Not for nothing, but this has been going on for a decade or more. People use to ask me to check those silver sticker #s quite a bit back in 2012 and on. Then when I open the box, they would always get a big hit or case hit. That seemed so unfair to me. So at that point I stopped showing sticker #s and made it where people had to roll the dice or pick a number. Also in other products the code # inside the box would tell if you got the case hit. The 8 string # would change for the case hit, but that was in the inside the wrapped box. But once I figured out people could find sequences, I refused to show those sliver sticker #s and made people pick a #. For many years, I would write in sharpie # 1 to 12 on the boxes once the case was opened. Then they had to pick #s or roll the dice. I did this so the people that were following the case, would know I wasn't switching out boxes, etc. I use to draw faces on the Flawless boxes, so people would know that was the leftover box. I would do anything to show that I wasn't switching any boxes out of a case. But I wouldn't show the identifying silver sticker #s to identify them.

Hats off to LMS for doing the right thing and bringing this to light.

By keeping the sequence secret, you allow the nefarious people to capitalize on that. They could buy cases and resell the ones that wont have the card. If you properly educate the masses on what to look for when buying boxes, you can better prevent people from getting screwed over

SPORTS CARD RADIO once again helping and saving us from getting ripped off. Thank you SCR for informing us with this significant information about loaded boxes.

Being severely green to collecting, videos like this scare the shit out of me but I’m so grateful there’s good guys like this in the hobby

I love Crown Royale and I love collecting the Silhouettes with the Prime patches in the background. I only buy into breaks if I can pick my team and there was one WhatNot breaker that ran PYT’s. For a good while when the product was new, he would run four breaks a night with each break having 1/4 of a fresh case. I watched these breaks off and on for a few weeks. Anyway, all 10/10 cases that I saw him break the Kaboom would always be found in the final 1/4 of the case. This would drive up the demand for each subsequent break and allow the breaker to get more money for each spot since it was always “Kaboom is live”. Up until the final 1/4 case, which would then be the “Guaranteed Kaboom” break and prices would go way up. I always knew it was fishy, but I figured that the Kaboom box was always in the same position within the case (like 3rd from the bottom on the right for example). Well now I guess that it was even easier than that and for sure these breakers knew the con.

Yeah you're going to see this all over eBay now. extra jacked up prices for the boxes with Kabooms. Hot boxes LOL

You guys continue to be the most important channel in the hobby, always holding people accountable it’s needed now more than ever!

They all are in it together! I have stopped buying boxes and even packs a while ago I will go buy what I want and that's it. These card companies are so dishonest it makes me sick. This stuff has been going on for years! Keep up the good work in exposing these guys. Love the channel!

I was one of the 1st members of LMS Breaks. We speak sporadically being that we are on opposite ends of the country. I broke with him because of his integrity. Phenomenal. I'm also so very proud and happy for Kev. & Gio. ...and I can continually be happy that everyone that buys from him will get an equal chance at a monster.

This goes back to when I started. 1989 Upper Deck. Upper left, three packs down… Griffey Jr Rookie. I bought every one in the state. Ha ha and I was just a kid.

Saw a dude do this today on whatnot, makes me wonder how many breakers and card shop owners know this too and knowingly hold the kaboom for their last break of the night selling the dream in all their early breaks of “kaboom is active” knowing they are holding the kaboom for the last break of night and off loading their shit boxes first pumping the bids on early breaks selling the dream of hitting the kaboom, and even one step further once the breaker finds the code out they just keep the kaboom for themselves and NEVER EVEN PUT IT INTO A BREAK and continue to sell the dream

This hobby is compromised boys. ✌️this is all I needed to hear

this is REALLY BIG! thank you guys for breaking this into the public! hats off to LMS and SCR, hopefully Panini do something about this.

You can literally watch five or six videos and figure out the code. Wow, hell of a revelation.

More shadiness in the hobby… I’m beyond shocked! Especially, when the industry has honest people like Ken Goldin to learn from 😂

Backyard breaks probably gamed this explains a lot now

Good on these guys from LMS for helping bring this to light. Sadly I feel these guys are more in the minority than the majority of "breakers" in the hobby. I'm so glad I have no interest in ever buying boxes of modern cards, it just gets more and more shady.

This is not the first time the hologram has been a give-away to the contents. Going old school on you here, but Upper Deck put out a box set in 1991 or 1992 that had a gold version randomly inserted in the cases. Only problem was, you guessed it, the hologram was the give away to the gold version! Now I feel old for remembering this!

The resale values of these boxes are going to PLUMMET, and people who bought these before now have to worry if someone they bought them from knew abut this, and just didn't say anything. I would say this will by far not be the typical case, but you never know with stuff like this.

Caruso: Well Frank, it looks like Panini just hit a Kaboom of their own *"Won't Get Fooled Again" blares in background*

KABOOOMMMMMM !!!! I KNEW SPORTS CARD RADIO WAS ONTO SOMETHING AND HERE WE GO LADIES and gents !! TIME TO ROLL BACK THE CAMERA ON THE CODES TO SOME OF THE OTHER PRODUCTS CASE HITS !!!!

It makes sense. If they need one box in each case that has a case hit, they somehow have to know which boxes have the case hit to seed the cases.

Of course, Panini will quickly switch up the codes and put boxes out that have that code but do NOT contain Kabooms. Easiest way for them to debunk the "theory". They knew this day would come and you can bet they're prepared

I remember seeing a video from the Atlantic City national and a guys booth was loaded with at least 100 kabooms and I was like holy crap but now it all makes sense

I'd say there is a very high chance this stuff has gone on for years and only a very select group of people were onto it. The people that could figure it out the easiest are of course those massive breakers that do many cases of each product. Would be pretty easy to just take note of what came from what box and compare those stickers to find similar patterns after 4 or 5 cases.

Thank you guys ALL INVOLVED! I knew it! I said the serial numbers all through live stream about backdoor breaks

Next time i get a case hit , auto ,ect im going to start tracking the holo # im going to start with optic hangers and move on to prizm blaster boxes i have a feeling there are codes across all products

In football, Absolute blasters and hangers weigh more if they contain a Kaboom. Foil vs. paper. I met a kid at Target a few years ago. I was trying to figure out restocks so I could actually open something. He was a reseller and scammer. He would buy everything, take it home and weigh the boxes, then return 99% of it. The friendship didn’t last.

My wife told me I was crazy for keeping all of the boxes I opened and cataloging what I got from the box.

LOL, just went back and saw Packman's video of a FOTL Crown Royal box he opened for his channel and not only did he hit a Kaboom he also hit a 1/1 card in the same box.

Being able to figure out what products have inside by serial #s has been around for many years. People have been buying cases for a long time just to figure out the pattern and reselling the boxes to companies like blowout and Dave&Adams. My LCS has been putting price stickers over the serial #s just for this very reason.

I had a card shop for 20 years. This kind of stuff has been going on for years.. I remember in the early 90s like 92 leaf the hit was always on top left corner. There was codes on Upper Deck back in the day that you could find stuff too. The year they started putting inserts in people were weighing them too. I had a friend that bought a ton of cases and he could find good stuff from the numbers and codes. When I had my shop I had a rule that I never opened my own wax. Also I would open the box and mix the packs before putting them out..

This has probably been a thing for a decade plus. Some inside knowledge among dealers. I have card shops I can’t even buy boxes from because they all feel searched. Every time I hit nothing.

This is why we break by the case so it's legit. ORIGINS football just released and the booklets can be weighed. Geoff just made a video and got a booklet opening one box.. Everyone has known about scaling cards forever this is nothing new. Panini won't change.. Just stick to trustworthy sellers

I remember there was the same sort of thing with the Panini Donruss Soccer RTQ Hobby boxes too. The boxes had a series of numbers printed on the inside flap which would, eventually, indicate a case hit Kaboom or not

Im tellin ya. This is exactly what dave and adams knows and does. I bought about a grands worth of 2017 Panini Chronicles blasters they had on clearance at their brick and mortar store (like 75ish boxes) and didnt hit one auto and the only guaranteed gold #'d card parallels. D&a had to weight them or know the anomally in serial numbers that have hits and then pulled those boxes outta case and sell off the rest. Shady practice, ive literally spent a ton of money at their store on various sealed products and have never hit anything of real value.

Don't blame consumers for wanting to get the best cards they can get with their hard earned money....blame panini for either being really careless or being really shady

It's about time you two Dudes showed up to the scene.

I haven’t bought many breaks or boxes lately, but this officially confirms I won’t be buying in the near future at all

Nothing new....how do you think backyard breaks was hitting all the big cards? Im 100% sure these dealers actually contact big breakers with a big rep or who have allocation and sell the big hit cases for more money than regular boxes.

I’ve noticed this with Topps products as well. I’ve been looking at the sticker code, comparing it with the other boxes around it, and choosing the one that doesn’t seem to fit. Did it with 2021 chrome update, pulled an auto. Did it with 2022 chrome mega, pulled a purple O’Neil Cruz.

LOL, this is how the breakers and big youtubers seem to get the best cards. Panini shares the code with them so they can pull out the loaded boxes and open it on youtube or whatever to promote the product more. There was a sale of FOTL Crown Royale back in September that had the Kaboom code (which is not very hard to figure out), sold for $1200, all of the ones listed on Ebay now do not have the code. I always suspected the buying orphan boxes on Ebay was a losing endeavor. I've gotten the best cards only when I buy a case of something, not individual boxes that have already been orphaned from a case somewhere. I bet alot of people are going through other sets, boxes, years now trying to crack the case hit code, lol...

Longtime busters know this! Why would manufacturers have serial numbers in the first place if it wasn’t to track stuff?! That’s why you had to send the box top with serial numbers I believe when you made a claim that you didn’t get what was promised in a box.

A few years ago I was in a group break and someone was asking to see the serial number of the boxes and he mentioned in the chat exactly what's being mentioned in this video, I honestly thought he was either nuts or trolling but now that I see this WOW!

I have been saying this since the 2013-2014 year..... I used to break all the time and certain guys would ask me to snap a screenshot of the silver serial number on the box I knew that something was up with that. Been saying that for years now.

Sheeeesh RIP to NC0596 😂

Panini just ruined breaking. No breaker is going to put a loaded box into circulation. They will absolutely keep it for themselves.

Kevin and Geo are unicorns in the breakers world. Honest…..

I can't believe nobody has thought of this until now. Its probally like that with any big hits. Aka Logo man. BYB

Sounds like someone who works at panini is getting paid by breakers. Probably friends.

Yep. Been this way for a while. I remember opening cases of UD NFL stuff way back in the day and there would be a couple boxes in each case that would have serial numbers out of sequence on the NFL holograms. Some products is definitely meant something, others not so much.

So basically don't buy into panini breaks unless it's a sealed case?

Similar thing happened last year with 2021 Certified Football but not necessarily with numbers on the front. I noticed after pulling a Fields and Lance RPA out of separate boxes and cases that both contained the “Case Hit” insert card. I thought it may have been a coincidence, so I decided to do some research. I watched tens of case breaks, and sure enough in every case the box that contained the “Case Hit” Insert card had one of the top 5 QB(T Law, Fields, Mac, Lance, and Wilson) RPA in it. Which comes to the concern of mine. The “Case Hit” insert card was thicker stock card than standard base(80pt vs 20pt) which of course weighs more. If breakers figured this out and weighed the boxes they knew which one would contain the QB RPA in it

Broke back Brad and Canal Street Ken are the best names in the game

I think it's with every product across the board. Think about it. The manufacturers have to do accounting. They know where every 1/1 kabooms etc. Like the 86/87 fleer basketball sequences or 83 donruss baseball. Finding Jordans and Gwynn rookies were pretty easy back then. Now it's a larger scale. People are getting crafty. Especially the breakers. The breakers open most of this stuff. It isn't hard to find kabooms or superfractors 1/1s if there's a sequence. Especially cases. finding the case hit. If I buy a product, It's a case of them. Don't want anyone tampering with my cards. Do I think breakers knew about this earlier? Shit yeah!! It's a business. Either it's a sequence of #s on a box or player patterns.

Y'all need T-shirts that say "Telling it like it is since (insert year here)" Appreciate you exposing the seedy underbelly of the hobby.

So I guess it's no longer a Tesla

I’d love to see someone look into backyard breaks hits and see how many of their hits have the code sequence in them

As much as I understand him not wanting people to know the code.. he knows and so do others so it's the only way forward. Breakers can quite easily only pick none kaboom boxes

Im sure it is part of the Quality Control / sequencing to make sure they are put in there, and they think no one would catch on. Look at the Hockey series 2 this year with security tags, young guns in every pack and bowman baseball with the security tag....

"the whole 'havent pulled a kaboom yet" takes on a whole new meaning.....

The popular method in other products is to look on the inside of the flap of a box. I remember Revolution and Prizm ( i think) basketball products inside flap boxes could tell what type of autograph subject you would get.

I think they should open up the boxes,take the packs out, shuffle them around so no one can cheat on a break

Those two boxes that had a kaboom have the same numbers on the sticker except the one ends in …60 the other ends ….61 Literally the next box off the line.

So who is the D-bag breaker that conned their way into a Kaboom? Would be nice for us that might want to do future breaks to know who to avoid.....

Think in 2009-10 basketball timeless treasure the bottom boxes of the case had the big hits

THATS WHO I BREAK WITH LMS. HES SOLID

With Kabooms in the new Chronicles Draft Picks have these guys tested the sequence on those?

LMS YOU JUST EARNED ALL MY BUSINESS. THANK YOU!

In 2022 they can come up with a procedure to load the packs, and then cases automatically without human intervention? You would think this could be automated in the packing process regardless of a box serial numbers etc.. -- Anyway, great stuff as usual. Hopefully this finally opens some eyes, and gets a response from Panini.

Could this be considered insider trading if they know? Wire fraud ? Gotta be something there as it’s know longer a game of chance.

LMS is a very legit . One of the best breakers around

I appreciate you guys for this. I have heard the same is true with One and One boxes.

Wow....! This why I followed you. Thanks for this brother! Keep feeding us GEMS 💥💥💥💯💯💯🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

I’ve been saying this for 2 years. I stopped joining mixers immediately. Game over for all the scam group breakers who keep the good boxes for themselves. You can find galactics, mosaic genesis, and prizm blacks for sure with these. I pulled 2 Luka Doncic Genesis from hangers and the code was identical.

Kaboom! is the sound of Panini prices imploding.

you know what you're doing, keep up the good work

not as cool, but I remember the topps walmart factory set with the full parallel sets were easy to spot (full parallel vs base sets) based on the serial number in the MLB logo. I think I went like 12 for 12 guessing them. Unfortunately they don't really carry a huge premium on them unlike finding a kaboom

I’ve tried testing this theory out before (it’s made it’s rounds) with Topps product. I tried with Mega boxes because I didn’t want to spend thousands on cases. It was interesting but nothing I could say for sure without a bigger sample size. Topps Chrome Update was the product. Regardless, this really sucks but not unexpected to finally be confirmed on the big stage.

This blows my mind. Great video & information guys!

I remember in 92, you could get a pack, bottom right in the upper deck box, and it always had a mail in card to get the Shaq rookie. I actually still have both cards. But I don't remember how I found that out 😆

Wow!! As a new guy to the hobby I always kinda figured if there was a way to know this kinda info and there is. Wonder how many ppl got ripped off from this.

Going back to the early 2000s, Upper Deck sets used to have an auto jersey as a case hit. There were 12 boxes in the case, 11 of the boxes serial numbers would be in sequential order and one of the boxes would be something different - that box had the case hit jersey auto. So for example the box numbers would be something like 456232501 to 456232511 and then there would be something like 102354743.

Of course, that's why they have the numbers, Topps has them too, you just need to know what to look for and yes, absolutely, breakers know this and I'm sure panini hooks up certain breakers.

Great investigative work, on to something huge

This is also similar to Downtown, I saw some can spot it per case.

i saw the break where the guy pulled a cade 1 of 1 auto when the guy opened the case the guy picked the only box that was turned the wrong way it was weird just recxently on whatnot

Grimy card "collector's" in the Game, super sad and disappointing! But so glad to hear and finally saw this video 9 months after it was posted! But I wasn't "Searching for it" so thank all three of you for exposing the fraud ppl/vendors even! I have heard/seen Vendors who get full cases that are into the hobby as well, and they will rip a case open and start opening each Blaster box until they get the "Case Hit" then they will go deliver the "remaining of the case to the store by just bringing in a couple blaster (12) @ most when they come in to "stock the Product" like I said, a lot of shady people out their only thinking about themselves! When so many people do this for either a hobby, passion, or even a full time job!! So once again thank you 3! And everyone of our "Legitimate card collectors" NEED! to stay together and spread the word because nobody that collects cards weather hobby or for a career, deserves to get "conned/Ripped off" this Hobby is already expensive enough as it is to have people like that involved ruining it for everyone else, thanks again guys!

love this forensic video!!

I remember back in 2019-20 seeing a forum post about being able to spot big hits from Prizm basketball

I think this will work itself out. Its not completely different from back in the day when people knew where cards were by the sequence (a la Jordan Fleer RC etc) or pack/box location in the case. Another similar more recent example is pack fondling/molesting by those creepy 40 year old dudes that you'd see at Target with the scale their mom uses to weigh their meals weighing all the packs. Or they damage all the cards trying to get a peek at the card #s through the translucent wrapper. Bottom line - Breakers who have transparency and continue to pull case hits for their customers will be fine. Shady breakers who never pull anything or only seem to pull stuff in "personals" for a select few "customers" won't.

My guess is there are combos on all Panini boxes where the numbers correspond to what is in the box. I would say that codes exist for Select, NT, Crown, Prizim. Wonder if there is a code for downtowns on One and One basketball??

Shout out to the KZfaq premium zooming in on videos is my jam

So basically all Kaboom cards should be cheap, since easy to pull. They are easier to get compared to the actual base card. Don't pay more than $10 on those.

I said months ago this is fact. I bought a box from fresh case. I didn't receive my Autograph. Contacted them I had to send off box and receipt. Then I got message saying Yeah mess up. I called guy said they know what box every case hit is in and what card it is player and variations. That's how they knew what card to give me. Why everybox has serial numbers.

The 1992-93 Beam Teams were like this. 99% of the time they were always located in the same position in the box. The card show dealers would open the box and pull both beam teams out and then let the sheep buy up the crap in hopes of pulling that Shaq beamer.

They over saturated kabooms. They’re on downtown level now.

And to think that a lot of people said that BYB was just lucky to hit all those 1/1s 😂 😂 😂

Yes sir u got em red handed them Panini ppl are done n on top of that I definitely wasn't wit breaks now I'll probably never break wit ppl this is crazy but I'm not surprised ..