How to Optimise UniFi U6 LR Wi-Fi Access Point | From 300 Mbps to Over 800 Mbps

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In this video we take a look at the settings within the UniFi Network controller and how to optimise them for the best Wi-Fi connection/coverage.
My network speed went from 300 Mbps to over 800 Mbps.
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Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
00:53 - Existing settings
01:37 - RF Scanner
04:20 - Configuration changes
10:40 - Speed Test underneath access point
11:30 - Final Thoughts

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@InsideWire 2 жыл бұрын

CORRECTION: In this video I mention the access point has 2.5Gb connectivity however, U6-LR only has a 1Gb connectivity.

@jeffm2787 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I have two of them. I think it all comes down to pricing, if they went with a 2.5Gbps port it would cost a bit more and 99% of those installing them would never wire them up at 2.5. Also unless your a home user using the highly unreliable HE160 (for any AP) you just don't need 2.5Gbps. If your into transferring large amounts of data just hard wire. If your a gamer, just hard wire. If your surfing the web, porn, or whatever you do then you don't need that 2.5Gbps port. Would be nice, but just not necessary. The U6-Pro might have a 2.5Gbps port.

@Burnman83 2 жыл бұрын

@@jeffm2787 Agree. The thing is, tests of Crosstalk etc. showed that even with the 1g interface, the UBNT AP exceeds the bandwidth of the TP Link Omada AP featuring a 2,5g interface for up to (I think) 3 streams and only above that, the higher bandwidth interface gives you an advantage. Frankly asking: Show me ONE environment, where there are more than 3 people in immediate proximity to the AP going full blast with an up-to-date mobile phone or else. That is just not a typical scenario.

@coleharring 2 жыл бұрын

I could be wrong but when I was combing through the openWRT branch for the U6LR it does have 2.5 PHY but it’s restricted to 1GbE at a firmware or driver level. It could be a different Ubiquity AP and I haven’t flashed that on my own so I can speak to it validity just that I saw it in some of the openWRT firmwares.

@EsotericArctos 2 жыл бұрын

@Barrett Harrington As far as I know, U6-LR and U6-Pro both are 1Gbps PHY. The Enterprise version has 2.5Gbps PHY interface. This is somewhat of a failing on Ubiquiti's decision making process with these and limits the AP's throughput. Still better than WiFi 5 though

@scottgray6099 11 ай бұрын

@@jeffm2787 I have one, it doesn't

@rgarza7264 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome video! Thanks for the tips!

@InsideWire 3 жыл бұрын

No problem, hopefully everyone can get better speeds 🙌

@NicholasEJones Жыл бұрын

Great video would love more on this subject

@InsideWire Жыл бұрын

Let me see what I can do.

@JJ-gm1mk Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the video. Similar to at least one of the other commenters, I am curious if playing with these sorts of setting would improve range, as opposed to speed near the access point(?). I did watch your video on replacing 2 UniFi AC Pros with 1 UniFi 6 LR, but it didn't seem like you did as much adjusting of settings in that video. Are there any settings that would tend to increase the range of a UniFi 6 LR, particularly going through walls? Thanks again.

@bg9635 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much for the video. I was actually really interested to see if the changes you made affected the outside range. I have one AC Pro that isn’t reaching as far as I want and was curious to see if the LR would make a difference…

@InsideWire 2 жыл бұрын

You're very welcome. Did you see my other video where i replaced 2 AC pros with 1 U6 LR? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bM6JasWB3rO5c58.html You'll see some of the tests I run in here. it really depends what the signal has to travel through.

@bg9635 2 жыл бұрын

@@InsideWire yes I saw that video thanks. That was straight out of the box and default settings wasn’t it? I was interested to see if the optimisations you did in this video improved the range.

@scgoralski 2 ай бұрын

Awesome, thank you. Justalittle knowhowhasmade a huge difference to our environment. Thank you again!

@InsideWire Ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@divinity176 2 жыл бұрын

Be nice to see get an experienced viewpoint on some of the site-wide or wlan-wide settings such as Auto-Optimize Network, Enable Fast Roaming etc... simply testing with our own devices has massive limitations, given the diversity of phones and OS versions in use with some models several years old.

@tlteal Жыл бұрын

Great video! I'm fairly new to Unifi and have everything setup/configured but the AP keeps disconnecting and going offline. What can I do to prevent that from occuring constantly? Doing so makes all the devices connected to it disconnect, reconnect, disconnect, reconnect....

@jeffm2787 2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget the U6-LR has pretty good gain on the antennas. That gives you the ability to hear those distant devices better. Not sure why people fail to mention antenna gain. HT40 doesn't work on the U6-LR for me, would be curious if it works for you.

@EsotericArctos 2 жыл бұрын

Gain in the AP is not really so great when your clients do not have the same gain. The AP may reach the client, but the client is not able to transmit back. Actual throughput is more important than theoretical gain devices have. HT-40 works fine on the U6-LR. If you have a crowded 2.4GHz area, it wil tend to drop back to 20MHz as HT-40 is more like Auto 20/40 and in crowded areas you will get better performance on HIT-20 in most cases

@jeffm2787 2 жыл бұрын

@@EsotericArctos Read more on Antenna Gain. Downside is more gain tends to have more directionality.

@Rosscoff2000 2 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't it be better to set transmit power to max but also set a sensible Min RSSI so that devices that are powerful enough to get good two-way working at long range can do so, while devices with weaker transmit power won't make unusable connections or try to hold on to connections where they are no longer able to return a strong signal?

@MichaelSmith-fg8xh 2 жыл бұрын

Band steering sounds good but setting it to "off" means that it is the client devices decision which band/AP to connect to... which is how it's supposed to be

@Vijaythalapathy28 3 жыл бұрын

Would love to see a unifi setup 2021 please like a first timer

@ASUSfreak 2 жыл бұрын

Currently 9 vids of doing so. Helped me a lot... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mMuenLGUvcele4U.html&ab_channel=CrosstalkSolutions

@Legendary_UA 2 жыл бұрын

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@andrewenglish3810 2 жыл бұрын

@InsideWire according to Ubiquiti's website the U6-LR-US only has a 1Gbit port on it, not a 2.5Gbit port like you mentioned in your video.

@InsideWire 2 жыл бұрын

You are correct, my confusion was with the U6 Switch which had 2.5gb capabilities. Will pin a post to the video for all.

@michelogou6292 Жыл бұрын

Thank you, sir for that great video. Can i use the U6 LR with a Mikrotik Router?? Thanks !!!

@pkm52000 2 жыл бұрын

Did you do another test from outside the garden? Interested to know if these changes makes a difference over a distance 👍

@InsideWire 2 жыл бұрын

Sorry I didnt do any further testing outside.

@thomasholmsgaard 2 жыл бұрын

Band steering and mixed opinions is because understanding of the ieee standards are missing. In a nutshell when activated an AP stops to respond to some of the association requests from clients in an attempt to nudge clients on to 5Ghz. Now this can be a problem for 2.4Ghz clients roaming and connecting. It is always the clients decision so Unifi do not automatically push the client to 5Ghz. It will chose to connect to 2.4Ghz if 5ghz signal is not within is acceptable range. Now if you have clients on the edge of the 5Ghz cell they will have problems. 802.11n is on 5Ghz as well ;)

@kevinhughes9801 3 жыл бұрын

Great vid thanks. Question can u force the access point to only use wifi 6 ax band?

@InsideWire 3 жыл бұрын

Not that I know of. You are able to configure whether you want to broadcast on 2.4 or 5 or both.

@kevinhughes9801 3 жыл бұрын

@@InsideWire ok thanks! Wanted to use one just for wifi 6 devices shame you cant

@smcomputersolutions 2 жыл бұрын

The reason it will have gone over to 2.4G network when you set the channel to auto on the 5Ghz band will more than likely be because it takes a while to scan the DFS channels and this can take up to 5 mins, the preferred channel being 5Ghz setting won’t have caused it to move to the 2.4Ghz

@EsotericArctos 2 жыл бұрын

I would not rely on the AP showing you what channels are busiest as this is only at the AP. You should do a proper WiFi survey, even if you only walk around with WiFi Analyser on your mobile phone, if you want to realy find the best channel. If you have a crowded 2.4GHz band, you should use HT-20 for reliable connections. 40MHz will be a less reliable connection if you have a crowded band. Just something to be aware of. All that aside, thanks for the video. It is quite reasonable for a general overview of the settings.

@InsideWire 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the points and the feedback

@Cogan1 2 жыл бұрын

do you need a UDM-Pro in order to use the throughput test on Wifiman? I can't seem to find that test in the app, im using a cloud key+

@InsideWire 2 жыл бұрын

I have only ever tested it on the UDM Pro, not the cloud key and unfortunately don't have one to test with.

@martinnm8022 2 жыл бұрын

Using 80Mhz channel is not always the best option at all. In a nutshell, the wider the channel the TX power is "divided" and more waiting time for clients to TX (20Mhz x 3 wait) to transmit. If you value stability, latency and range VS pure speed , I would go for 40Mhz channel, or even 20hz if latency is super important. The exception to this is aif all your clients are AX already and can use OFDMA better. Also, the more APs in the area using the same channel, the more unstable the wider channels are.

@babasholaking Жыл бұрын

Hey good afternoon. I absolutely love your videos and in fact your delivery approach is so smooth and simple. That said I need your help for my home networks. I have subscribed to both Sky and Virgin Broadbands to ensure we don't have a down time. I have a 3 story building and i have cabled through the 3 floors. My network includes the following; Edgerouter X, Unifi U6 LR, 2 * Unify U6-Lite, 3 switches. I have decided to turn off the WIFIs from both Sky and VirginMedia in favour of the Ubiquity APs. I have the LR downstairs and Lite on the other floors. unlike you I live within a very condensed area with multiple channel consumptions and everyone uses 1/6/11 generally. I am finding it very difficult to find suitable channels per ap's. Even standing under each ap, I am only getting 65/70m. I am also using cat7/cat8 cabling mostly. I am just curious if there is any suggestions to get a decent speed through my house without resulting to mesh.

@InsideWire Жыл бұрын

If you access points are hard wired, there is no point in meshing them. Wifi is generally very busy and if you are in a busy area then it might be difficult to find a channel. Perhaps configure one access point as a time and see what signal you are getting. How are you seeing what level of signal you are getting, are you using the wifi man app or within the unifi network application?

@babasholaking Жыл бұрын

@@InsideWire thanks so much for your response. Yes I am using the Wifiman app on my iPhone to measure the speed. I actually move right beneath the APs. I found that my LR performs a lot better than the Lites. I just can not get the speeds for the 2 Lites to go beyond 90 when I am getting 750 or so for the LR a-bait on my iPhone 12 Pro Max

@GrogoriTork 2 ай бұрын

İ have 35 access point 5 of them are u6 ,should i change all of them 2,4Ghz channel to 1

@xVertigo101 Жыл бұрын

Normal for wifi man to show significantly lower upload than expected? I have an s22 ultra and get up to 920Mbps download, but the upload never exceeds 240Mbps on wifi man. My internet connection isn't fast enough to properly test, but I should have fiber installed next week

@bitkahuna 2 жыл бұрын

can't even find the scan option on the latest network app ??

@JonDisnard 2 жыл бұрын

The U6-LR does NOT support 2.5-Gbps as claimed in the later part of this video. After watching this video I decided to connect my U6-LR to a POE++ switch featuring 10-Gbps (also 5-Gbps & 2.5-Gbps), and it negotiated only 1-Gbps. The switch was the Unifi 6XG POE in case you want to reproduce.

@InsideWire 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for letting me know, I have posted a pin on the video mentioning this. My confusion with a switch which has 2.5Gb connections

@cyriuscrypto 11 ай бұрын

nice video i tried everything and cannot get pass 400mb even i have a 1gbit conection

@sandroferreira9883 2 жыл бұрын

Which app did you use to measure your signal and speed? For ios?

@InsideWire 2 жыл бұрын

I was using the Wi-Fi man app

@armandavtyan4023 2 жыл бұрын

I have Wi-Fi man app by ubiquity on my iPhone but it doesn’t have that same option you have in this video. Is it different? Can we have the link for that app please?

@elbutchos 7 ай бұрын

I just got a U6+ .... Testing with a M2 Macbook Air and a Iphone 14 Pro. I cannot get more than 500Mbps on sequential copies from my NAS. Also 2 clients downloading at the same time from the NAS are completely crippling the AP. Tested all possible channels/width combinations. Absolutely terrible. On my crappy 4 year old DLINK router I get the full gigabit when copying from my NAS.

@fUjiMaNia Жыл бұрын

Do you have this AP connected to a UDM Pro?

@InsideWire Жыл бұрын

yes

@xVertigo101 2 жыл бұрын

Odd my U6-LR connects my phone at 144Mbps on 5ghz. also shows 2x2 mimo only within Wifi-Man

@dekapurnomo3030 2 жыл бұрын

so do i.. how can get 1Gb connection on laptop?? please help

@lucianorodrigues2702 Жыл бұрын

What software is this monitoring traffic?

@InsideWire Жыл бұрын

Wi-Fi Man

@OmDKChannel 2 жыл бұрын

hello. i using U6-LR and U6-lite also using USW-24POE as switches.. but I don't know why all my devices here get around 286/286 Mbps(TX/RX). why i cant get 1GB link speed?, please help (FYI i don't have Dream Machine Pro)

@dekapurnomo3030 2 жыл бұрын

help

@petewright2283 2 жыл бұрын

True WiFi 6 would have been a wider bandwidth for faster.

@Spacefish007 2 жыл бұрын

Thoughput is not everything.. It get´s interesting once you have 10ths of devices with mixed technologies (802.11n -> 802.11ax) and you need to keep them all working / reduce jitter and retransmissions while operating in a RF noisy environment. You will quickly find yourself not using 80MHz Channel Bandwidth ;)

@dennisp8520 2 жыл бұрын

Isn’t the point to put older devices on the 2.4ghz so that you can connect devices that need faster speeds to 5Ghz where you can have 80mhz channels

@MichaelSmith-fg8xh 2 жыл бұрын

@@dennisp8520 It's one solution but 2.4GHz is noisy (bluetooth, microwave ovens, baby monitors etc) and often crowded (where I am it's not unusual to see 20+ access points trying to share the 2.4GHz band)... for noise I like running more than 1x 5ghz AP/Channel so that if the clients have issues on one AP/Channel they can silently transition to the other.

@rosskovelman460 2 жыл бұрын

@@MichaelSmith-fg8xh Are you referring to the implementation like Synology has where they have 2 5Ghz channels? If so I have used that, although not in a busy area with multiple other APs. I have typically not dedicated one to 80 and then another for 20/40 and just opened them all under the one channel.

@MichaelSmith-fg8xh 2 жыл бұрын

@@rosskovelman460 I've tried one AP with 2x 5Ghz and 2 APs with 1x 5Ghz each. Normally (aside from reboots, fw upgrades) they performed the same. I live in high rise apartments and share airspace with sometimes 40+ networks. The background noise is such that I improved WiFi speed by shielding off one wall with aluminium foil.

@taz2392 2 жыл бұрын

We have a coffee shop with 500 customers using laptops and mobile devices. There are so many dead spots it's unreal, we have a 1tb dedicated line coming in, sometimes a person will get 4mb down sometimes they get 36mb I honestly don't get this.

@fwaynedavis 7 ай бұрын

I know this is a late response, but this will help those following the conversation. Always set a bandwidth speed limit for the network. I suggest starting with something like 5mbps per user. This sounds counter intuitive, but everyone will "feel" fast because individually 5mb is plenty for KZfaq etc. what's happening is when there is a large bandwidth and no cap, some users will get all the speed, leaving very little for the rest. when all have speeds the network can supply at once, they all feel responsive. Keep increasing until you total usage is about 80% saturated, this will leave room for you to use a Vlan or private network for your business needs without bad customer experience.

@ASUSfreak 2 жыл бұрын

Sub'd 😉

@InsideWire 2 жыл бұрын

🙌🏽

@GuillaumeSUZENNE 3 жыл бұрын

What is your app to monitor WiFi throughput ?

@InsideWire 3 жыл бұрын

The app I was using is WiFi man app.

@rafmil13 2 жыл бұрын

@@InsideWire Hi Sr, I installed the WiFiman app from playstore but I dont'n see the same like you. I want to know how you do to see the download speed wifi all the time? ❓

@LonnieLevi 2 жыл бұрын

You need a UDM or UDM Pro to see the Signal Mapper section in the app. Pretty disappointing.

@KevinBritain 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly I’m pretty disappointed by the performance of UniFi U6-LR.. seriously considering replacing the 4 of my U6-LR back to the uap AC-LR’s..

@InsideWire 2 жыл бұрын

Are you disappointed in terms of speed or coverage?

@rizqimauludin8500 2 жыл бұрын

I have problem with 5Ghz channel in Unifi 6 LR. So now I still use 2,4Ghz while searching how to fix it. Anyone have solution?

@JeffreyRyan Жыл бұрын

stopped watching after you set transmit power to auto....sorry, just wrong/bad info

@habanablutenerife 8 ай бұрын

Now ok, my question is... do you think we pay 200 euros for a device that we have to do tricks to be able to reach 80 MB? ...this Wifi6 thing is a scam... because theoretically yes, it works, but in practice it is almost the same, because I don't want to mess around to make it work ok... I recently bought a Unifi6 Pro and sold it immediately so as not to lose money... now a U6+ is on the way which is cheaper and so I won't pay as much... The reason for the sale was that it didn't go over 32MB/s (intranet).. a shame.... I did all the tests that exist and now I collide with your video hehehehehhe... well yes I was right.. they are garbage... a few days ago I had a Xyxel Wifi 6 and it worked at 70MB/s....what's wrong with Unifi???? Let's see when the U6+ arrives and see what it comes with in this model

@SirHackaL0t. 2 жыл бұрын

I see a video that’s about optimising the U6 LR AP and yet you feel it necessary to tell me in the intro that you are going to show us how to optimise the U6 LR AP. Seems a waste of your time and mine. It’s a common issue that many youtubers fall into. :)