This video shows how to make your own auto body patch panels for rust repair. Clearly explains and offers logical tips on how to measure, lay out, cut, and form the sheet metal. / @lakesideautobody
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@ferguscolman3543 ай бұрын
Another nice informative video - a Natural communicator and teacher ! Thank-you for all your good work !
@LakesideAutobody3 ай бұрын
Thanks Fergus - I appreciate your kind words - have a great weekend :)
@jraposo911 Жыл бұрын
You’re the trailblazer of these KZfaq autobody repair channel. Good to see another video. Always learn something 😊 JR
@LakesideAutobody Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words Star Lite - I appreciate that. Enjoy the rest of the week my friend :)
@justinshields42164 жыл бұрын
Very informative series about patch panels! I have been practicing my butt welds for patches. I put a very slight beveled edge (18guage or thicker) on the outside mating edge with the cut slag left on the backside. Putting a bevel on the outside keeps the weld low profile while still penetrating cleanly saves grinding consumables as well. This has helped tremendously with thru penetration (provided your gap is no more than a 16th") if you cannot get the mig gun on the backside of the panel. Afterwards.. a light brush of 2k epoxy primer on the backside aids in providing rust protection.. i like your method of cooling your panels with a damp rag too. That is my "go to" way to do things now.!
@LakesideAutobody4 жыл бұрын
Very cool. That's good to hear. I like the video about this that Eastwood made too. :)
@67fairlane124 жыл бұрын
Face melting intro!!!!! Love it! great work and thanks again. I have some door work to do to my 67 Fairlane. I am in the process of replacing the entire floor pan. Keep the videos coming, They are great for a beginner like me.
@67fairlane124 жыл бұрын
Also, What is your guitar rig?
@LakesideAutobody4 жыл бұрын
@@67fairlane12 Washburn KC70V with a Crate MX20RC practice amp. It's got reverb and chorus so it gives it a bit of a cool sound. I've always wanted to try Fender or Marshall amps but too much $
@ChipsAndSparksGarage4 жыл бұрын
Nice quick repair!
@steverynearson19604 жыл бұрын
Great work, wish you would have shown how to make the contour
@LakesideAutobody4 жыл бұрын
If you are talking about the contour on the ends - After clamping it on the bottom and tacking it on the top, the contour of the patch was set - then by cutting those reliefs in the metal, all I did was tap those little sections over, weld the "cuts" up, and tap it around a bit to get it right on. I will do more videos on this topic though and show that process. Good suggestion :)
@feralfreebirds4 жыл бұрын
ace.....i just checked out all your channel...sooo much i can learn for my mamouth task repairing my van up !!thanks
@LakesideAutobody4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you enjoy the channel - you came to the right place. Ask any ? you want - I answer them each day :)
@claybird81844 жыл бұрын
You make it look so easy! LOL! Thank you for your great videos!
@LakesideAutobody4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome - glad you liked it - have a great weekend :)
@jeffreyoswald95544 жыл бұрын
I really like your videos. They are easy to use.
@LakesideAutobody4 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them :)
@m2useinu4 жыл бұрын
I love your work, your style of work ,very practical. You are exceptionally good at education. You should have an affiliate link so I can just buy the tools you're using
@LakesideAutobody4 жыл бұрын
When ever you want to know exactly what I was using in a video feel free to ask. Many of the tools I use though are pretty old and are no longer available but I think I can guide you to a good substitute. Jerry
@moparnut62864 жыл бұрын
Always enjoy watching you work stay safe.
@LakesideAutobody4 жыл бұрын
Thanks - you too - I think we're almost out of the woods - just my thoughts - Jerry
@CHASINGMUSCLECARS4 жыл бұрын
you always make it look easy. nice video.
@LakesideAutobody4 жыл бұрын
Thanks - have a great week :)
@husky12324 жыл бұрын
Thank you Brian very informative
@LakesideAutobody4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome
@UndergroundPaintKing4 жыл бұрын
Great video Jerry as always 👍🏾
@LakesideAutobody4 жыл бұрын
Thanks UPK - have a good week
@UndergroundPaintKing4 жыл бұрын
Lakeside Autobody thanks Jerry...you have a good week too and stay safe
@MrJohncraciun4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the awesome videos!! I recently found some rust the fire wall my 2007 2500hd GMC Sierra. The rust is a result of Battery acid overflow. I neutralized the rust with baking soda paste and rinse. There is a battery support bracket spot welded into the fire wall. At the bottom of this bracket is where the rust begins- there is rust between the bracket and fire wall. How do I remove the bracket to cure the rust without messing is the fire wall? God bless, John.
@LakesideAutobody4 жыл бұрын
Maybe this video could help you - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ntF1hrl91t_UfJc.html The teeth break easy though. There are other types too. God Bless you too :)
@bluelightguy14 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great videos
@LakesideAutobody4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome
@frankm85334 жыл бұрын
Great stuff. I need to get back to a garage so I do this stuff again.
@LakesideAutobody4 жыл бұрын
Thanks - Yep, get back out there :)
@CTmoog4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video man! This is very helpful! Subscribed! =)
@LakesideAutobody4 жыл бұрын
Thanks - glad you liked it and thanks for subscribing - Jerry
@promufdvr4 жыл бұрын
Nice clean work
@LakesideAutobody4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@fidelcordova9374 Жыл бұрын
Thanks great video perfectly explain.
@LakesideAutobody Жыл бұрын
You're welcome Fidel :)
@ups33574 жыл бұрын
Great idea with the tape thanks
@LakesideAutobody4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome
@Anthony_in_Bloomington_Indiana4 жыл бұрын
For a beginner, is it better to go with fiberglass, or a patch panel like this one? My car is a 2004 Toyota Corolla. It has 2 spots of rust, on the rocker panels near the rear wheels. They are both about 4 inches wide by 3 inches high. It's surface rust, not all the way through. I'm good with my hands; so I'm okay with doing detail work.
@15farcry3 жыл бұрын
Where do you get your sheet metal? And what gouge do you normally use for rust repair? Thankyou for making awesome tutorial videos. Really enjoying them.
@LakesideAutobody3 жыл бұрын
I get it from Alro Steel and use 20-22 gauge for rust repair. Have a good weekend :)
@MrTheHillfolk Жыл бұрын
Haha I've been doing this forever, I get metal anywhere. Metal supply places , even an old car door or hood, look around you'd be surprised where you can find some metal. I've got a stack of file cabinet organizers that are about .080 thick ,great stuff for floor patches. You can't even lift the milk crate that's full of them. I might not be great at the finish bodywork,but I like cutting out rust and putting metal back.
@mback120003 жыл бұрын
Nice work and video! Sorry if I missed it, but no weld through primer? If those seams are raw metal the rust will come right back. And painting inside the door afterwards won't get into those folded over seams and sandwich lap joints... but the water will.
@LakesideAutobody3 жыл бұрын
Many manufacturers like Honda a recommending no weld through as it affects the weld pool and burns off any way which I completely agree with. It's best to treat the finished repair afterwards: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/br6RjaWqnK2nZ3U.html Hope that helps a bit :)
@siliquaesid7033 жыл бұрын
Cutting with shears, you even get a free spring you can use for something 🤪🤪
@FJ40Brian4 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate you sharing your autobody knowledge. I need to make some patch panels and I'm curious on the thickness of the sheet metal you use?? Thanks, Brian in Oregon
@LakesideAutobody4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome - glad you enjoy them - take care.
@FJ40Brian4 жыл бұрын
What is the metal thickness of the sheet metal?
@liambyrne5914 жыл бұрын
@@FJ40Brian 1mm for body work would be good most car Now a day's are about 0.8mm, floor would be at least 1mm
@LakesideAutobody4 жыл бұрын
@@FJ40Brian That was 20 gauge. I like stuff around .030. Anything from 20 to 22 gauge is good. It's up to the individual though. Thinner stuff you can work with a little easier. Thicker stuff obviously lasts longer. Jerry
@benjamingiroux59774 жыл бұрын
@Lakeside Autobody what kind of steel do you use? Cold rolled,hot ect?
@bobd.fletcherjr4912 Жыл бұрын
I really like your videos👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🙋♂️🙋♂️
@LakesideAutobody Жыл бұрын
Thanks BDF - I appreciate your comment :)
@TheDarkred104 жыл бұрын
Great channel! Glad I came across it,just sub.👍
@LakesideAutobody4 жыл бұрын
Thanks - glad you like it
@grf19524 жыл бұрын
great vid! I was wondering, are you self taught, or did you. get professional training. sometime in your life! all your vids are very educational! thanks and keep them coming!!!!
@LakesideAutobody4 жыл бұрын
My dad was a body man - then he had me out in the garage painting cars from like 13-18 then I got a job a professional shop or jobs and learned from the guys and bosses. Finally, got certified to teach it (MOCAC) from Ferris State in MI
@RIPbiker134 жыл бұрын
I'm just here for the great advice... I still have rust repair to do and I like your videos. Great info. I'm not sure if I missed it. What guage metal did you use for that panel? Throwing out a wild guess at 18.
@LakesideAutobody4 жыл бұрын
That is 20 gauge A1008 cold rolled sheet from Alro Steel. You can use anything from 20 gauge (.035") to 22 gauge (.030"). 40's 50's cars were thicker - not sure what gauge though.
@RIPbiker134 жыл бұрын
@@LakesideAutobody Gotcha. Well, specifically, I'm interested in my truck which is a 69 and that metal you were using formed a lot easier than mine has. My motorcycle uses 16 so I'm guessing mine in 18 then. That 20 looks super nice to work with.
@LakesideAutobody4 жыл бұрын
@@RIPbiker13 I've always used around that thickness on everything and never had a problem. Here's a couple of videos that may help you decide. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/br6RjaWqnK2nZ3U.html or kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aNVjaseJkpPbYH0.html One more thing, If you can measure the thickness of the metal on your 69 truck, I can tell you the gauge. Match it up w/ a feeler gauge if you don't have a micrometer. Jerry
@hectorcartagena7634Ай бұрын
Yes thank you appreciate it 👍👍👍👍
@LakesideAutobodyАй бұрын
No problem 👍
@john70174 жыл бұрын
Great video! Are you using 22 gauge aluminized steel?
@LakesideAutobody4 жыл бұрын
That's 20 gauge A1008 cold rolled carbon sheet metal from Alro Steel. I like 20-22 gauge sheet metal. Thinner is easier to work with - thicker - i suppose would last longer. 20 = .035 & 22 = .030 - so they're actually not that diff. Jerry
@almierz46043 жыл бұрын
JERRY WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT USING AUTO & TRUCK ROOFs. AS PATCH PANELS CUT UP FOR REPAIRS. GOOD. VIDEOS
@LakesideAutobody3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely - that's what we used a lot in shops I worked at besides door bottoms that were bought. Really the only reason I buy sheet metal now is because I don't have a supply of scrap fenders, hoods, quarters, etc.
@michaelstreck09253 жыл бұрын
What's the best way to match the contour of the outer top portion of a truck bed that has ridges? My 1988 GMC K1500 got crushed in by a tree and I'd love to fix it without buying a whole bed or bedside.
@LakesideAutobody3 жыл бұрын
Here's a video that may help: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qbmklciAtM3ddGw.html Watch this playlist for more on bodyline too: kzfaq.info/sun/PLOP9eoG14-I_dTwNiWP5XJCitguFJzZEZ
@michaelstreck09253 жыл бұрын
@@LakesideAutobody Awesome! Thank you!!!! Love your channel!
@LakesideAutobody3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelstreck0925 You're welcome - glad you enjoy the videos. Thanks for the support Michael.
@ThaLou-zv1xu9 ай бұрын
Are the side edges of the panel just bent and folded over, then welded?
@LakesideAutobody9 ай бұрын
Yes - at about a 45 degree angle. Would really help to have a good tool of some kind for that task :)
@johnmcminn9455 Жыл бұрын
gotta love that Marshall 2x12 combo Amp
@rbelang83312 жыл бұрын
Good... How thick a sheet metal do you use for modern car body repair? 22, 20 or 18 gauge? Thanks!
@LakesideAutobody2 жыл бұрын
20 (.035) or 22 (.030)
@rbelang83312 жыл бұрын
@@LakesideAutobody Thanks!
@jimwildasin44644 жыл бұрын
what gauge metal do you use to make your panels ?
@LakesideAutobody4 жыл бұрын
Anything from 20-22 gauge -.030-.035 inches. That stuff was A1008 cold rolled sheet from Alro Steel - 20 gauge. Most cars and trucks fall in that range. Old cars 40s and 50s probably way thicker.
@ironsharp147518 күн бұрын
What universal gage metal is best to work with?
@LakesideAutobody18 күн бұрын
20 or 22 gauge. That's the go to when it comes to patches and patch panels :)
@elian2224 жыл бұрын
Another great vid thank you! How about maybe one day doing a similar video where you make a little patch panel for a rust hole on the lower rear quarter panel behind a rear tire where you have to wrap it around the inner pinch weld? Rust spots like these are very common on older 60's/70's American muscle cars but for many of these vehicles you cannot buy the little patch panel only, you have to instead purchase the whole $500 rear quarter panel instead. It's rough out here :-)
@LakesideAutobody4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely - Do you mean - like - right behind the rear tire where the mud splashes up or right above the tire? I've done a lot of both in the 80's - Thanks for watching and glad you like the videos.
@davidg57044 жыл бұрын
@@LakesideAutobody I have rust that needs fixing on driver rear wheel but close to fuel fill neck. Wheel arch really. I have wheel arch panel but can I weld there (fuel door is close) or use 3m panel bond? Just scribed. Excellent content. Thank you.
@johnsutter14974 жыл бұрын
What type of welder do you have?
@LakesideAutobody4 жыл бұрын
Miller Millermatic 90 115v - I actually welded an eye of a leaf spring after it broke right off. Drove on it for years after the repair. It's very powerful for being so small and portable.
@Phrozen716 Жыл бұрын
Hello What gauge of Metal did you use ?
@LakesideAutobody Жыл бұрын
That's 20 gauge or .035"
@BigBarnV12 жыл бұрын
Have you done the in door part?
@LakesideAutobody2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure what you mean by that. Could you ask in a different way - sorry :)
@BigBarnV12 жыл бұрын
@@LakesideAutobody the indoor where the door card is? Below that where the outter panel wraps around the pinch holding both pieces together. From the corner of the door about a quarter of that is bad. I can find outter panel for my dodge but no inner bottom pieces.
@LakesideAutobody2 жыл бұрын
@@BigBarnV1 Got it. Here's a video that may help with that - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b5idpZN0m5jYoWQ.html
@nick7.3983 жыл бұрын
How thick of metal do you use
@LakesideAutobody3 жыл бұрын
That metal is 20 gauge but 22 gauge is fine too. 22 gauge is around .030" and 20 gauge is about .035"
@timcoffin27904 жыл бұрын
Did I just witness the invention of the Tape Measure. Sorry couldn't resist.
@LakesideAutobody4 жыл бұрын
A tape measure on the edge of a door. Hmmm... Could come in handy on a fisherman's car.
@805ROADKING4 жыл бұрын
Nicely done Bud!! The rest of that door is pretty rough eh!!☺
@LakesideAutobody4 жыл бұрын
Yes it is :)
@dennisgray75092 ай бұрын
I tried to do this on a Chevy square body truck door. I warped it terribly
@LakesideAutobody2 ай бұрын
Take it one weld at a time and alternate. You don't really have to weld solid either :)
@dennisgray75092 ай бұрын
@@LakesideAutobody ok because I did weld it solid but went back each time between welds. I’ll try it again. Thanybyou
@paulethmenchaca8303Ай бұрын
Thickness of the metal sheet n wielder use
@LakesideAutobodyАй бұрын
20 gauge. 22 gauge can be used too.
@patrickchristie824 жыл бұрын
I love that you don’t have thousands of dollars in tools like press break or fancy 45 degree pliers
@LakesideAutobody4 жыл бұрын
Thanks - I planned on having a bunch of cool stuff when I was 18 but......
@patrickchristie824 жыл бұрын
Lakeside Autobody you may have covered it somewhere else but can you please run down your sanding grit steps right from removing old paint to applying new paint. I assume 60 grit, filler, cheese grater, 60 grit,80, primer, 220,320,400, paint?
@LakesideAutobody4 жыл бұрын
@@patrickchristie82 Sure: 40 grit fiber resin disc on a grinder to remove paint and prepare metal for welding or filler. 40 grit to sand filler then finish it with 80 to remove those deep 40's. Feather edge the paint - start with 80 sometimes to knock it down a bit then 120 and scuff the shinny paint that may get primer over spray. Block with 80 big giant areas or 120 smaller - finish it to 120 though. Prime again wet sand w/ 400 or dry sand w 220-320 - then paint _ Hope that helps - Jerry
@patrickchristie824 жыл бұрын
Lakeside Autobody thank you very much
@LakesideAutobody4 жыл бұрын
@@patrickchristie82 You're welcome - any ?'s feel free. Jerry