Yeah man, it drove me nuts for a while trying to figure it out!

🤘🤘🤘 they discontinued this one, but I still use it

Thanks! And no, I haven’t heard of him haha. I’ve heard people say I sound like Danny Carey or Tom Morello before though

Yeah it took me a while to figure it out too 👍glad to help

Thanks!

Glad to help 👍

Oh nice! Thanks for the comment!

Yeah you can use the Spdsx as a trigger to “start” the backing track and light show in your DAW 👍

It’s so I can see if it gets out of order AND so it’s easy for me to remember while programming

That’s a good question, and I know what you are talking about. I don’t know of how to do that. Probably a separate command that triggers the proper midi command to go to blackout should work best. If you find a better way, let me know!

I don’t use studio one so that I’m not sure :/

I don’t use FL but I would imagine Dmxis works with it (if you can find it… it’s been discontinued)

Glad you liked the video. And I actually do this in Ableton now and it was relatively similar to this. What is the problem in Ableton?

It’s very easy in DMXIS. You have the “fade to next” knob right next to the preset menu. Set that to how many seconds you want it to take to go to the next preset. It only works per preset which is nice. So you can say preset 1 you want to be set to “fade to next” for 2 seconds and it will take 2 seconds to fade to the the next preset no matter what it is.

Yeah, I just recently found out they discontinued it. Super bummed, it was a great device! I still have it, but that means I'll have to upgrade at some point, because I'm sure the plug in won't work with some sort of upcoming OS update. Bummer. I honestly don't know. If you find another one, let me know. I'll have to do an updated video on the new one.

Find anything that works yet?

You’ll have to reassign the lights to the correct channels. So usually you need to bring your own gear. But are supposed to be ways to do what you want, I just am not aware of how to do it.

Care to elaborate? I’ve been trying to figure out a way to play lighting programming and audio synced with video. I know there has to be a way

Most of the time DMX controllers are just standalone devices for controlling lights. You often need a specific device to control lighting from a computer

There are a lot of products by enntec that will work since the Dmxis was discontinued. They like to push their EMU software as the new controller now, which I believe does work with the usb pro 👍

Dmxis requires the Dmxis software for it to work. No for Dmxis but I know there are apps out there for controlling light. I’m not a windows guy, so I don’t know about that. 👍

I never had a problem with using Logic live. I've watched videos of touring musicians do rig-rundowns and they use ProTools and Cubase and Logic live. Like I said, I never had a problem with it. But MainStage should work too depending on what you needed to use it for. I dabbled in MainStage for a little bit and switched over to Logic. I honestly cannot remember what made me switch over. But either one would work fine for you. MainStage is meant for live use, so it might work better. It really depends on you being comfortable with your DAW. I use Ableton now, and I definitely know more about Logic than Ableton, so if something goes wrong it's going to take me longer to figure out where to fix the problem in Ableton than it will with Logic.

@@ScottUhlMusic : Thanks for the advice my friend !! Keep up the good work , your channel is awesome !! Cheers bro :-)

The issue with Mainstage is that you can't run midi tracks with it, which is very annoying - I think it'd be maybe the best live-show software if it did, especially considering the price, but there we go. It's why I'm switching to using Logic (with the help of these great videos from Scott).

@@sentientfootwear Agree. Seems to me that adding a simple MIDI plug-in to run MIDI in Mainstage would solve a lot of issues with MainStage. MainStage is great for audio, software instruments and sending MIDI data OUT, but you can program a MIDI track inside MainStage, at least I haven't found a way to do it.

I don’t use reaper, but are you sending on midi channel 15 for bank and channel 16 for preset? If you are able to load the plug in, it should work if you have it configured correctly

@@ScottUhlMusic I have figured it out. It's starting my notes on C#-1 1. It's the next step down from C0

@@monteclampett6841 Ah, that makes sense. Glad you figured it out. Midi can be a headache sometimes haha

I’m not sure I’m following…

I do show you how to run it from a laptop. It's video 4B. iPad was 4A. If you just want to run your lights you just need to send a click to yourself and/or backing tracks. That way you match up exactly with the lights

@@ScottUhlMusic Oh okay. I just saw that. my bad. Do I need an interface if I'm using a USB di Box? And couldn't I run some headphones from my MacBook for the Clicks?

@@xXMJHarvey89Xx I've actually never used (or heard of) a USB DI Box, so I had to look it up. Pretty cool! I'm assuming that would work, and yes, you could just send the headphones from the MacBook to you. My advice is always be able to turn up or down the click volume easily. Every show will be different, and you have to be able to turn up or down. You can get a headphone mixer for $30. The Behringer P2 runs off of AAA batteries, so I usually recommend that one for a single signal headphone amplifier

I haven’t :/

Yeah it is discontinued. I’m looking for a replacement

I definitely don't know about how to build lights and stuff like that. It's not my strong suite at all (but I would love to learn or hire someone). You would just have to find a way to get a DMX signal into the lights to control them. However, companies make a DMX controlled power strip (often with a dimmer too) so you can turn on and off lights that way. I programmed a friend's light show for their CD release with one. I believe it was the "Chauvet DJ DMX-4 4-Ch DMX Dimmer/Switch Pack"

@@ScottUhlMusic Awesome! I will look into using one. Thank you very much!

I haven't tried the wireless set up yet. But after our first show fiddling with all the cables I'm highly considering just switching to wireless. I've built some light boxes for my band with clamp lights from Home Depot and a little Woodworkers magic. You can buy a 4 or 8Ch Dimmer box that has DMX controlled capabilities. So I'm more than confident it should work Only issue you might come across for what you want is the LED's. Most Dimmer boxes I've seen aren't compatibles with LED's so you're stuck with the typical incandescent or fluorescent light bulb. You can always buy some ADJ or Chauvet LED PARS which most come with a wide range of colors (RGBAWUV) and most of them are already dmx compatible and some already have the wireless built in....but you're gonna have to dish out a bit more money. So it's really dependent on how much you're willing to budget for and what you want to accomplish. Check out my Instagram @harvey_hustle I have a bunch of pictures and videos of the light setup I built. and it has all been programmed through Midi to sync perfectly with our Live Shows!

This video might help you: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/itKBg6qIks2sd3k.html

Nope! It works fine and that’s how I do it 👍

@@ScottUhlMusic That's awesome! Have you messed with Emu at all? I've been looking into this today and seems like that's the replacement for DMXIS. Not a fan of having to do subscription vs a one time cost though haha.

That’s exactly why I haven’t!! I hate subscription models for stuff like that!

DMX can be daisy chained 👍 Most lights have a DMX in and out. And I need to find a new alternative

@@ScottUhlMusic Have you tried Show Buddy Active or Setlist?

I honestly don’t know if it does. I always have a “soundcheck” scene where every single light I have turns blue. If a light has any other colors or isn’t working I know it isn’t configured properly. But it does usually start at 0 for me as well. That’s just how I check to see if they are working

Yeah I no longer run all VST's at once and hit mute. It was too DSP consuming and I'm amazed that it only crashed once when I did too many hi quality videos with it. I'm really fortunate, but I also have switched over to Ableton now and I use all external sounds with my Roland FA06 for keys. I would be curious if you could automate changes on the full strips in Logic. You can in Ableton (Ableton is definitely THE best program for live), but I do not know if you can in Logic.

Scott Uhl I’ll figure something out. Thanks man

For Dmxis you need the software and hardware unfortunately. Especially since it has been discontinued :/ I need to find another device and do a video on it

What about the enntec pro?

With Dmxis you would need a computer. But you can send midi to most lighting controllers 👍

@@ScottUhlMusic I do have a laptop I use for my monitor (digital board). Could I send the MIDI file from the tablet via Bluetooth into my laptop??? Or does the MIDI file need to be on the computer???

Hmmm I’ve never tried that. Give it a try and see if it works!

@@ScottUhlMusic that would be so amazing of you. 🤍

Hahaha well this is awkward. I said “give it a try and see if it works” haha. Meaning you guys should give it a try 👍 I don’t have the same setup as you guys do. A LOT of midi stuff is trial and error 🤘

I’m not sure I understand, are you trying to have the lights sync up to the music by actually programming them like I do in this video? Or are you trying to just have the lights act to “sound mode” and respond to the sound of the room?

@@ScottUhlMusic on sound mode but i want to program the lights before. So they need to sync with the music

@@Rubenfiscool Cool, that would not be sound mode then... sound mode is where the lights listen to the music and move/change when the audio reaches a certain threshold. But yes, you can use two laptops if you would like. You just have to get them to sync up to each other.

@@ScottUhlMusic is there something that the light software can detect, because otherwise it won't be perfectly synced haha. I am a beginner in this so I dont know much about it

@@Rubenfiscool I honestly have not used 2 computers synced up at once before, so I'm not sure how to do it. But I know you can. Especially with Ableton, because a friend of mine does that. But I honestly am not sure how to set it up because I never have. But if you can, it's definitely a great way to take the CPU strain off of a single computer and distribute it to two fo them instead.

I've used up to 10 of the Donner wireless DMX dongles with no problems so far.

Nice! Keep me posted

@@ScottUhlMusic It's pretty unreal because when you use it, it feels like you're breaking a rule and you're doing something that's illegal. Like... you're not supposed to be able to do that... or that... like this should be illegal or it should violate some fundamental law of the universe. But it works. And it's like now all of a sudden I cannot possibly ever go back to the traditional way of timecoding because it makes everything else feel dumb. For example, you're not supposed to be able step forward and backward frame by frame and have all effects and cues and everything track perfectly in real time. Because it's all supposed to be trigger-based, not frame based. But this stuff maps the data for each frame so that each frame can be recalled alone. It's wild.

@@jordanhenshawAny update?