One thing I've learned from both Bach and Beethoven is when you do something, also do it in reverse. The unnaturalness of going around the circle of 4ths backwards helps cement things in your mind/brain. Going up Chromatically then going back down. Same for thirds, same for both Whole Tones and Diminished. Mon/Thur, Tues/Fri, Wed/Sat. You can practice all 12 keys 6 times in 3 different ways and really Internalize the Tune. Also if you want to play fast, learn something slow in Quarter notes right before bedtime, then first thing in the Morning play it at the same tempo in 8th notes, then 16th notes, then 32 Notes, then drop back to 16th Notes. You'll quadruple your speed in less than 24hrs and the Accuracy will amaze you.

This series is ridiculously great

The All Key dilemma was correctly explained to me about 20 years ago by a top notch Classical Trombonist. He insisted that all musicians should be able to play in all keys. My reply was that only jazz musicians did that kind of practice and he proceeded to play difficult trombone parts in all keys. This went one for about 30 minutes and I was convinced that all musicians should learn themes and music in all keys by EAR. The reason he gave was that he got tired of reading clef changes during a performance. He could read the clef but for him it was easier to just think in other keys rather than reading the music. This was music that had several modulations and was in the high tessatura for trombone. Good Teaching in your video!

Adam: 05:20 practice ALL keys in the circle of fourths (anticlockwise), starting from Db. Very good idea Adam.. you certainly are an excellent teacher! All the best Ray Brown

It's reassuring to know that even you guys struggle with this and that it's often "not comfortable" in certain keys. Sometimes your videos can be basically highlight reels of bad-assness, so it's nice to sometimes go through the struggle with you. Thanks for the amazing content. Back to the shed!

My all keys practice routine that's working well for me is I work 1 major key and its parallel minor for 2 days. I tried plowing through many keys in one sitting, but I didn't retain much that way. Staying in 1 key for a week took too long for me to get through all of them. You kinda have to spend time in a key to get it to settle and get comfortable, but you obviously want to get through them in a reasonable amount of time. This way has been working the best for me. It's kinda fun. You get good at transposing, become more fluent, and you don't dread any keys as being hard anymore.

I'm a bass player. Personally I'm learning Autumn leaves in all 12 keys. Mastering all my 2 5 1 major/minor. It helps me a lot to understand the mechanism of each key. Afterwards I'll do the same with Blues for Alice and tunes like Misty n All the things you are. Everytime I'm Learning a new key I'll just write down the progressions tothese tunes just to figure out how they look like in that particular key.

Hi Peter and Adam. I'm loving your podcast episodes here on KZfaq. Greetings from Brazil.

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WAITING this for sooo long........great going guys i love your channel. 🎶🎶👍🏼

This is amazing, love the way you talk about these ideas!

Great podcast thank you for sharing.

Excellent ideas guys! Thank you.

One big plus of practising chromatically is its application to playing tunes because it is common to change key a half step up and down.

circle of fourths in small increments,a line,a scale,working up to longer things like melodies or changes,and slowly,the key to speed is accuracy.metronome is quite helpful,playing on the click then using the click as the high hat on two and four to start with.

All good advice !!

Love the channel guys! One of the ways I like to practice all 12 keys, aside from circle of 4ths and chromatic is by moving through all of the interval groups. Expanding on the Chromatic method.. So, chromatic, whole tones, minor 3rds, major 3rds etc. It takes a little while in a practice session, but I like what it accomplishes!

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You guys are the best, I cant find a better resource of learning jazz piano than you guys, and i really love your style of playing. Keep on, Openstudio!

This is really helpful! Really appreciate! Thank you guys!

Thanks, guys!

I have a notebook full of concepts, chord voicings and moves. I try to always work on learning them in all 12 keys but I keep discovering too much to have time to practice every concept in 12 keys but for sure it's a huge thing in developing as a musician.

Some great info here. I need to start practicing in all keys.

Thanks have been wondering how to practice this effectively recently

This is great! Thank you guys

Great stuff guys

You guys are very different from each other, and watching you guys work together and be patient with each other really makes for a good combination. You work and explain things super well when you guys let each other flow. It makes me feel comfortable expressing my knowledge seeing two very different people teach from different perspectives and energy levels.

So inspiring! You guys are such pros!! I can do baby steps in all 12 keys, like the first two measures of something and it hurts my brain! I know you respect Aimee Nolte, so I don't mind mentioning that she has an unedited video of her practicing Misty in all 12 keys that is also inspiring, complete with the parts that are hard for her. Thank you for all you do! And I dig the new pod suite....movin on up ya'll are!!

My fav podcast out there! Keep doing this!!!

Thanks for this as always. You guys are great. Please include camera so we can see the fingers and we can check the fingerings

one of my favorite topics!, I started by playing the first 20 Hanon exercises going around the circle of 4ths, then set a goal of playing 12 Joplin rags in all 12 keys (which I never finished, I got through 6 rags and moved on to other music), then went back to Hanon and played them all backwards in all 12 keys. These things took a couple years total. I learned a lot about fingering (I do not follow Hanon fingering, I worked out what I think is a better way), and a lot about chord theory (eg Joplin rags almost always end with vi-ii-V-I, sometimes VI-II-V-I, and the last beat of every measure has a diminished harmony note) Any time I have trouble fingering or timing anything I resort to playing that measure or two in all twelve keys, by the time I get back to the key its written in all the fingering, timing, and rhythm problems are smoothed out. What I'd really like to have are 30 blues riffs to practice in all 12 keys the way I did the 20 Hanon exercises (I did find a book "Blues Hanon" but nothing in it was recognizable as a riff so I was a bit disappointed), any chance you guys could cook up such a collection, some of the "practice in all keys, 30 day challenge" were riffs and would be a good start ?

You two cats are more entertaining AND informative than you realize. It reminds me of my days (YEARS) of yore being in a room of likeminded music buddies just shooting the s@&#. Ah, when time was plentiful and slow. Speaking of… I purchased one of your courses months ago but have yet to dive in (that time thing again), and I was wondering if you might do a segment on the psychological barriers we put on ourselves- like the guilt in devoting ME time over life’s responsibilities? I think that’d be a BIG help for people like me that still have a mental barrier (fear?) to pursuing our true love. 🎹

yeah! Russel Crow is quite the moosic noob! Lovin it!

Try practice scale in fiths BUT don’t start from the root. If you start att Db, start att Db. Then when Gb comes start on Db( Db, Eb, F Gb etc) Then B (C#, D#, E,F# etc ) So you’ll can get every key but stay in one place

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👏👏 I admire your dexterity Sirs. That is my challenge Sir. How can I improve?

When I pick up my instrument, whichever it happens to be, I play my Warm-ups, which include at least scales and arpeggios, In what I call: (taped to my music stand,) "Key of day," Mon_Gb, B Tue_C,E Wed_F,A Thu_Bb, D Fri_ Eb,G Sat_Ab,C Sun_Db,F# Majors & relative minors and they all get gotten to eventually

20 years ago. Came up with the Bead system..I am sure that it's not new. I drew it out. [ (B E A D) G C F (Bb Eb Ab Db) Gb Cb] Learnable in a minute...this literally has given me anew way to think about things. I started to play in Db and actually it has a beautiful sound in itself. I noticed that a beginner can hit a Ab chord or octatave base on left hand and just sweep the black keys in any direction. It is be beautiful. The notes are Db Eb Gb Ab Bb. A good thing to do is to use a spiral. notebook. I write out the diatonic 7ths Db Maj7 a the way to Cmin7b5..It helps to make a better player. A good practice is to get some sheet music paper and write out the chords in both treble and cleft. Always can go to Wikipedia or the like and copy their info.

Sometimes during the intros, I get a very Jim Halpert/Michael Scott vibe from Adam and Peter.

Amazing!!!!! Thank you so much!!!! Make a video about playing outside!

You guys rock-ignore the haters! Free killer content what's to hate

At 15:18..You did an F blues and then what..I could guess..what was the logic in that part. Enjoying the technique exploration. When playing the downward motions are genenerally easier by a little thing that causes things to fall at 9.8 meters /sec squared. Newton and his Apple. In fact the unnatural movement of any digit up to a black key would be good exercise. I am not referring to a thumb over type situation.

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You guys are sadistic. In a good way. You’ve managed to put the torture back into practice, Just the way we like it

Cb C C# - F F# Bb B - Eb E - Ab A - Db D - Gb G - Whatever I practice in C gets practiced in Cb and C# before moving to F. Cb and C# have no common notes with C, but the names of the notes are the same (ex. a second degree will always be a “D”, sharp or flat). In this way you are transposing to a distant key while staying conceptually close. This has helped me a lot and I hope it helps you too!

What is the software you guys are using for the screen keyboard.

So bottom line is that we should sometimes go up chromatically with the same voicing, sometimes go up a fourth / down a fifth but changing inversions?

Very good 👍 Can you share the sheet of the theme?

After years of pedantic practice you play in all keys quite intuitively and it works pretty well. But not in B and Bb. In contrast to the other keys, they don't want to work out of the muscle memory straight away, I always have to think first and exactly imagine the pattern. Although there are still some incorrect notes when playing. These two seem to be cursed.

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Just curious, what type of negative comments can people say about your informative, comprehensive and phenomenal show? I don’t of anything you don’t cover!

That woo at 12:20.... me too man

Hello, I like you and your channel and your T-shirt! That's all (easy comment)! 😃

9:01 _Bird Up!_

Hit the harder keys first. Makes so much sense - you are right🙌🏾.

how do you deal with slow finger movements to get faster?

please make a tutorial on how to play the "You'll Hear It" theme song?

What song is this at 4:08?

What I do is to work on a silly standard in TWO KEYS. Main reason is if I can't seem to get it in one key, I play it in a 'simpler' key or one that I can handle (default is Key of C or Bb). Yeh. I don't practice much anymore except to learn something in different keys just to do it. In reality, everyone around here plays chestnuts in the same key signature because...you know...you don't have to think about it. The only ones who need help with keys are singers and so if you can do it, help them out. Oh yeah. As a pianist IT'S PERFECTLY FINE TO PLAY ROOT NOTES IN THE LOWER REGISTER WHEN FORMING CHORDAL ACCOMPANIMENT IN ANY SETTING. This is a big middle finger to bassists who get butthurt when pianist crawl down to 'their space'. It's stupid and it's the way some classless, fearful bass players interact with people. If you're a young'un reading this, REMEMBER THAT. A good slap in the face to a bassist at a gig will help clear things up quickly. LOL!!

What's the into song?

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As a gospel musician, those keys he mentioned around 6:00 aren’t hard keys. The hardest keys are my strongest. Obviously I don’t know any jazz standards yet. Funny how music works depending on the genre and background.

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Guilty. I used to go around the circle regularly, but for some reason stopped. I'll practice all 12 keys now in all 12 keys and hopefully I'll be good to go.

1) when learning songs, do you learn by bass or melody first? 2) What licks and improv go with what chords and progressions? 3) can you break down different descending runs in different keys with proper crossovers. Major and minor pentatonic, blues, bebop. Others 4) walk ups and walk downs, circles and other chromatic and 2-5-1 progressions different on organ and piano. 5) Different approaches in routes and passings for minor, major, talk music, preaching chords, shouts, worship, praise and jams.. 6) Do you prefer organists or keyboardist? Can you be busy on keys like you can on organ? Thanks So much!!!

I'm nearly sixty and only started learning piano last year. I don't have enough time left to practise in all keys! Can you guys recommend a good one to stick with and I'll just use the transpose switch? BTW, loving your channel from a depressing bit of northern England.

This is way over my head

8:02 the "oh my voicings are so hip" face

Okay now mashup your 7 funkest Breaks/Intros with practicing in 12 keys that should leave you head spinning like after a Funkadelics concert.

The problem with taking things through the keys chromatically on guitar is that the fingerings stay identical and your brain just shuts off as muscle memory takes over. Different challenges for different instruments.

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so bought myself a piano. bloody hell its hard...

Hey guys! Sorry to hear you got bad comments - where anybody with a clear mind only can wonder what‘s going on there. As a musician and Christian I sometimes get entangled in these bad comments when I just cannot stomach them - and ever so often find confirmed what I read that so many of them are only copied and pasted on dozends or hundreds clips - regardless what the clips are about. So be encouraged and thanks for great inspiration! Cheers from Hamburg!

For me the benefit of 12 keys is little to do with being able to play in 12 keys. It's about abstracting the musical idea from the particular notes in a key so that you hear in intervals and patterns not notes.

I cracked up at 5:29

isn't there 30 key's? C major w/ no flats or sharps G, D, A, E, B, F#, C# w/ sharps and F, Bb, Eb, Ab, Db, Gb, Cb w/ flats. then double it for the minors?

This guy was ok but I prefer the guy with the hat!! Bring him back 👍

One thought I've had is that if you're strictly following the alphabetical rule, the circle of fifths doesn't really make any sense. In one direction, you're only adding sharps, and in the other you're only adding flats. They don't magically shift if you don't make them. So if you don't want to have to learn an infinite number of keys, you have to break the alphabetical rule somewhere. I have not tried this yet, but I just had the thought that if you started at C# major and worked around the circle of fourths until you get to Cb major, you would hit every key, AND you'd cover both versions of the keys with 5, 6, and 7 sharps or flats. If you can shift in any of those three tonalities, you should be good, right? I'll try it for a couple of days, and let you guys know if it's worth practicing like this or not.

Peter is a great player and seems better than Adam as a player. But I can tell Adam is a better "teacher". Peter seems like he'd frustrate an aspiring player during a lesson haha. He seems like he'll just do more jamming out then teaching haha. Btw I recommend their website. Good content

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Did you write the Plant vs Zombies jingle?

5:16 I didn't subscribe for the podcast stuff. Can you just get straight to the point? I don't care about your comments on Rick Beato I was interested in the theme but I'm very tempted of closing the video

It would have been nice if you could play it very slow first

Hey guys, you are really awesome. But when you carry on doing this great tutorials, nobody will buy your courses anymore, because it is all already there on YT :-) No ... just kidding ... I've bought a lot of courses from you.

Really "dislike" Beato, especially based on his comments on music ed. But still love you two. Still waiting on that "You'll Hear It" jazz scarf. Also waiting on you two to visit my request on using the melody in your solo. What do I gots to do to see that episode? I could... say "please?" Signed, Mr. Spaceman.

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Hahahahanits so funny in a very serious and sad way how everyone is so effected by the comments , it’s really sad that Americans love tearing others down , that said you both do a great job and you’re providing a free service that if these shit talkers were capable enough they could learn a lot from your free videos so yeah fuck them you both rule

I just got introduced to that song. I looked it up.. musicnotes.com has a sample free screen shot. Even without the piano in front of me..I can tell this song really moves...I think that it will be fun one to improvise on the piano. PIANOSTYLE100.

Eb easy??? it's one of the worst for me

12 keys that's it? try practicing in all 30 keys

this is a negative comment >:(

Keys are way to loud, can’t hear any of the commentary over them

Rick Beato??? I have Rick Beato blocked!!!

These videos are enjoyable. But please do not start playing the piano when somebody is trying to speak. Often Peter starts playing and going into "the zone" when Adam is trying to make a point. It is just rude and frustrating.

Ugh.... ‘we are better than most musicians’.... that’s so cringe even if it’s true. You know how non beneficial that is for everyone to hear that and for yourself actually thinking that? This was such a good video until you said that garbage. MARK MY WORDS, THIS is why people hate the jazz community.

Just excellent tips and advise, thanks