How to Re-Gear A Jeep Gladiator/Wrangler JL Axle!

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Жыл бұрын

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Its time to install a new gearset in my 2020 Jeep Gladiator. Around 3 years ago, we installed 5.13 gears which have been a great ratio choice. Unfortunately, on a recent road trip the pinion gear decided to chip and shear off teeth while driving on the highway. This time, i decided to go with Revolution Gear and Axle 5.13 gears after hearing lots of positive reviews.
Re-gear jobs are fairly complicated and meticulous, but with some good knowledge and mechanical skill its not too hard to DIY. In this video we show you how to setup the ring and pinion, check backlash, tooth contact pattern, use of setup bearings, rubicon locker removal, pinion preload and more.
Like i mentioned, there is a major difference between Spicer ADVANTEK gears (2 Cut), and other 5 cut aftermarket gears. The major difference in install is the Backlash Specification. 5 cut aftermarket gears spec backlash around 6-10 thousandths, whereas Advantek (Stock or lower ratio spicer gears) spec around 3-6 thou.
This difference in specs could very well be leading to lots of premature failures if not noticed.
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@kennmanus5091 10 ай бұрын

This is the first time I've seen anyone go through the whole shim process. Thanks!

@adamstewart5340 Жыл бұрын

I’ve been watching your videos for a long time, and this type of video is why. I feel like if you can recapture this video dynamic you will crush it. Take it for what it’s worth, but great job on this video.

@Trex76us Жыл бұрын

With a clam shell puller you need to have the race on the bearing when pulling them off. It keep the bearing from coming part. On the JL/JT I can pull the bearing off about 75% of the time and can reuse it if needed. There are times when I just have to cut it off.

@pauljordan756 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing the insight that the race should be on when pulling the bearing. I had a similar issue to Ben on mine and it may have worked if I had know to have the race on there during pull. Will do that next time. 👍

@santacruzoverlander Жыл бұрын

I wish you were my neighbor. Informative and overwhelming at the same time.

@mkdn Жыл бұрын

Just stumbled upon this piece of gold. Nice work, thanks for showing everyone how hard it actually is 👍🏻

@jlautomotive6349 Жыл бұрын

I know I’ve said it before but I love your channel and all the knowledge you bring!! Just bought my ‘20 Gladiator sport and can’t wait to build it up!! Keep up the amazing work!! 👍

@mro025 8 ай бұрын

New to ALLLLL OF THIS but wow this gave me a lot of insight on gearing and the inner parts of what my new Mojave has! Great video! Subscribed!

@obsessioniskey Жыл бұрын

Regeared my 23 jt yesterday in my garage. Went from 3.73 to 4.88 with 35” kenda klever. Used the revolution gear and master install kit with great success. Did a couple short around town trips today and everything seems great

@traviskenoyer9873 Жыл бұрын

Haven't watched the video. Not really into gladiators, BUT just wanted to say I really appreciate all the hard work your videos are better than some "other" offroading jeep couples on utube.

@boostdtalon Жыл бұрын

I ran revolution gears in my YJ. They survived 6 years and multiple wheeling trips before the ring gear went. Definitely recommend them.

@pauljordan756 Жыл бұрын

I have 5.13 Revolution gears in my 2020 JT running 37’s have 26k miles and pleased so far.

@GoXplr Жыл бұрын

I learned more in 10 mins of this video than 5 years of mechanics class in high school .... 😀 Guessing you wont be in Pigeon Forge for a surprise appearance this year. King of the Hammers build looking nice. Good luck to yall and safe wheeling

@user-zp2ms8cv5r Жыл бұрын

Awesome video. Happy 4th of July 🇺🇸 to your family.

@nicholascooper1193 Жыл бұрын

The big benefit of doing it yourself is that you can be confident in it. And if you get lazy and just send it, it's on you.

@hotroddude6551 8 ай бұрын

First, great shirt. I live near BG (LS swap the world). But, the markings on the pinion are depth measurements that you measure from the maincap surface, That would have got your pinion depth 99.9% on.. Nowthen, Run Amsoil to avoid future problems. Love your vids.

@nathansheridan7949 Жыл бұрын

I had a Yukon 5.13 pinion fail on my gladiator also. Lasted 10k miles and my ring gear also looked perfect.

@ALongLongWaytoGO Жыл бұрын

Mike……A man of MANY words. LOL He may not say much….BUT….When he does…I shall ALWAYS listen.

@TheDon8771 Жыл бұрын

I agree. 😂😁

@DannyCsaszar Жыл бұрын

Great video. tip when using the bearing puller remember to put the bearing race on during the process.

@romelosugarhill3753 Жыл бұрын

I have them so far. I have no complaints about them actually went to Daytona Florida & Miami hit 90 mile N hour the good so far

@FlawedOffroad Жыл бұрын

You can set the carrier in the shop press and squeeze it down to torque the ring gear bolts

@JKGearandGadgets Жыл бұрын

Great idea!

@StormbornJKU Жыл бұрын

I’m a big fan of Yukon. I’ve been running their gears and shafts for a while now with zero issues. I’ve heard lots say revolution is quality stuff too. I’m sure you’ll have great success with them.

@JKGearandGadgets Жыл бұрын

I just believe they have an issue with the JL/JT gears. I’ve heard hundreds of people with whining at 50-60, and about 45 others so far who have had a pinion blow up on the highway

@BobS515 Жыл бұрын

My JL Yukon gears went out like yours after about 6K miles. They definitely have issues.

@edwardstone5018 Жыл бұрын

@@JKGearandGadgets I hope that you’re wrong. I have a 21’ Gladiator eco diesel with 4.56 Yukon. 9k miles so far with no issues. I also don’t have any whining at 55-60

@JustNobodyButME Жыл бұрын

@@JKGearandGadgets I've been hearing to many stories myself and not just on the internet, but from fellow members in our local jeep club. Many from JK regears too. Did they move or change manufacturing facilities? Yukons used to be the go to. I'll be going Revolution when i regear.

@sellickusa 11 ай бұрын

@@BobS515yeah Yukon Gear and Axle is trash since they were bought out and out sourced to China. I only got 11k miles before the pinion gear shed 4 gears.

@onebridge7231 Жыл бұрын

I talked to a local shop and they don’t install Yukon anymore and would only install these Revolutions. My 5:13’s are supposed to be installed at the end of July. I really hope they’re quality because I only want to do it once.

@markfriskel3044 4 ай бұрын

Dang, awesome video and info. I'm not too far from Oklahoma... You wanna do a video on OX locker install and regear on a JT? Haha

@craigversetti5700 7 ай бұрын

You boys are sweating to much lol 😆 sorry. Seriously great video as always !!! I might have missed it in previous videos but. What phone / accessories mount are you using in the JT ?? Thanks in advance

@SDMTB14 Жыл бұрын

Properly setting up differentials is like black magic lol. Every time I see a video of this process I always think of how many vehicles with half assed gear jobs must be out there

@mikecon7634 Жыл бұрын

I don't know why I smile every time you say shaft. Well, I guess I do.

@ShaneSellsRealEstate Жыл бұрын

Yeah I've heard way to many problems with Yukon gears. I've never had an issue with Dana/Spicer. So I'll will be installing Dana/Spicer again. It's not worth the risk

@FairlyHonest 6 ай бұрын

I’m on my 3rd or 4th set of Yukon 5:38 gears in my 21 rubicon. I’ve taken the rear pinion out several times. Ended up taking out my locker last time so now I’ve got 35 spline axles and an ARB air locker. So far it’s still going strong. Curious if this new gear set holds up well for you?

@Wheelingoffthewrench Жыл бұрын

Exactly the same thing that happened to me. Then they sent me the wrong axle gears. Even though all of the info specified my axle make on the order and two labels on packaging and tooth count except on label with the barcode had a different detail and as soon as I saw it it was obvious it was wrong

@JEEP-N-DIRT Жыл бұрын

Curious why not just go with the OEM dana spicer gear set?

@108forjeepin Жыл бұрын

40k miles with my revolution 4.88’s , no issues

@protoculturematrix4369 Жыл бұрын

Did you not file the ring gear flat and chase the threads?

@shoestringbudgetadventures3798 4 ай бұрын

Did you make a video on the front?

@CarlosAguilar-cs7ef 8 ай бұрын

what is the torque on the bolts that hold the housing?

@PROXIMO22 2 ай бұрын

how do you feel about ordering single shims and not stacking? is it overkill? thanks!

@lyndangruenke7332 5 ай бұрын

How do you get your speedometer to show the correct speed after you regear?

@LTUSATV Жыл бұрын

Your old 5:13's were they installed when you were pulling all the stuck vehicles off that Texas beach?

@JKGearandGadgets Жыл бұрын

Yep. But I highlyyyyyy doubt that was the issue. Since making this video, I’ve had countless people say the exact thing happened to their JL/JT axle on the HIGHWAY, with Yukon gears. Had a guy call me last night right after his blew up… And another post this morning on the FB group

@LTUSATV Жыл бұрын

@@JKGearandGadgets any know issues with 60's ring and pinion's or isolated to just 44's?

@JK-Joker666 Жыл бұрын

Are those steel toe crocks?

@jspizzle09 Жыл бұрын

This seems like a very complex job 🔥

@JoseOrtiz_1416 Жыл бұрын

Should’ve gotten the new gears DLC coated !

@markw365 Жыл бұрын

Read the instructions that came with your clamshell puller, you need the race on the bearing to use it, or you go through what you went through. Also, put some preload on that carrier, that came out way too easy.

@JasonParham83 Жыл бұрын

I'm just trying to figure out how you did your reserve duty and kept your beard. 😂

@gabrieldalcomune3044 11 ай бұрын

So i’m about to my jeep regeared, so is the post quality control kinda meh? how are dana spicer gears?

@JKGearandGadgets 11 ай бұрын

I would stick to revolution or spicer

@richardmiller3808 Жыл бұрын

I’ll just pay Drive Line Service LLC in Charleston WV to do that work for me. Oh wait I did that already 😂

@invictuscenturion8468 Жыл бұрын

I used Nitro gears, went 4.63 with 35 tires.

@johnanthony6141 Жыл бұрын

You can change my gears anytime! 😂

@Thexkidd Жыл бұрын

I herd 4:88s are the last gear set to have the teeth actually touching. How does 5:13s work?

@JKGearandGadgets Жыл бұрын

Not sure where you heard that from. A lot depends on the axle and ring gear diameter. 5.38s are a thing, but that’s where they get tiny

@sc77 Жыл бұрын

@@JKGearandGadgetsI'm assuming the lowest gear set you recommend is 5:13. Is there any value in cryo treating a 5:38?

@JKGearandGadgets Жыл бұрын

@@sc77 depends on the axle size. On a Dana 44 I’m not a huge fan of 5.38s but they will still work as long as your easy on the skinny pedal. That combo is tough though because normally you need those low of gears for bigger tires like 40s, but then you created a smaller pinion and even bigger heavier tires. Cryo treatment used to be very popular, but I’ve never had it done and seems as though it’s not too common anymore from what I hear, maybe the cost isn’t worth the gain.

@NP-mo3bw 2 ай бұрын

where are you located so I can bring mine

@JKGearandGadgets Ай бұрын

OKC

@paulhasty8388 Жыл бұрын

I'll bet you got really great mileage at 75 to 80 mile's per hour!

@JKGearandGadgets Жыл бұрын

Not really. But the speed limit is 75 so you kinda have to keep up lol

@foxhoundsniper9474 Жыл бұрын

Hope you are still remembering to drain out that catch can

@JKGearandGadgets Жыл бұрын

Yep! Every time I open it’s about half full

@foxhoundsniper9474 Жыл бұрын

Same here, every oil change like clockwork

@TwoFeatherChannel 7 ай бұрын

why would you leave those styrofoam pellets stuck on the ring gear. I know it isn't bits of steel but that looks like crap.

@erichughes9098 Жыл бұрын

😎👍

@TwistedOff Жыл бұрын

👍

@edwardstone5018 Жыл бұрын

Are you ever going to replace that cracked windshield? Lol

@JKGearandGadgets Жыл бұрын

Nope because it will just crack again with my luck lol

@dougpendleton1266 Жыл бұрын

what gear oil are you using?

@JKGearandGadgets Жыл бұрын

85w140

@dougpendleton1266 Жыл бұрын

@@JKGearandGadgets Synthetic or mineral? The reason I ask is due to the heat transfer properties...

@JKGearandGadgets Жыл бұрын

@@dougpendleton1266 non synthetic

@dougpendleton1266 Жыл бұрын

@@JKGearandGadgets Sounds like a winner, good work!

@datrem4197 Жыл бұрын

Is there a KZfaq Jeep channel without a broken windshield

@scotg1999 Ай бұрын

Hi I would like to be entered in the giveaway. I have a 23’ JT Sport MT.

@MrSrtman18 Жыл бұрын

Sally you might be the problem. Are you strong enough to torque them to 150? Better let mike do it.

@JKGearandGadgets Жыл бұрын

I’ll torque them to 450 if needed big boy.

@jamesbird660 8 ай бұрын

Is your friend wearing a United Association hat??

@TheDon8771 Жыл бұрын

Just tap tappppyy tap. Lol it’s not to good for it’s home. 😂😂😂

@Crewsy Жыл бұрын

When the failure happens is not likely when it happened.

@fmndmn Жыл бұрын

I hate my yukon gears, they howl at 60mph.

@escdefender Жыл бұрын

Where’s Cassie??? She’s one of the hottest KZfaqrs!!!

@grantparnes 25 күн бұрын

Why don't people have to break in their gears for 500 miles when they buy a new truck, jeep, corvette?

@JKGearandGadgets 24 күн бұрын

Oem gears are usually lapped or designed for no break in period required.

@grantparnes 24 күн бұрын

@@JKGearandGadgets EXACTLY! So, Buy Dana Spicer gears for all gear changes and get quality gears that you can put in and go, like factory originals. Google Yukon gears and read some jeep forums. NOT good.

@peterodriguez5636 5 ай бұрын

Get job

@bobbymenefee7591 Жыл бұрын

Running low gears at 80mph for 8 hours? You’re asking for problems.

@JKGearandGadgets Жыл бұрын

5.13s can handle that in a 220mm axle (dana44).

@TalkeetnaT Жыл бұрын

Keep wondering if the trailer haul with the old wrangler on it may have created the initial damage.

@JKGearandGadgets Жыл бұрын

@@TalkeetnaT possibly. That was on my mind as well. But there’s no telling

@ALongLongWaytoGO Жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t think so. Unless it’s a JT/JL thing ????…We run 5:13’s in our JKUR on 37’s ( now 40’s…THANKS BEN youtube.com/@JKGearandGadgets ) flat towed behind our motorhome. Regularly 12 hour haul between 75 & 80 on the freeway….About 20k miles now…..Gears still look brand new. I do however…..change the fluid pretty regularly. I know the stuff should last a very long time….BUT…