How to properly squeeze and/or release a bowling ball

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JR Raymond

JR Raymond

5 жыл бұрын

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@Tenpindoctors
@Tenpindoctors 5 жыл бұрын
Make sure to sign up for Virtual lessons here if you live too far to come see me in person www.patreon.com/lifestractioncontrol
@Fejix87
@Fejix87 5 жыл бұрын
Do you do virtual lessons for two handed bowlers as well?
@Tenpindoctors
@Tenpindoctors 5 жыл бұрын
@@Fejix87 yes
@robertweintraub8130
@robertweintraub8130 5 жыл бұрын
I live in Roseville, MI and I know where you are located do you give lessons at that location?
@kenrulesr.975
@kenrulesr.975 5 жыл бұрын
Def informative
@Tenpindoctors
@Tenpindoctors 5 жыл бұрын
@@robertweintraub8130 yes
@UnscannableDrew
@UnscannableDrew 4 жыл бұрын
I've seen a dozen videos that say "Don't squeeze the ball." and I've been like "How the hell else am I supposed to hold on to it??" Thank you for showing me what to do instead.
@anner4598
@anner4598 Жыл бұрын
Exactly! The pro shop guy has been telling me I don't need the holes enlarged, I need to stop squeezing the ball. Made no sense to me and has been a source of great frustration!
@oscarcan22
@oscarcan22 Жыл бұрын
@@anner4598 just exactly my problem,always I'n always afraid that the ball will fall out of my hand backwards, so I'm like a crab claw, maybe that's why you have to do the simple exercise of holding the ball, leave your hand relaxed, if it doesn't stay in your hand and it falls out, it's not to your measure, you have to change the thumb inserts to another size in which your fingers fit well and the ball doesn't fall out, so when you release it as he says, it will come out by itself but you won't drop it in the process
@justrk3980
@justrk3980 Жыл бұрын
I guess they didn't want us to play proper bowling but instead to watch their whole list of videos
@farhanyatim7575
@farhanyatim7575 7 ай бұрын
we don't get much choice with the house ball do we now.. that's the real problem and we end up using the wrong ball (the heavier one in my case) just because it fits our fingers
@larrytate1657
@larrytate1657 2 ай бұрын
@@farhanyatim7575 you have to get your own ball drilled just for you by the pro shop.
@LiveLifeHonestly
@LiveLifeHonestly 5 жыл бұрын
This is the BEST tip of my life as I was bowling for over 50 years. I now have the swing and released that I only dreamed of throwing. I’ve been using this bowling tip for only 2 days now and my average and accuracy has increased tremendously with the thumb coming out at the same spot every time versus pinching. Hallelujah bowling is fun again,
@davidsoto1472
@davidsoto1472 3 жыл бұрын
I practice every sunday with some friends, can't wait to try this
@bschaeffer12
@bschaeffer12 2 жыл бұрын
I have been bowling my whole life, and just sitting here watching this video I went "OH!" out loud in public. Never occurred to me to push the thumb back. Haven't tried it yet but I am intrigued.
@tomrogue13
@tomrogue13 Жыл бұрын
I did a practice swing worth nothing in my hand and it just felt better
@dannybrooks2807
@dannybrooks2807 5 жыл бұрын
This literally cured a 25plus year problem I never knew I had.
@j20tower
@j20tower 4 жыл бұрын
I started bowling in 1959 lol and have the same problem.
@couchistopdog
@couchistopdog 4 жыл бұрын
So do you push the back of your thumb into the ball? Or do you still squeeze and just not flex the last knuckle?
@seniorbowler2276
@seniorbowler2276 4 жыл бұрын
That goes for me too!
@TheGuitarHistorian
@TheGuitarHistorian 4 жыл бұрын
Danny Brooks ME TOO!
@Mac.Eunique
@Mac.Eunique 9 ай бұрын
4 yrs after being released and this video may have single handedly changed my entire game! This is a golden tip!!! You just gained a subscriber!!
@husssla604
@husssla604 4 ай бұрын
Thank you very much. I just started bowling in a league and went from a house ball to a top-of-the-line-ball (I just had to have because it smelled sooo goood!!!) But anyway, I was having a hard time figuring out just how to get it out of my hand and I watched several videos with no improvement because no one explained this hack and it worked like a charm. Went from a 140-160 with house ball to a 65-120 with my new ball. Since watching this video and using the thumb technique you explained I'm back up to a 150+. Thank you! This literally changed my bowling life!
@JeffBratko
@JeffBratko 2 жыл бұрын
As a newbie to bowling I have been watching many videos about approach, swing and release. On most of the videos they talk about getting your thumb out faster, but never explain how to do that. JR thank you for truely explaining this. I really appreciate how you explain the steps to a better game for the beginer. Please keep bringing us great videos, they really help us non-pros.
@itsagrayarea1833
@itsagrayarea1833 4 жыл бұрын
This guy is one of the best instructors that I've seen on KZfaq. Most thorough and easy to understand
@acdii
@acdii 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, something as simple as curving the thumb back and using just the joint for grip made a HUGE improvement! 8 strikes in a row! Best game I have bowled in years, 243. This and balancing my left arm were the two changes I made on my approach, and both made a huge improvement.
@Below_average_bowler
@Below_average_bowler 2 ай бұрын
The backwards thumb grip tip was clutch my man. Everyone focuses on the release but never mention that tip.
@bigredbeard8283
@bigredbeard8283 4 жыл бұрын
This is golden information. All the bowling videos I've watched this is the first time I hear this technique.
@mreid08
@mreid08 5 жыл бұрын
Are you kidding me, no one has ever suggested I do this in the 17 years bowling league. Just got a Crux Prime and now I'm going to relearn how to roll a ball!! Your amazing thanks!!
@James-un5bc
@James-un5bc 5 жыл бұрын
The more I've been inside a pro shop the more I realize no one's ever explained it properly the way JR just did. It reduces the amount of people coming back into the shop with 'Open the thumb please' SIGNIFICANTLY.
@PjMargraff6bowler
@PjMargraff6bowler 5 жыл бұрын
It works, my revs went from 450 to 500 from rushing the grip to how JR shows in this video
@TraumaER
@TraumaER 5 жыл бұрын
The best video ever made on this topic. So many people in leagues don’t even understand this concept. Glad I follow the tips shown here already but it would have helped me a lot more when I was younger 20+ years ago lol.
@j20tower
@j20tower 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve been bowling for 60 years and no one ever told me about the thumb release and still was able at my best to average 190. Thanks for the tip.
@karnish4956
@karnish4956 5 жыл бұрын
Just when I was dealing with this problem. Thank you very much!
@Grampa-el3kz
@Grampa-el3kz 4 жыл бұрын
Wow. I have only gone bowling a few times in the last 50 years (yes, a real bowling addict, ha ha) . It has been over 30 years since the last time. I had no idea what I was doing and the people I bowled with had no idea either. This video was an amazing lesson. A bowling alley is only a 2 miles away. I am heading there soon!! And watching more of your videos!!! thanks soooo much!!!!
@roderick9018
@roderick9018 5 жыл бұрын
Finally someone explaing it to me instead of just saying don't use your thumb, thank you
@Pamirace
@Pamirace 5 жыл бұрын
This is the video I needed. It's quite a game changer for an amateur
@yogurtstains
@yogurtstains 5 жыл бұрын
This is the best description of what is happening, and what needs to happen regarding the thumb. Thank you so much for this information!
@nygiantswinner
@nygiantswinner 5 жыл бұрын
Great way of explaining where the pressure should be applied and how it affects release. I’ve always heard to use the thumb nail instead of clawing but now it makes sense. Thank You!
@streaky81
@streaky81 5 жыл бұрын
Yep, this is what I've been trying to figure out since I started getting relatively serious about bowling. Thanks so much.
@mannyj8805
@mannyj8805 Жыл бұрын
Got back into bowling this summer and my goal was to correct everything I was doing wrong in my game from my steps (approach) to my arm swing, hand position, and most importantly, my thumb release. Though I’m not at 100% improvement yet, I have been seeing a steady improvement in every aspects of my game. Just wanted to credit you for the improvements thus far. Your instructions are clear and concise. Looking forward to more videos from you. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
@brianmontoya3788
@brianmontoya3788 5 жыл бұрын
Very refreshing tips video. Explanation with demonstration . Keep up the great work!
@KSI_Rogue
@KSI_Rogue 2 жыл бұрын
I have watched videos on drills and how to release and everything. But this is the first one that even mentions the way you grasp the ball with your thumb. I have been trying to find this for weeks, I keep messing up on not knowing how to release my thumb early because I would grasp the ball the wrong way
@MamasFunkyMonkey
@MamasFunkyMonkey 5 жыл бұрын
Where was this video a year ago ... started bowling fall of 2017 and your videos answer questions no one else seems to be able to answer on the proper techniques
@danleyrold45
@danleyrold45 5 ай бұрын
I’ve been bowling for quite a few years. I’ve noticed many bowlers with tape on the nail side of their thumbs, but could never quite figure out why. No one has ever explained this to me and maybe I wasn’t asking the right questions. This is the first time anyone has been able to explain to me clearly How the thumb should grip the ball on the nail side at release. Lots of bowlers around me and nobody has ever talked about this. I am amazed. Can’t wait to try it out at my next session. Thank you.
@AR-eb1cf
@AR-eb1cf Жыл бұрын
This is EXACTLY what I was looking for. The wrong way to hold the thumb is what I was doing consistently and would have never thought that was the issue. Thank you!
@brie1984
@brie1984 5 жыл бұрын
I'm excited to try this. Thank you for this video!
@koo-data4742
@koo-data4742 Жыл бұрын
I mean this from the bottom of my heart, the advice about using the joint of your thumb to grip the ball has been the best advice i could possibly receive to contribute to my growth as a bowler. This is the piece of information that i needed I was gripping the ball with the tip of my thumb, and throwing every ball in the gutter, also ended up getting a blister. My mind has been blown. Thank you.
@joawash
@joawash 4 жыл бұрын
My high-school coach explained this to me maybe once and I never quite understood it. Looking at some of my videos now, it is one the few things that still limit me from improving my game. Thank you for very in-depth video of this technique.
@DS-om5vo
@DS-om5vo 4 жыл бұрын
I tried this out today in practice. I was much more consistent with my release and was so surprised at how much more power I had with a relaxed had at the bottom of the swing. For years I've been trying to get more revs and power by muscling the ball. Looks like I've been doing to much for years. Definitely giving this a go in league next week. Thanks for the tip!
@ozneroll2132
@ozneroll2132 5 жыл бұрын
Wow.....best video of all when it comes to releasing a ball...thanks JR!
@jjones283111
@jjones283111 5 жыл бұрын
Keep the videos coming JR. Love what you are doing for our sport!
@mrsmith7232
@mrsmith7232 2 жыл бұрын
This is ABSOLUTELY the best video and description on how to release the ball for better rev's I have seen, thank you for sharing.
@trublu3287
@trublu3287 5 жыл бұрын
Good to know. I grip it with my thumb in. So now I see why my shot is different from one release to the other.
@robertberry7461
@robertberry7461 5 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to say thank you for the video tips on taping the thumb hole and the one on how to properly grip/squeezing the ball. I was developing a callus on my thumb knuckle and was getting concerned since this was never an issue in the past. After watching your videos I removed all of the tape I had in the slug and taped the way you suggested. I just finished league and I had no issues releasing the thumb. Thank you again for showing me a new way of taping the thumb. Gratefully Robert
@wizardseye
@wizardseye 3 жыл бұрын
This is the answer to grip I've been trying to figure out for years and no one has explained properly! I've always had problems with grip and had people tell me to stop squeezing, but I didn't understand how to hold the ball on my hand otherwise. I've also had terrible problems with rubbing the skin off the back of my thumb due to squeezing. Thank you so much!
@jeffreyjansen6620
@jeffreyjansen6620 5 жыл бұрын
Three great videos in the last couple of weeks. Cannot wait and try this today!
@worldofufosofficial8658
@worldofufosofficial8658 2 жыл бұрын
I think this instructional + your tape fit instructional = a great one-two punch. Good stuff. Great explanation. Appreciated.
@geeneri7363
@geeneri7363 5 жыл бұрын
Great advice!!! Didn't realize why my grip was constantly inconsistent every week. I keep reverting back to my old claw grip but this made excellent sense now. Will keep a conscious though about my thumb tonight and see what happens.
@PjMargraff6bowler
@PjMargraff6bowler 5 жыл бұрын
JR this absolutely works!!!! My rev count went way higher and bball releases so much smoother off my hand because of this tip. THANK YOU!!!!
@bryantpeppers50
@bryantpeppers50 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great information and the video was very helpful
@oldgoat50
@oldgoat50 5 жыл бұрын
As someone who had bowled for about 40 years, this was a great video to show new and experienced bowlers the proper things to do. Will you do an advanced video on pitches in the thumb and fingers in the future?
@mikeroark5570
@mikeroark5570 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video and your tips! I used your suggestions last night and rolled back to back 200 and 225 games! My normal average is 145 or so. Once I got into the swing of things with the thumb positioning, my ball placement and hook were much more consistent!
@allenhuffcutt7002
@allenhuffcutt7002 3 жыл бұрын
Man, I wish I had seen this when I started bowling decades ago. After watching this video I realized that I have been squeezing from the knuckles and the wrong part of the thumb. Time to hit the lanes and learn to do it correctly. Thanks!
@genewick2633
@genewick2633 5 жыл бұрын
Outstanding! Never heard this before. I'll definitely be working on this release.
@chadanderson6705
@chadanderson6705 2 жыл бұрын
JR, I know this video is almost 3 years old, but I stumbled across it a couple days ago and tried it out last night at league. all I can say is.. THANK YOU! I have been a low rev bowler for very and have ben trying to fix that. I've watched a ton of videos about the yo-yo release and what to do with your wrist and to get your thumb out first, etc, etc, but none of them really helped me until I saw this. I realize now my thumb hole is too big in most of my balls so I will need to address that, but that's my own fault. I wanted a bigger thumb hole so I could get my thumb out faster, I see now it doesn't work that way lol. The balls I have where the thumbs are the right size felt great off my hand and had good rotation. Even though the fit was "snug", I never stuck in the ball or lofted it. So once again, THANK YOU!
@MrMikemary
@MrMikemary 5 жыл бұрын
Such simple things to improve your game, thanks buddy great Vid!
@joeandreola4205
@joeandreola4205 5 жыл бұрын
It really works, I found this out accidently and had a 600+ series but I thought it was dumb luck and I stopped doing it. I will be doing it from now on though!!
@MetalJuggler
@MetalJuggler 4 жыл бұрын
Just started trying to curve the ball few weeks back. Best tutorials out there for sure, both here and your bowlingX videos. Keep up the good work dude!
@dustinfrazier4572
@dustinfrazier4572 5 ай бұрын
I have never hit the sub button on any you tube video but here i am almost 9 p.m my time rolling my ball in the house and truly feel that this is why i have been so inconsistent in my release. Definitely taking this to the lanes tomorrow for a full scale tryout. This is the by far the best tip i have seen to date. Would definitely like to see some more of you videos and possibly send a video or two to see if there are things i an improve on.. thanks Jr sir for time you take to help better the people in the sport
@andyisnotfunny3002
@andyisnotfunny3002 5 жыл бұрын
I was given a ball as an anniversary present and was talked into getting a fingertip grip (because it's a nicer ball). We rolled three games on saturday night and I was all over the place. If I wasn't getting a loud audible pop and throwing it left from my thumb getting caught, I was releasing too early and rolling right into the right gutter. (I'm a newbie all around, admittedly) Someone suggested that I "use the back of my thumb to grip" but all that did when I practiced at home was make me feel like my nail was going to get smashed. Gripping with the section of my thumb after that last knuckle, I can feel the tip of my thumb pulling back and staying away from "clawing" into the ball and can feel the difference just rolling down the hall. Nobody's explained it like this yet. I'm excited to see how this helps my consistency, when I got a few shots right the other night they were SWEET...but too few and far between. Thanks for this video!
@montetown8836
@montetown8836 5 жыл бұрын
Reading the comments below I have to agree with a lot of them. Can't wait to try it and it makes SO much sense!
@infostarhanger
@infostarhanger 5 жыл бұрын
first time someone explained this properly. fantastic video
@GoodnotGreat88
@GoodnotGreat88 Жыл бұрын
I am really excited to try this out. I am a newer bowler who just joined my first league and your videos have been very helpful. Thank you!
@MrFreeZ2U
@MrFreeZ2U 5 жыл бұрын
A note to anyone struggling with this technique, doing this will cause your grip on the ball to feel weakened. This is where a proper fix really takes effect. Gripping with the inside of your thumb is harder to do because your body isn't used to it. Doing this without a proper fix can in fact cause higher grip pressure, causing fatigue and bad shot making. Be sure to use tape and other resources to snug up (to your comfort level) the thumb hole. If you are still having issue gripping the ball in this fashion ask your pro-shop owner about changing the pitch in you thumb hole to get a proper fitting/feel for the ball allowing you to use this technique effectively. Finally I highly recommend this to anyone having issues with timing at the release point.
@Tenpindoctors
@Tenpindoctors 5 жыл бұрын
Yes. Very well said
@Thrd_Wrld
@Thrd_Wrld 5 жыл бұрын
This video save my thumb. Thank you so much.
@chriskelleher5294
@chriskelleher5294 Жыл бұрын
Great Great lesson ! I have a bad habit of squeezing the ball with my thumb and I understand exactly what your talking about. I really needed to hear this advice and I am sure this will help me a lot so thank you so much !
@rickwicks6497
@rickwicks6497 5 жыл бұрын
This is mind blowing..I have a different release on every shot because of squeezing. Thanks very much, I will work on this tirelessly!
@codylawson6857
@codylawson6857 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you JR I’ve never heard of this technique before I’m going to try it thanks for all your great videos
@scherer321
@scherer321 5 жыл бұрын
Always appreciate good info.
@gingerzoe2431
@gingerzoe2431 5 жыл бұрын
This does help. Very informative
@edwh164
@edwh164 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the advice, I am going to try this tomorrow night.
@dcl4dg
@dcl4dg 5 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for a video like this for many years! Thank you,
@hbarwickjr
@hbarwickjr 3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful instructions. Thank you
@lonmasterful
@lonmasterful 4 жыл бұрын
This helped me a lot. Thank you JR!
@saramarker2406
@saramarker2406 5 жыл бұрын
Great info! Thanks JR!!
@arahmanbalushi8442
@arahmanbalushi8442 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for explanation Very much helpful
@tedraortega
@tedraortega 3 жыл бұрын
I have watched about every bowling 101 video I can find and you are the only one that has discussed this and that’s exactly what I was looking for awesome tip thank you
@warshrike666
@warshrike666 5 жыл бұрын
I tried it tonight JR and it worked a treat, once i got used to it. Started with a couple 170's then hit the 200's once i got used to the feel of where the ball is now siting on my thumb, gripping with it pointed backward . Thank you again for the vid so helpful, looking forward to league now ready to throw some good games (well for me anyway lol). Oh and for everyone else it did increase my rev rate a lot. My ball which is a Hammer Ripped Asymetrical was really hooking nice into the pocket when i got it all right in the release.
@ronaldsmalls9366
@ronaldsmalls9366 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome advice, great tips. I've been bowling for over 40 years and for 40 years I've been gripping my ball the wrong way thanks
@kimberlyhilligoss800
@kimberlyhilligoss800 5 жыл бұрын
This was very helpful thank you
@r.i.p.paperroutefrank3942
@r.i.p.paperroutefrank3942 5 жыл бұрын
Great video 210 average and I have been dropping because of this and never knew this was my problem. Thanks keep making these tips
@MrSouthernInfo
@MrSouthernInfo 4 жыл бұрын
Great video!!! You hit the head on the nail when talking about fluctuations in rev rates and I fall victim to this. I will admit I do knuckle in the ball a little but not as bad as I use to. I hate when i would be on a serious string of strikes then all of a sudden my rev rate would spike out of nowhere and I will have a high pocket hit or split. I am looking to clean up my release and I will start experimenting with thumb tape. Thanks for the advice.
@ameraizad2064
@ameraizad2064 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you JR. This is the best technique and easy for understanding how to release the bowling ball. All this time I’ve been doing it wrong and the ball jump up on the lane because of squeezing the ball.
@drakedbz
@drakedbz 2 жыл бұрын
Dude you have no idea how much this video just helped me. I watched this a few weeks back, but I was still working on other things at the time. Just now I went and got my bowling balls, and sure enough, they don't stay on my hand unless I knuckle them. I got some tape out and tightened up the thumbs, did a few slow practice releases onto my bed, and holy crap I can hold the ball without gripping, and release consistently now! Can't wait to try them out on the lanes, when my arm recovers from all the damned muscling I've been doing to compensate for the knuckling LOL I think it may be time for me to consider a swappable thumb, so I don't have to get the tape just right in all of my balls. Maybe then I can have a consistent release no matter which ball I use.
@warshrike666
@warshrike666 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the vid mate. I have been having trouble for over a month trying to get my rev rate up and getting my release right. I was in a trance watching you as it is exactly what i am doing wrong, I am clawing at the ball. You have me so excited now i will go and jump on the lanes for practice as soon as i can before i bowl next just to give this a try but i know if i can get it right it will change everything for me. Thanks again for the vid JR keep em coming oh and i subscribed for you as well.
@YourRealDaddy
@YourRealDaddy 2 жыл бұрын
What an eyeopening tip! Thanks for this video 🤙🏾
@LETHALxMODs
@LETHALxMODs 4 ай бұрын
I needed this so bad, thank you so much I'm glad I finally found this video!
@b-radley2425
@b-radley2425 Жыл бұрын
very helpful ty! cant wait to go try this
@paulejr7410
@paulejr7410 2 жыл бұрын
As a 20+ year 5-pin bowler, I’ve moved in to 10-pin this year. Figuring out my grip and release is a main focus right now because I’ve already noticed that I never release the ball the same way twice. Thank you for this.
@curtisjackson3445
@curtisjackson3445 Жыл бұрын
Great video!!! I been doing just the opposite for years and I see why I struggle at times with my release
@paulp8937
@paulp8937 6 ай бұрын
Thanks J R, I already knew about this tip but it’s very easy to forget if it’s not practiced very much. I’ll definitely make this part of my practice routine!
@jameslicorish6501
@jameslicorish6501 5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant tip!!! I'll be working on it next time out.
@bbfeign1
@bbfeign1 4 жыл бұрын
these are great lessons thank you
@alexallen126
@alexallen126 3 жыл бұрын
This was so helpful for me. I just commented on one of your other videos thinking that I needed thumb tape. Turns out I was just gripping the ball, which is causing me to yank it. Thank you so much!
@janhor7525
@janhor7525 5 жыл бұрын
Great instructions! Thanks
@zolliethomas9923
@zolliethomas9923 5 жыл бұрын
Great tip, JR!
@shamoo4233
@shamoo4233 28 күн бұрын
Ooooo I thought my thumb fit was too tight but it was actually right when I first got it drilled. The quote “let the ball release you” really makes sense and that’s probably why I can’t get any revs. Gotta get some thumb tape now
@SirHugoStiglitz
@SirHugoStiglitz 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent guide, man! Appreciate you
@duke4905
@duke4905 4 жыл бұрын
This video was made for me. Thank you very much
@nytewindz
@nytewindz 5 жыл бұрын
Great tips. I will give this a try!
@benniewilliams2709
@benniewilliams2709 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. Very helpful.
@Fried_Rice_Ren
@Fried_Rice_Ren 5 жыл бұрын
Genius. Thank you JR
@mickleejohnson1500
@mickleejohnson1500 2 жыл бұрын
Wow best tip for me as a beginner!! Thanks
@Viper27130
@Viper27130 5 жыл бұрын
Deffinently going to try this Thursday. Thanks!
@andrewgarrison4014
@andrewgarrison4014 5 жыл бұрын
Yep I'ma have to try this starting during league
@TheMariokillu
@TheMariokillu 5 жыл бұрын
Make a lot of sense. Been struggling recently with my release. Will try this tomorrow at league night.
@jamespassarell3519
@jamespassarell3519 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative video. Makes a lot of sense to me.
@matafungsi89
@matafungsi89 2 жыл бұрын
That was awesome! it give huge impact of my game. Thank you sir 👍🏼
@bbfeign1
@bbfeign1 4 жыл бұрын
great lesson thank you
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