How To Ride A Mid Drive Ebike

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8 ай бұрын

Like, Share & Subscribe. Today I will look at the better ways of riding a mid drive ebike. there are some differances between mid drive and hub drive, but nothing that should "drive" you away from exploring a mid drive. Thanks for watching and enjoy.
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@nathanmcgill4157 3 ай бұрын

I'm 210lbs. I put 7500 miles on my bike before changing the cassette chain all that. Just ride the damn thing. get used to it the way your going to ride it. I changed the cassette from 11-34 to 11-50. Changed front sprocket from 48 to 42 offset. Then it hauls me almost anywhere through the woods. I also have one leg

@waltersmithat70 6 ай бұрын

Lots of steep pacific north west hills ,400 mi on my ❤ bbso2 750w mid drive ❤ and I love it ! I have a 1-8 set up. I shift using cadence between 65 to 85 in all gears feathering brake sensor and leting off on tork between the gears. 260lb rider on 78lb mtb......nice video ! Very informative I put my master link with 5 links as my zipper pull on my fanny pack. 😊

@Joerides7 8 ай бұрын

I've never owned a hub-drive, but from what I know about them, a mid-drive is better suited to a more experienced rider. However, I wouldn't let the risk of being stranded stop anyone from trying one. My dad has ridden tens of thousands of miles over the last 35+ years and he's never even fixed a flat tire. If he gets a flat or breaks down, he just calls for help. Usually me.

@southernebiking 8 ай бұрын

I have both a mid drive and a hub drive. They both have their place. Each has some advantages and some disadvantages. Thanks for watching.

@redwingsgo12 Ай бұрын

Same, I think Ive had 1 flat tire from running over glass in 30+ years biking. Im not against walking home or calling for help. Really, how many spare parts do you carry in your car? Maybe just a tire, of 1000s of parts. You break down you call somebody

@terryrccrazy6993 8 ай бұрын

Very informative, lots of great information, thanks

@southernebiking 8 ай бұрын

Thank you much Terry. I do appreciate it. It really does seem like a lot of information, but the actuality is that it’s very simple. Thank you much for watching.

@Ro-Bucks 2 ай бұрын

Them master links are easy to use once you know the tricks and do it a few times. Make sure to face the closed side towards the direction of travel, I found out the hard way 3 times in about 3min, somehow found the pin each time and the fourth time I put it on facing right lol

@southernebiking 2 ай бұрын

Great point and you are correct. Thanks for watching.

@Rip1Outdoors 8 ай бұрын

Very informative Blaine. I know nothing about them

@southernebiking 8 ай бұрын

Thank you Richard. To me, they are better way to go. But it’s just in what you’re used to. Thanks much for watching.

@Dancing_Alone_wRentals 8 ай бұрын

Great video. I've been thinking that eBikes really just need five speeds. Granted, if somebody rides without any assist they would want to have more....but the five speeds I'm familiar with have three ranges of boost, which ...in a round about way provide you with more than 5 choices. tHanks for the video

@GK-yk4eh 2 ай бұрын

My townie 5i is the best bike for me 5 speed trans internal where your motor is. What a great riding bike I love it and mid drive is the best for me ride before you buy.

@southernebiking 2 ай бұрын

Thank you much for watching. That ride before you buy sums it all up. For my off-road, when I really want to cycle, I prefer a Middrive. I just purchased a hub drive. Surprisingly, I could’ve gotten the same bike as a Middrive which I have always talked about liking more. Could’ve gotten it at the same price as well. I chose the hub drive because this is the bike. I will be using when my wife and I are out biking. I really don’t need a Middrive in that case. And the mid drive does require a bit more maintenance. If I had to have one, I would choose a Middrive. but so far, no one has tried to stop me from owning more than one. Lol as my wife just heard me, say this, she stated she will stop me if I keep buying more. Thanks much. Enjoy your evening.

@jamesharrison7114 4 ай бұрын

Take a look at Lekkie chain rings for BBs motors. They have made them to correct the chain line issues the stock rings have.

@southernebiking 4 ай бұрын

The problem with the offset of the chain line is not so much a product of the motor as it is the chain stay, or, as I would call it the swingarm. When you are converting a mountain bike. Typically they have a very small chain ring. This one was I believe a 28 tooth. Because I ride primarily bike trails, bringing it up to a bout a 44 to 48 tooth will give a top speed of approximately 24 to 28 mph with the way I have the controller tuned down just a bit. With a 48 tooth, I have to actually push the chain ring 2.5 mm out farther than the motor would have it. With a 44 tooth, I can get by with having it attach straight to the motor. But it leaves very little room for flex at that point. If I were to keep this to off-road trails, I would definitely be using a lekkie and probably about a 36 or even 32 tooth. That would definitely allow my chain line to do a bit better. Thanks for watching James.

@terrynelson2385 8 ай бұрын

Good advice. Used to have a 21 speed bike at a younger age that I rode a lot. If I had a barrel of money I would buy a mid drive to ride in the mountains. It would have to have a throttle to get me going just like my hub motor bike does. No throttle no buy. Many new mid drives have a temporary motor cut off when gears are shifted but the idea is the same, back off the torque.

@southernebiking 8 ай бұрын

Thank you Terry. Most mid drives now have a throttle. On the cost, if you wanted to put a bafang motor on a bike, it could be cheaper. I do have a gearshift sensor on my mid drive. Still in the habit of using the break cut off to make that cut go for a little bit longer. Especially when downshifting several gears at a time. I have been considering looking for a ready, built mid drive. Just don’t tell Mrs. SE. Lol thanks for watching.

@terrynelson2385 8 ай бұрын

my lips are sealed!!@@southernebiking

@Dancing_Alone_wRentals 8 ай бұрын

I saw the title....and thought " I bet there is something I will learn on this video". (This from someone that has ....at least six eBikes sitting). tHanks for the video

@southernebiking 8 ай бұрын

Thank you very much for watching. I hope you was able to pick up a few things. Stay safe friend.

@Dancing_Alone_wRentals 8 ай бұрын

Yes @@southernebiking I never imagined the chains breaking. I started opting for the belt drives....however, you pointed out the issue a derailleur bike could have. That is good to know. On a different note. I know in the bikes shops we would change out bike chains long before the 3,000 mile mark. You may have spotted a concern eBike riders will have that old Schwinn bikers never imagined.

@southernebiking 8 ай бұрын

@@Dancing_Alone_wRentals I kind of see it this way. If I get 2000 miles out of my chain and cassette. I’m pretty pleased with the amount of pressure that those two things take from a mid drive. I am going to be doing a video soon on what I feel like it’s going to be the newer technology for ebikes. An internal gearbox would certainly make belt drive. Possible with gears. I’ve never tried a belt drive yet, but I’m looking forward trying one. Again thanks for watching.

@Dancing_Alone_wRentals 8 ай бұрын

I'm a touch behind on schedule.....but@@southernebiking, if you are ever by the Keystone Museum ( As seen in your other video; for anyone who missed that post ) I can bring a belt drive cargo. If....if....If I'm on schedule, I'll be in RVA on Monday and or Tuesday.

@southernebiking 8 ай бұрын

@@Dancing_Alone_wRentals we are actually from Raleigh area. Our next trip is going to be headed a little more south. Down toward Charlotte only because the cooler weather is coming in.

@8thsinner 2 ай бұрын

I'm completely new to this but thinking of the bafang 1000w, for my merida big 7,20, with an s ram 8s/11-48 on the back. But whats that you're saying about front gears..have you seen it done properly yet or is it still more an idea floating around cause I think for me it sounds like a good option.

@southernebiking 2 ай бұрын

It has been done in some prototypes. not sure if they ever had any of them in production. Thanks for watching

@IsmaelPR32 6 ай бұрын

What do you mean when you say back-off or back-down prior to shifting? Do you cut the motor power (brake sensor) or do you throttle down?

@southernebiking 6 ай бұрын

Great question. And thanks for watching. Definitely the motor power needs to cut. That happens with a gearshift sensor in most cases, or as you said a brake sensor. But I also want to back off my peddling. I almost want to ghost pedal for a quarter to a half of revolution. A great way to see what I’m talking about is to turn off your motor and just keep it pedaling up a slight incline. If you try to shift while you have pressure going from the chain to the rear cassette, you will feel bad shift and hear a clunking through. If you back off and ghost pedal about a half a turn as you are making that shift. There will not be pressure from the chain to the back sprocket. This will allow a much smoother shift. This is much more important on a mid drive. On a hub drive, typically the back wheel is turning more than the chain. That means there’s not a lot of pressure from the chain to the sprocket. Thus, this is not as big of an issue. On a mid drive, this is much more important. Please let me know if this answers your question. Again, thanks for watching.

@pedrofernandez8729 8 ай бұрын

This could be an issue in urban riding where you have to constantly stop and go all the time. Give me my hub drive with cadence sensor and I don't need to be bothered by gears since I have no hills over here.

@southernebiking 8 ай бұрын

Say to me, it’s not really a problem to shift. I would be doing that on the hub drive as well. It’s just been what someone is. Used to I guess. Thanks for watching.

@omnipresentvideo7686 Ай бұрын

I just want to build a light single speed mid drive BBSHD for commuting, got a recommendation for a strong chain?

@southernebiking Ай бұрын

Thanks much for watching. To be very honest with you I would suggest you get a hub drive if you are going with a single speed. The major advantage to the Middrive is that you are using the gearing on the bike to increase your torque or speed depending on the gear you choose. I understand there is a maintenance schedule on Middrive bike as well. Especially the bafang units. I do like a Middrive much better and if I had to have only one, it would be a Middrive. But I actually just purchased a hub drive for rides that were on Greenways bike trails, etc.. I keep my Middrive for the more difficult ride or off-road. That way I am not having to put mega miles on it and do the maintenance. If you do, go with the BBSHD, please consider a bike with at least seven speed. Preferably, a nine or 10 speed. You will be much happier when it’s all said and done. Thanks much.

@JDski 2 ай бұрын

From what I gather, a mid drive is closer to the transition from conventional bike to e-bike. Hub motors feel more like mopeds especially if you don't have torque sensors.

@redwingsgo12 Ай бұрын

Its funny, I have a hub drive fat bike and consistantly out of habit am shifting gears when Im coming to a hill or a stop ect. I dont even notice I do it, it just happens from 30+ years experience riding

@southernebiking Ай бұрын

This is actually a better and smarter way to ride even a hub drive. By doing this, you are providing more help to the motor thus, you are going to get better range. Thanks for watching.

@gergofodor8275 6 ай бұрын

I have a tsdz2b with a sturney archer 5 speed internal gear hub shifter,and single speed chain.. all of this cost like 500 $

@southernebiking 6 ай бұрын

Internal geared would be the way to go. Now you don’t have to worry about derailer. Could also end up using a belt instead of a chain. Is it an E bike or regular bike? And how do you like it?

@gergofodor8275 6 ай бұрын

@@southernebiking i have factory ebike before,and i converted my old mtb with the tsdz2b mid drive kit. Finished today,and i very happy with it.

@southernebiking 6 ай бұрын

@@gergofodor8275 I am not familiar with a TSDZ2b.

@plutobars7700 5 ай бұрын

So what kind of mid drive unit do you have on your bike?

@southernebiking 5 ай бұрын

Bbso2

@zlatkomi1210 5 ай бұрын

Your chainring is for high speed flat paved roads , not for gravel raiding. I use 32T chainring......

@southernebiking 5 ай бұрын

You are correct. But I have built this bike to be an all purpose. I do take it on some mountain bike trails, on the road, and on the bike lanes. I use a 46 or 48 in front and that allows me to comfortably go about 25 or a bit more when I am in traffic. I just put a new cassette on and I believe it is a 40 or 42 in the back for the low gear. Plenty good enough even without using the motor for majority of the hills in this area. Thanks for watching.

@zlatkomi1210 4 ай бұрын

@@southernebiking 25 is my max speed, throtle only. Lower chainring is good for your motor and raiding is more comfortable. Try it

@randyeller8139 8 ай бұрын

So in other words, much ado about nothing. I can see where someone who hasn’t been on a bicycle much could have issues but someone more experienced with an acoustic one it should be fine.

@southernebiking 8 ай бұрын

I agree. Much Ado about nothing. But the midwives do have a reputation as being very difficult to ride. It does take a long time to try and explain how to ride, but really does not take much time at all to learn to do it. I don’t think you need experience on acoustic bike. I did very little riding of regular bikes before we started with a ebikes. I did ride my custom, build a little, and it taught me that something was not right. It really only takes about five minutes to figure it out if you understand what is going on though. Thank you much for watching Randy. We do appreciate it.

@carnivorecave 8 ай бұрын

Too much info to think about. Over thinking about shifting and the process of riding a bike. Just ride and experiment your style of riding...

@pedrofernandez8729 8 ай бұрын

yeah, biking is all about having fun, we complicate things too much, I just wanna ride and have fun with my e bike. I can ride longer w/o getting too tired and w/o having my arthritic knees hurt.

@southernebiking 8 ай бұрын

I would call this info something like trying to teach somebody to tie shoes. Seems very complicated, but in reality it’s very simple. Thank you much for watching. We do appreciate it.

@Trevor-Simmons 6 ай бұрын

Get on the saddle and peddle it's not rocket science

@southernebiking 6 ай бұрын

You are correct for someone who thinks mechanically, or has experience with riding bikes. I think very mechanically. Never did do any cycling until I started ebiking. Never did have any problem with it. But this video is for people who do not think mechanically, or have very little experience cycling. They could use some help in how this thing works, because let’s face it mid drives have a reputation for being hard on the drivetrain and breaking chains. They think differently than you and I. That doesn’t make us superior. I have a friend who is a scientist. When I cowboyed for a living l tried to help him with his horses which he never got along with. He said you really don’t like me because I don’t get along with these animals do you? I told him I looked at it this way, I’m good with these type of things, but you would have to help me if we were doing something scientific. I than looked at him and said you drive a jaguar to work, I’m driving in a Ford F250. No way I could say I was better than him. He was also not better than I. We just thought differently. Thanks for watching.