How to read service spin in table tennis

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Returning serves can be difficult. Part of the challenge is to work out what spin is on the ball. In this video, I explain how to read service spin. At the end of the video, I do some of my serves. See if you can work out what spin I'm putting on the ball.
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Пікірлер: 113

@rsammk 10 ай бұрын

Very informational, I loved the test part. Thanks much!

@williamoak1825 Жыл бұрын

Great Job Tom!!!! I was thinking about that: How to read spin... I just moved from recreation "ping pong" to table tennis playin' in a club and one my major struggles is to read spin properly. Now I've got another clue on how that works and I'll apply those precious tips tonight. Thanks in advance!!!!

@philkaplan519 6 жыл бұрын

Enjoy Tom's down-to-earth style and presentation.

@mmbudny Жыл бұрын

To follow up on the Henrik comment (5 years ago, but top of the comment queue), there are a few opponents whose serves completely confuse me (recreational club but with some top notch players). It would be nice to have an explanation of what the served ball of combo serves is doing once it hits on my side of the table [spin direction] and the best options for both an aggressive return and a "Hail Mary - I just need to get it over then net - return". Another challenge: some backspin serves can be backspinned back, but at other times/other players the return goes directly into the net.

@vidyanandnatarajan1820 Жыл бұрын

Tom, you look like a newbie when you teach but trust me you re a superb player who loves and absorbs the game nd makes it simple for rookies like myself. God Bless Tom and I will keep watching from India.

@danielrenaud4639 Ай бұрын

Good advice ! I'm doing that more and more. Thank you

@JanekBrysiak 4 жыл бұрын

Hello. A very useful guide. Greetings from Poland.

@dr.behjatsyed8412 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks much Tom. I love your easy to understand delivery. I got 9/10 on your spin serve quiz. LOL. Keep 'em coming! Love from Pakistan

@newdawn8691 4 жыл бұрын

Tom great tips, will help me to plan my shots correctly. Thanks.

@Sando8711 5 жыл бұрын

I really liked the drill at the end. It would be cool to see another test given where the server tries to make it as difficult as possible to read the spin. Great content though, keep it up!

@vuducanh2027 6 жыл бұрын

Good video for General T.T players,Keep up if you feel like doing it!!

@Hajjat 5 жыл бұрын

The quiz at the end was really useful! I'm gonna bookmark this video!

@AbsoulteBaller 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you for teaching!! great detail

@henriki8015 6 жыл бұрын

Good video, Tom! Would you mind making one on serve reception of the different serves? Especially one on receiving combined serves, like sidespin/backspin etc.

@TomLodziak 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. I will be doing more videos on how to return different serves in the future.

@simonspiteri9531 6 жыл бұрын

Very useful tutorial . Well done

@manjushb2708 6 жыл бұрын

Very useful video... Thank you sir

@sohrabbahmani4812 6 жыл бұрын

thanks alot, it was huge training video.

@zzzk2001 2 жыл бұрын

this end was really helpful! thx

@lisimon7085 5 жыл бұрын

Useful for my table tennis skills, thanks a lot!!

@tytr6149 2 жыл бұрын

@marleiserashford396 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Great lesson.

@ribalyaghi2338 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks coach for informations

@F-I-R-E 6 жыл бұрын

I'm glad I subscribed to your channel. Clear & helpful instructions! By the way, I got 7 or 8 out of 10 of your serves right, hope I'll be as good when I play later today. That no-spin serve got me. :-)

@TomLodziak 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Sandra. Hope your table tennis is going well.

@dacanovski 3 жыл бұрын

Perfect explane all ,,,,,i need to learn and all of that to tell my son .My suport for you Tom.

@denisewang7874 4 жыл бұрын

This is most helpful video, together with the one on returning backspins, bumping me to semi final in company double game ^^ The downside is that as I am consistent returning backspins, my opponents start to serve me more low long top spins as their beginner partners have trouble returning my pushes...What do I do now? Can you make a video on how to return low long serves, either top or back spins? I try to topspin back but can’t get over net some times. Have trouble chopping back with such low angle also...

@jenniferw5470 6 жыл бұрын

Your vids are my favorite so far. They definitely suit my learning style. Additionally, the sound quality and pace are great...not too long and boring, but not too short either. You hit all the points needed. P.S. You're topspin serve that appears to be a backspin serve until the last second where you brush upward, looks so good and doesn't look extremely difficult to learn. I have a tourney coming up in March and I'm determined to add that one to my serves before then. Thanks!

@TomLodziak 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jennifer. Always makes me happy to get positive feedback. Good luck with your tournament in March.

@kc333 5 жыл бұрын

very good tips

@ujjwalkarki9809 4 жыл бұрын

loved it!

@drortalaa 6 жыл бұрын

very nice and easy way to learn Tannks

@angelh8262 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your great videos, I find adding any spin very difficult I need some pro one to one coaching at my club either that or I’m just st rubbish at TT?! 😂

@pingpong6023 6 жыл бұрын

Good!! I got most except for topspin...

@gorogimre2 5 жыл бұрын

Dear Tom ! Thank you very much for your interpretation ! Let me tell you some remarks . A sidespin serve need not to kick up sideways , a sidespin can be done almost straight ahead. So to do you have to pull the bat nearly paralell with the endline of the table when sidespin serve generated. And at 5:42 what does it mean ".... backhand side topspin serve ..." What are you getting at ? It is a topsin serve with with the backhand side of the bat or something very special ? Why did you omit the Corkscrew spin serve ?

@adindacakraningrat5613 6 жыл бұрын

Nice Tom, i like your video

@toms9864 10 ай бұрын

Very good.

@Brond-mr8lt 6 жыл бұрын

Great simple way of explaining How to respond to the different type?

@TomLodziak 6 жыл бұрын

Hi, I will be creating more videos in the future looking at how to return different types of serve. Here's one a made last year on how to return a sidespin serve: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fLp2jdN8kraYd58.html

@user-xf3gs8lm8w 5 жыл бұрын

You can make a top spin serve using the underspin stroke. All you have to do is as u complete the underspin stroke in service, at the last point of contact, pull back the paddle.

@tle999yt 6 жыл бұрын

Very helpful.

@parmanundbhogun8220 6 жыл бұрын

highlights england v slovenia

@obatherbal4623 3 жыл бұрын

Very very good

@MrCean 8 ай бұрын

great!

@nzrealpk7629 6 жыл бұрын

Tom, I like your British accent, not to mention your helpful demo. from Auckland

@TomLodziak 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Dicky!

@MrHoacho 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@invoke1972 5 жыл бұрын

Hey Tom. Thank you so much. Can you please tell me how to read the serve placement? I try reading the spin like you suggested, but if I can't read the placement, I am not able to receive it on my BH or FH in time. Kindly help.

@TomLodziak 5 жыл бұрын

Your opponent will give you clues with their body shape, arm movement and bat angle. You need to stay alert and get ready to react quickly. The more you practice returning serves, the easier it becomes.

@invoke1972 5 жыл бұрын

@@TomLodziak thanks a lot Tom for explaining! I will definitely try practising it. But easier said than done. Will it be possible to make a video in the future on this? What you mean by reading the opponent. I see players like Lin Gaoyan perfectly reading Ma Long's serves. Even the fast down the line/corner serves.

@Ligatmarping 6 жыл бұрын

Nice vid! please correct me if I'm wrong, the 8th serve, although is the movement of a backspin serve maybe, I guess the ball probably is getting no much spin at that one by how it moves and bounces, am I right? I've been a player for several years but my serve reading I guess is my worst skill overall.

@TomLodziak 6 жыл бұрын

Hi, yes the 8th serve is a little bouncy, but still backspin (with a bit of sidespin). Not heavy backspin, but it needs to be treated as backspin. But you judged it well.

@Ligatmarping 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Very appreciated

@obatherbal4623 3 жыл бұрын

Yessss go go go

@elieli549 3 жыл бұрын

I am enjoy looking tank you love

@mahanandapatil1696 5 жыл бұрын

which bat do u use

@desert1987 6 жыл бұрын

nice vid

@aaryansharma8237 6 жыл бұрын

i always face problems against players who hide their actions while serving this video helped me thanks for it

@nchan55 5 жыл бұрын

Hiding action during serve is illegal in TT.

@RobertoCostas 2 жыл бұрын

@@nchan55 Hiding the ball is illegal, but you can hide the racket on its way towards the ball.

@ansariozair3937 5 жыл бұрын

dear how to return the the 2nd last and the last serve ,(the paddle is moving from inside to outside the body).

@jcjensenllc 2 жыл бұрын

Great stuff. Please redo it and put in slides motion after you tell us what it was.

@danield.7359 6 жыл бұрын

Number 10 was a quite deceptive one. I watched it about 50 times to spot the tiny difference between back- and topspin...

@TomLodziak 6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that last one is a little deceptive. Works very well sometimes, but if my opponent reads the spin, it's not so good. Thank you for watching.

@santiagoramos2845 6 жыл бұрын

Seria bueno que estén traducidos al español, ya que son muy didácticos.

@KarthikVenkataraman 6 жыл бұрын

Have difficulty reading back spin serve like the one at 6:37, it is hidden and I read it as side spin

@TomLodziak 6 жыл бұрын

Best thing to do is watch bat angle on contact. If the bat is open and brushing under ball, there has to be backspin. There could also be sidespin, but crucial element is reading the backspin part.

@KarthikVenkataraman 6 жыл бұрын

Tom Lodziak Thanks for the response, will try to observe

@user-lq6mq6uu4h 3 жыл бұрын

Good

@CreativiTimothy 5 жыл бұрын

I always have trouble reading top spin that comes from the side or bottom AKA the last shot

@badass6656 5 жыл бұрын

Can we see some more advanced service spins?

@LaurenceNyein 5 жыл бұрын

The final looks to me like (at least at first glance) a back spin serve. Then you said it's top spin so i looked at it again and kind of see your point but it's really not obvious to me and a bit confusing. Would you mind explaining a bit more or create a tutorial for it please. Thank you.

@TomLodziak 5 жыл бұрын

So a little bit of disguise on that last one. The bat angle looks more open (which suggests possible backspin), but I don't brush under the ball - so no backspin. Instead I brush up the back of the ball, so it has some topspin.

@LaurenceNyein 5 жыл бұрын

thanks for explaining. watching a few matches just now I saw that serve used by Ovtcharov Dimitrij a few times.

@justinc0336 5 жыл бұрын

I got 7/10. When in doubt, top it out.

@tinnyunt4924 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks I got 8 of 10

@INHELL4 6 жыл бұрын

Great video but can show the same video in slow motion, thank you

@lionheartsummit284 Жыл бұрын

Today I have a tournament and impatiently waitng for smashing down my opponents :D

@manueleleojames5458 Жыл бұрын

Now how can i receive it

@CreativiTimothy 5 жыл бұрын

5:43 why is that topspin and not backspin serve? The racket went from up to down when I watched at 0.5 speed? EDIT: Nevermind. As I watch closer, the racket actually goes from bottom to top, but the backhand gave an illusion

@TomLodziak 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's right. If the bat is moving up when contacting the back of the ball, then there will be some topspin.

@Spinspiel 6 жыл бұрын

A few important aspects should be added - one of which is "sound" - especially on impacting the ball.

@racketman2u 4 жыл бұрын

agree; have you seen Waldner serve? He stomps on the ground at the moment of contact to drown out the contact sound; surely illegal?

@martinnemenzo1827 5 жыл бұрын

Most of the players cover the ball with their bodies and I can't really read the serve. Any other tips aside from reading through how the ball travels? Coz its hard if its a fast ball

@racketman2u 4 жыл бұрын

any serve where the ball is obscured by any part of the body is illegal.

@davevalinty4293 5 жыл бұрын

Hi coach, Is there a good mysterious reason why I saw a lot of players touching their side of the table near the net?

@TomLodziak 5 жыл бұрын

Some players do this to remove sweat from their hand. They do it on this part of the table, as the ball is unlikely to land in this position. But it is probably more psychological than anything else. It's a ritual between points to compose themselves and prepare for the next point.

@davevalinty4293 5 жыл бұрын

@@TomLodziak It look like they're praying to me the way they look at the net post.

@racketman2u 4 жыл бұрын

@@TomLodziak I've noticed that; how is contaminating the playing surface with sweat not illegal?

@RobertoCostas 2 жыл бұрын

@@racketman2u It should be absolutely illegal. But, unlickily, it's allowed by the referees and the reglamentation doesn't tell anything about it.

@sureshulagadde2566 6 жыл бұрын

thanks I got 9 out of 10

@NitinKatiyarCircle 5 жыл бұрын

I generally get the spin but cant guess where ball will go. Sometimes i just swing the bat and completely miss the ball.

@markobe8 5 жыл бұрын

how about tutorial on how to answer these serve?

@TomLodziak 5 жыл бұрын

I'll be doing more videos on returning serves in the future. Maybe an entire online course too. It's a tricky subject!

@jessicavietzke1491 6 жыл бұрын

hey

@rosahelenaleao9890 2 жыл бұрын

Tá um bate bola. Fala sério.

@johna6968 5 жыл бұрын

mmm.. Couple of those were proper confusing

@MemoSuperheroe Жыл бұрын

I failed to guess the topspin serves. Because I don't do thse serves regularly hahaha😅😅

@nemes1s_aoe 4 жыл бұрын

Poor mic placement for this one. You may try to edit out. it Nice tips.

@abdallababikir4473 5 жыл бұрын

The ball like getting brushed

@jomlershansen5889 6 жыл бұрын

I got 11 out of 10

@obatherbal4623 3 жыл бұрын

Importent

@ja-xp9wl 3 жыл бұрын

pzdr 2k21

@paulispaul1974 6 жыл бұрын

You need a lot of practice to do good serves

@Ligatmarping 6 жыл бұрын

The idea is to make them good for the teaching, he is not trying to be deceptive or placing them well, I guess.

@RobertoCostas 2 жыл бұрын

That's not the point of the video.

@MrRJames149 5 жыл бұрын

Find it much easier to read legal conventional serves from good players rather than manky, mishit dodgy ones.

@glorybackhk 6 жыл бұрын

your blade sounds not good one.

@TomLodziak 6 жыл бұрын

It's Timo Boll Spirit. Maybe just the sound of the video recording.

@khalil6157 5 жыл бұрын

YOU TALK A LOT

@manojkverma4946 6 жыл бұрын

very bad i don't like it.. tom

@obatherbal4623 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks