How to Master a Song Start to Finish: Every Effect Explained

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✅ Part 1: Mastering Prep: • Before Mastering I Do ...
✅ Mastering Sessions Playlist: • Pro Mastering Chain RE...
✅ Our Full Mixing & Mastering Playlist ➤ • Mixing On Tiny Speaker...
✅ Review of Neumann KH420 Monitors: • Which Monitors Did I C...
✅ My Studio Design - Acoustics Deep Dive: • Building a Mixing & Ma...
✅ My Mastering Sessions Playlist: • Pro Mastering Chain RE...
✅ My Full Mixing & Mastering Playlist ➤ • Mixing On Tiny Speaker...
✅ David Gnozzi @MixbuTV video on intermodulation: • STOP Using Clippers If...
✅ Nicholas Di Lorenzo @Panorama_Mastering Tone Projects Unisum video: • Why Is Every Mastering...
✅ The Science of Clipping: • The Science of Clippin...
✅ Improve Your Mix Visually with Voxengo SPAN: • MIXING HACK | How to I...
In this video I reveal a full mastering chain, going into a deep dive covering each and every plugin / effect as well as the best plugins for mastering. I discuss why I placed the plugins in this order in the chain, why I use these specific effects, and all the detailed mastering settings. We cover clipping in Gold Clip, soft clipping vs hard clipping, EQ & dynamic EQ, de-essing, mid-side effects, how to find sibilance, intermodulation issues, how to saturate a master right, mastering compression settings, a comparison of 2 limiters, and how to set up a limiter for your final master. Then I show how to send the master to the client using a simple service called Samply.
★ SKIP TO SOMETHIN’ ★
0:00 Intro
0:46 Control Room Studio Tour
4:20 A/B Comparison of the Mix vs Master
5:42 The Mastering Chain - How to Clip the Master with Gold Clip
9:48 How to EQ the Master - FabFilter Pro-Q3 Dynamic EQ
13:11 De-Essing the Master
14:38 How I Find Sibilance
15:47 Intermodulation - Be Careful!
16:44 How to Saturate a Master Right
23:11 How to Add Brightness & Air without Harshness
24:58 Mastering Compression Settings
29:47 Oversampling Settings in Compressors
31.28 Comparing Mastering Limiters
34:00 Mastering Limiter Settings
41:08 Exporting & Delivering the Master
42:26 Outro
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@warpacademy
@warpacademy Ай бұрын
If you missed part 1, check it out here: Mastering Prep: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ruClnaSZqbzLZqs.html Here are the videos I recommend watching next: ✅ Mastering Sessions Playlist: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o7KmobWD1bfXfmw.html&pp=gAQBiAQB ✅ Our Full Mixing & Mastering Playlist ➤ kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y-B3icZprqyRl6s.html&pp=gAQBiAQB ✅ Review of Neumann KH420 Monitors: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/arCCdMVjtL3OgJs.html ✅ My Studio Design - Acoustics Deep Dive: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a7yiepV8xKuboX0.html ✅ My Mastering Sessions Playlist: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o7KmobWD1bfXfmw.html&pp=gAQBiAQB ✅ My Full Mixing & Mastering Playlist ➤ kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y-B3icZprqyRl6s.html&pp=gAQBiAQB ✅ David Gnozzi @MixbuTV video on intermodulation: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ZuCEe8yknJfOin0.html ✅ Nicholas Di Lorenzo @Panorama_Mastering Tone Projects Unisum video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jcekjNKiurezZJ8.html& ✅ The Science of Clipping: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a9lxoJp-yNjPcWQ.html ✅ Improve Your Mix Visually with Voxengo SPAN: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rbmZraun36mYiZs.html
@kwameeyiah
@kwameeyiah Ай бұрын
Ah another mastering video, let me click through timestamps and get over it quickly. Ends up watching the entire 45min video. Amazing work Drew. You bring very unique and fresh perspectives to mastering and audio in general. Keep up the great work!👍🏿.
@warpacademy
@warpacademy Ай бұрын
Thanks very much! Yeah there are a ton of mastering videos out there, and I definitely want to be covering new ground, or at least offering some insights that people haven't necessarily heard before. Each master is different too, requiring you to adapt to the song. Thanks for watching!
@fftunes
@fftunes Ай бұрын
holy ... i wouldn't even have realized it was that long if you hadn't mentioned it 😂
@warpacademy
@warpacademy Ай бұрын
I'm stoked that people have the attention span to stay focused and interested for deep dive videos like this. There are so many people only into Reels and Shorts now and I just can't get myself to convey useful information in that limited timeframe. I'm a deep dive guy. Thanks for watching and seeing it through!
@GooZe...
@GooZe... Ай бұрын
What a chill video. Learned quite lot. thank you so much :)
@warpacademy
@warpacademy Ай бұрын
Thanks! My pleasure. Subscribe and stay in touch!
@gomahome
@gomahome Ай бұрын
Thanks a lot. This is another level. Really helps to understand mastering.
@warpacademy
@warpacademy Ай бұрын
Thanks very much! Glad you enjoyed this one.
@We_Run_Up_Hills
@We_Run_Up_Hills Ай бұрын
Could we get an with an edm song?? Like something in the -3lufs range? Curious how the technique would change
@warpacademy
@warpacademy Ай бұрын
Hey hey. For sure. I mainly master loud electronic bass music. Everything changes. The techniques are quite different, at least in the mixing. Here's a video you can watch: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j9aSiZN6s9asl5c.html
@johnheuer6540
@johnheuer6540 Ай бұрын
I just found this channel. Amazing walkthrough! You work with great precision, very solid.
@warpacademy
@warpacademy Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoy it! Thanks for the visit and the comment. Cheers!
@namedisclosed
@namedisclosed 29 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video! Would love to see the long format in a dance floor cantered production
@warpacademy
@warpacademy 29 күн бұрын
You got it! Coming soon.
@kevinkearney3836
@kevinkearney3836 26 күн бұрын
Limitless for the win. Would love to see a detailed breakdown on that one, it’s a beast but you need to understand it.
@warpacademy
@warpacademy 26 күн бұрын
Ah yes. It's a big one to wrap your head around. I've got a pretty good handle on the advanced parameters at this point, but it took me quite a while. I'll note down your idea to do a dedicated Limitless video. Cheers and thanks for being a subscriber.
@kevinkearney3836
@kevinkearney3836 26 күн бұрын
@@warpacademy thanks, there’s really no great deep dive videos on Limitless!
@warpacademy
@warpacademy 26 күн бұрын
Okay, good to know. I'd be happy to do one sometime.
@ryancole3462
@ryancole3462 Ай бұрын
Thanks for this mate! Really intricate, detailed and explained very well, really enjoyed and found very helpful. Its amazing how such tiny moves add up to huge differences
@warpacademy
@warpacademy Ай бұрын
Hey Ryan. This was a fun video to make. I love the deep dive stuff. And yes, many small moves add up to a bigger end result improvement. It’s called “the aggregation of marginal gains”. Look that up if you’re interested. There’s a great James Clear blog post about that from his book Atomic Habits.
@ryancole3462
@ryancole3462 Ай бұрын
@@warpacademy Crazy i got recommended this book twice in one day. Thanks a lot Vespers
@warpacademy
@warpacademy Ай бұрын
It's an amazing book. It has a big impact on my work and personal life.
@user-gg6kc2ls6k
@user-gg6kc2ls6k Ай бұрын
هذا الرجل له فضل كبير فى تعليمى بالتوزيع الموسيقى من أول تنصيب الstudio monitors وهذه القناة كانت ملجأى الوحيد فى كل شئ يتعلق بالموسيقى ببساطة اذا كان ناشر الفيديو هى قناة warp academy فاعلم انك فى المكان الذى لن يجعلك تائه أو تحتاج إلى شئ بعده شكرا لهذه القناة وشكرا لهذا الرجل الفاضل الذى أتابعه من سنوات ❤
@warpacademy
@warpacademy Ай бұрын
Thanks very much for the kind words.
@MrMatheus933
@MrMatheus933 Ай бұрын
This was a great informative video! Thanks! I would love to watch your process with a EDM song aiming to get a louder master
@warpacademy
@warpacademy Ай бұрын
For sure. Look at the mastering sessions playlist on my channel. You’ll see one there. Cheers!
@emmanuelyambayamba8513
@emmanuelyambayamba8513 Ай бұрын
wow this is excellent work
@warpacademy
@warpacademy Ай бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@machinemademan
@machinemademan Ай бұрын
something about how you teach doesnt make me feel so anxious and overwhelmed
@warpacademy
@warpacademy Ай бұрын
Glad to hear that. I’ve certainly struggled lots with feeling overwhelmed with all there is to learn at times so I can understand. I try to break things down into smaller and simpler steps and really explain why I’m doing things. Thanks for the visit and the comment.
@lacrymoboy
@lacrymoboy Ай бұрын
Pfff, I'm sorry to write that but… you are definitively the best! I wrote that in the past and I think I'll write this in the futur. Great job again. I'm scared to be used too😁. And yes: a video about oversampling/"quality" should be great 🙏🏼
@warpacademy
@warpacademy Ай бұрын
Thanks for kind words. All the best with your music! And stay tuned on the channel.
@reflexsoundz
@reflexsoundz Ай бұрын
I thought I was the only one who did that...the power broke for the lights ..I tape them to the pole stand . By the way you have a lovely home. Love the nature infused minimalist style..it's classic.. your control room is 🔥🔥🔥
@warpacademy
@warpacademy Ай бұрын
Thanks very much! I’m so grateful to live here and work from home with the studio on site. Cheers!
@gigilagardere
@gigilagardere Ай бұрын
very nice video, I liked the way how you explained every step. Like Monk says, here is the thing; I have a bunch of limiters...Pro L2, Oxford, WEISS, from Plugin Alliance, from iZotope, from Waves a few, Newflanged, SSL X-Limit, Chandler Zener Limiter, TC Electronic (wow, now I realize how many I have)...and I had my eyes on the DMG one too, for the last year. Now, if I'm going to buy it, it will be all thanks to you...and I'ma gonna "hate" you for this...haha. Keep doing these awesome videos, you just won another subscriber.
@warpacademy
@warpacademy Ай бұрын
Thanks for subscribing. Yeah it’s easy to accumulate a bunch of limiters (or plugins in general) and if they don’t add something unique to the tool set then what’s the point? I think the DMG really does offer something other limiters don’t. Cheers!
@Mishael_Agyei-Boamah
@Mishael_Agyei-Boamah Ай бұрын
Phenomenal video
@warpacademy
@warpacademy Ай бұрын
Thanks mate!
@goodvibesvince
@goodvibesvince Ай бұрын
I can’t imagine making this video and using this track as the reference.
@warpacademy
@warpacademy Ай бұрын
Really? Why is that?
@cook-music
@cook-music Ай бұрын
On phone limitless felt sharp, it was a good first pick
@77channel90
@77channel90 16 күн бұрын
awesome
@warpacademy
@warpacademy 15 күн бұрын
Cheers!
@jamespingel8730
@jamespingel8730 Ай бұрын
Great video. I liked the Limitless more for limiting, I listened with my eyes closed when you started a/b ing the limiters and every time the guitar dug in with Pro L2 there was a noticeable grab by the limiter that I thought was a glitch as you were transitioning between limiters, but it was just Pro L2 squashing that in a way I didn't like. Limitless was more open and transparent in this case. Also listening on Audeze LCD-X's here, so maybe something about the Audeze drivers is just picking up something Pro L2 always does that doesn't show up on other systems.
@warpacademy
@warpacademy Ай бұрын
Thanks for the insights James. Yeah, I agree with you and noticed that on multiple headphones and speakers. It's not just you. Pro-L2 grabs stuff that Limitless doesn't fuss with. Partially because it's a single band limiter. Sometimes I like what it does. Always good to AB. Cheers!
@Leoguerrero86
@Leoguerrero86 Ай бұрын
I've always felt that black box was extremly hard on any material but now that i understand the density parameter everything make sense. Thanks man !!
@warpacademy
@warpacademy Ай бұрын
Hey Leo. For sure. When I first got it, I tended to push things too hard myself. Then I learned it at a deeper level and started being more gentle (at least on masters) and I really dig it now. That density control is a genius feature.
@Georgetoro
@Georgetoro Ай бұрын
You make an amazing job. Υou are very meticulous with everything you do and that is very good. Every video you provide to us is very informative. (Details make the difference) I really appreciate what you are doing. Thanks, my repsect
@warpacademy
@warpacademy Ай бұрын
Thank you very much!
@ahmadkhalid7382
@ahmadkhalid7382 Ай бұрын
Awesome video
@warpacademy
@warpacademy Ай бұрын
Thanks for the visit
@StereotacticMusic
@StereotacticMusic Ай бұрын
I do like DMG on this track better, there is a clarity in the mid range + more depth and side. Very nice song and a very good tutorial about mastering, specially the Black Box, very nice, thanks.
@warpacademy
@warpacademy Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing that. I agree the DMG sounds more open on the side channel. In the final version we went with the DMG. Glad you enjoyed this one and thanks for the kind words.
@Nikogigineishvili
@Nikogigineishvili 25 күн бұрын
Great video! Love when you are nerd level 10 😂 please more
@warpacademy
@warpacademy 25 күн бұрын
That's the plan! Thanks.
@flyoverfredusa
@flyoverfredusa Ай бұрын
yes Vespers, top shizzle again man
@warpacademy
@warpacademy Ай бұрын
Thanks! I appreciate you being a subscriber. Stay in touch.
@bighousemusic628
@bighousemusic628 Ай бұрын
YES BREDD THANKS A LOT IVE USE SATURATION IN MY MIX AND MASTERING ASWELL BUT IN MY MASTERING ITS SOO SUBTLE THAT YOU CAN HARDLY NOTICE IT MY MAIN PLUGINS IS FROM ACOUSTICA AUDIO MY SATURATOR IS ACOUSTICA AUDIO JAM MY COMPRESSOR ACOUSTICA AUDIO TIGER SINCE THOSE IS HARDWARE CLONE MY LIMITER OZONE MAXIMIZER
@warpacademy
@warpacademy Ай бұрын
Those are some good tools to work with. All the best.
@dylanjackson1054
@dylanjackson1054 Ай бұрын
question about the saturation issue? you said the issue was mainly with low end. would using fab filter saturns multiband saturation be a better plugin to saturate on a master and avoid nasty intermodulation or would you still advise against it?
@warpacademy
@warpacademy Ай бұрын
Hey hey. Good question. Did you end up watching the MixbusTV video on intermodulation I linked in the description? Definitely watch that. It does produce muck in the low end but that’s not all it affects. It will affect the whole frequency range on complex material like a master. And no I’m not a fan of Saturn on a master in multiband. It can work in mid side as well but I don’t like multiband saturation on a master. Higher tones can create much lower intermodulation. I may be more inclined to use Wavesfactory Spectre. But in general I much prefer the Black Box or maybe the Acustica Diamond Dynamic Saturator although it has a coding error with Ableton Live that I’m waiting for them to fix.
@dylanjackson1054
@dylanjackson1054 Ай бұрын
@@warpacademy fantastic! Thank you for your time explaining that. I’ll watch David’s video right now!
@warpacademy
@warpacademy Ай бұрын
Sounds good. Enjoy!
@macmoll
@macmoll Ай бұрын
Limitless felt just a bit more open but Pro L2 felt just slightly heftier and more focused in the bass. I’m listening on a pair of Soundcore Library 3 Pro Bluetooth headphones. The Pro L2 sounding less “open” may be related to your Channel Linking settings.
@warpacademy
@warpacademy Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing! And Id say I agree with you. If I opt to use Pro-L2 it’s usually because I prefer the sound of the low end. Regarding channel linking I always test different settings and compare. Les’s channel linking will mean a wider sound as I’m sure you know. When I test the limiters I sent them identically as much as possible (IE Limitless is multiband and you cannot simulate that setting in Pro-L2). Cheers!
@hakangurdol
@hakangurdol Ай бұрын
Thank you for the knowledge, is the zoom is your main sound interface?
@warpacademy
@warpacademy Ай бұрын
My pleasure. My audio interface is an Apogee Element 24. Cheers!
@hakangurdol
@hakangurdol Ай бұрын
@@warpacademy Thank you and Cheers🙏🏽
@warpacademy
@warpacademy Ай бұрын
The Element is discontinued now, unfortunately. The factory in China that made the chips burned down or something. But in general I really like Apogee interfaces.
@hakangurdol
@hakangurdol Ай бұрын
@@warpacademy Yes i searched it for the second hand here in Turkey it's about 450💰.
@beavertown666
@beavertown666 Ай бұрын
Nice room! Do you plan on adding outboard gear?
@warpacademy
@warpacademy Ай бұрын
Thanks. And no I don’t plan to use any outboard gear. I work on primarily electronic music and it doesn’t benefit IMO from analog processing. I keep it all ITB.
@beavertown666
@beavertown666 Ай бұрын
@@warpacademy Ah ok that makes sense
@Rolanoid
@Rolanoid Ай бұрын
What's your view on dither? I only used to dither when down sampling but recently read that you should dither even when staying at the same sample rate because if there is processing then there is truncation.
@warpacademy
@warpacademy Ай бұрын
Hey hey. Sampling rate and dither actually have nothing to do with each other. Dither is used when changing bit depth. I treat this kind of thing the same way I treat aliasing. If I don't hear it, I don't try and "fix" it. Also, you should never dither more than once. You would only ever apply in the final stage of mastering. This is not the final stage in mastering. It's just prep. To hear it from the mouths of the experts, I will quote a section about dithering called "Myths and Facts" from the FabFilter Pro-L2 manual: "Myths and facts Theoretically, dithering the best way to retain as much resolution as possible when quantizing your audio. However, in the real world, dithering often has little to no audible effect. Here are a few things to keep in mind: Although loudness normalization is becoming more and more common, much of today's music is still mastered at quite loud (if not ridiculously loud) average levels, leaving very little dynamics in the final result. This already masks the small level of distortion due to quantization, so dithering probably won't have any audible effect. A lot of audio recordings already have a relatively high noise floor, due to the use of microphones, amplifiers, analog outboard, mixing consoles etc. In that case, dithering will have no beneficial effect at all; it will just increase the existing noise floor. Dithering should only be used as the final stage of audio processing/mastering. With any further processing, like gain changes, applying effects, or converting to yet another bit depth, the effects of dithering will be lost. If your host offers a post-gain effect insert slot on the master channel, use this slot for FabFilter Pro-L 2 when dithering is enabled. Dithering more than once doesn't make any sense. It will just increase the overall noise level in your audio. When mastering for lossy formats as AAC/MP3, dithering doesn't make much sense."
@Rolanoid
@Rolanoid Ай бұрын
@@warpacademy Thanks for the detailed reply and info. Interesting to hear FabFilter's take on it. I hadn't used dither for years since the 16bit CD days and only ever did apply it last but recently looked into again after coming across the comment I mentioned. Thanks for the great videos and for sharing your knowledge and expertise so patiently.
@warpacademy
@warpacademy Ай бұрын
My pleasure. Happy to help. Cheers!
@hexpro112
@hexpro112 Ай бұрын
I'm also using a clipper at the beginning, but a lot of people were upset that it's not good to put it at the beginning in the chain :)
@warpacademy
@warpacademy Ай бұрын
Hey hey. Putting a clipper first in chain makes complete sense and it’s something I do too. But only after I run this RX manual gaining process to take care of stray peaks in RX. See my last video on that. It’s linked in the description.
@warpacademy
@warpacademy Ай бұрын
Also, when you say “people say it’s not good to put a clipper first” I would ask you what people? Are they engineers? Do they have any legit professional experience? And do they back up their comments with any facts or research? Usually comments like that are from novices who don’t actually do this type of work and their comments are based on faulty logic or assumptions that are incorrect.
@cook-music
@cook-music Ай бұрын
Thoughts on standard clip?
@warpacademy
@warpacademy Ай бұрын
Hey hey. A lot of people like it. It's certainly a pro-spec clipper. I own it, and I'll be honest, I don't like it and have never gotten on with it. Not because it doesn't sound good; it's the interface and workflow in it. To me, it's not well thought out and I feel like it gets in my way. Ryan Schwabe, who makes Gold Clip, is a mix and mastering engineer. He's also a genius when it comes to interface design and workflow. Once I started using Gold Clip, I never looked back. It's such a joy to use, it's immediate, and is best in class IMO. I still have Standard Clip in my plugin library, but I can't really see myself using it for anything other than testing and demos for KZfaq. Cheers!
@MohammedMehdiTBER
@MohammedMehdiTBER Ай бұрын
I just wonder why some songs on Deezer are extremely loud yet still without distortion nor clipping nor red signal on volume meter that I had to turn down the volume on it to 30% or loudness normalized it, such as: Ketchup mania - Your World. The first time I listened to it, I was about to lose my ears, even though I have AutoEq set up systemwide and replay gain on the music player. I feel like It is a mystery. I also I would like as a Metal songs producer if you can teach me how to emulate Sascha Paeth's mastering on Masters Of Ceremony - Signs of Wings. It is obviously huge and impressive in both dynamic range and loudness, and you can easily see that by just looking at the waveform of the track: “Masters Of Ceremony - Signs of Wings”
@warpacademy
@warpacademy Ай бұрын
Good observations. It's no mystery. Loudness metering systems like LUFS or RMS are imperfect and error prone approximations of how humans perceive loudness. They are far from perfect, and they are quite easily fooled actually. When you engineer a mix in a certain way, you can have the perception of loudness that exceeds what a LUFS meter will read. It's not trickery, it's just physics, and a lot of people don't know the techniques to achieve clean loudness. Thanks for the references. I'll take a look at those songs when I have a sec. Cheers!
@MohammedMehdiTBER
@MohammedMehdiTBER Ай бұрын
@@warpacademy yeah, I had closely the same idea as those metering systems can be easily hacked at the level of software, and they are quite useless in the case of crazy songs. Maybe we need some kind of hardware enforcement standard, because this can be quite dangerous on flat song such as the one I talked about earlier.
@NINETYSIXMUSIC
@NINETYSIXMUSIC Ай бұрын
I am wondering what you think about the use of analog emulations during mastering, and IDM because of the non-linearities and harmonics they create. Learning about intermodulation distortion and with even a sine wave, it seems very drastic to say the least, so the advice to combat this is to process everything individually as much as possible, but this is not possible during mastering.. So that means, using ANY non-linear EQ or compressor or tape saturation emulator, you are going to get IDM if I understand correctly? Why do companies who's products I really like, for instance; tone projects, Softtube, or UAD implement these non-linearities into their MASTERING plugins? (Hygge in unisum, Michelangelo EQ, Chandler Curve Bender) Do they do anything different to make the intermodulation distortion less worry-some? Because I feel like understanding what you are explaining here, those subtle harmonics get smeared all over the place and are more of a problem then enhancement to the signal going through? I need you help haha!
@warpacademy
@warpacademy Ай бұрын
Hey hey. You do what you must in mastering, and if you only are working at the master level then you are more limited in what you can do for sure. I prefer to be the mixer, and then do the master from that. You can do many things in the mix much cleaner, like you alluded to, and that results in a better final master. It doesn't really make much of a difference whether something is purely digital from the start or an analog emulation trying to sound like hardware. You still can destroy a good mix with plugins (analog emulated or not) and you still need to process things in groups. Bus processing and master processing aren't something to avoid or be afraid of; just be more gentle and make smaller moves that generate less artifacts. You can get more heavy-handed in the mix. Cheers!
@NINETYSIXMUSIC
@NINETYSIXMUSIC Ай бұрын
@@warpacademy thanks for the in depth response! I think I have found an answer I am okay with that doesn't prohibit my way of working too much.. The more you know, the more you realize how little you know and how many things you should take into account haha!
@warpacademy
@warpacademy Ай бұрын
Well said! I still have much to learn myself. You have to keep a beginners mind. Cheers!
@TheDudeTD
@TheDudeTD Ай бұрын
Kinda surprised you don’t low cut your masters (around the 30 Hz range). I’ve seen other producers and mastering engineers on KZfaq recommend doing so since it’s not that audible and by taming it a little bit you can get more out of your limiter. Would you say they’re wrong in that regard? Or does the clipper do most of the job for you? Most of them are using Fabfilter Pro Q with Linear Phase
@warpacademy
@warpacademy Ай бұрын
That is a big topic of debate. Cutting the lows IMO is actually a huge mistake. It can take all the jam out of the low end of a song. The idea is that you free up headroom but that’s actually usually the opposite of what happens. When you use an HPF you phase shift the low end making it higher in level than before, unless you use a linear phase filter. Cutting the super low material on a song that has way too much can work. It can speed up the bass and make it feel a little less sluggish. But only if the song has too much in that low range. Rather than using an HPF, I would first try out a low shelf and be more gentle to just roll out a bit and have a listen. Many people recommend the HPF approach because they don’t have proper full range monitoring systems and they can’t even hear what it’s doing to the low end. I used to incorrectly recommend that to people myself before I got a monitoring system capable of 25 hz and I learned from my mistakes.
@TheDudeTD
@TheDudeTD Ай бұрын
@@warpacademy Cool! Nice to see your take on the matter. Thanks for the response :)
@warpacademy
@warpacademy Ай бұрын
Cheers!
@puresquared
@puresquared Ай бұрын
Do you like to drive sound? Turn the drive down on your vocals. Just a tad. Add a little distortion once your done setting the correct drive and saturation. End song sounds a little too overdriven.
@warpacademy
@warpacademy Ай бұрын
I'm not quite sure what you're talking about, but I think you're mentioning what's happening in the Black Box plugin? I am saturating the mid channel a little more, yes, and I like it. So did the artist, so that's my benchmark. It does make the vocal pop, but in a nice way for my ears.
@puresquared
@puresquared Ай бұрын
@@warpacademy I was just referring to the overall sound. Including your vocals in the video. It sounds clean and great do not get me wrong brother. Just what my ears hear is all. By a tiny smidgeon. Most people would not be perceive it.
@warpacademy
@warpacademy Ай бұрын
Gotcha. I suppose it’s a matter of taste and preference. It’s easy to overcook things with master saturation. This is why I worked in mid side, parallel and used the density param to reduce the saturation. It was more consistent with the references this way.
@thegrays3660
@thegrays3660 Ай бұрын
If I wanted to have you master one of my songs where is the info for that? Price, process etc?
@warpacademy
@warpacademy Ай бұрын
Sure thing. You can check out my services page here and send me your deets on the form: vespers.ca/services/audio-engineering/?v=3e8d115eb4b3 I’ll reply with rates.
@AndyParka
@AndyParka Ай бұрын
Yeah, couldn't tell a difference between the limiters at all, maybe a youtube limitation. I don' think there should be a difference given how limiters work in the back end, as in the same settings should yield the same results.
@warpacademy
@warpacademy Ай бұрын
Thanks for the insight. In a perfect world, all limiters would work the same. But in reality they are coded vry differently. As someone who works with these tools day in and day out, there are sometimes huge audible differences. I can hear the difference between them listening on KZfaq, but it is a subtle nuance given that I'm not pushing the limiter very hard.
@vinylmastersgr1036
@vinylmastersgr1036 29 күн бұрын
Waveform is perfect, however I think it's not the final. All commercial songs have big waveform that exactly has no waves but it's flat and cut peaks and extreme loudness. All new songs are mastered about -7LUFS.
@warpacademy
@warpacademy 29 күн бұрын
I think you didn't catch that I tuned the master file down a lot in level to loudness match it with the pre-master. The master file itself is way up closer to the top. In terms of loudness for a master, I would encourage you to go and analyze more music in this and related genres. To say a blanket statement like “all new songs are mastered to -7 LUFS” is just not true, and it'll immediately become apparent when you run a series of songs through loudness analysis. Loudness levels are all over the place. Some songs are mastered to -14 LUFS and others to -4 or beyond. -8 is actually typical of pop songs, but even in that genre you see variation. To say that a master is not a final unless it has a big waveform - by which I assume you mean super loud - again is something I would refute. The master is done when it sounds good, regardless of loudness level. This is not a genre where loudness maters anywhere near as much as with other styles of music, like EDM, pop, hip hop etc. As you can see from my other videos I’m able to push my mixes super loud if I want to but you have to ask yourself if that serves the song. -7 LUFS is completely unnecessary for a gentle song like this. It would ruin it.
@vinylmastersgr1036
@vinylmastersgr1036 29 күн бұрын
@@warpacademy I mean I have checked commercial music new like Taylor Swift BillIe Eilish etc. Older songs were far better.
@warpacademy
@warpacademy 29 күн бұрын
Right. Those artists are in a very different genre from this. Those are heavily produced pop songs where it's common to have much louder masters. Also, Taylor Swift's song Vigilante Sh!t is mastered to -10 LUFS integrated in the loudest section, not -7. Billie Eilish LUNCH (the single most streamed song) is mastered to -10.7 LUFS in the loudest sections. That's the trouble with making generalizations.
@tommasostoppani51202
@tommasostoppani51202 9 күн бұрын
is this daw ableton?
@warpacademy
@warpacademy 9 күн бұрын
Yep
@sigurtsigurt549
@sigurtsigurt549 Ай бұрын
limitless sounds much better
@warpacademy
@warpacademy Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your opinion! Yes, Angus and I agreed and we went with Limitless for the final master.
@j-station
@j-station Ай бұрын
Transparent on ProL2 probably would have won the day
@warpacademy
@warpacademy Ай бұрын
I don't like the release profile on Transparent much personally. I use it on dialogue editing more. But maybe I should experiment with it more? What type of music are you using it on?
@j-station
@j-station Ай бұрын
@@warpacademy So I do like to use delta to hone it in, but I am working on stuff with more low end content to maybe that’s why I have been hearing it as preferred.
@warpacademy
@warpacademy Ай бұрын
A yes. Low end sub content is the very first thing that will crap out a limiter. Especially a fast one. I make sure I have just the right amount with no excess and I shift the energy in the bass a little further up using saturation and harmonics from sound design. So I don’t end up smashing limiter or clipper much with the sub.
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