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How to NAIL Vocal Compression Every Time
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Күн бұрынHow can you get vocals to sit perfectly upfront in the mix, while still feeling lively? With double stacked compression of course, but not in the way you would normally dial it in! Learn more: link.waves.com...
0:00 Introduction
0:16 Why compression of vocals is essential
1:06 Too much vs. too little compression - What to watch out for
1:58 Why using two compressors on vocals is clever
2:43 The dual compressor your vocal tracks are missing
3:55 Mystery vocal compressor plugin control tour
5:22 Hear more examples
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@Capt-Cran Жыл бұрын
Wanted you to know ... that the graphics and information on this video has helped me more understand compression in a major way ... I have always struggled, but this helped me understand ... AND I could hear the difference finally ... the A/B demonstrations were super .... I really appreciate the video!! SUBSCRIBED!!
@waves Жыл бұрын
Glad we could help 🙌 🙌 🙌
@zachary963 2 жыл бұрын
For those asking: this is not the same as an expander. An expander raises the volume of a signal above a threshold. R Comp has this feature, and it’s expressed as “negative” compression ratios. MV2 is a low-level compressor, where a signal below a threshold is raised. Automation or possibly parallel compression is more similar than an expander.
@Aqua_1014 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't Trash 2's compressor & gate combo work this way too? The gate has negative values, raising the signal below the threshold, turning the gate into a low compressor right?
@BLT-Tech 2 жыл бұрын
It sounds good. Is it unlike pre-gain on a compressor? thanks! 🙏
@AlekVila 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the better demonstrations do to your use of the visual aid. Nice!
@TheINFJChannel 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a visual *and* hands-on learner and your diagrams nailed it. I really appreciate the effort you put into this. Thank you 🙏 ❤🤜🤛🎤
@digitalmarketinghumans 3 жыл бұрын
The visual graphs here really help. Thank you Waves team for getting this on. Great explanation video. Really love your plugins. I haven't updated Waves in a while since I used Slate and other plugin companies but now, I am loving waves again especially after V12. I can definitely hear the difference. Thank you guys for updating your plugins! Not just the GUI, but the sound as well!
@michaelalvarez8046 Жыл бұрын
I want to thank you… this plug in did exactly what you said it would. It will be my go to compression in shaping vocals. From there I can add the “ frosting “. Thanks again
@stevenspencer9104 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so very much brother. I’m using it a lot on vocals at church now.
@bquillsstudio6393 3 жыл бұрын
MV2 is Amazing, I use it in every vocal track, And in the mastering process as well.
@Professor_Pat 3 жыл бұрын
All your plugins in these series are right on the money. They haven’t lied 🤥 yet. Thanks for sharing!
@elliotsimon9918 Жыл бұрын
The MV2 literally just saved my last mix. I like to use it on buses to get a fantastic sense of control between elements. It works!
@tonicfoxgaming Жыл бұрын
i must say i watched this and was really not sure how well it would work with my mix. it BLEW MY MIND! I added it to my bus and started singing things and holy moly did it not only save my mix but brought it life. This WILL be a go-to for me now.
@paulaudialterampartem6906 3 ай бұрын
For me, its simplicity is its beauty. It has saved the day as i have been struggling with some very old (but in demand) cassette recordings.What a job ! This has been a God send really :)
@DylanRotich 2 жыл бұрын
I recently picked up MV2, RVox, SSL EV2 , and SSL G Master Buss compressor from waves. After playing around with them MV2 was my clear favorite and most useful plugin. That upwards compression is just so easy and essential to use.
@Phober 2 жыл бұрын
Please continue explain like that in the video, its really helpful for beginner like me to understand what is actually happening in this tutorial, keep it up🙏
@BillGraper 2 жыл бұрын
I just bought the MV2 plugin last night for $29.99. I plan on using it just for upwards compression, followed by my Fabfilter Pro-C2 at a lower ratio. I want them to dance together & make the song smile. 😁
@Iamdanybazz 3 жыл бұрын
Crazy how I guessed the plugin before it was revealed Crazy
@ethai1 3 жыл бұрын
lol tbh I was sure it was Vocal Rider.
@MisterWessells 3 жыл бұрын
teach me guru
@sinhalatechbytes2045 3 жыл бұрын
me too :D
@sinhalatechbytes2045 3 жыл бұрын
also the Oxford inflator is great for this job
@WilliamGarrisonArts 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah My first thought was RVox, then Vocal Rider...I actually didnt know about this one.
@strawberrycrxme 3 ай бұрын
I've always used this plugin to amplify sound, I never knew it could be used like this. Now my vocals sound more professional and mixed!!
@VenVile 3 жыл бұрын
This is dope. This plugin would be perfect with some attack and release settings for each though.
@MastroTunes 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I’m wondering why waves would limit something that seems so necessary.
@lilwombat 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's the only reason I don't use it I never like how the attack and release sounded
@21xero70 2 жыл бұрын
@@MastroTunes Not that it matters, but what i think waves did this on purpose because the plugin screams simplicity, maybe their target market for this plugin is for those who are more amateur beginners and are teaching themselves mixing as opposed to some more experience people like ourselves that look for more optical solutions and delivery styles.
@CreativeMindsAudio 2 жыл бұрын
I have a love hate relationship with this plugin, mostly because of the attack/release settings being meh and that i feel everything i put in has a colored sound in a way that doesn’t work for most material. It feels too simple at times, but can be good on some poorly recorded tracks.
@paulaudialterampartem6906 3 ай бұрын
For me, its simplicity is its beauty. It has saved the day as i have been struggling with some very old (but in demand) cassette recordings.What a job ! This has been a God send really :)
@Chunographx 10 ай бұрын
I’m glad i chosed waves, these tutorials and edutaiment videos are just what we need , thank you from a home studio producer
@beandog100 Жыл бұрын
Thank you brother. That was a really professional, to-the-point tutorial. Going to the MV2 right now 😎 x
@ShivSagar010 Жыл бұрын
Thank You Very Much Sir! 🙂🙏
@anthonypicone3463 3 жыл бұрын
Don't underestimate automation before compression.
@mindblower113 2 жыл бұрын
Just apply the limiter and buum
@igorzavalnyi5341 2 жыл бұрын
can automation be that fast to deal with peaks and lows in a single word?
@anthonypicone3463 2 жыл бұрын
@@igorzavalnyi5341 real automation is done manually with the editing tool. I've heard Mutt Lang say he would sometimes spend 8 hours automating a vocal track
@anthonypicone3463 2 жыл бұрын
@@igorzavalnyi5341 it's not about shortcuts and speed. It's about getting the right mix no matter what it takes. I've found I get much better results when I spend time manually automating the vocals. There are sometimes issues related to vowels which occupy certain frequencies. In that case, a multi band compressor would do the trick by only grabbing those certain midrange frequencies
@millies1264 2 жыл бұрын
@@anthonypicone3463 Dang really!? I'm on song 18 of my first album (or what's turning into two albums...) and like, dang! Are you talking about automating the volume? If so, what about Waves Vocal Rider???
@Niccks 11 күн бұрын
Chain for vocals: gate, deesser, gain automation , limiter, subtractive eq , compression, additive eq, saturation, reverb, delay
@edmlv 3 жыл бұрын
Love this video series! Would be awesome to see a comparison of use of MV2 vs Vocal rider and also vocal chain with all waves plugins!
@OverdriveMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Jaycen Joshua often uses the MV2 as his parallel compressor on vocals. Man is a legend.
@stikkkymohbeatz1814 3 жыл бұрын
I just found a new plugin for compression. Very easy to use and vey Effective. thanks
@jeffroberts_tunes 2 жыл бұрын
I've been using it as a bus compressor on the master fader for a while with the Good Leakage setting. Maybe tweaking the settings some after the preset and often not. I like the warm gluing together it does.
@hywearsprada 7 ай бұрын
UPDATED VOCAL CHAIN: 500 Series analog: Neve 1073lb > dbx 520 De-Esser > Maag EQ4 (Airband at 10k +6db) Crane Song Falcon (for peaks) > DAW: Autotune > Subtractive Eq (ProQ3) > 1176 > LA2A > Additive Eq (Pultec or SSL) > Rvox > Vocal Doubler > Slate Digital Fresh Air = Billion Dollar Sound
@eu.moraez 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You Waves! I Love my Waves Plugins!
@azstratus1 2 жыл бұрын
Tremendous tip and demonstration! I never knew that plugin could do that for vocal applications (and more).
@hywearsprada 3 жыл бұрын
autotune pro > waves vocal rider > de-esser > subtractive eq > additive eq > c6 > ssl e channel > rcomp > rvox > vocal doubler > final eq > de-esser > limiter > (bus) > delay > valhalla reverb > million dollar vocal sound
@lockheartbleeding 2 жыл бұрын
why put vocal rider before conpression 🤔
@hywearsprada 2 жыл бұрын
@@lockheartbleeding because vocal rider will do a good job at leveling out your vocal which in turn will make the compressor work less when you throw it on there, that’ll give you a more natural sounding vocal over just throwing on a compressor and having it squash the vocal
@1safeguard 2 жыл бұрын
Much better if you volume automate by hand rather than allowing vocal rider to potentially ruin a performance
@hywearsprada 2 жыл бұрын
@@1safeguard i mix 5-10 songs a day bud, there’s not enough time to sit there and automate a vocal manually.
@luukvisscher2348 2 жыл бұрын
Can you send an example with one of my vocal recording?
@romull 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah! One of my favorite plugin!
@albertwangny 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Almost all Waves plugins are dug by you! Great job!
@englishiowa 3 жыл бұрын
The phrase “double bagging compression” hit me differently than it prob should 🤣
@ladyjulia4038 Жыл бұрын
Hey friend I am extremely hard of hearing. How you showed the vocal track was very helpful for me. Thankyou and keep killing it!
@mashzmash 3 жыл бұрын
For my taste, I thought the "not enough compression" example at 1:17 was actually quite nice for this style.
@PK-uj8mp Жыл бұрын
That's why mixing is an art, and not simply something you automate
@jabulanimahlangu6863 3 жыл бұрын
this is the best tutorial I have ever seen
@ericktellez7632 Жыл бұрын
this might be weird, but what i tend to do is riding the vocals first, using either a volume plug in or a trim control on the audio file, automate the volume on the loudest parts, and the quietests parts raise them a little bit as well, when it is more balanced then i used a compressor either for the short peaks in peak mode or if is just for the tone and coloration in the RMS mode.
@ProjectHMF Жыл бұрын
Based
@LuffyAkAMaDGuY 3 жыл бұрын
beast comp. I usually set this plugin third to last
@DoitYHWH 3 жыл бұрын
Serious tutorials with serious plugins! Thanks Dan!
@panayiotisstauridis6708 Жыл бұрын
Dude this is a life saver thanks soooo much
@BartekEVH 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, this is fast and great solution.
@precisionsoundworksstudio 2 жыл бұрын
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Well done, Dan... Great video!
@AjmalOmid 5 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot good job
@LeDungProducer 2 жыл бұрын
wow wow thank you so much
@AndyKingCo 2 жыл бұрын
Just got it and love it on vocals! Secret weapon plugin
@signaltheplug 2 жыл бұрын
MV2 is the sauce the difference is instantly noticed! Even on Drums! Hits different!!
@dancooperwaves3685 2 жыл бұрын
Good call on drums!!
@tonycalderamx Жыл бұрын
You apply it to the whole drums?
@SmallAxeMP 3 жыл бұрын
I was about to say the MV2 way before he revealed it. I did videos using this and made presets with it. It is a killer on BKV.
@cgsmithinnola 2 жыл бұрын
MPA told me how to utilize the MV2 on my Kick and Snares and I can't believe I got some things done without it before!!
@yongewok 2 жыл бұрын
Sean Paine demonstrated the MV2 a few years ago at my school, I've been a proponent ever since
@romanokoenmusic 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Cool songs you worked on.
@BenBilliato 2 жыл бұрын
My new mentor❤🙏🙌🏾
@oceanbeats4460 3 жыл бұрын
I've been using on mostly low level comp but I will also try both high and low
@ryanybos 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You Dan, I just added the MV2 to my go to Vocal Bus. I've had the plugin for quite a while now but didn't take (or have) the time to try it out until watching today. At first was a bit skeptical with no control over attack n release but the end result after comparison was spot on. p.s. who is Jim? Lol
@Mongoosh 3 жыл бұрын
Nice going to try it, i have it in my bundle to
@rhythm449 2 жыл бұрын
GREAT PLUG
@txddyfarquh3916 3 жыл бұрын
I needed this!!!!! Omfg thank you
@gggood688 Жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation....😊Subscribed!😊
@thegroove2000 3 жыл бұрын
WOW I have also been getting into this plug in of late and I can confirm it works wonders and really easily.
@thegroove2000 3 жыл бұрын
Its works on all kinds of dtynamic material.
@biged3175 3 жыл бұрын
I have always been using the MV2 in series with other compressors. No wonder it sucked. The MV2 can do it all on its own! Can't wait to try this out. I'd still add the RVox after it however. Thanks for sharing!
@cult2 2 жыл бұрын
@Wayne Brown thanks for this vid
@JackhammerSiesta 2 жыл бұрын
Downwards and upwards compression then.
@ricardodantasmixer6988 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! Thank you.
@AK-Official 10 ай бұрын
Great video, thank you 😊
@natebrown4939 3 жыл бұрын
I use MV2 all the time. The secrets out now.
@kaivrock 2 жыл бұрын
What I’ll do a lot of times is section off the peaks and just drag the volume on tha section down and then grab the whole section and raise the overall volume. Then I’ll compress. It sounds like a lot but you can get it done as quick or quicker and messing with the compressor
@didierramirez3842 2 жыл бұрын
Nice. Creo es mejor conservar el dinamismo de la voz y este mv2 lo hace super bien además de conseguir uniformidad en el. Volumen genial. Gracias bro gracias to the team waves
@hollawait 3 жыл бұрын
I am learning more daily from yt than I did in music school. 😐
@_JohnnySav 3 жыл бұрын
Good thing I already own this 😜!!! Now to test it out!!!
@CyrilleBoucanogh 3 жыл бұрын
great tips! A lot of famous producers' favourite trick. Although, I wouldn't recommend compressing vocal so aggressively in the example on 5:45. It sounds too flat for this genre and naturality of the vocal. Also in the second example on 5:26 the vocal started sounding smaller after compression, especially when monitoring on a quiet volume.
@kensmechanicalaffair 3 жыл бұрын
That's what parallel is for.
@CyrilleBoucanogh 3 жыл бұрын
@@kensmechanicalaffair Parallel is the King, but in this case Upward compression would bring back all the highest picks and make them stand out. Just moderate serial compression would do the job perfectly.
@kensmechanicalaffair 3 жыл бұрын
@@CyrilleBoucanogh Or in my case pick up a moderate ground noise, lol.
@dansteinbok7955 2 жыл бұрын
Turns into an infomercial at 4:00
@Prod_JcBeatz 2 жыл бұрын
very good this mv2 from waves, I have it and I didn't even know it was that good hehehehe, thank you very much
@mictianrv 3 жыл бұрын
Thanx for this one, so useful
@aftertheshowmoviepodcast 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Waves. Now your blood!!!!
@detroitzonelogic4724 3 жыл бұрын
I think this is in my bundle have to check
@maruserumangaka 3 жыл бұрын
I already do multiple (soft) compression. Cause I saw it years ago. And... I already use the MV2 In a bus (vocal) since several months. With soft compressions. For more... Body and presence But Thank you, it was really interesting
@blockbusterlatefees7713 2 жыл бұрын
Black Friday sale baby, $25 bucks!!! Thanks!!
@AzazelsGamingRealm 3 жыл бұрын
This my favorite compressor 🔥🙏
@RufusJacson 2 жыл бұрын
Personally prefer the sound of the 2 compressor method - seems smoother and more balanced to my ears.
@czdot 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a great reminder about this. However, I've just got Neutron Standard, so no Waves for me (not mentioning iLok) :-) Great video!
@theoneandonly6533 11 ай бұрын
mv2 is great but there is no attack and release control.. but its decent :) good for slow type of music but not for fast dynamic vocals or instruments
@gerisyandrayusman241 3 жыл бұрын
Good job, Mr Graphic ilustrator👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼. Make videos like this again please , Waves.
@dancooperwaves3685 3 жыл бұрын
Will do!
@horia43 8 ай бұрын
That seems like one very good product ! Can someone please tell the name of the other two songs in this video ? I couldn't find them at all and been searching for a while. The first one is Now You're Blood · The Boot Inn Band I would really appreciate, thank you !
@cuyabanodouradense5694 3 жыл бұрын
Muito bom mesmo um tesouro escondido.
@cedricmi Жыл бұрын
What missing, as in many Waves plugins, is an autogain. This would make for a great update.
@chimapenticost8323 2 жыл бұрын
You made it easy
@scrubsto 2 жыл бұрын
this helped alot thx
@ThingsandStuffchannel 2 жыл бұрын
couldn't you theoretically achieve this same effect as having an expander stacked with a compressor? Seems like the "secret sauce" is just an expander, correct me if I'm wrong. The plugin certainly simplifies things though. seems nice!
@zachary963 2 жыл бұрын
No. An expander raises the volume of a signal above a threshold. R Comp has this feature, and it’s expressed as “negative” compression ratios. MV2 is a low-level compressor, where a signal below a threshold is raised. Automation or possibly parallel compression is more similar than an expander.
@yuckykent1355 Жыл бұрын
i finally understand
@Dooblecaine 2 жыл бұрын
Creative advertisement for MV2. It does sound nice though.
@danalitheone 3 жыл бұрын
I personally double stack the CLA - 2A and the RVOX, and get a great upfront raw vocal sound!
@TheTonyTitan 3 жыл бұрын
For hip hop?
@danalitheone 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheTonyTitan yeah tbh I use it for Hip-Hop and R&B, I’ve been mixing and mastering less than a year so if you know about ways to stack compression to get a good sound let me know!
@pharaohonthetrack9544 3 жыл бұрын
Works great on 808’s also
@vadimmartynyuk Жыл бұрын
I thought the secret plugin would be Waves Vocal Rider
@ERICDIZZYASMR 3 жыл бұрын
Wonder how this will sound using it in this chain: Mv2, Pro Q, C6, 76, 2A, Pro Q, Soothe 2.
@purplezillia 3 жыл бұрын
saturation?
@GermanFragEditing 3 жыл бұрын
I guess squashed
@seanizzlerecords 2 жыл бұрын
YUPPP Most definitely
@omed7635 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you ..
@darknightfawkes1028 2 жыл бұрын
Just use volume automation so you can fix the majority of the problem before compressing
@getulioprates 2 жыл бұрын
Just use an analog compressor in tracking, so you don't waste too much time with volume automation.
@darknightfawkes1028 2 жыл бұрын
@@getulioprates yeah but I don’t want the loud notes to sound squashed, but thanks for the tip
@baronvonbeandip 3 жыл бұрын
I still think the FET-Optical is better. The middle still gets blown out with MV2
@thegroove2000 3 жыл бұрын
High level downwards and low level upwards. So compressing and expanding YES?.
@augustauseil 3 жыл бұрын
Hey! Upward compression is still compression and not expansion because it makes the quiet parts louder, vs making the loud parts louder (expansion)
@thegroove2000 3 жыл бұрын
@@augustauseil Ok thanks.
@JamEZmusic86 3 жыл бұрын
Self-Law, I could be wrong. But I always thought the low level compression on this plugin was adding in some parallel compression to bring the low information up.
@thegroove2000 3 жыл бұрын
@@JamEZmusic86 mmmmm im sure the low is like an expander as that brings up the low level information. What ever it works.
@xvnvs8673 Ай бұрын
Wish if mv2 has attack/release
@producerfuji_official 2 жыл бұрын
Question in your vocal chain where should you use this plugin in your vocal chain ??
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