How to Play THREE Against FOUR Rhythms on the Piano [Feat. Chopin Fantasie Impromptu]

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The Piano Prof | Kate Boyd

The Piano Prof | Kate Boyd

Күн бұрын

This video is about how to play three against four rhythms on the piano. I give you a detailed approach to learning the three against four polyrhythm with specific progressive exercises and practice suggestions.  Throughout, I'll show you how to approach the three against four polyrhythm when it appears in an actual piece of music using Chopin's Fantasie Impromptu as an example.
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TIME STAMPS
0:00 Intro
0:54 Why do composers write polyrhythms?
2:20 How to practice 3 against 4 polyrhythms at a fast tempo
4:33 How to use mnemonic devices to remember 3 against 4
6:42 How to figure out the math for polyrhythms
8:17 Common errors when playing 3 against 4
10:46 Exercises to practice 3 against 4 rhythms
12:48 3- vs 4-note broken chords
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@ThePianoProfKateBoyd
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd 6 ай бұрын
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@helenwalker2121
@helenwalker2121 26 күн бұрын
I’m just learning this piece after avoiding it for 40 year. I avoided it because of the polyrhythm. You’ve explained it so well. Thank you.
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd 25 күн бұрын
Wonderful! Good luck with it!!
@stereo123
@stereo123 8 күн бұрын
"Golden butter" keeps our grandmas happy, haha, so wholesome
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd 2 күн бұрын
😇
@rmcaulif
@rmcaulif 12 күн бұрын
Very helpful! I have never heard of the butter or apple mnemonic device before
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd 12 күн бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@steggisawrus
@steggisawrus 6 ай бұрын
I just applied and practiced these techniques to understand the rhythm and play of some measures in Chopin’s Ballade number 1 (specifically measures 170-175) and it not only helped learning it immensely, it made understanding it more fun! Thank you so much for this video!
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd 6 ай бұрын
Wonderful! Glad to hear it!
@MotifMusicStudios
@MotifMusicStudios 11 күн бұрын
Fantastic lesson on this topic!
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd Күн бұрын
Thanks! 😃
@nickk8416
@nickk8416 5 ай бұрын
I loved your explanation of why Chopin used these polyrhythms and what it sounded like if he didn't use them. Amazing the difference. I've always struggled a little with these as in Debussy Arabesque and Brahms 118 #2. All are some of my favorites. I cant wait to try this. Thank You Prof Kate!
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd 5 ай бұрын
Yay! Good luck!
@PsychHacks
@PsychHacks 6 ай бұрын
Great advice. Love the silent hand exercise. I hope your students appreciate you.
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd 6 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@user-bz2qc3jq7f
@user-bz2qc3jq7f 4 ай бұрын
Thank you so, so much for this video and all of the others you have created. I hope you know that you are REALLY helping me and I’m sure loads of other people. I so appreciate the time you take to put these videos together. You are an amazing musician and teacher, and it is so generous of you to share your knowledge with the rest of us.
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd 4 ай бұрын
Thanks so much - your comment made my day! Happy practicing!😊 🎹
@user-wz2dg7zc4m
@user-wz2dg7zc4m 6 ай бұрын
Thank you
@dr_ned_flanders
@dr_ned_flanders 6 ай бұрын
I think this was very good advice. Thank you.
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd 6 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@Jcorban08
@Jcorban08 5 ай бұрын
Many thanks! Looking forward to your July OMTA presentation 🎹
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd 5 ай бұрын
Thanks! Me too! 🥳
@danielaperisse5614
@danielaperisse5614 3 ай бұрын
Love it! Love your class! From Brasil. Thank you! Now, I know!!
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment - good luck with your polyrhythms! Greetings from Indianapolis! 😊🎹
@pguyer
@pguyer 2 ай бұрын
I've struggled with the 4 against 3 in the Debussy Prelude from Suite Pour le Piano in measures 75-90 especially the 2nd figure where not only do you have the 4/3 pattern but it's slurred in a hemiola grouping. Any suggestions? Thanks!! P.S. Love your channel.
@hippophile
@hippophile 6 ай бұрын
Yay, another great explanation! I had to work this out for myself for 'cello playing a long time back as a child, essentially the maths way. But having switched to the piano, I can see it is not really sufficient for the Fantaisie-Impromptu. Your explanation of learning the two hands separately will be really useful when I come to try it! Sometime soon I hope, 2024 or 2025 maybe? I am not really a hands separate learner by instinct (I separate hands to solve problems and work out dynamics etc, but generally start both hands together slowly), but having a go at Rach Prelude Op 23#6 (a tough piece for me) I have been forced to admit it is necessary for some pieces! 🙂
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd 6 ай бұрын
Great - good luck with the Rachmaninoff! Sometimes hands separate practice in tricky sections can be a time-saver, as it gives your brain the bandwidth to fully understand what each hand is doing.
@jcappo152
@jcappo152 5 ай бұрын
3v5. Another great tip.
@a.a.dehulster7567
@a.a.dehulster7567 5 ай бұрын
Works very well that “I would like some apples” Thank you! I tough myself Liszts Consolation 3 and played the 4 embellishments notes in the right hand in measures 6,10,22 27, etc. (last beat) conform the 3 against 4, as the score suggests. But then a professional concert pianist told me that the 4 embellishment notes should not be played like 3 against 4 in this piece. Just before the last of the triplets is played in the left hand the 4th note in the right hand has to be sounded he said and demonstrated it. Play 4 just before the last of the 3 triplets is played😳He had no mnemonic or math to make it clear. And it looks impossible to me to calculate that. I finally managed to play it like him but it remains a mystery. Do you have a clue?
@brandonsurowiec8789
@brandonsurowiec8789 6 ай бұрын
If one can't play one hand silently on the piano, an alternative could be to play one hand on your leg and the other on the piano.
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd
@ThePianoProfKateBoyd 6 ай бұрын
Yes! Great suggestion!
@user-fj3tn2xz9c
@user-fj3tn2xz9c 5 ай бұрын
Can I see a book?
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