this. Why? In case of fault you want that hot wire to short to ground asap, so the circuit breaker can operate. Sleeved ground means more floating hots, my POV.
@jovanies9751
@jovanies9751 5 ай бұрын
I appreciate electricians. All the hard work put in.
@jamesmckay956
@jamesmckay956 8 ай бұрын
Use deep boxes - on everything. Make them up neat , no need for a service loop . Ever
@johnkulpowich5260
@johnkulpowich5260 8 ай бұрын
Today you have to use deep box's. Dimmers. GFI. Timers. Other electronics
@MoneyManHolmes
@MoneyManHolmes 7 ай бұрын
3.5 inch deep boxes are amazing. But the work in this video is clean AF and I have zero complaints.
@icevariable9600
@icevariable9600 7 ай бұрын
You must be new here. Almost sounds like you've never had to move a box. Crazy, I know. But in a couple years of experience, you'll come around to having to move a box here and there.
@MrPhilllyD
@MrPhilllyD 6 ай бұрын
Except for those pesky code requirements in certain jurisdictions
@andycopeland7051
@andycopeland7051 6 ай бұрын
So long as you don't cut the wires retardedly short the way I know most of you do
@cameronlovell3735
@cameronlovell3735 6 ай бұрын
Think carefully before choosing to share neutrals. Might be alright in this case, but not always.
@davidskidmore3442
@davidskidmore3442 5 ай бұрын
I use a lot of smart switches that need the neutrals, so this would be a pita.
@briancasey2938
@briancasey2938 6 ай бұрын
You have to secure the romex within 12inches of the box and are allowed 18 inches of free wire before termination in the box
@richardhoner7842
@richardhoner7842 5 ай бұрын
Is the 18 inches per NEC?
@joedaddy3606
@joedaddy3606 5 ай бұрын
If u have to put the staple 12" from box and are allowed 18" after staple before termination in box code also says u must have at least 6" of wire coming out of box doesn't that make 18" of wire so a service loop would add more than 18" and that would be a violation that is why where I'm an electrician at we would fail everytime for a service loop
@rmm5t
@rmm5t 8 ай бұрын
I do DIY electrical for friends and family. I’ve opened hundreds of old work boxes. I wish some of them looked like this.
@dallas5374
@dallas5374 8 ай бұрын
If you’re not a licensed and insured electrician you should not be doing electrical period.
@helomech1973
@helomech1973 7 ай бұрын
Yeah the cost of wire is not coming out his check
@youngestincharge1998
@youngestincharge1998 8 ай бұрын
Your work has inspired me to be a better electrician
@danielt6810
@danielt6810 8 ай бұрын
Wow very nice ... especially the service loops! I did a renovation of my house build in the 60s. So many short cables!
@TODEEP17
@TODEEP17 8 ай бұрын
They made Pass-through ground wire-nuts
@icevariable9600
@icevariable9600 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, but only one ground can pass through.
@timb9212
@timb9212 8 ай бұрын
Lol @ the wire nut drill attachment
@Richardhead1222
@Richardhead1222 7 ай бұрын
That thing is awesome in commercial when you've got a hundred boxes to make up lmao
@cafe80s
@cafe80s 7 ай бұрын
I want one!
@michaelgleason4791
@michaelgleason4791 7 ай бұрын
On an impact wrench no less.
@MWorsa
@MWorsa 6 ай бұрын
The wire nut driver on the back of an Ideal screwdriver though is awesome 😃
@sergeypuzhlyakov8983
@sergeypuzhlyakov8983 6 ай бұрын
Dottie CX1. I have one and love it!
@BeauxMac-ix7lp
@BeauxMac-ix7lp 8 ай бұрын
Awe you use a drill for your wire nuts how cute 😂
@Qthekat1984
@Qthekat1984 5 ай бұрын
I was going to say the same thing, but I found your comment 😁 ❤
@joshuaglass1827
@joshuaglass1827 5 ай бұрын
Dudes saving himself from carpal tunnel but yeah keep being the tough guy.
@Qthekat1984
@Qthekat1984 5 ай бұрын
@@joshuaglass1827 🤣🤣🤣
@legalize420
@legalize420 4 ай бұрын
It's just cute that people still use wire nuts. Dinosaurs! Switch to the new wago lever nuts. Ditch those old cap nuts. And ditch the hack electricians who don't use wago.
@legalize420
@legalize420 4 ай бұрын
I never want to see an old boomer dinosaur cap nut ever again. 😂
@edwardmcdermott9948
@edwardmcdermott9948 6 ай бұрын
competition is good for our industry!!!! but we all know that my work is by far bar none the best!!!! 😂
@dougcorwin3090
@dougcorwin3090 7 ай бұрын
In my area romex must be stapled with in 6 inches of the box
@andycopeland7051
@andycopeland7051 6 ай бұрын
They just tell you that because you're too dumb to eyeball 12" so they tell you 6 to be safe
@xCALIMADRIDISTAx
@xCALIMADRIDISTAx 8 ай бұрын
I’ll never forget someone opened up a panel I made up and asked me where the service loops were
@satelng
@satelng 8 ай бұрын
Please don't twist the neutrals like tgat. Such a pain to pull apart
@MendelStein
@MendelStein 8 ай бұрын
Bro you shouldn't ever need to pull them apart
@jordanolsonm
@jordanolsonm 8 ай бұрын
@@MendelStein most WiFi switches need a neutral connection. Every switch I have replaced in my house has been such a pain to access the neutral because they were twisted together like this.
@MendelStein
@MendelStein 8 ай бұрын
@@jordanolsonm I realized that he did it different from how I do it. He cut all the ground wires to the same length and twisted them together, what I do is I leave one of them longer than all the other ones so when they're twisted together you still have one long one sticking out that you can connect to something
@hollerguy1
@hollerguy1 8 ай бұрын
Get that inspected, didja?
@derekboulanger1545
@derekboulanger1545 7 ай бұрын
Fire! That’s some clean work!
@harryko8699
@harryko8699 7 ай бұрын
Nice work! My house here in Texas must have been wired by Helen Keller.
@williambellew767
@williambellew767 8 ай бұрын
I would try and stabilize that box better.
@mickrhodes-ji8pk
@mickrhodes-ji8pk 8 ай бұрын
The absolute last thing that is is nice and neat all those cable twisted together Jesus
@MoneyManHolmes
@MoneyManHolmes 7 ай бұрын
Are you from Europe? American electrical boxes always look like rats nests!
@lastchance8142
@lastchance8142 8 ай бұрын
"Service Loops" are not a thing inside of walls. Code says to secure cable within 12" of the box. Those things will whip around like crazy during a short circuit.
@FestiCatcher
@FestiCatcher 7 ай бұрын
12” as the crow flies, service loops aren’t a violation. They generally show you take care in your work as well
@icevariable9600
@icevariable9600 7 ай бұрын
Incorrect. 1) If you're going to disagree and say something is a code violation, you better be right. Which you aren't. 2) If you're going to call someone out, you better be able to refer to the code. You didn't, and you just so happen to be wrong. 3) NEC 2020, 2023: 334.30 states "NM sheathed cable shall be supported and secured by staples...at intervals not exceeding 4.5' and within 12" of every cable entry... The cable LENGTH between the cable entry and the closest cable support shall not exceed 18". So, you might want to get a more current up to date NEC book. Be sure to name the code in the future.
@harryko8699
@harryko8699 15 күн бұрын
Helen Keller apparently wired our house.
@jamiemcgavran5405
@jamiemcgavran5405 8 ай бұрын
No way he is that clean every time.
@josealbertoavalos5395
@josealbertoavalos5395 3 ай бұрын
Wow, first time I see an electrician doing service loops; excellent!
@eliascurrier1353
@eliascurrier1353 8 ай бұрын
Only ladies make up joints with an impact 💅 box makeup looks good though.
@eagerlawncare3700
@eagerlawncare3700 7 ай бұрын
I got fired for taking that much time making up boxes
@robertbaker90
@robertbaker90 7 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 you literally have no ideal how long it took him. This is a video so of course it’s slower.
@eagerlawncare3700
@eagerlawncare3700 7 ай бұрын
@robertbaker12286 I do know that each box has a manhour value attached to it based on how much time is reasonable to make the connection and make it safe (code) anything else is wasted money
@solomonjohnson3272
@solomonjohnson3272 28 күн бұрын
Looks beautiful; I wish all Electricians followed suit
@cfomusic73
@cfomusic73 8 ай бұрын
Damn that looks clean AF! Great job
@Robmancan1987
@Robmancan1987 8 ай бұрын
It's late. You had a rough week and your ready to get home. You forgot to bring a 3 way switch, you finally find one in the truck. You got a little careless with your razor blade because your rushing. It's in that moment you could kiss this man for leaving you service loops.
@ryanjensen2584
@ryanjensen2584 7 ай бұрын
Service loops are for queers
@mattm3901
@mattm3901 7 ай бұрын
From time to time I get careless with my razor blade also. -Gus Fring
@edisont.picard4112
@edisont.picard4112 7 ай бұрын
What? What did you do with your razor that made you glad there is more wire in the wall?
@fritzmiller9792
@fritzmiller9792 6 ай бұрын
Service Loops are ....well I can't say it in here...three letter word.😂😂😂😂 PS I know fellow Electricians that think they are great so it's opinion of the local AHJ that wins the day. Your never going to catch me doing it for several reasons. Edit: razor knifes are a bad choice for stripping cable as well as cutting off the sheathing AFTER stuffing Romex in a box. 💯 a hack move stabbing at it afterwards.
@fritzmiller9792
@fritzmiller9792 6 ай бұрын
​@@edisont.picard4112Exactly 🤣
@jerhamilon8837
@jerhamilon8837 21 күн бұрын
One of the guys who trained me use to say that “ if you ask ten different electricians how to do something you get ten different answers” and that’s bc we all have our own way of doing things. But as far as code and what passes it’s national code so that’s what we have to go by for all of us it’s not that complicated. But the one thing the code book does tell you is AHJ has last say. So that can vary from state to state; and some of them are true blue dummies.
@keithmyerscough1861
@keithmyerscough1861 7 ай бұрын
Have you not heard of prescribed safe zones?
@petercoffin6251
@petercoffin6251 8 ай бұрын
The amount of wire wasted on service loops must be staggering. They’re a code violation and very rarely needed.
@BADAZZGAMER
@BADAZZGAMER 8 ай бұрын
It's in the Canadian code to leave loops.
@daleburton1788
@daleburton1788 8 ай бұрын
@@BADAZZGAMERas an Alberta electrical inspector please quote me the CEC rule you speak of.
@user2C47
@user2C47 8 ай бұрын
​@@BADAZZGAMERPer the US code, the wire has to be secured within 12 inches, so any loop longer than that is a violation over here.
@reff9203
@reff9203 8 ай бұрын
When was working in Calgary ,Alberta ,service loops were mandatory
@daleburton1788
@daleburton1788 8 ай бұрын
@@reff9203sometimes inspectors will make rules up on how they want to see things. Over my 30 plus years in the trade, I’ve gone to battle a few times with inspectors over misinterpreting the code. Sometimes, rules will not be in the CEC and are in the Provincial code called the Standata. However, there in nothing in the Standata on this. Like I say, most likely just an inspector enforcing how he likes to see things done. If you’re ever in doubt you can call the Safety Codes Council in Edmonton and talk to the head inspectors for the Province. Cheers!!!
@mrindependent1
@mrindependent1 8 ай бұрын
The old guys hate service loops I love em Even if no one ever uses them When u need em, u’ll wish u had em
@deang5622
@deang5622 8 ай бұрын
So what happens as you get older, do you then start to hate service loops?
@waltewhitesPhD
@waltewhitesPhD 8 ай бұрын
@@deang5622 nah we dont hate good ideas.
@Lugnut64052
@Lugnut64052 8 ай бұрын
I've been renovating old houses for 25 years. The number of times you actually need that extra wire length when replacing a device are once in a rare blue moon. It's a bunch of extra work for very, very little gain. A much more common problem is screw holes stripped out in the box (old metal and fiberglass ones).
@user-jn8dw1bd8q
@user-jn8dw1bd8q 2 ай бұрын
Great workmanship!!
@robprice58
@robprice58 4 ай бұрын
Finally someone who does the work properly, cable stay within 12 inches of the box, service loops, all grounds bonded together and tails left to go to the individual equipment, and each set of wires labeled for ease of identification in the future. Only thing I don't like is the plastic boxes as they don't provide great cable securment and are flimsy but other than that outstanding job!
@benjurqunov
@benjurqunov 3 ай бұрын
Obviously you don't know about wirenut capacity !
@paulsidebyrne
@paulsidebyrne 8 ай бұрын
My lord the US electrics are rough as, you boys wouldn't last a day In the UK also may I add the loops are a big no no
@homesteadhaven2010
@homesteadhaven2010 8 ай бұрын
They're not allowed everywhere in the US. Plus that box isn't secured right. Where I am at I can't even use that type of wire. 12 AWG is a must.
@charlieleahy964
@charlieleahy964 8 ай бұрын
As an Australian electrician, the UK stuff is not great, cables behind the plaster no outlets in the bathroom, 110v in construction sites😅
@paulsidebyrne
@paulsidebyrne 8 ай бұрын
@charlieleahy964 yet we have the best regulated electrics in the world and what's wrong with 110 on site it's a baby voltage mate
@peters6070
@peters6070 8 ай бұрын
​@@homesteadhaven2010Where do they not allow #14 Romex?
@csf1757
@csf1757 6 ай бұрын
@@homesteadhaven2010 12 AWG for light switches, not outlets, in residence?
@jesusmanuelmoralesdomingue9866
@jesusmanuelmoralesdomingue9866 8 ай бұрын
Nadie se dio cuenta del error que cometió? Por código no puedes amarrar más de 5 alambres del número 12 con un conector rojo. Debes usar azul.
@donh6416
@donh6416 5 ай бұрын
This is #14 wire. Not #12. The white color sheathing gives it away.
@dougcorwin3090
@dougcorwin3090 5 ай бұрын
Its called national electrical code not local this has at least 3 violations
@DarkSider667
@DarkSider667 5 ай бұрын
And that's why we invented WAGOs - Watching those wire nuts with a drill gives me the chills
@wesrobertson6935
@wesrobertson6935 8 ай бұрын
You made your instructor proud. A++++ in my book.
@buzztoole4751
@buzztoole4751 6 ай бұрын
It would be so nice if the average so called pro contractor did it like that. I think they've been trained to cut it off just barely long enough to work with.
@paulandreotto7266
@paulandreotto7266 5 ай бұрын
As a professional i give this a grade of D. Folding the grounds over makes the wirenut grab the loops and not tighten properly on all the strands as well as over stuff the wirenut makinga vary loose connection. Loops are stupid, waist full and yours are longer than code alows 18"fron the last staple to the box. Use the proper crimp connector (i personally don't like crimps but not illegal) or properly sized green wirenuts with the threw hole and individual strands.
@richarde735
@richarde735 6 ай бұрын
nice work and it’s always nice to have a little slack for future service / changes!
@rickhawkins218
@rickhawkins218 3 күн бұрын
On the stud on the right side is 2 wires under 1 staple. That is illegal in Canada.
@bobadingo
@bobadingo 8 ай бұрын
That's all fine and dandy but need to secure the box to something!.. .
@Coyote-tc1ww
@Coyote-tc1ww 8 ай бұрын
It’s fastened to the stud, pay attention
@mcroley591
@mcroley591 8 ай бұрын
@@Coyote-tc1wwthe right hand side of the box needs to be secured to the framing.
@Coyote-tc1ww
@Coyote-tc1ww 8 ай бұрын
@@mcroley591No it doesn’t
@nolansmokes
@nolansmokes 8 ай бұрын
Why comment on something you have 0 knowledge on?
@tracynation2820
@tracynation2820 7 ай бұрын
Super. ALWAYS twist together and trim the ends of the wires before you install the wire nut. I do agree that he should have used a gray wire nut, not a red one, (or use two red nuts or one red and one green w/hole) and that the wires need to be attached to the stud, which can still be done after wiring the box. The people suggesting future repairs would be easier with a Wago connector are correct, but how many times do you expect to disconnect, repair, and reconnect wires in the box? And yes, you do tie all of the ground wires together, while at the same time you leave a separate ground wire sticking out for each switch or outlet. While crimp rings and Wago connectors are legal on the ground wires, I suggest you use wire nuts or solder the wires together. After forty years of wiring, I sleep very well knowing the kind of wiring I have installed will easily last a lifetime. 💙 T.E.N.
@danrichards496
@danrichards496 4 ай бұрын
I wish the people that built my house, then worked on it over the years, additions, repairs, had taken as much pride in their work as the people making videos on KZfaq do. I wouldn’t have had to tear out two baths, fill ridiculously large air gaps, add insulation, re-wire things, fix plumbing that wasn’t even code when house was built, fix janky plumbing, moisture issues, etc, etc.
@m.creekrenovations
@m.creekrenovations 7 ай бұрын
Wow so clean and organized, great job 👏
@stehfreejesseah7893
@stehfreejesseah7893 6 ай бұрын
Oh I do like the service loops, A lot of guys miss this or don’t care but when you’re doing old work you will praise the guy before if he does this.
@joegilbert9731
@joegilbert9731 3 ай бұрын
Top shelf, it’s the things folks can’t see when it’s all said and done that the craftsman takes home with pride
@sjohnson5813
@sjohnson5813 8 ай бұрын
Fking beeeautiful bud. This plumber is loving it. Good shit man
@Murphyselectric
@Murphyselectric 16 күн бұрын
Looks great I just don’t understand the big Service loop
@Ozymandias86
@Ozymandias86 3 ай бұрын
Shouldn’t fold the grounds over like that, it compromises the copper on every tail, and then you’re reliant on the wire nut to keep a consistent connection to the grounded switch.
@jeremyhrvtn
@jeremyhrvtn 6 ай бұрын
As a fellow electrician, nice work brother, we’re in this together 👍
@taffinator9585
@taffinator9585 8 ай бұрын
Every time I see them twisting up the cables and putting a nut on it makes me twich like f**k
@MojoPup
@MojoPup Ай бұрын
If I opened up a wall and saw that..I would get a little teary eyed.
@frankherrelljr4841
@frankherrelljr4841 3 ай бұрын
The ground wires are supposed to get a Green wire nut by code. I know I have done electrical work for a couple of years.
@diegojones2481
@diegojones2481 4 ай бұрын
This looks neat but those big “service loops outside “ the box are wrong. Very neat layout inside the box though
@Austin_159
@Austin_159 4 ай бұрын
Beautiful work! Beautifully done!
@readheath3860
@readheath3860 4 ай бұрын
I don't put more than two devices per box. That means never using a box larger than two spaces.
@joeyork9891
@joeyork9891 4 ай бұрын
Pro tip if you can't slice Just use wagos. The expenses will save on fire and call backs.
@danguglielmo9147
@danguglielmo9147 4 ай бұрын
Looks great inside! "Service loops" look nice but not code compliant. Section 334.30. Within 12" (12" of wire)
@Reaver-Altar
@Reaver-Altar 2 ай бұрын
The 1.5" of available wire in your 50 year old switchbox: 😏
@kennethallen8236
@kennethallen8236 4 ай бұрын
NEC stands for NATIONAL electrical code. NM cable is to be secured with 8" of entry to jbox. Wtf are these "service loops" . That should not pass inspection in any jurisdiction.
@tubeonline629
@tubeonline629 6 ай бұрын
This dudes a freaking artist.
@Disc023-ps6le
@Disc023-ps6le 2 ай бұрын
Very neat. What would you do when fault finding in the future? When all the earth and neutrals are twisted together ? 👍🏻
@ixpol
@ixpol 7 ай бұрын
Damn the neutrals look like u only strip back about 1/8 from tip 😂
@Jbear73
@Jbear73 6 ай бұрын
The most satisfying video I’ve seen this week. 🤘🏾
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