How to Normalize cDNA Concentrations -- Ask TaqMan® Ep. 15 by Life Technologies

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Thermo Fisher Scientific

Thermo Fisher Scientific

11 жыл бұрын

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In this video, Sr. Field Applications Specialist Doug Rains examines why the choice of an appropriate normalizer gene is so critical for the accuracy of final real-time PCR data. In addition to discussing this gene's importance, Doug provides a helpful reference document which explains in detail how researchers can quantitatively validate their choice of a control gene.
Relative gene expression is one of the most common applications that researchers perform on their real-time instruments. So it's never a surprise when I receive a question like the one I got recently from Shan at Pennsylvania State University, who asks the following:, "Since every cDNA is run with both the gene of interest and internal control, do I have to be sure that the concentration of each cDNA is the same? Excellent question. Let's start with a little bit of review.
Whenever we do a gene expression experiment, we need at least two gene-specific assays one for our gene of interest, and one for an internal control gene, also sometimes referred to as a "normalizer," "housekeeping gene," or "endogenous control." Different terms, same idea.
So what does this second gene -- the normalizer -- do for us? Essentially, its number one job is to normalize our final data for differing input amounts of template. Here's what I mean.
Say I'm comparing the expression of my gene of interest in two samples: an untreated and a treated cell line. When I examine the real-time results, I find that my two samples differ by a single Ct. This result suggests that there's a two-fold difference in my target's expression between the two samples. But how do I know that two-field difference is real?
After all, isn't it possible that my untreated and treated cDNAs had different concentrations, and that's the reason we're seeing a one-Ct difference? Definitely a possibility. Precisely why I also have to run a normalizer gene on each sample.
A good normalizer gene is one whose expression is stable across my various sample types, assuming equal starting amounts. Thanks to the data I collect from this second gene assay, I can effectively monitor input amounts of cDNA, even when they differ from sample to sample. Then, at the end of the run, I can use Ct data from the normalizer gene to correct final expression values for differing input amounts of cDNA. I can thereby avoid having to always add equal amounts of template when running my experiments.
But clearly, for the normalizer to do its job correctly, its expression has to be stable across our sample set. If it's not, the data from the normalizer can actually make our final expression values less accurate. So how does one choose a good normalizer?
To find out, I strongly recommend our kind viewers visit the Life Technologies web page, where you can download a copy of the Relative Gene Expression Workflow document. This PDF has an entire section on choosing the most appropriate normalizer, based not on guesswork, but on good, hard empirical data.

Пікірлер: 24
@niqhtinqale
@niqhtinqale 2 жыл бұрын
he was the best Ask Taqman, change my mind
@GuppyPal
@GuppyPal 11 жыл бұрын
I already knew this, but I just want to say the videos in this series are excellent. VERY helpful. Thank you.
@drshinwarishinwari1253
@drshinwarishinwari1253 3 жыл бұрын
i am going to use qPCR for differential expression of my gene of interest. i am totally beginner to strat ,
@victorcarballo2552
@victorcarballo2552 10 жыл бұрын
where I can find the software for windows 8?
@shimyns
@shimyns 5 жыл бұрын
Nothing like good, hard empirical data.
@cutieaadi9599
@cutieaadi9599 7 ай бұрын
what is the difference between the fold and fold change. My colleague say, whatever 2-ddCT value we got in the last step of gene expression study, is a relative change expression which we can't pronounce the fold change, is that true?
@raccoon3164
@raccoon3164 5 жыл бұрын
Damn ! A real lice hero !
@ameetkumar2827
@ameetkumar2827 3 жыл бұрын
why we normalize the data by using reference gene.? what's the reason?
@yasminesmati573
@yasminesmati573 2 жыл бұрын
Hello! Can I analyse the data if the housekeeping genes are in one group higher due to higher concentration of cDNA in that sample? Is normalisation sufficient enough to analyse the data or do I have to start the experiments again?
@rachanapandey9384
@rachanapandey9384 2 жыл бұрын
going through the same problem
@thermofisher
@thermofisher 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Yasmin and Rachana, please contact our technical support team at thermofisher.com/askaquestion for additional information. Thank you!
@toluolukayode3549
@toluolukayode3549 4 жыл бұрын
..does this mean I dont neccessarily have to use equal amount of cDNA for the samples?
@thermofisher
@thermofisher 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Tolu, thank you for your question. We still do recommend as best practice to add the same amount of cDNA across all of your reactions. Having an endogenous control will also help with normalization, but please add the same amount of cDNA if you are able. For additional technical support questions, please contact us at thermofisher.com/askaquestion. Thank you!
@MrKagningemma
@MrKagningemma 6 жыл бұрын
which normalizer / housekeeping gene would you recommend for fecal miRNA relative quantitation ?
@thermofisher
@thermofisher 6 жыл бұрын
We have not specifically studied this, but based on a literature search miR-16 and miR-26b look like good candidates for human fecal samples. You can find more here: cebp.aacrjournals.org/content/19/7/1766
@Hamlet137475
@Hamlet137475 8 жыл бұрын
couldn't we normalize the amount of RNA in each sample before running reverse transcriptase (cDNA conversion)? say measure RNA concentrations and get same amount, then convert to cDNA, that way you have the same amount of cDNA in all of your samples?
@thermofisher
@thermofisher 8 жыл бұрын
+Hamlet137475 Yes, that is correct. We recommend to quantitate your input amount of RNA used for cDNA synthesis, as it is very difficult to quantitate cDNA. Let us know if you have any further questions.
@natarajansubramani7271
@natarajansubramani7271 2 жыл бұрын
In generally, 1500 ng or 2000 ng of RNA was recommended for the cDNA conversion.
@connordennis1104
@connordennis1104 10 жыл бұрын
This whole series was very helpful. I have a question regarding housekeeper gene expression in a cell. Is it expressed at a constant % of total mRNA in a cell OR is it expressed at a constant quantity in a cell? I realize (thanks to this series), that various things can alter housekeeper expression in a cell, but I still don't know if it's a % or quantity of overall mRNA that is constant in a cell. Please help :)
@lifetechnologiescorp8544
@lifetechnologiescorp8544 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback, Conner. We're glad you're finding this video series to be helpful. The number of transcripts for the particular housekeeping gene may change over time due to different conditions. But this would then also change the % that this particular transcript is representing from the total RNA. Does that make sense?
@connordennis1104
@connordennis1104 10 жыл бұрын
***** Unfortunately, that doesn't help (yet). Let's see if I can elucidate my question. If the relative % of mRNA for the reference is conserved among tested groups, then the raw CT values should be close to the same value for the reference gene regardless of group. On the other hand, if the reference gene is expressed as a constant quantity in a cell and if other genes are up/down regulated in response to the treatment, then the reference gene % will drop accordingly. By extension, this means that raw CT for the endogenous gene need not be the same value across groups. So, do the raw CT values I obtain for the reference gene need to be really close to each other?
@lifetechnologiescorp8544
@lifetechnologiescorp8544 10 жыл бұрын
Sorry for the confusion there, Conner and thanks for clarifying. To use the reference gene as a valid endogenous control (which normalizes for variations in the amount of input), the raw Ct values need to be approximately the same across all your samples (when the same amount of input is used). Once this is confirmed, then you don't need to use the exact same input amount for all samples, and then you may see differences in the raw Ct values from the reference gene. For example, say that the total mRNA copies was 1000. If you say that the reference gene is: Set percentage (ex: 3%) then the reference is present at 30 copiesSet quantity (ex: 10 copies) then the reference is present at 10 copies In the scenario that the reference is expressed at a constant quantity in the cell, as you said, the % reference would then change accordingly if other genes change. If we follow this example through and again assume 1000 copies, we'd get: Set percentage (ex: 2%) then the reference is present at 20 copiesSet quantity (ex: 10 copies) then the reference is present at 10 copies Different reference genes may exhibit different patterns of expression depending on the sample. However, for the reference to be a good normalizer it would have to follow the constant quantity scenario in order for the expression to remain unchanged from one sample to the next. In this way, we would know whether a Ct change between the reference gene and a target gene is due to a real biological change (and not just a difference in the amount of total RNA used).
@amogelangsekhu3906
@amogelangsekhu3906 2 ай бұрын
Tbh, I'm still confused.
@arjunprashanth9756
@arjunprashanth9756 Ай бұрын
Same here
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