How to Program a VW keyfob

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In this video I show how to program a replacement keyfob on a 2002 Jetta. I got a new keyfob from the dealer to replace the original damaged one. This programming requires 2 keys because you need one in the ignition and one in the door at the same time.
Procedure is this.
1. With new keyfob installed onto the old switch-blade/transponder portion of the key insert the key into the ignition with the buttons facing down.
2. Turn the key to the on position but don't start the car. Just until the lights light up on the dash.
3. Get out of the vehicle and shut door. Then insert the second key into the door and turn to lock and then turn to unlock.
4. get back into vehicle and press the unlock button on the keyfob for 1 second, then let up for 1 second, press for 1 second. You should hear the horn honk. If the horn didn't honk then let off and press again. Did the horn honk? if not let off and press again. Did the horn honk? If not then then see below. If the horn did honk move to next step.
5. Shut door and test out the keyfob. if the horn honked then the buttons should work.
If the horn doesn't honk then something is wrong.
1.Does the horn and the alarm work? maybe you just didn't hear it
2.The max number of programmed keyfobs is 4. Even if they are lost the computer still hold the programming. It may need to go to the dealer to wipe the programming and start out new.
3. The door lock switch didn't read that the key was moved to lock and unlock
4. The new keyfob isn't the right one for the vehicle
Also I'm sure someone will comment at some point that you can just stick your arm out the window and turn the key but there is a reason I don't recommend this. On a VW the windows can be rolled up and down with the key in the door and I don't want people to roll up their arm or head in the window. Just get out of the vehicle or have a friend stand next to the car and operate the key.

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@kinglouis7134 3 жыл бұрын

Your KZfaq instructional video was very helpful. I successfully programmed my new 2000 VW Beetle key using my Valet Key! To those trying it for the first time, the unprogrammed key goes into the ignition and the valet key or whatever you’re using as a original goes into the outside door lock. I figured out I had to pull the new key out of the steering column and then push the unlock button slowly. Then the new fob worked flawlessly. Thanks again for helping us out and showing us the way.

@jonnymin.speranza6854 Жыл бұрын

I ve new beetle too. Works with new empty key?

@bassmunk 5 жыл бұрын

Nice! Just tried it with aftermarket fobs I got off eBay and it worked perfectly! Thank u! I recommend though pressing all 3 buttons during the 15sec programmable time frame so that they all work. My 1st try only the one button I pressed worked.

@ThePracticalMechanic 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip. I wonder if this is common with the aftermarket Fobs.

@armandvigors2025 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this tip. I got quoted £150 for new key from locksmith. Bought a 2nd hand fob off ebay for £12 , swapped my key on to it, tried out this method and it worked first time. Genius.

@l.m.kogler728 3 жыл бұрын

I just did this with the spare key fob from my 2003 Jetta -- car was totaled in 2004, and yeah, I've held on to a practically new VW key fob I've never used for all these years. Used to replace the key fob for my 2005 Jetta. (That key fob stopped working; not a battery issue.) The procedure as shown here worked the very first time! Thanks!

@ThePracticalMechanic 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for letting us know. Free fob is awesome!!!

@arturodavis5135 3 жыл бұрын

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@urielmilo3681 3 жыл бұрын

@Arturo Davis Instablaster ;)

@arturodavis5135 3 жыл бұрын

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@arturodavis5135 3 жыл бұрын

@Uriel Milo It worked and I actually got access to my account again. Im so happy! Thank you so much you saved my ass !

@heikogehrig 3 жыл бұрын

This worked perfectly on my older model Tiguan. Thank you!! Later, when my other key fob stopped working (while at the mall, so no second key fob), I did the exact same procedure, except I opened the driver's side door, locked the central lock (on the door), unlocked, closed the door, then pressed the unlock button on the key fob twice (no horn, but after removing key, the key fob works). So for my Tiguan, the procedure works, except you don't need the second key, unstead, use the central lock on the door.

@alyssatrujillo1355 2 жыл бұрын

Locksmith tried telling me the key fob I purchased from somewhere else didn’t work and I had to purchase from him…turns out Jetta’s need another key in the car door. Saved myself $300 and did it myself. Thank you!

@gabriellance9248 3 жыл бұрын

I tried adding a remote on my 2004 Passat with my VAG-COM tool and it wouldn't let me add the second (key) remote. Then tried your method and it worked on the first try. Thanks a lot!

@anthonygarcia7753 9 ай бұрын

Crazy I’ve had my Passat for over a year and I never cared to search for a video how to program the key cause I always thought I would have to go to the dealer. One year later and outta curiosity I did and this worked !

@RussellJLed 5 ай бұрын

Worked! I’ll add to this by saying I took the key lock out and used a screwdriver instead of a key in the lock/unlock step as I haven’t yet had my new key cut. But the new fob from eBay is now programmed! Saved myself mucho dinero! Thank you sir!!!

@WestcoastEmamali 10 ай бұрын

Still works great! I bought a new fob from Amazon and programmed it in 5 sec. with this method.

@ThePracticalMechanic 10 ай бұрын

Great to hear!

@tajiroller Жыл бұрын

Best way to program a new key fob without 2nd key is to pull apart the fobs and pop out the circuit boards and put the old circuit board in the place of the new. Worked for me.

@johnbrennan7175 Жыл бұрын

Its staggering how many people are driving around without a spare key. Madness

@aliviisas Жыл бұрын

After three times this worked perfectly for my VW Bora '00. 👌 Saved 50 €, thank you!

@MrJwolf989 10 ай бұрын

Worked perfectly for 1999 Passat (B5). If driver latch actuator does not recognize key, you can program off of the passenger door as well. Thank you!!

@katolau 2 жыл бұрын

Hey aloha, really appreciate you posting this 3 years ago, fixed the problem, mahalo!

@bryandulude7215 Жыл бұрын

12 seconds and it’s like new I love it still works

@SteveH1985 4 жыл бұрын

Top video took me literally 1 minute to reprogram my fob using this video. Thanks 😉

@jasonsmybro 3 ай бұрын

if you dont have a second key, remove the driver's door lock cylinder and use a screwdriver to lock/unlock the door. it is very simple to remove the lock cylinder. you just have to remove the small cap in the door by the lock cylinder and use a t15 torx bit to unscrew the bolt holding the lock cylinder in (dont remove the screw completely. only loosen it enough to remove the lock cylinder or youll be fishing the screw out of the inner door). follow the same procedure in the video but use the screwdriver as the second key.

@Ndlakude 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much. I didn't sleep well yesterday thinking about my dead car keys. U saved my last cent with your video. You are the man

@ladonnabrookshire6284 4 жыл бұрын

KZfaq for the win always coming through in a clutch.

@andyskyrme2714 4 жыл бұрын

Fabulous! Thank you so much. It saved me loads of money trying to get my 2007 VW Polo key reprogrammed. Awesome. 😎👍

@sergioforjaes5730 Жыл бұрын

I try with my vw passat (12/2000) and it worked like a charm at 4th attemp... Thx a lot!!! Great video!!!!

@ThePracticalMechanic Жыл бұрын

Nice work!

@N0TDITTO 4 жыл бұрын

You just saved me the $75 the dealer wanted to charge!

@ThePracticalMechanic 4 жыл бұрын

Sweet. Holidays are coming and every dollar counts.

@rudebeserker309 3 жыл бұрын

So what if you don’t hv a second key and just have one key fob but u ordered a key fob replacement case from Amazon would this still work

@turtlesonfame9524 Жыл бұрын

This tutorial worked perfectly for 2002 passage, thanks

@ThePracticalMechanic Жыл бұрын

Glad it helped

@kristinae.7084 Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!! I had to repeat the steps 4 times, and my horn never honked, but now my key fob works! You made my day :)

@jamil420 Жыл бұрын

Did u buy a blank chip from somewhere or reprogrammed your old key?

@Wyndstrom 24 күн бұрын

This was very helpful! Thank you for this vid! Honestly, I"m no fan of these keyfobs and prefer a standard (read: old school) key.

@Mybrotherskeeper 5 жыл бұрын

On some vehicles you need to leave the key in the ignition for several seconds until you hear the horn blow.

@SiM0NEN 3 жыл бұрын

Works on vw t4 transporter. Did not hear horn but still works at very first try.

@PsyMan2022 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, new T5s spare key now functional again. Nice and clear (it was my alarm beep not the horn in the UK though)

@tommytee1751 Жыл бұрын

Sweet!! This worked on my VW golf mk4.. Nice one man..

@ThePracticalMechanic Жыл бұрын

Good to hear!

@miker7777 Жыл бұрын

holy shit lifechanging. I thought i would forever have to manually unlock the doors for the rest of my passat's life. each few seconds of time saved are due to you.

@ayarnold9523 Жыл бұрын

Many thanks worked on my 2006 VW T5 with the remote that had stopped working after a battery change.

@MegaRusty64 Жыл бұрын

ive got a 2006 Golf GTI right hand drive (Uk model) ive got one working key fob but the othe key fob was dead, changed the battery but still dead so i got a new key fob circuit board from ebay and swapped it out.... but now i had to syncronise it to the car. this is how i did it. Manual Programming 1) Unlock the door to your car using the key blade 2) Insert your good/working key into the ignition and turn it to the "on" position, but do not start the car. 3) Roll down your driver's side window 4) Step out of the car and insert your new key into the driver's door lock, now turn the key to the lock position and hold it in that position for 10 seconds. 5) Now press the lock button on the FOB with key still in the door lock 6) Now press the unlock button on the FOB with the key still in the door lock 7) remove key fob from the door, do your widow up and remove keys from the ignition.... now try to lock and unlock with the new key fob. worked for me and i tried loads of different ways, hope this helps somebody !!

@leifbolton643 2 жыл бұрын

since the max number of programmed keys is 4, and it may take 4 times to re program a key. I suggest that the amount of times it takes is related to the number of times it has already been done.

@Docdug 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for posting this! It saved me $62 the VW dealer would have charged!!!

@rolandmazuch4493 Жыл бұрын

This method worked for me i tried a lot but just this one was with function. Thanks a lot

@nlibby5549 Жыл бұрын

This worked on a non push start Passat. Thanks, man.

@RalphMartinez-mz7ev 2 ай бұрын

2004 VW Passat GLX Sedan V6 these steps worked for me to add a second key, but how can I program out other lost key fobs or how can I add my 3rd? thank you in advance

@BobSmith-mc7uq Жыл бұрын

Tried many different way. Yours worked first time. Subbed.

@chronocross7174 9 ай бұрын

Thank you! This worked after watching alot of videos this one was straight forward!

@mtn_sivliu Жыл бұрын

On my polo 1.9 2001 it was a veri small click inside the dashboard that told me it was reprogrammed. I got it in the 3-rd try. Thanks :)

@ThePracticalMechanic Жыл бұрын

🍻

@MarisRozenbergs 2 жыл бұрын

it worked, has to use screw driver as a key to unlock, lock doors, took total 2hours +/- but did it

@dalemyers1847 Жыл бұрын

Here is one side note I'd like to add. My 01 Beetle does not know when the drivers door has been opened. To get this process to work I needed to do a the steps only I opened and closed the passengers door. I accessed the drivers door manual lock by reaching out the open drivers door window.

@giovanni562 7 ай бұрын

Worked on my 2009 VW Jetta. It had lost the ability to unlock the doors, it would only lock. 👍🏼

@CraigSNZ 3 жыл бұрын

Most of the people with problems are putting a key in the ignition that has an immobilizer chip that is not programmed to the car. There are three separate systems here. The mechanical blade and lock, the tiny glass immobiliser chip inside the key near the blade and aerial around the keyhole and the remote opening fob with its buttons and battery. Many locksmiths can clone the glass chip if they have the car and a working key and the right equipment. Second hand keys witl need the old glass chip removed and a new cloned chip inserted. Swapping the glass chip from one key to the next is very risky as the chip is fragile and glued in place. Best to clone the chip first in case it breaks when you attemot to get it out.

@rubenmoscol4774 3 жыл бұрын

mine the glass broke trying to taking it out.. what can I do??

@westtexastll1978 2 жыл бұрын

Glass??? That must be a European car thing. the Chevy I had only had a small, metal "chip" set in plastic in the ignition key's shank near the head.

@westtexastll1978 2 жыл бұрын

@@rubenmoscol4774 that might end up being be a Dealership Repair... 🤷🏻‍♂️?

@brandoncarson7456 2 жыл бұрын

you sir are a very helpful man may you have a long and beautiful life ❤️ thank you for helping me

@ikki831 5 жыл бұрын

I heard the horn on first try with key fob I got on amazon. The key fob locks and unlocks doors and car starts and drives fine with the newly programed key fob but trunk wont unlock with it. I can live with that. thanks for the info.

@ThePracticalMechanic 5 жыл бұрын

No problem. That’s weird that the trunk doesn’t operate. At least the door locks work. Thanks for watching.

@razmin3 5 жыл бұрын

I have the same problem with the key fobs I purchased from Amazon. The lock and unlock work, but they won't pop the trunk. I have no idea why because the original fob will open the trunk.

@European_carclub 3 жыл бұрын

@@razmin3 same with my key from eBay. Any reason why?

@ImTheBeast93 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks worked on my mk4 golf first try best video for this

@rodmccrimmon2601 6 ай бұрын

This worked perfectly - first time - awesome!

@jaycechan8122 3 ай бұрын

Thanks so much it work to my Audi A4. key , saving my 93 pound to Audi shop recording

@chinita2463 2 жыл бұрын

What if you don't have an extra key? And only the key fob?

@thezeek2745 2 жыл бұрын

Off to the dealer with the VIN

@ryanedwards1380 Жыл бұрын

Buy an HAA blank and get it cut for 5 quid so it works in the door lock..

@gb7886 Жыл бұрын

There's another video explaining how to do with one key. You have to pop out door lock and use a screw driver to act like a key... I also done it to reset the alarm system on other cars.. neat trick.

@constantlylurkingraffitich2883 11 ай бұрын

@gb7886 please send link for the other video

@williamatchison6261 7 ай бұрын

@@ryanedwards1380 what if im in the US and we dont have any quids?

@Weirdbloke1 Жыл бұрын

This worked on a Skoda Roomster. Thank you.

@vlamizo0072 Жыл бұрын

Saved me alot of money. Thanks for the informing 👍

@ThePracticalMechanic Жыл бұрын

Glad to help

@houmvong 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you sir. I got my Beetle reprograms very easy.

@user-rx4dc5ok9b Жыл бұрын

Works nicely for the door unlock. But how do we program the immobilizer chip??

@considerlily 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!! Worked like a charm.

@ThePracticalMechanic 5 жыл бұрын

Your welcome.

@humbertohernandez11 4 жыл бұрын

Fast and easy thank you sir!

@user-nd5co8lq4t 5 ай бұрын

what if i have only one key? mk6, keyfob stop working. few month ago was erratically/ randomly locking/unlocking doors, not all at once and never the same doors. now nothing, red led still lighting on keyfob. so battery not ded.

@ThePracticalMechanic 5 ай бұрын

You can remove the door lock cylinder and use a screwdriver to turn the door lock switch and then use the one key you have in the ignition.

@user-bl9jq4jj1v Жыл бұрын

My fob also has a key!! Its new, key not cut yet. Still want to program the fob ONLY. Incase I lock my keys in the car

@LookUpTheKalergiPlanWhitePeeps Жыл бұрын

B5.5 Passat, have you ever noticed it's not the horn honking? It's something near the C pillar in my car when I use the remote to lock it or if the alarm goes off.

@1975Kombi1 5 жыл бұрын

How about doing a used key fob from a scrapyard? Yes the immo chip has been switch over along with the key blade. Can the used scrapyard key fob be reprogrammed? Seems the original circuit board might have been compromised. It just continually blinks non stop.

@ThePracticalMechanic 5 жыл бұрын

The used remote if functional should work. I have programmed several used remotes in the past.

@1975Kombi1 5 жыл бұрын

Bob's your uncle!

@jorgebustos8339 5 жыл бұрын

Great video man. Thank you!

@blacks4malimindset730 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video,does it work on a polo vivo 2015 if not what should I use cause I got Ancel fx4000 diagnostic scanner

@medsoudani8247 3 жыл бұрын

Hello, Thank you for the video. Could you tell me how to program a new remote control for a VW Passat B8 (2018), without key, knowing that the car is keyless Go (not keyless entry). Thanks

@kingbolen_official 4 жыл бұрын

Nice video,one minute program a VW keyfob

@abylambert9731 Жыл бұрын

this works perfectly! thanks man

@ThePracticalMechanic Жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

@retrolabvw 5 ай бұрын

Dumb question but will this affect remote starting? I had the fob programmed for remote starting by pressing the lock button 3 times

@ianmoore525 7 ай бұрын

So I can have 2 different key fobs old and new both programmed to open doors and start?

@lauris4887 Жыл бұрын

Is there a way to reprogram my second key to be recognised by immobilizer? Key was working fine but i tried to take radio out by bit of force and the key stopped working. I have other key that only locks car manualy. And the button on starting key doesnt work.

@Hedwigthechicky Ай бұрын

Does the new key fob with key start the car

@gavino1792 3 жыл бұрын

If you don't have two keys, take your doors lock cylinder out and use a screwdriver.

@wayneODC 3 жыл бұрын

Hello, I have a 2007 Golf, and having problems with this working. Should I try anything else?

@smalldoseofmeful 2 жыл бұрын

What if you are trying to program an entire new key. Got the new one cut but the immobilizer pill isnt set to the car

@RnWSolutions 4 жыл бұрын

Is there a way if you only have 1 key?

@shifatsalam3153 3 жыл бұрын

Sir I have only two remote control key. One does work and the other doesn't ( if i click the button the car doesn't response anymore). So have I input the working key in the door and input the not working key in the car? It's a Volkswagen polo of 2003. Please help me

@tomgreen749 2 жыл бұрын

i lost my key on a ride at the fair , i have the spare key but it wont start my car it turns the imobilizer on will this work to code the spare key and to turn the imobilizer off ?

@imjasonennis3624 5 ай бұрын

This doesn’t work on my 07 Octavia, do I need a new key?

@johnrizzotti4785 4 жыл бұрын

what if i only have the ONE key

@bankaalbert5022 Жыл бұрын

Can you start the car if you have problem like this?

@ianlivermore2981 Жыл бұрын

Thank you ever so much worked great 👍

@ThePracticalMechanic Жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

@dashtyATG 3 жыл бұрын

Hy thanks for your time. How about a used remot please can it be reprogrammed?

@GolDCaster22 2 жыл бұрын

my key/fob got into the washing machine, its a jetta 2007... do i have to buy a new one? or can i try to do this with the wet one?

@ThePracticalMechanic 2 жыл бұрын

You should try and dry it out first. Place the remote in a ziplock bag with some rice or a desiccate bag(those little packs that say “do not eat”). Sometimes it takes a day or so to remove all the moisture. Once dried out I would try the remote and see what happens. Sometimes you can sync the remote back up to the vehicle by holding the lock and unlock buttons for 10 seconds or so. Make sure the little red light illuminates on the remote when a button is pressed because it it doesn’t then the battery is dead or remote has failed. Some remotes from 1998-2002ish didn’t have the red light.

@GolDCaster22 2 жыл бұрын

@@ThePracticalMechanic i opened it up dried it up with tissue and used some alcohol wipes afterwards, the light was blinking but not working so i changed the battery.. but still did not work.

@seanaball24 2 жыл бұрын

What if I buy a new fob, cut key top part and attach it to the old fob with buttons. Would that work the same? Same buttons on old fob, new cut key?

@pedroariza7892 2 жыл бұрын

You can easily swap out look for videos

@sevak2108 5 жыл бұрын

When I do this, the car recognizes only the last programmed remote and "forgets" the other one. How do I program 2 remotes so they both work? Thanks

@ThePracticalMechanic 5 жыл бұрын

If I remember right the car can remember 4keyfobs. After you perform the the key turning sequence and program a fob don’t turn off the key but instead press a button on the second fob three or four times. This will program the other remote into a different slot. If that doesn’t work I think there is a procedure to clear all previously learned fobs from the car so you can start with a clean slate.

@sevak2108 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the response

@lialialia1 4 жыл бұрын

@@sevak2108 Did it worked.? I'm interested, cuz my 2 key fobs stopped working and i wanna try pair them both. :)

@AshokKumar-eh1gf 3 жыл бұрын

Does it work for polo base model (trendline)

@themissingpiecepuzzlecompa9670 4 жыл бұрын

I have a 2006 VW Beetle. The car battery died over the winter and I just got around to changing it out. Now, the keys won't work! My lights show that the car thinks it is being stolen, I've tried this method and it isn't working. PLEASE HELP!

@ThePracticalMechanic 4 жыл бұрын

I have had a few beetles in the past so this and one method that has worked was to to turn the key on and let the car sit for 30+ minutes. You should set the parking brake to disable the headlights and also leave the charger running. You may have to do this for both keys. It still may not work though. Another option is to unhook the battery for 15 minutes or so and reconnect. It may reset the module and work properly again. Good luck.

@jo5186 4 жыл бұрын

While the alarm is activated, insert the key into the rear hatch and turn left. This will turn off the alarm.

@patrickcagle5741 4 жыл бұрын

I have a 2007 Jetta with no fob, just a chipped key. If I buy a new fob and a basic door only key, will this process work to program the fob?

@ThePracticalMechanic 4 жыл бұрын

As long as the vehicle is coded for a key fob. Just make sure you don’t use the new key in the ignition. Use the key in the door and your good key in the ignition otherwise the antitheft may become active and you won’t be able to start the car.

@Jordanguyps3 4 жыл бұрын

Did it work?

@danieljsantacruz 6 ай бұрын

Did it work?

@danieljsantacruz 6 ай бұрын

Did it work?

@henryjp3741 3 жыл бұрын

worked for my 2006 Golf TDI, but the Trunk latch release will not work...any ideas why?

@t.a.4702 3 жыл бұрын

worked like a charm

@Gonzo021778 3 жыл бұрын

What about the trunk release? I programmed the doors but the trunk release won't work?

@jimbrannlund4677 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this!

@ThePracticalMechanic 3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

@terrykuzevski2026 3 жыл бұрын

Hi, I have a 2016 vw amarok. Will this video work to program my new fob key to my car?

@user-zv7jq7hq1p 6 ай бұрын

thx for this vid -- worked perfectly!

@ThePracticalMechanic 6 ай бұрын

You're welcome!

@gunsnsails 2 жыл бұрын

Does the new key fob have to come from the dealership?

@williebeukes4482 3 жыл бұрын

i tried this with my Jetta 5 but it's not working. Is there another way of doing this on n Jetta 5?

@ProPhoto-rc7yn Жыл бұрын

Great work!!!

@theyrealltaken3 3 жыл бұрын

Worked perfectly! Thank you very much! Liked and subbed

@carlosdelaroche8103 4 ай бұрын

Thankkkk youuuu

@ThePracticalMechanic 4 ай бұрын

Your welcome!!

@AntonGumiran 4 жыл бұрын

how do you do this for VW's with start stop button

@kain7134 3 жыл бұрын

Most start stop buttons pop off, they cover a hole in the dash you can put a key in

@rosshuntington6769 Жыл бұрын

What if you have no key fob just one key and dam alarm still going off

@fastenfasten4803 Жыл бұрын

My battery on Volkswagen polo died and I buy new one but now light on remote key don't work, and even i cant unlock or lock car remote is there any solution?

@ThePracticalMechanic Жыл бұрын

if the light still doesn't light up the battery is bad, incorrect, upside down or the fob is bad.

@blueboy7777777777777 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video! Worked the first time on the new remote but can't get the factory one to work.

@ThePracticalMechanic 5 жыл бұрын

blueboy7777777777777 did the factory remote work before and does the little red light on the remote block when a button is pressed? you may have to try programming both at the same time. After you press the button on one remote and get the confirmation try pressing the buttons on the second remote before cycling the key off.

@blueboy7777777777777 5 жыл бұрын

@@ThePracticalMechanic Factory one did work until the battery died in it and the car battery died. And yes the red LED light flashes with a new battery in both. Tried to do both at the same time but no good. The new one doesn't make the horn beep but it still works. I have a VCDS I'll just do it that way. Thanks!