Thanks Garry, it's really good to hear that these videos are having a positive impact. Thanks for watching. All the best, John 😊

I couldn't agree more. Quality work always stands out, and a customer will always recommend any tradesperson who carries out a quality job 👌🏻 Thanks for watching. All the best, John 😊

Thank you Thomas, glad you enjoyed it. All the best, John 😊

Thanks Alan 😁 Glad you found the video helpful. All the best, John 😊

Cheers mate 😁 Same here, I'd recommend a quality job of a quick one any day. Take care, all the best, John 😊

Thanks for watching Dave, hope it all goes well 😎👍

Thanks coggsy3036, Some may not agree with bonding out a ceiling to take out bows, but like you said, it's all about going the extra mile for us (and fresh socks and trainers 😉) Thanks for watching. All the best, John 😊

Thanks Lee 😁 All the best, John 😊

@@garyjennings842 what’s that supposed to mean? You can see nice work stood on the ground. Or have you been on them Bacardi breezers again?

Glad you enjoyed the video. We like to create platforms like that wherever possible, as it's a much easier and safer way of doing things 👌🏻 Thanks for watching. All the best, John

Thanks Steve, glad you enjoyed the video. All the best, John 😊

Thanks for watching bud 😎👍

Thanks Ian 😊👍

I remember when my friend had a paint kettle handle go that was hanging on a ladder, about a litre of gloss kind of bounced onto a near by car 😂 my first reaction was to laugh, then get the white spirit. Was ok in the end 😂😂

Thanks for watching!

Much appreciated Andrew, have a great day 😎👍

Thank you 😊 It's great to hear that you've learnt from the videos 😁 All the best, John 😊

There's definitely many different techniques to plastering, but like you say, so long as the end result is perfect, that's all that matters 👍🏻 All the best, John 😊

Cheers mate, glad you enjoyed it 😎 Take care, John 😊

Stu My Favourite Bricklayer

@@Abid.Z77 absolutely awesome tradesmen a true artisan all the best Tony 👍

Hi Bob, I'm sorry to hear about your father in law, it sounds like he was a master of his craft. It's an honour to think of an old schooler appreciating this video 😊 Thanks for taking the time to comment. All the best, John 😊

Yes it truly is a dying trade, I left 6 years ago to work in general maintenance. We did some proper traditional plastering over the years and its hard to put it into words but its all about skimming and speed now. We did all the tricky cement /lime renders and dashing work aswell. But it got to the point where a rendering job always took alot more organising and effort but you couldn't really charge alot more than you could for a simple skimming job. We ended up simply shying away from outside work unless it was for one of our regulars. Plastering is one of those trades that is very skillfull but alot of people don't understand that and or don't really care. PS. I was always a clean spread but god I don't miss the endless dust!

Thanks John! 😎👍

Been plastering 20 years and Iv never ! Bonded a new plasterboard ceiling ?? Why not make the boarding level first. Not hard 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

When your talking 1-3mm you can lose it with the first coat and a rule easy just make sure it’s firmed up a bit before finish coat...

Also I would have just dubbed out with skim in this case rather then using bonding in this case because I’d rather avoid going over two different surfaces (bare board and bonding) Dubbing tape with bonding on fresh board imo is ridiculous. Probably causing more high points then anything. A hole bucket of bonding on a freshly boarded ceiling is crazy :o

@@blueyamie we had to bond everything.. absolute nightmare but that's the way it was. Especially ceilings sometimes you didn't have to do wall's. Now nobody bonds unless it's a mess

Over cautious on the bonding buisness for me, theres some serious boarding issues gone on here if it needs bonding out, it's a £120 ceiling where I'm from, two coats speedskim....mint!

Glad you enjoyed it bud, take care 👍

Thanks dude! 😎👍

Thanks guys! 👍

Build With A&E 🧱👍🏼

Definitely worth investing in the right kit Rob 😁 Thanks for watching. All the best, John 😊

Thanks Paul 😊👍

No mate that robin clevert on there is an unreal joiner these guys are awesome multi tradesmen tho

Compliment to A&E but harsh on Skill Builder. Robin is a master carpenter and roger and Dylan do a great job of producing content for all levels.

I agree Robin is a master, the others NO

Thanks Derek 😄👍

Hope it goes well Chrissy! 👍🏼

The good old days! I used to have to mix browning with a shovel in a bath. I'd like to shake the hand of the person who invented the mechanical whisk 😁 Thanks for watching. All the best, John 😊

Thanks Dave, it means a lot 👌🏻 All the best, John 😊

Everyone has their own preferred consistency, but if you follow the instructions on the bag it's normally a good starting point. If you're skimming over artex you will want a slightly thicker consistency for the first coat, as you're covering a rough surface. Hope this helps. All the best, John 👷🏼‍♂️

@@BuildWithAE Thanks 👍🏾

Hi Stuart, I'm glad you found the video helpful. It's fine to bond over existing plaster, so long as it's solid. If the original plaster is coming away, then I'd recommend removing it or boarding over it. Providing that it's fine, simply prime the existing area and your good to go 👍🏻 Hope this helps. All the best, John 😊

Hi John thanks for your quick response, just need be clear about something when you say just prime it I take you mean PVA before bonding?

@@BuildWithAE Hi John thanks for your reply just need to confirm something when you say prime I take you mean PVA before bonding? By the way the plaster is firm and not coming away. All the best Stuart

Hi Stuart, PVA has been used as a primer for many years and many still use it with no problems. However, we tend to use blue grit now. When PVA dries, it can create a film on the surface on which it's applied, which in some cases can delaminate from the surface causing the plaster to become unstable. Blue grit absorbs into the surface, leaving only the aggregate as a key, which is much more stable. Hope this helps. All the best, John

He’s showed you why. The joists are all over the place which makes the boarding all over the place

We've done neither, as it's not a listed building. Hope this helps. All the best, John 😊

This was only a tiddler 😉 All the best, John 😊

If the ceiling is nowhere near flat, like this was, then it's a good idea to bond out first. Not only does it help to flatten out the ceiling, but also makes skimming it easier. Hope this helps. All the best, John 😊

Thanks Maria! 😊👍

Hi Barry, You need to apply two coats wet on wet, so you would need to prime the wall and start again I'm afraid. Hope this helps. All the best, John 👷🏼‍♂️

@@BuildWithAE thanks for prompt response.

No but the layers on it might plus always wear the correct PPE when stripping the plaster off But every site before you start work should have a asbestos report done👍

@@BuildWithAE Thank you !👍

Yes when the sun hit it, along with the ceiling being hideous to plaster being all over the place

It is yes, in theory you can apply the plaster with a piece of broccoli, aslong as you get it flat after

As someone in England I would like to know the answer too 😂 I plaster everything but don’t know the reasoning

With plastering skimming it is normally one visit per wall or ceiling,with drylineing there is up to four visits per wall with multiple applications and lots of sanding (and dust) but it drys quicker. Hope this helps 🤷🏻‍♂️

@@markworthington3893 I agree and to add to that I guess plastered walls are much more durable than drylined walls as the paper can get pierced easily. I prefer a traditional plaster myself although I guess you could get away with a drylined ceiling as there's less chances of that getting damaged 👍

The filler can flash through when painted, depending on the paint used.

Xtra Sound insulation and fire proofing

Not really sure how to answer that I'm afraid. Could you be more specific?

Thanks Leon, glad you enjoyed the video. That information is classified I'm afraid 😉 All the best, John 😊

💷💷💷💷 what’s your preferred trowel is it worth spending abit more and going for a RST,silverline ect .... ? Thanks Leon Kyle Robinson

I want to know how much he is charging for that plus it's tapped edge boards stop it pal

If you want to get a ceiling nice and flat, you can either bond it out as shown in this video, or you could pack the joists out to level them up before you board. The first option is the quickest and easiest way though 😁 Hope this helps. Thanks for watching. All the best, John 😊

We're based in Leamington Spa. All the best, John

“Unless customer” - you do this to make you feel better as a trade person, customer just benefits from your attitude. Love attitude of these guys and not much of others😎

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I was thinking that same thing pal

Everyone has their own way of doing things, and I totally respect that. Just out of curiosity, how would you get over a bowed ceiling? If there's anything more than a 5-10mm hollow, are you just filling it with skim? What about on Victorian properties such as this, where sagged joists are commonplace, and there can be huge discrepancies in levels? Every day's a school day, and we're always learning new methods and techniques; so I'm intrigued to know what your methods would be. All the best, John 😊

@@BuildWithAE most of my work is high ceiling victorian stuff but ive never had to bond out after an over board , we skim the skrim and hollows , then first coat and lay down , maybe ive just not come across ceilings as bad as around you area , like you say we never stop learning not picking fault just curious , was the old cieling removed ? or over board

Most over boards I do I would love to fill out first under 5 mm is fine with 2 coats and a speed skim but most old properties could do with bonding out 1st especially I'd there are features that show up the bows

@@BuildWithAE also why have you skrimmed your screws , you must know something i dont

😂 this is very true! All the best, John 👷🏻‍♂️

Hi Joe, As it starts to dry out it will go patchey, until it's fully dry when it will be a uniform pink colour. Hope this helps. All the best, John 😊

The flatter the ceiling is pre skim the more likely it is to all be pink together without any browner patches at the end within 30 mins of finishing the colour will start to change

Robert Pearson yeah, that makes sense. Thanks. I think it definitely adds to the colouration but what I’m talking about I’m thinking is more to do with the water content and troweling the fat. It’s hard to explain and I’m just being a perfectionist. I’ve not been very clear. The plaster always looks pink when it’s dried it’s just not one complete uniform colour. Subtle differences that don’t effect the smoothness or paintability.

Quality work yet again👍

Just so you're aware, this was a demonstration of how to get a very wavy ceiling nice and flat. The client wasn't charged for the work, so I wasn't "milking the client dry." Different people work in different ways, and there have been many different opinions in the comments of this video. We try and show our viewers how we like to achieve the highest possible standard in our work, and in this scenario bonding out the ceiling first was (in our opinion) the best course of action. If that's not how you would do things, then that's up to you. Thanks for watching. John 👷🏼‍♂️

Check out part two of this video, where I use a proper bucket 😋 Thanks for watching. All the best, John 😊

😂 I'm definitely not a scientist!

The wall was battoned as there was previously a damp issue. The walls have been treated, then battoned with vertical damp behind and boarded with vapour check board. The picture rail has been designed in such a way as to disguise the battons, and actually looks really good 👍🏻 Thanks for watching. All the best, John

Disagree about let me tell you they'll be hollows !! No there won't be even labourer doesn't get them if still getting hollows after serving time plasterer something is wrong eye gone or can't be fucked laying on all over the place don't know how to deal with multi.. all done with trowel aswell fucking speedskim bollox if you can't use a trowel to get stuff flat why bother

Hi Ryan, I totally agree with your points. We all have our own methods and so long as the end result is perfect, then that's all that matters 👍🏻 Thanks for watching. All the best, John

@@BuildWithAE great work buddy glad someone is actually explaining the reason behind what your doing and when i said about not the way i would of done it I was referring too scrim over the screws as I've never had a problem but end of the if you've had that problem i don't blame you always good too cover your own back keep up the good videos mate your definitely doing a great job in helping people and giving tips

They don’t seem to work like that, do things properly

In my opinion it's better to bond out first to make sure everything's nice and level before you skim. But we all have our own way of doing things. Thanks for watching. All the best, John 😊

It's here forever more now at least Chuck - thanks again and take care 👍

Sorry did you just say 2 men would get two 3 bedroom houses done in a day ?

@@mickygism Ceilings ... Yes ... not the walls as well, that would be another two days 👍😎

@@CheckFred ok 👌 That makes sense

Hi Nathan, Since training as a plasterer about 15 years ago, I have worked with many spreads. I have learned that we all have different methods, approaches and ideals, and that different working environments call for specific requirements. If a plasterer is working on a new build site, then their approach would differ from that of someone who has the time to ensure that the job is carried out to the highest possible standard. By no means am I saying that site plasterers care less, or provide lower quality work, I am merely saying that they wouldn't have time to bond out a ceiling to get it perfectly flat (I would hope that a brand new ceiling wouldn't need to be bonded, as it would already be flat). This ceiling was in a Victorian property, and there was a huge amount of discrepancy (nearly 30mm in places), especially around the edges where the boards met the coving. There is no doubt in my mind, that 30mm could not of been flattened out without first applying a coat of bonding. If you feel that the way I work is inferior to you, then that's your opinion, and you're entitled to it. John

@@BuildWithAE it's all good John you should know we are in the bitchyess trade of them all I just can't work out why you would make more work for yourself charge customer extra etc if gaps are 30 mm doesn't bonding only cover 25 mm cheaper to double board ? And i mention the way you work it's slow and your making a video obviously but different when doing like 3 bag sets 3 times a day on your own kind of changes the way you go about everything I know what you mean about site work it is completely different spread that doesn't have to worry about dropping it on carpet etc.. it just seems like your milking it haha I'm only having laugh John just like picking brains I've never had to work site or sell my soul get those domestic jobs just do couple jobs for the best builders in the area and your sorted.. also is that room decked out low ceiling or your 7ft 3 🤣 what are the chances of that happening being able to just walk around chilling putting ceiling on no hop op or stilts +

@@BuildWithAE and also doing patches of bonding everywhere could if done tight coat over it all after so all same level and go off at same time your risking getting inconsistent finish like this?

The ceiling was way out, in many places. One side of the ceiling in particular dived up towards the coving by about 20mm. If it was just skimmed, then how would you pull that much discrepancy out? Skim shouldn't be applied any thicker than about 3mm...

Hi Andy, This is a demonstration video in which I am talking to the viewer about the processes involved in this specific job. It is by no means a representation of the speed at which I can plaster, nor is it a representation of how many bags of plaster I can use in a day. It's not a competition, it's a how to video. Thanks for watching. John