I agree. When someone is removed from the church rolls, does that include what amounts to being shunned by the members?

@@mtnairpilot I don't think shunning is the right answer. You can still be polite, but choose not to spend time with them. Shunning would include ignoring someone in public, which is too far.

​@mattprater8828 What do you think about an unrepentant thief in the church that they overlook because he does so much free labor for the church?

I didn't see the connection between church discipline & Lk.11:17. Help me out here. What are you seeing that I am missing here?

@@johndufford5561 I think he is implying that when you "divide" the church it will go against itself and fell. Which is totaly false. You "divide" some poeple in order to save the church. Its ofc about purity, not numbers.

unfaithful and most likely unqualified

No, they are complementarianism.

@@JayantSinghBisht that's right. My mistake. It was the Southern Baptist Convention that was making women pastors and there was a big to do about allegations of sexual abuse (allegedly). That's a shame , I grew up in a southern Baptist church.

@jamesmorgan2064 The Southern Baptist Convention did not ordain a woman in the role of pastor. A church that identified with the SBC, in California (Saddleback Baptist Church), ordained 3 women under the title pastor. They do not serve in the “lead pastor” role however they were given the title pastor. The SBC debated this issue and formed committees to address the situation. I’m sure we will hear more of this during their next meeting, which I believe is Feb. 2023.

@@danielsimpson3884 Saddleback church is kicked out of SBC as of now March, 2023.

Very thought provoking. I’ve learned that the church is NOT practicing this. In my large extended family the young adults are not getting married and they are having children out of wedlock. What do my Christian relatives do? They throw a baby shower to the young woman openly living with the man and professes to be a Christian. I have gone to some of my relatives, privately, and had some really good talks with them about God’s will for their lives. (They say they believe in Jesus). What I do is largely ineffective when other believers throw a party for that person. Same with the church. They have a “hands off” approach. I think because they want the person to continue to come, even sporadically. But I can tell you these young people think what they are doing is okay. I’m 63 yo and I don’t think I have ever seen the church discipline. But I have seen the fallout because they aren’t.