Oh my gosh, that is such a tough situation when people you know have that mindset!

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Everybody also asks me that and I get mad but they get mad at me when I say no

See people at my school will pay vut they want it at a cheap price that could even be half the price

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I totally agree that everyone should be fairly treated for their time and effort that goes into whatever it is they do!!

Hi from 2024

And its tks time too...

I understand the idea but I don't think it is smart. You are going to get better and faster, but your product prices shouldn't get cheaper just because you are more efficient. The amount that you spent won't reflect the worth of the item because it took you so long to get to a point where you can make them quicker.

@@pinkmuffin9842 Even if you get better over the years and make them a little bit quicker, it all still takes time. Time that the creator did not have to put in to make the piece, but they did. So whether they take 2 hours or 10 hours, they're still entitled to be paid a fair and reasonable amount for their time. You also have to take into account going around to different shops and buying the materials. Time to pick the right colours, textures, materials, etc to go together. And other time consuming moments that ALL goes into creating beautiful craft pieces. It's not just only about the time they spent actually on each individual piece.

Unfortunately, the "factory made" mentality led the world to think, "Oh, that should be inexpensive." However, unlike your daughter-in-law, there are people out there who realize that a machine CAN NOT make crochet anything! It is impossible! Trust me, there are people out there who will appreciate your hard work and be willing to pay a price worth all of it. Especially if you explain on your Etsy shop a breakdown of cost of supplies, hours, etc. I recommend you ask your Daughter-in-law why she thinks it would be only worth $10. If she says anything about being able to find it in a store for about that price, you should explain to her that any crochet item of that nature found in a store that is not priced for a much higher amount is not factory made, but more than likely made in a sweat shop, in a foreign country, in which the person who actually made it will only be paid (if they are lucky) $0.50. That might help her to appreciate and value your crochet projects more. Also, really emphasize that there is no factory machine in the world (other than the human machine) that can produce crochet products... unlike kitting.

You could def sell that on etsy for 40 bucks at LEAST. I know that's still very little for labour but that's what I would be pricing it as. Also I've heard penny, nickel, and dime a stich depending on level of crochet

Nah that's something made by hand, and even though your DIL wouldn't clearly appreciate it (10 dollars is atrocious, you get a cheap crappy factory doll with that price!) there are some people that will. Maybe they won't find your artwork in a day or a month, but know that some people do respect handmade works. You'd be also surprised how willing some (pressure on SOME) people are willing to pay for things, regardless if handmade or not. You can put the doll on sale for as much as you want, there's still a big chance that someone sees and wants to buy it. 30-40 dollars is quite realistic. It won't pay rent, but more like a sideline hobby/thing.

If you had a knitting machine, and it was electric, I might charge 30 cents an hour. But 200 percent for materials!

But also is that 30 active hours or 30 while stopping to chat, look up at your show, take phone call, answer texts? Just out of curiosity. I make bags that are 2 hours worth of time but I take like 5 hours (or more) to make each cuz I also put on my favorite show. Also the more you make the better your time gets. My mom makes dolls and sells them 100-120 as a starting price. Those who buy them cherish them for their uniqueness and the effort that went into them. There is a market for them. But also your daughter in law sucks. Knowing someone put so much effort into something (even if all she knew was you made it) and give such a shitty answer?! Id throw her in the trash. If she ever asks you for $10 tell her it’ll cost her a handmade doll, watch her either learn or show her ungrateful true colors even more

You're so right! And this simpler equation doesn't even account for many of the other costs that go into an item! I always advocate for people to price items that are fair to their time and effort!

I don't under value myself I want people to be able to afford it and be happy at all ages so kids with £5 pocket money at a market can get my £2.50 crochet head bands and kids keychains. I know what it's like not having much money so I price mine by full price of the ball or how many I use and add £1 for every 100g of the items weight and then add £3 for my time I'm not about making massive money I'm about making people happy.

I understand how to price something but my question is what is an appropriate hourly rate

@michelecurtis887 don't need one actually cause crochet is a hobby and not even laberous work I charge the materials, 50p per 100g of weight of item and then £1.50 work charge and I've made over £1k from £140 worth of yarn so really you don't need to charge a hourly rate.

I'm an amateur , how do they f o it I don't think I'm good enough sometimes

Wow!!!

O hella goodness

You can sell patterns instead!

Hi there! We can help with bulk crochet apparel manufacturing and can show you a dozen design what we have already performed and delivered around the globe! 🙏🤗

Same!

Nice! It's awesome you've developed your own system that works for you! I think everyone should have a go-to formula for pricing they are comfortable with! ❤️😊

Can you expand on this? So say something took you 10 hours to make are you counting that as $10 or are you multiplying the number of hours by the hourly pay you want to make?

​@@meganwest5486 Let's say you make pins (bc thats what i make lol). Lets say you take 3 hours to make one, and you take 10$ per hour. You do 3 times 10, which makes it 30$ Your final price is gonna be 30$ + the materials cost (and other fees)

I knew this formula from very long time.. But iam always confused about deciding the hourly rate for myself.. When I asked few experts they told me that the hourly rate is something how much u want to earn for yourself.. Usually if it's a job our salary our hourly rate gets Increased based on the experience but when it comes to art we just can't increase our hourly rate just like that because it comes to the matter if affordability and we may end up with less sales too.. Can anyone please guide me with how can we decide our hourly rate???

Thank you so much!❤

People who don't craft often don't understand the time and material costs of projects! In their minds, they see a blanket and only have the reference point of blankets from stores. I think it's totally reasonable to have the customer pay for the yarn!

Is that like $25USD? For a KING?!

Fuck that. I would have said $250 at minimum. That’s too big of a blanket and a complex pattern to only get £90.

😭😭😭 even without the cost of materials or extra for profit, a month and a half of work is worth at least 3-5× that.

@@TLRB86no it’s about $112 US which is still not enough

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Omg lmao When I told my dad how long these things make he sent me to the store to get supplies, paid for it so I could make extra cash at no cost

That’s what my nan said 🤣 I made a massive cow and she goes ‘sell it for £5’ like sorryyyyyy?🤣

Oooh Grandpa!… still living in 1960’s prices? Hahaha! Yup! I remember my $0.25 cent allowance per week got me a pop (that we had to use a metal bottle opener with), and small bag of chips and an Archie comic book! Highlight of my week and that was the late 60’s, early 70’s! 😂 Dear delusional old people! Hahaha!

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That's totally OK! I'm glad you have a system that works for you :) The important thing is that you feel like you are being fairly compensated!

Even I price like that. Material cost x3. Because it is very difficult for me to calculate the time taken

That's a totally different approach I didn't think of! Thank you for sharing! ❤️

Hi there! We can help with bulk crochet apparel manufacturing and can show you a dozen design what we have already performed and delivered around the globe! 🙏🤗

This is awesome. I crochet at a slower pace so that actually works well for me.

Could you break down your calculation further? How exactly are you pricing per inch? I can't seem to come up with the $13.60 based on the example you gave. I want to test this method because I struggle to keep up with how long it takes me to finish a product because of juggling 3 kids while I work on orders. And how fast i go varies, so seems unfair to base my prices on how long it takes me.

I like this, per inch u say. That is fr labour charge? I crochet when i want to n i want to sell them but i find it difficult to price them.

That's the wonderful thing about doing your own pricing: you can do what makes sense to you!! 😁 And with crochet, it can get much more complicated with a variety of factors going into time and costs! Thank you for sharing your system with me and everyone! 😊😁

Your idea it’s great I’m going to a market soon and I’m selling some crochet plushies this has really helped,Tysm :)

@@AND.I.OOP_ Glad it helped, have fun at the market!!

@@dadtookmytv Ty

I love this even though I don’t sell my projects. The minimum hourly wage in my country would be ≈14 us dollars 😭😭

I'm very sorry you've had that experience! :(

Right??? Someone wanted a super bulky chenille yarn queen sized blanket and I told them it would be $800....they were like "oh, what? I was thinking like $200 lmfao!!¡ The yarn alone would cost me like $400 and you're paying for my time. Plus it's handmade in the USA by me an will last over 10 years. People just don't get it ugh

I'm sorry for that. Are you selling on the web, or at creators markets ? Personnally I don't sell a lot on the web, because of the dropshipping concurrence (and I don't have much time to crochet these days), but people who go to artist's/small creators markets are usually aware that homemade goods takes a lot of time, and are willing to pay for it :) One of my friends told me to not be afraid to set your price, because you will attract customers who are ready to pay more for a handmade good

One of my favorite things ever is talking with you guys! 😊 And I'm glad I can provide some valuable insights for you!

Hi camryn, can you like give us a shoutout to all crochet lovers who would like to develop crochet dresses / rompers etc in bulk we can definitely work things out … Would help a lot !!! Thanks. 😊

Hey there! I actually totally agree with so many of your points! In actuality, I use a tool I created called the Handmade Pricing Calculator, which does incorporate so many of those additional costs, as well as calculating in a desired profit percentage! I have a whole video talking about it, if you're interested! I am a firm believe in people pricing what they believe is fair to them and their effort! This simple system here establishes the base price to cover your time and materials, as you said! Thank you for your input! :)

Most people are not running a crochet business as their full time job, it's more like a hobby that can be a side hustle or at least pay for itself instead of costing money

It's tough when people who don't often engage with the handmade world how very different perceptions of value! I get many people who have similar mindsets, not knowing the different degrees of effort, care, and love that go into handmade products! ❤️

remind them that crochet is a HANDMADE ONLY craft and is a LUXURY ITEM, if they want cheap then they shouldn’t buy crochet

That's so awesome you have system that works for you! :)

Thank you! The way you explained it helps.

How much you charge per hour, plz help me. I am so confused,

@@pikapipikapi5950 Did you see the examples I left above?

That's not cool at all, especially for clothes. It takes so much time and yarn for some of them and every work deserves something in return. I hope she will understand that she's the selfish one here 💀

I am so sorry! Clothing can take an especially long time to make, and are often much more complicated!

Out of respect for you and your sister I will not share my initial thoughts, but if she was my sister, no more for her very ungrateful.

How much money you charge the customer per hour of work you put in to the project hope that helps❤❤

@@Grayson-nk3hj thank you!!

I am, and I don't know what she's saying either.🧐

@@zeemc2751Ik is 7:70 an hour

How much yarn you used for the project! I like to weigh it :)

@@camryns_cute_creations okay. Thank you

​@@camryns_cute_creations how much do you price for 1 gram of yarn?

​@@Venielyyit depends how much the ball of yarn is. Then weigh it. If you used half the ball of yarn only charge half the yarn cost. If you use two and a half balls of yarn then multiple by 2 the yarn cost and add half of one

​@@Venielyynot sure if that made total sense but 🤷🏽‍♀️🤠

I love that you have a system that works for you! :) ❤️

Love it... God provides 🥰❤️

This is beautiful. He's the best guide we could ask for. I may do the same!

Then you adjust and swallow the loss in time

I totally understand that! Certainly this is not a blanket demand of pricing, but more of a starting point to make sure people are at least being compensated fairly for their time and materials! If that number ends up being too high for comfort, I encourage people to adjust it as needed!

Prices will totally fluctuate based on location! Having lower selling prices could make you more competitive on online platforms, or you could raise the selling price to be more inline with other sellers and make more relative to the material costs!

@@camryns_cute_creations btw ty for the advice

Wow! That's a cheap hourly rate!

Heck.. wish it was cheap to ship to the US bc I'd buy yarn from you for double what u pay

in my country also! the 50g of yarn only cost 0.36$ but i rate myself 0.90$ per hr

It's a really good basic starting point! Once more costs become a factor (packaging, shipping, markets fees, etc.) prices need to be adjusted, but I think this is a simply and quick jumping off point!

Hey there! This is certainly a simplified version of how I price using my Pricing Calculator, but I'd love to answer any specific questions you have if you ever want! Just send me an email :)

@camryns_cute_creations Okay! And thank you for replying. I will be sure to email you. If that is no trouble to you that is. ^^

You could start with minimum wage for your area as a baseline and adjust accordingly with your skill level. So if you’re a newbie and you’re only working on basic designs to sell and minimum wage in your area is $7/hr, you could keep it there, but if you’re at a higher skill level you could bump it up a bit higher than minimum wage. But there really is no hard and fast rule with your hourly rate. I wouldn’t go below minimum wage because you don’t want to undersell yourself or undervalue your time, but different formulas work for different people. Some people do cost of materials doubled or tripled, some price based on project complexity instead of time, so it’s really up to your discretion and where you feel comfortable setting your prices. The best thing to remember is that there will always be people who want to undervalue your work, but with those people also come the people who know that quality handmade work is worth the higher price. Good luck with your business! You’ve got this! 🥰

A good starting point would be looking at the minimum wage of your area, and adjusting based off of that. Ideally, we would want to increase this overtime through various means, but I would not suggest starting below minimum wage, unless you view the trade in hourly rate with increase rate of sales as worthwhile, as this (in financial terms) means you would profit more at a generic entry job.

You're very right that some places make it much more difficult to sell items!

Sounds Like Germany 😂

Depends how much you think it should be (don't go crazy tho)

Usually 10-15 dollars (Canadian)

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Yes, I always recommend people start by looking at the minimum wage of their area, and using that as a starting point, and adjusting from there!

I think $5-$15 is fair! Depends on a lot of factors

Thanks

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Omg same😂and then i just end up with whatever price that i see fit

I'm so glad it's helpful! :) In truth, it's just a starting point to cover the two biggest costs: time and materials. There are many more costs that'll come naturally that you'll want to start considering as you build your business!

Thank you so much for sharing how you usually price! Everyone's system is totally different, and I totally agree and understand that the speed at which we are able to crochet definitely impacts price that is dependent on time!

I'm so sorry he reacted that way! I totally stand by your pricing! We deserve to be fairly compensated for the time, effort, and skill that goes into our creations!! The trick is finding the customers who recognize and agree with that value!

Fkn ruuuude of him bruh. 😭

Would you pay 35 dollars for a hat or buy ut at target for 5 bucks? That's why I don't sell my crochet item I give as gifts or keep myself

Not everybody got money to spare like that. I understand you worked hard and you deserved to be payed well, but he also has to think wisely about his finances.

I totally agree that including more information about what goes into an item is a great idea! Personally, I'm not sure I would do an itemized bill (although I'm not saying that's a bad idea!) more so I can keep the focus of the item on the customer and what they get from it, rather than what I put into it!

I typically aim for an hourly rate of between $18 and $21! Although I will tweak on a product-by-product basis, based on what the final cost is calculated to be!

Mine changes depending on the complexity of the project! Always at least minimum wage!

I totally understand that clothes have a totally different pricing requirement! I would love to hear how you price! :)

That's a very similar system! And it sounds like it covers all the essential bases :) Thank you for sharing!

This system totally has much room for variation, and it's super important for people to develop their own system that they are comfortable with! This equation is just a good starting point that allows for the basics to be covered, like time and materials!

At least minimum wage! But it’s up to you!

You can decide your own hourly rate! Whatever is worth it for you- I always suggest at least minimum wage!

That's so exciting that you're wanting to do some shows!! :) I think this is a great pricing starting point, as it covers the two biggest costs: time and materials. But, you should also keep in mind there are other smaller costs that go into the overall picture, such as gas, fees, and so on! I would think about adding a small markup to account for those, too :)

❤️ Thank you!

I think everyone has a go-t0 formula for coming up with prices they are comfortable with! Thanks for sharing yours!

I kinda like that but I would do it maybe double and a quarter because it does take a while especially with skinny yarn

Hi there! We can help with bulk crochet apparel manufacturing and can show you a dozen design what we have already performed and delivered around the globe! 🙏🤗

What's most important is you are offering prices that you feel is fair to you and to your customer!

@@camryns_cute_creations my mom came up with the prices i honestly feel it's too much, at least for my creations since i'm not a Professional, plus they all look a little different.😥

@@ghostly5146everything will always look different and not the same I made 4 Minecraft bee pillows and each one looks different in ways. Crocheting more than one thing won’t always look the same as the other one. But that is ok 🙂

@@emilyrichardson610 thanks.☺️

Absolutely! You're very right, but this simple equation is just meant to be a starting point to cover the two largest costs: materials and time. There are so many other, often less overt, costs to consider, too! That's why I use my Pricing Calculator, which takes into consideration all possible costs :)

I'm glad you've found a system that works for you and feels fair for you! :) Thank you for sharing!

Oh my gosh 😂😂 I totally understand and agree that it doesn't always work super well for things that take more time! Personally, I do think your dolls are worth that if they have so much work behind them!! ❤️❤️

That's me, I have given up on trying to sell stuff...now my family and friends will purchase the yarn...

They are absolutely special gifts! It's hard not to become attached to items as we take time to create every stitch! ❤️

I just started, I am terrible I learned from a you tube video made one. If my grands a scarf he loves it so much. It really rough but it's something I made for him. Now all the others want one! We have 8 grankids and the yarn is so expensive! I would if I were any good at it I would just make things for all of my grandkids for Christmas. While they are young enough to appreciate it.

I even have a hard time giving them as gifts lol I made a blue pikmin specifically for a friend's birthday, and had to force myself to part with it because there wasn't time to make another. I couldn't care less about pikmin, I just spent so much time on him that he became my little buddy. I've got to stop becoming so emotionally attached to inanimate things 😂

I always recommend people start their calculations at minimum wage and then adjust upwards from there! As far as tracking hours, I usually measure my time from start to finish on a product three times and then get the average of those times! Then, I have a universal time for one product which I use moving forward! That also means if I ever get any faster at that product, my hourly rate relative to the final price goes up!

I always recommend that people stick to items in the 2-hours of actually making range! I totally agree that something like a blanket that takes 20 total hours of physically making can get up there! But, I always think people should be compensated fairly for their time!

Where exactly do you live that it is that high? In Virginia it is $12.

@@jehneanyshari1518 Australia

It’s definitely depends! Find a system that works for you!

​@@jehneanyshari1518In California it's 15.5 (but most jobs start hiring at 16-18ish, as in fast food type jobs-) but materials n stuff are also expensive

@@legogirlie1191damn I’m in Australia and minimum wage where I am (tas) it’s like $10-13

That is so awesome to hear!! :) very excited for you!

That's ok for a base, but you should add your material costs because yarn can be so expensive these days!

That's so exciting that you're offering crochet classes! I think that is a vastly untapped market, and I really think you could find success there!

That's a great system to use! I'm glad it's been successful for you!

They're very different! I struggle very much with knitting compared to crochet!

@@camryns_cute_creations oh I can do both quite easily. It is the making patterns that I find hard and I'm a little too lazy to do bobbin lace, which now that I am mentioning would be the better border making method.

My best guess would be around 2-4 hours, depending on the yarn!

I believe the same core principles should apply to most handmade products! If you'd like to talk specifics about the nuances of pricing your spa products, I'd love to talk at length over email!

@@camryns_cute_creations many thanks.I will let you know🤗

That’s a great point! The reality is that there’s so much that goes into pricing, but this simple system acts as a great starting point to ensure beginners are being fairly compensated for their time! Good luck to you as well!

Wow! I'd love to hear about their pricing strategy to get it so low!

It will be someone who does it as a hobby and prices just to get a bit of money back. There are loads if oapercrafters who do that.

How long do they take you to make? And how much is the yarn worth that u make each of them with?

@@Touche_Crochet I've calculated it and each scrunchie is about 65¢ in materials, and about 30-40 minutes to make them depending on if I'm high or not since it's the only way my brain can stay focused when I'm crocheting.

@@DigiartPachi sorry the being high part threw me off a bit lmao but what is your hourly rate? If it's $10/hour that would be $5.65 so your dad is right. Also $5 for a crochet scrunchie is a pretty normal price, not too expensive at all

I agree, I don’t think $5 is too much to ask for a homemade scrunchie. There are more and more people making goods at home and selling them, and most of them understand that you deserve to be paid for the time & effort you put into making your goods and not simply get refunded for materials. You could also do a 2 for $8, etc. Good luck!!!💜💜💜

@@Touche_Crochet really? It just feels like too much, but I'm constantly told I undersell my art since I do digital commissions sometimes for like $15 when it takes me like 4-5 hours 🥲 but when I price any higher than that, I don't get any commissions at all

I try to search many places to explore all the different kinds of yarn available! But, I typically buy the majority of my yarn from Joann, and then will sometimes go to Hobby Lobby or Michaels to see what kinds of sales they have!

I totally understand, and it’s so true that some items are absolutely not ideal for selling because of the significant time that goes into it! And that’s not to say it isn’t valuable, but that many aren’t willing to pay that high price! (Which sucks, because it’s all so high quality!) I always recommend focusing on smaller, quicker items (ideally between 1-2 hours), while keeping some larger, higher priced items items as more of eye-catchers (although they will sell, too!) Some strategies to get average time down is batching, where you do the first part of multiple items all together! I love that you make so many gifts! :)

Rich people are willing to pay but how to market to them?